Eurybia
Dec 8, 2008 @ 9:55 pm
A better show than this one has been lately could use this to play up the version of the story you never hear before bit by doing a little compare and contrast with SV cannon and Comics cannon.
Oh, I would
love that. I love the idea of the kids who know this idealized version of everything (comics) coming back and seeing what really happened (SV: deconstructed Superman to the max), and seeing their reactions. Of course, it'll probably never be overtly done on the show. But we can dream...
Ions
Dec 8, 2008 @ 10:05 pm
Oh, I would love that. I love the idea of the kids who know this idealized version of everything (comics) coming back and seeing what really happened (SV: deconstructed Superman to the max), and seeing their reactions. Of course, it'll probably never be overtly done on the show. But we can dream...
Honestly it would justify why they are so bent on the ICONIC ICON OF DESTINY!!! this season.
Bkwurm
Dec 9, 2008 @ 1:31 am
Oh, I would love that. I love the idea of the kids who know this idealized version of everything (comics) coming back and seeing what really happened (SV: deconstructed Superman to the max), and seeing their reactions. Of course, it'll probably never be overtly done on the show. But we can dream...
It would explain how Lois Lane becomes remembered as the kind of reporter who lives and breathes her craft while bleeding ink. They history books just merged two characters into one. Kind of like how Edison got the credit for all the inventions when often it really was a worker in his labs.
Ions
Dec 9, 2008 @ 8:01 am
Anyone else notice that Saturn Girl's hair is styled similarly as Chloe's? I'm not sure if that was meant to be on purpose (Maybe to have Clark see her from behind and calls out for Chloe only for it not to be her but someone more...ICONIC) or it could be just coincidence.
sita102
Dec 9, 2008 @ 11:16 pm
Not really. Her hair is longer, isn't it?
I find the Legion off-putting. Like a smug, super-coiffed, super-powered BH 90210 where Clark is the equivalent of the (or rather one) Walshs dispensing advice in the future while SAturn girl angsts over her Dylan.
Ions
Dec 9, 2008 @ 11:31 pm
Not really. Her hair is longer, isn't it?
Reminds me of Chloe's season 5 hair, that's just me.
hgalve
Dec 10, 2008 @ 10:35 am
I find the Legion off-putting.
Oh, me too. Except for Saturn Girl for some reason but that's probably cause I think she's kind of adorable looking and I have a huge girl-crush on Alexz Johnson. Lightning Lad looks...odd.
EllyF
Dec 12, 2008 @ 12:42 pm
New trailer with all-new footage
here. Posted to KSite by Fallen One.
"Lana, you're part of the reason Kal-El becomes a hero." Did I really need to hear that line? Seriously, DID I??? Not to mention her whispering, "Clark, the world needs you." Oh, and a Clana kiss! Joy to the world!
More Lex-that-isn't, and Tess... turning toward the good side, maybe? But the Legion, Red-Blue Blur, and Chloiac parts look good, so that's something. Also, I believe I see Chloiac kicking Clark's ass, which he richly deserves at this point.
jimmy4
Dec 12, 2008 @ 1:03 pm
Wow, Lana is now the all powerful and the reason Clark becomes a hero? It's good to be ICONIC on this show! Poor Chloe who's done everything to help Clark including save the world never ever gets any credit. Well, at least this is still SV with the Lana pimping by everyone including the LoS. It wouldn't be SV if Lana is in an episode and no one says how awesome she is. On another note, I want to see Chloic smack the living daylights out of Clark, Lana and the rest.
marenh
Dec 12, 2008 @ 1:06 pm
Oh Smallville, where Lois, Lana and Jimmy are awesomesauce and Chloe is the evil crap on the bottom of everyone's shoes.
Well, damn, so much for Mercy not sucking. It took her marginally Lana to shove everything in not Lex's face and turn traitor but not by much. Such a disappointment from her. She's been so very, very lame, starting with Ollie fucking. Also, the pseudo-Lex is pretty pathetic too.
Ooh, love how they had to make EDlo look important with a clip from an old ep. Everything else is brand spanking new, including Lana but we have to have Lois come on back up.
Remember how the cheer was "Go Dooms!" Well, "Go Chloiac!!!"
EllyF
Dec 12, 2008 @ 1:20 pm
I guess they think they need Clana fans for sweeps. And what the Clana fans want most is Clark attaining his destiny because Lana gave him love and encouragement. So I'm not really surprised. I really wish they'd give me what I want, though-- evol Lana. Plus hot Chlark sex. How come I don't get what *I* want?? Seriously, as long as they're throwing bones to shipper groups, why do Clana fans get a kiss and Chlark fans don't? That's just rude *frowns disapprovingly*.
Mercy has turned out to be rather lame, disappointingly. Not the actress' fault-- she's awesome. But her storyline has limped along, and it doesn't look like it's going to improve, does it?
PolarB
Dec 12, 2008 @ 1:34 pm
Honestly, the Clana isn't really much more than what we already knew. We knew there was a kiss, and I can't say I'm surprised the Legion are pimping Lana as one of the reasons Clark becomes a hero; it's been pretty obvious, imo, that Lana's episodes were going to be All About Lana/Clana with everything else more or less grinding to a halt until she's gone for good.
That said: awesome trailer. Looks like MM gets his powers back, too.
Ions
Dec 12, 2008 @ 2:03 pm
Mercy has turned out to be rather lame, disappointingly.
Especially now that they outed that she betrays Lex... go freaking figure.
Wow, Lana is now the all powerful and the reason Clark becomes a hero? It's good to be ICONIC on this show! Poor Chloe who's done everything to help Clark including save the world never ever gets any credit.
The Chloiser in me, Lana is part of the reason, but to me that means she's not a part of his future, unlike Chloe who'll always be there for him. Lana maybe a part of the reason he becomes a hero but Chloe is his constant.
Also, I believe I see Chloiac kicking Clark's ass, which he richly deserves at this point.
Well I dunno, there is a scene that looks like the Chloiac/Clark fight goes to the DP and it seems Clark throws her through the glass windows into the Copy room. You see someone wearing white smashing through the windows.
sita102
Dec 12, 2008 @ 2:07 pm
"Lana, you're part of the reason Kal-El becomes a hero."
Oh look, the ICONIC, MYTHOS, DENISTY bullshit continues.
Do nothing onscreen and be touted as the reason for Clark being a hero.
It really must be awesome to be AM right now. I feel for her. The show degrades her contribution to Smallville every chance they get.
Also, I believe I see Chloiac kicking Clark's ass, which he richly deserves at this point.
Dooms and Chloiac should take turns.
EllyF
Dec 12, 2008 @ 2:08 pm
You see someone wearing white smashing through the windows.
I think Lana's wearing white, too. Could be someone throwing
her around. I find it hard to envision Clark throwing Chloe through a window even if she is infected with a major villain.
Ions
Dec 12, 2008 @ 2:10 pm
I think Lana's wearing white, too
Lana is shown either wearing dark grey or black, Chloe's only scenes have been with her in her white wedding dress. And it does look like someone wearing a white dress is crashing through those windows.
SaveLevi
Dec 12, 2008 @ 2:39 pm
Clark's a shallow, hypocritical, short-sighted, lying blowhard. If Lana wants to be responsible for that mess, I absolutely am okay with it. I surely don't want Chloe taking credit for him.
I'm bored with KK already. I mean, sure, anything is better than Nois, but clearly KK's return is aimed at attracting viewers during sweeps and will amount to nothing more than filler. I suspect Clark'll have a good think about what Lana means to him and what the relationship truly is. And he'll realize he's over it just in time for Nois to come back.
Massena1
Dec 12, 2008 @ 4:28 pm
I'm so glad Chloiac gets to knock around Clark and Dooms. If only Lana, Jimmy and Nois were around to personally experience Chloiac on a rampage, that'd be the only reason I'd want them around really. If Chloe is stuck being a doormat, at least they'd give the visual of AM kicking behind.
marenh
Dec 12, 2008 @ 4:35 pm
Yes, Clark is handed off like the penis-batton from one self-absorbed, passive-aggressive bitch to another and the mythos is complete.
Who else wants Chloiac to kick everyone's ass and for Chloe (when she gets better/if) to pack up and head over to Gotham. There has to be a better hero to hang around with. Clearly Supes and the GA aren't it.
CantThinkUpName
Dec 12, 2008 @ 4:51 pm
Mercy betrays Lex? Son of a bitch!! I mean...dwah! I had so much hope for her. So much hope that she would be a strong character yet one with blind devotion. And now...ugh. She had so much potential. What a waste if she joins Team Good.
I have to imagine her remaining to be somewhat evil at least on her own because otherwise what's her point going to be on the show? To be the friendly owner of the DP? To be the girlfriend of Oliver Queen? (And seriously show, lobotomizing another female character so she could be in a submissive relationship with a douchey male?) There'd be no payoff to the Legion of Doom. And Doomsday can't be the singular Big Bad since there's no planning or strategy for him like there would be with stopping Tess- just violence. That bothers me far more than Lana being the reason Clark becomes who he is (and I fear what, if anything, they'll say about Lois).
At least Chloe looks like she's having fun.
Lana is shown either wearing dark grey or black, Chloe's only scenes have been with her in her white wedding dress. And it does look like someone wearing a white dress is crashing through those windows.
I thought it was a Tess/Lana fight.
marenh
Dec 12, 2008 @ 5:09 pm
Yeah, Doomsday's plot has been okay. Tess's arc, such as it is, has sucked and this "sleeps with Ollie and cries and betrays Lex" storyline SUCKS the big one. If she goes totally good, I hope Lex has a mutant plug her.
Positronic
Dec 12, 2008 @ 6:29 pm
There's a bit at about 0:47 in the preview where it looks like Cosmic Boy and Lightning Lad are performing an exorcism on Chloe while Clark and Saturn Girl are holding her down on a table in the barn.
marenh
Dec 12, 2008 @ 6:45 pm
Yup, looks like some kind of Brainiac-icism as well to me.
CantThinkUpName
Dec 12, 2008 @ 6:55 pm
Yup, looks like some kind of Brainiac-icism as well to me.
The power of Robo Christ compels you!
Dread
Dec 12, 2008 @ 7:01 pm
I will maintain hope that Tess is merely playing on the hero's 'no one is beyond redemption' naivety and will be stabbing him in the back and stealing Queen Industries soon enough.
As for Lana, what did you all expect? Of course she's part of the reason Clark becomes a hero.
Clark can have every single guest star, Chloe, Oliver, Aquaman, J'onn, Oliver, Chloe, J'onn, Chloe, Oliver, Kid Flash, and Cyborg kick his ass toward herodom every single show, but it's all about Lana.
wwg23
Dec 12, 2008 @ 7:05 pm
Ooh, this sounds so interesting. I can't waizzzzzzz.
SteveWright
Dec 12, 2008 @ 7:06 pm
As for Lana, what did you all expect? Of course she's part of the reason Clark becomes a hero.
Clark can have every single guest star, Chloe, Oliver, Aquaman, J'onn, Oliver, Chloe, J'onn, Chloe, Oliver, Kid Flash, and Cyborg kick his ass toward herodom every single show, but it's all about Lana.
Do they say "part of the reason" or "THE reason"? Because, as much as I hate to say it, she is part of the reason and she has had more of an impact on him emotionally then any other character (sucks to admit it guys, but it's true..lol)
Ions
Dec 12, 2008 @ 7:25 pm
Do they say "part of the reason" or "THE reason"?
They say part of the reason.
But regardless, this trailer just makes me laugh when I thick back to Kelly Souder's interview about after the Near Kiss lust is flying and stuff for Clois, and here we are seeing Clana kiss, and a deep kiss, it just makes me laugh.
The only thing I'm wondering now is, is Isis Lana's set now? It just sucks, she loses the DP set to Clark/Lois, and now Lana is back she loses Isis.
marenh
Dec 12, 2008 @ 7:25 pm
Oh wwg23, I disagree. Even if the Legion worships Lana from here to eternity with pretty pink offerings, I am still looking forward to watching Chloiac kick Clark's ass, at least for a while.
However, as for the great plots of yet more Clana and Tess betraying Lex to fuck Oliver some more...meh, beats Cnois.
Ions, at this rate, Chloe is going to be working out of a corner of the Talon, that little table...until Jimmy needs it for important bass fishing memos. Then she's going to get a cardboard box in the back alley.
Ions
Dec 12, 2008 @ 7:28 pm
Tess betraying Lex to fuck Oliver some more...meh
But what's so funny, they make another Love triangle, Lex/Tess/Oliver. And Lex isn't even there, just a offscreensville history between Lex/Tess
I'm still convinced that's Chloe in 0:43 going through the glass windows of the DP. I mean think about it, would this show really pass up the opportunity for Clark to literally kick Chloe? And get away with it?
acampbell
Dec 12, 2008 @ 8:29 pm
Honestly, the Clana isn't really much more than what we already knew. We knew there was a kiss, and I can't say I'm surprised the Legion are pimping Lana as one of the reasons Clark becomes a hero; it's been pretty obvious, imo, that Lana's episodes were going to be All About Lana/Clana with everything else more or less grinding to a halt until she's gone for good.
Well, it's all an unpleasant surprise to me, although I really should have known. I wasn't expecting Tess to betray Lex (well, I was, but I was hoping...!) and I wasn't expecting the Legion to pimp Lana. I should've remembered SV always picks the absolute worst choice, every time.
cmirk01
Dec 12, 2008 @ 8:42 pm
The only thing I'm wondering now is, is Isis Lana's set now? It just sucks, she loses the DP set to Clark/Lois, and now Lana is back she loses Isis.
Ya know at this point, I would be applauding if Lana took back the facility and Chloe ended up losing that job she was shitty at to begin with. Call it a blessing in disguise. Perhaps she uses this point of unemployment to ring up one of her many connections (god, remember when that girl used to have connections everywhere pre-firing from the DP?!) Use one of them hun, and get your ass to Gotham City.
I'm still convinced that's Chloe in 0:43 going through the glass windows of the DP. I mean think about it, would this show really pass up the opportunity for Clark to literally kick Chloe? And get away with it?
I'm thinking its also Chloeiac. Clark heads to the FOS confronts Chloeiac, she kicks his ass, he passes out. Somehow she ends up or is followed to the DP, another round of Clark and Chloeiac or perhaps with the LOSH this time, cut to her getting thrown through the window. She passes out from the hit and Clark and the LOSH quickly take her back to his farm to conduct the "ritual". The surrounding set looks like all hell broke loose. Looks like the same destruction from the barn after Dooms went postal.
But then there's a shot of LOSH in the morning/afternoon introducing themselves to Clark, don't know if in the process he decided to clean up, before the confrontation, or that mess was caused by the act of the exorcism itself?
I'm getting flashbacks of the film Constantine watching that same of her being strapped down...coincidentally the same film AM mentioned in her blog awhile back having to watch for research on her directorial episode?
Eurybia
Dec 12, 2008 @ 9:27 pm
Mercy betrays Lex? Son of a bitch!! I mean...dwah! I had so much hope for her. So much hope that she would be a strong character yet one with blind devotion. And now...ugh. She had so much potential. What a waste if she joins Team Good.
Word. So much word. Oh, Tess, I don't want you to be dead to me, but I'm pretty sure you're going to be. :(
I'm fairly certain she's going to remain "evil" though. Didn't one of PS3 say that the Legion of Doom/Injustice League would be coming? Maybe she writes off Lex but remains evil all by her lonesome, with Lex's company and all his resources.
Also, boo to martyr!Lana. I had such hope she would actually be somewhat drak for part of her arc. But noooo...
At least the Chloiac stuff looks awesome. Go Dooms and Chloiac!
Greenlady532002
Dec 12, 2008 @ 10:57 pm
Mercy betrays Lex? Son of a bitch!! ...She had so much potential. What a waste if she joins Team Good.
I predicted this. I predicted she'd either die, or betray Lex and/or join the Kent Cabal. As soon as I heard she'd slept with Ollie, I knew it was going to be the latter. That's why I don't watch this shit fest of a show.
CantThinkUpName
Dec 13, 2008 @ 12:14 am
Any chance that after Tess "dumps" Lex a Tess clone will knock on her office door, shoot her in the head and take her chair at the desk? I'd rather Lex not have to resort to clones for loyalty but ... damn it's so disappointing.
Greenlady532002
Dec 13, 2008 @ 2:04 am
Any chance that after Tess "dumps" Lex a Tess clone will knock on her office door, shoot her in the head and take her chair at the desk?
God, I hope so. Can't this show have any decent characters? Do they all have to be Lana lovers and Kent Cabal members? Do they all have to end up brainwashed?
done
Dec 13, 2008 @ 4:05 am
God, I hope so. Can't this show have any decent characters? Do they all have to be Lana lovers and Kent Cabal members? Do they all have to end up brainwashed?
Actually they are all Lois/Clois pimpers lately, which came out of nowhere IMO. For better or worse, the Lana pimpage is in continuity.
I'm a bit amused that they even make Lex' supposed most loyal companion turn her back on him. He really doesn't get a break, does he? I wouldn't be surprised if they put some underlying Lexana in there, just to rub salt in the wound. Oh, I totally believe PS3 are rubbing there hands over this.
AM4Lois
Dec 13, 2008 @ 4:27 am
I'm a bit amused that they even make Lex' supposed most loyal companion turn her back on him. He really doesn't get a break, does he? I wouldn't be surprised if they put some underlying Lexana in there, just to rub salt in the wound. Oh, I totally believe PS3 are rubbing there hands over this.
Hey, you said Lexana and I had a light bulb moment: what if Lana has something on Tess? Didn't she accuse her of something in the trailer? Or maybe I misheard that part, but... Maybe we get the teary eyed back stabbing from Tess on Lana's orders? Like a (gag!) repeat of Promise's "I had a change of heart..."? I think Lana knows about Lex being alive and in communications with Tess and Lana is holding Tess over something, so... Ok, doesn't make MUCH sense, but makes more sense than Mercy betraying Lex out of some sudden desire to be on the good side, come on...
I just NEED to believe that a) Mercy would never betray Lex willingly and b) Lana is STILL freaking EVIL!
Please, please, please... I already have to deal with Nois all the time. Don't screw this up too, show...
apeygirl
Dec 13, 2008 @ 5:38 am
Maybe she turns on Lex because he broke some kind of code, but doesn't necessarily join the white hats. She could just go rogue -- do things her way rather than according to Lex's offscreenville plans. It could make her more unpredictable and more interesting to watch.
I just don't think they'll take what's left of her badass away. She already is Ollie's wetnap. To put her on some goody redemption arc on top would be stupid. They lready know how "well" we responded to the first.
Then again, these are the producers that responded to massive cries of "no more Chimmy" by marrying them.
Oh, fuck it all. I can't. I can't find the bright side anymore.
done
Dec 13, 2008 @ 5:49 am
Ok, doesn't make MUCH sense, but makes more sense than Mercy betraying Lex out of some sudden desire to be on the good side, come on...
What I wanted to imply was, that it is very possible that Tess turns her back on him, cuz Lex loves Lana more than her. Like he only used her to save Lana. It's very consistent how I think the writers view Lex and his feelings for her. I find that really silly, yet so possible for a CW show.
Ions
Dec 13, 2008 @ 6:04 am
Then again, these are the producers that responded to massive cries of "no more Chimmy" by marrying them.
No... the producers responded to the Standing Ovation that the Vessel kiss received in that screening with Chlimmy.
screamin
Dec 13, 2008 @ 9:41 am
I think it's kind of funny that in that new trailer, when Chloiac and Davis are confronting each other in the fortress, Davis, despite having hulked out into a particularly spiky monster shortly before, is still wearing pants. Which meant that Doomsday had been wearing them all along. Which would, I think, have added an amusing note to that wedding massacre if we'd seen Dooms clearly.
CantThinkUpName
Dec 13, 2008 @ 12:32 pm
While I agree that Tess might go Rogue Evil, her betraying Lex is still sad to me. He needs
someone to side with him and I had so much hope for Tess, since she was cool. I still end up afraid that she'll end up Mrs. Queen and her "Legion" will be used for the big Doomsday battle at the end rather than to wreak havoc. I hope this is some sort of scam.
Which would, I think, have added an amusing note to that wedding massacre if we'd seen Dooms clearly.
I had the image of John Jones writing down witness interviews that say "He was spiky, boney. He was grey with red eyes. And he was wearing Dockers."
Ions
Dec 13, 2008 @ 12:53 pm
While I agree that Tess might go Rogue Evil, her betraying Lex is still sad to me. He needs someone to side with him and I had so much hope for Tess, since she was cool. I still end up afraid that she'll end up Mrs. Queen and her "Legion" will be used for the big Doomsday battle at the end rather than to wreak havoc. I hope this is some sort of scam.
It makes sense should Luthorcorp fall in order for Lexcorp to rise. It seems to me, should they go all Mythos on us, that Tess will be responsible for the fall of Luthorcorp, and since Tess and Oliver has been so close, even their businesses, to a point where they share everything... it makes me wonder if Queen Industries begin merger talks with Luthorcorp, and the sub company, Lexcorp is all that remains, and then Lex returns and Lexcorp sky rockets.
marenh
Dec 13, 2008 @ 12:56 pm
God, we can hope so. I'm amazed at PS3's ability to RUIN characters. I hold out hope because Chloe=Brainiac all this season. But they've ruined Clark and Jimmy beyond redemption (well Jimmy already sucked but Maxima put him over the top cause he claimed "it wasn't me" riiight). But they had Tess and Oliver---Tess has been in like seven episodes so far---and they managed to make them boring, uninteresting and irrelevant. Lois, always a drunk fucktard, has become a whining, crying, snotting, pining pwincess this season.
Ahem, Davis Bloome, you are on deck for any awesome to be squashed from you.
I laugh and smile at any attempts by these morons to ever find employment post-SV.
inked
Dec 13, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
I laugh and smile at any attempts by these morons to ever find employment post-SV.
This has also been a point I like to take comfort in after the aforementioned character assasinations this season. And I don't doubt for one moment that they will never get work on this level.
But back on topic, Doomsday has pants in the comics too. Sometimes he doesn't, but he has no genitals in those cases. Here's some pics:
1,
2 (from the Doomsday animated movie) and
3. But I've only read some genetic experiment Doomsday comics and of course where he SMASH PUNY SUPERMAN.
Massena1
Dec 13, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
I had the image of John Jones writing down witness interviews that say "He was spiky, boney. He was grey with red eyes. And he was wearing Dockers."
HEE! Now, I hope they show the witness reports for just this reason. :)
While I agree that Tess might go Rogue Evil, her betraying Lex is still sad to me. He needs someone to side with him and I had so much hope for Tess, since she was cool. I still end up afraid that she'll end up Mrs. Queen and her "Legion" will be used for the big Doomsday battle at the end rather than to wreak havoc. I hope this is some sort of scam.
I think this just confirmed Gina>Tess.
If Tess turns on Lex, he needs to bump her off. I figured he'd bump her off anyway, but this just makes it less regrettable. If she's not on Lex's side, she's worthless to the story. Rogue villains are not needed. Dooms fulfills that quota. Lex needs a minion to organize his army. If Tess isn't going to do it, then MR needs to get his behind back to SV asap to take care of the evil business.
BTW, as crappy as the CW treats AM/Chloe, I would point out that there was NO sign of JH/Ollie in the trailer, even though he will be in #12. They chose only MM, Clark, Clana, clips from 12. Even more insulting to JH/Ollie, the CW bypassed including new JH/Ollie stuff but inserted an old Nois shot.
But back on topic, Doomsday has pants in the comics too. Here's some pics: 1, 2 (from the Doomsday animated movie) and 3.
Those are some short shorts on Doomsday. By comparison, the dockers are more dignified.
Sometimes he doesn't, but he has no genitals in those cases.
I know many people would be crushed to imagine Davis as a eunuch. I'm guessing SW, Kristin at E! and the CW publicity dept. people would be among them.
Eeyore840
Dec 13, 2008 @ 1:54 pm
I know many people would be crushed to imagine Davis as a eunuch. I'm guessing SW, Kristin at E! and the CW publicity dept. people would be among them.
As would I...
Davis is the reason I am still watching (and for Chloe, of course)
Old Juan
Dec 13, 2008 @ 8:49 pm
Go figure on Legion pimping Lana. At least we can hope that this means there will be no Lois pimping.
AM4Lois
Dec 15, 2008 @ 1:17 am
Hey, guys:
Is Chloe hurt?There's a redish/brown stain on her dress. Is that blood? And is that from her fight with Clark? *shudders* This show is really going to make her come out of the Brainiac infection physically injured?
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