No, she doesn't, and frankly, I don't think it would be at all like Chloe to suddenly say "Hey, I don't have to deal with this myself anymore, so why should I bother to keep helping people who do?" I know an immediate return to the journalism would be preferred, but there's nothing to say she can't restart that while still being at Isis, if the DP is in fact her end point.

I don't know Chloe is Clark ally and she had shown to know a lot about kryptonian things. I can imagine he would like to know what was on her head before finishing her off just to have something else to use on Kal-El at some point. Brainiac had shown to be very sneaky.

I also think that he probably has a back up system everytime he is destroyed or close to be destroyed he mades a tiny copy of itself in the nearest place/person and that is why Chloe was infected by him.

IMHO, POD!Chloe truly began when Chloe became a Meteor freak. What made Chloe special was she was a normal human who loved an Alien and finds an interest in the strange/unknown. Open minded, but her becoming a MF cheapened that.


What if Brainiac was trying to erase her memories of Clark to begin with? In the confrontation he states how he's impressed that a friend of Kal-El's would do what she did and then he says "I remember you" and then he attacks her. What if the original attack was to erase her memories of Clark so Clark loses his friend and ally and it would finally be fulfilled in Abyss.

Yes. It's the fact that she was interested in the weird, that she was friends with an alien and that was OK, and so on as a normal human. That is what was cool - it was the fact that she could roll with the punches even though she was "just normal."



I think that was the whole point, so he was taking out Clark's ally.



Especially if the healing quote is true, then it could have reached kind of an infinate loop there which is why Brainiac was so tired. Infect/heal. Infect/heal. Infect/heal.

I don't think it would be like her just to drop it either. The Isis and helping the meteor freaks storyline needs to be dealt with, not dropped. I think we'll continue seeing the Isis storyline, because like hodl2003 said, it's connected with the Davis/Dooms storyline. And honestly, until the DP is out of Luthor hands or we know that there's a plan to make it so, I don't want Chloe back at the DP.

The thing to me is, Lana still owns Isis and will definitely need a set, so what are we going to have them both at Isis?

To the spoiler thread.

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Maybe they'll have the smackdown everyone's been waiting for if they are forced to work in close quarters?

Personally, I'd prefer one over the Fever Letter.

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I remember pre season we were speculating about Tess being some sort of Lex creation, or clone, using Luthor DNA and that's why they got Cassidy Freeman to dye her hair red.

But since Tess obviously isn't either of those things, why did Cassidy have to dye her hair? What was wrong with her staying a blonde? There doesn't seem to be a reason for it (beyond that she is smoking hot).

I'm not ruling out the possibility she's another long-lost sibling that Lex found years ago and kept her from Lionel. That way she'd need to look like them, hence the red hair, but would have grown up on her own and her backstory as presented thus far wouldn't be in jeopardy. Contrived and done before absolutely, but it would work with what they've set up.

The show is on the CW, therefore the reason proposed above is sufficient.

Nor I am. We've yet to hear exactly why Lex put her of all people in charge, and her face in "Committed" certainly seemed to indicate that there was more going on with Lex than him just being a "mentor." The red hair is so deliberate that I think it has to mean something. She was hot as a blonde too, so it can't just be that (unless they want to hammer home that red hair = Luthorian evil).

She could be Smallville's version of Lena Thorul. But maybe she doesn't know she's a Luthor. Maybe Lex put her through school and whatnot, but never revealed who he was to her. Gratitude could explain her devotion to Lex, but there could be a familial connection she herself feels but doesn't know about.

Eh, I don't know. I'd rather she was related than screwing Lex. It would sort of cheapen her devotion to him. Besides, the show already has a character that fits the bill on banging the boss. Really don't want another.

ETA: No way X is Lex, IMO. I think the show brought the possibility up too quickly for it to be true.

It's Chloiac. There was an interview with the PSSSHeads where Souders said "Chloe has some sort of secret life going on that we will discover as well." Bet that life is secret to her as well, much like with Bloome.

Word, apeygirl. Word.

In this interview (which Durq linked in the MR thread), Cassidy Freeman mentions Lex being like a brother to Tess more than once. I wonder if she's hinting at something.

I haven't ruled out a cloning, but also it's gives us distinct girls for those not paying close attention. When I watched Flash Gordon it took me about 3 episodes to get the girls straight because there were too many long haired brunettes. Also it seems a little comic booky. Gimme a blonde, a brunette and a red head.

With this show our options are: it still has meaning, it never had meaning, it had meaning at some point and they just forgot about it, or it had meaning at some point and they just gave up.

What I find odd about Tess' hair color is that, and maybe it's just me, I find it very similar to Lois' hair color. (Though I do understand Black Panda's point about blonde, brunette and redhead and I definitely agree Tess' hair is redder.)

I'm kind of disappointed that even if Tess' true backstory comes out (and I hope it does and I hope it's more than "Oliver dumped me, so I became a super VP"), we'll probably never get a real emotional connection with it because we don't have anyone we care about to tell her about it or to flashback to with her (unless it's a flashback featuring Anna Galvin). I really have to give CF a lot of credit as is right now to be able to take up the mantle with no help but to go to her "birth" without someone we care about there will be really hard to do.

Yeah. As I normally only watch with one eye on the screen, I've gotten confused in a couple of scenes. You'd think they would at least have given them different hair styles.

Speaking for myself, for a few moments in Plastique I thought Clark was carrying Lois from the destroyed bus until they showed her face and it was clearly Tess. It's happened a few times for like a split second or so since then but that was the most memorable (and longest) confusion I've had between the two.

Lionel sure got around. I'm assuming it's Lionel because, well, Lillian has a penchant for killing her young.



Right. Which is why she has to have some Luthory backstory we don't know about yet. Granted, if she's the long lost sister, then we should see Lucas showing up to challenge her claim, yes/yes?



Still think X is Brainiac, like you. She's able to access his powers and is loosing time and knew about that crystal and has stopped calling Jor-El, well, Jor-El? It's Brainiac.

Sad, but true. I would assume it was Lionel also. He has a history with leaving his illegitimate children to fend for themselves.

Yes! In fact, a Lucas/Tess argument could be the perfect time to reveal such a background. I figure it would have to be revealed in a very Luthor-centric scene, which to me means Tess would have to reveal it to either Lucas or Lana. The big Luthor family moments almost always stay within the family, even up to "Blue" (ugh).

This has my vote! I think it would be awesome to see Gina and Tess in a scene together, and it would provide an adequate foundation for establishing Tess' backstory.

That would be a gigantic cop-out, and I too hope it's more than that.

This wouldn't be a problem if Tess was Lucas with a sex change operation I mean Ugly Betty had Alex/Alexis it wouldn't be too farfetched for SV to rip that one too and it will explain a lot.

Sadly Lucas was a male by the time Ollie got lost and meet Tess :(

I really, really, hope Tess' backstory is more than 'Men pissed me off! Now I'm a bitch!'.

I don't care how much of a bad ass she is. Lex would need more reason than that to put her in charge in the event of his demise.

More Bloodline stills are out. Looks like "Lois" and Davis have a bit of a smackdown.

Official description of Abyss is up at k-site.



This is one episode I think I just might watch.

Woo, a hat trick! TheGooner with 8.07, PolarB with 8.08, and chlarkspuffy with 8.09. Thanks guys!

The picture of Faoris licking Davis, or whatever she's doing, while he's lying in a pool of (presumably) his own blood is so excellently twisted.

New BTS Identity photos at LA Times. Really cool stuff with the fight preparation, featuring Tom Welling, Erica Durance, Aaron Ashmore, Cassidy Freeman, and a stunt guy.

That was so cool. Thanks for finding that.

I really enjoy seeing how they pull off the effects sequences.

The more I think about Abyss after reading the official description, the more I think that everything will be back to some sort of normalcy by the end of the episode (specifically with regards to Chloe's memories of Clark). I just have little faith in the show to do a significant amount of carryover into Bride.

And I'm also willing to bet that nobody will say, as they should have already, that Jor-El is a lunatic who cannot be trusted.

At KSite, there are promotional photos for Abyss; Clark and Chloe in the FOS; Chloe and Davis hugging.

*sigh* Maybe we'll get one line? Like, "Hal 2.0 is evil but I really have no choice"?

Who am I kidding? Probably not.

Yeah, the situation is too similar for it not to be a deliberate shout out.

Just to reiterate what has already been said: wow for those pictures. my heart aches. Please don't let it be permanent, PS3. I imagine that scene is going to be a powerful one.

I love when Chloe hugs people, and the camera focuses on her facial expressions and the back of the other person. That particular pic reminded me of their reunion hug after Vessel. It's like the sad parallel of it.

Oh..and AceReporter mentioned this, and I want to piggyback off it: Nice that Chloe will be there when the FOS is rebuilt.

So, if I get this right (and please, correct me if I somehow misunderstand!)

1) Chloe was there when it was first rebuilt.
2) Lex was there when it was first destroyed
3) Chloe is there once again when it's rebuilt.

And the Chloe-Lex parallels keep on coming....

I don't think Chloe will be there when it's first rebuilt. Clark's in the Fortress in two different outfits (THRJ/ttbT and THBJ/ttrT). So I think he rebuilds the Fortress and brings Chloe there later.

BUT... he rebuilds the Fortress for her, so that says a lot.

Yeah he probably rebuilds it and then Jor-El suggests he bring her to it to cure her. I can't wait to see him carrying her! Those pics are so amazing. I've always said I'd forgive them for anything if they give me Chlark. All I got was a forehead kiss and I'm like, "ILU SV!" I know it's going to be so sad and bittersweet. I can't wait!

RE: Abyss photos:

I'll just swin in the shallow end for now and say: WOW!!

Chloe looks adorable. AM is looking as beautiful as always.

I haven't seen TW looking that young and pretty at all this season. Of course, he's always pretty, but lately he's been looking way older, IMO. These photos remind me of how he looked in "Arrival" when Chloe asks him to switch to SuperClark mode. Very pretty!

SW: Always HOT! He's so handsome!

I'm probably I'm in the minority here, but I hate the kiss that Clark gives Chloe. It's sweet and all, but reminds me too much of all the pity kisses he's given Chloe on the cheek or the forehead or something. It reminds me of the kiss he gave her in season 1 when she was thrown through the window at the Luthor mansion. Now, I just really want Clark to man-up and kiss her on the lips. Not in "Abyss" of course since Chloe is an engaged girl, but sometime after the marriage is annulled. It has to be annulled, right?

PS: Is Chloe not wearing the horrible plastic ring in "Abyss"? Did Jimmy actually get her a real ring? One can hope.

Jimmy4, I believe the ring has been changed since Committed..(just thinking of that episode makes he heave. ugh.)



You're right. But I still do like the idea that once it is rebuilt, she is *once again* the first one there after Clark..just like the last time. :)

What I really want to know is: How is Clark planning on getting her to the FOS if she doesn't remember him ir any of his secret? She seems unconscious, so does Brainy put her in that state? I doubt Clark would be:

Clark: "Hey Chloe!"
Chloe: "Uh..hi. Who are you?"
Clark: "I'm Clark, your BFF! Clearly you don't remember me, so to put 7 years into 2 minutes: I'm an alien, you are infected by another alien, I need to take you to my ice castle for my AI alien father to play God and cure you, and to do that I am going to superspeed to the Artic. Come on, jump on to the Kent Express"
Chloe: "Holy mother of..."

I must go into the shallow end a bit and say: damn TW's hands and arms are off the chain!

That's what I figure. I can't see him fighting her or knocking her out. I wonder what will happen to get her away from Davis. I could see that either being about Chlark or a Cloom confrontation, if Chloe's already unconscious.

Tennison's observation about the onyx crucific made me think about Davis. Many people have commented on Davis' clear resemblance to George Dean of the Apocalypse AU, and the producers have mentioned making the audience happy with Chloe's story-- and we know they realize Chimmy is not making the audience happy. Also, in "Prey" Chloe was talking about how she's never saved a meteor freak. It all made me wonder, what if the point of Chloe's arc this season is to save Davis?

Of course Doomsday must survive to the end of the season, to threaten Metropolis and fight Clark. But Doomsday has never been a Hulk or Jekyll and Hyde figure-- he's just an unreasoning monster who exists to kill. We also know that black K ("Onyx," "Crusade") can literally separate people into their good and bad halves, or divide out split personalities. So what if Clark and Chloe find out about Davis' killing sprees, but instead of having him arrested, try to save him by separating out his good and bad halves, or his two personalities? They would doubtless try to confine Doomie, but fail. That would leave Davis free for Chloe, and transform Doomie into the soulless killing machine he is in canon.

As a Chlarker, I'm not thrilled about anything that sets up Chlavis. But this nonetheless seems like a possibility to me.

Sounds feasible - Doomsday's origins are pretty weird anyway.

From Wikipedia's Doomsday entry:

Well, practically speaking, the flaw in my theory is that they can't afford a lot of CGI or other effects this year, so they won't be doing anything that forces them to show a lot of Doomie onscreen. However, they could do this in the last few episodes, and continue to mostly show Doomie as a shadowy figure until the big reveal in the last episode.

IIRC SV!Dooms has super-speed. They can use that to their best advantage until said reveal.

I like your theory a lot but it seems too well thought out for them to do it. Or optimistic for Davis. They like grinding characters down on this show even if they have a huge chance of being saved.

A split like that removes any tragedy regarding Davis becoming Doomsday - which from SW's interviews at least, seems to be what they're trying to set up - a good guy who gives in to the evil inside him. Reminds me of Lex, all sped up in a way.

They're also taking great care to keep Chloe from succumbing to Davis' charms - she's tied up with Chimmy, and Davis in essence reminds her of Clark - if they were setting up Chlavis, SWF-ing Clark's characteristics and having Chloe see them in Davis isn't the way to go to make me, at least, want them together.

Like Clark/Nois will be the cheap imitation of Chlark, so will Chlavis be the cheap imitation of Chlark - and I want more for Chlark than that. Emphasizing the Chlarky moments & characteristics in the stand-in characters in Chlark's lives doesn't make me want these other relationships for Chlark, it makes me want Chlark (and in my case, Chlois) more.

Also, gorgeous, heartrending promo pics like that don't make me go looking for Davis, they make me see Chlark ...and lordy, how good does Chloe look? She's got her season 5 look again!

Aside from Chlark/Chlois objections, EllyF, I think that your spec would just take too much away from Clark's story. It would be an interesting lead into season 9, but I'm not following.

You think? I can see it flowing naturally from his issues in "Prey"-- he was a little quick to judge there. It makes sense to me that the experience with Chloiac might convince him that he needs to try to save meteor freaks as much as possible, rather than just toss them in Belle Reve.



I totally agree that under these circumstances, Chlavis would just be a ripoff of Chlark. George Dean was clearly a stand-in for Clark, and if they did this, Davis would be, too. So seeing Chloe and Davis wind up together wouldn't make me happy-- I don't want to see the writers worm their way out of Chlark by throwing a substitute at Chloe. But I would like to see Davis saved, rather than give into the darkness the way Lex did. It would echo Chloe's arc this season, too.

ETA: I should add that I've always thought black K was a cheap, lazy writing device. I'm not saying I really want to see it used this way, just that I think the onyx crucifix may have been foreshadowing it.

I agree. The whole point of this Davis/Doomsday plot is to see Davis become this horrible monster that's going to kill Clark/Superman. Otherwise, they wouldn't have wasted Sam for this. They just could have kept Doomsday as this background character that still affected the plot and than brought him out for the big finale.

I thought it was an "Onyx" reference, too, but I thought it was because of the two sides of the villain aspect. It was a reference to how much Davis is like Lex. They both got stuck with a bad lot in life. Lex was raised to be cut throat, calculating, and well, evil (nurture) while Davis comes by his evil biologically (nature.) They both thought about choosing another path, but, in the end, neither are good guys.

This might belong in the "Prey" thread, but they intended us to see the irony that Davis is getting a medal for being a hero when he was the one who murdered those people. He's a pretender. He's not a real hero even though that's what other people see when they look at him and that is what they are labeling him. *We* see the truth. Clark is the hero. Clark is the one who saved Jimmy and caught Mary's murderer. Right now, Davis is getting all the public kudos and has Chloe fooled, but that won't last. I mean I will feel sorry for him. It stinks that he couldn't just be a good guy, but the proof of a person's character is what they do when life gives them tough breaks.

The depth and strength of a human character are defined by its moral reserves. People reveal themselves completely only when they are thrown out of the customary conditions of their life, for only then do they have to fall back on their reserves.
-- Leonardo da Vinci

The measure of a man's real character is what he would do if he knew he would never be found out.
-- Thomas Babington Macaulay

We know what Davis would do if he thought he would not be found out. I think even Jimmy Olsen, Womanizer, who I barely tolerate, would have made another choice. No matter how much it sucked, I think Jimmy's conscience would have compelled him to do what was best for other people even if he thought he could get away with something. Just because Jimmy is the wrong guy for Chloe, doesn't make Davis the right one.

I think I like the idea better of Davis being somehow Clark evil half or clone maybe drove to Metropolis and Chloe because of whatever thing was the Gay Disco Ball supposed to do. What if it was made out of Black K? Or maybe Davis arrived to earth on another ship at the same time Clark did do we know the exact origin of doomsday on this show?