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Sue Denim
Based on the stills from Kryptonsite isn't Lois also in 802, or do I not understand. (Always a possiblity for me).
Teen Titan
Sorry, I realised once I'd posted that I'd left that out. It's corrected now. Only one Lois free episode in the first eight...
Sue Denim
Thanks Teen Titan

Well, I'd say the same thing if Nois had 13/13 still, but 6/13 to Cnois screams lightswitch harder.

Matt: Erica Durance tells me that Lana's reentry into Clark's life will "create some heartache for Lois." They have the whole triangle going again, she adds. And in a way that's very hard for Miss Lane.

Matt also says to look out for his Q&A with ED in which she reveals the last thing he ever expected to hear as Sept. 18th gets closer


Thanks liz for the quote.

Dude, you are kiddin' me? I cannot fathom that ED is talking about a Lana/Clark/Nois triangle, bc I think that's what Matt is suggesting.

I'm pretty happy right now just the same.
PolarB
Matt: Erica Durance tells me that Lana's reentry into Clark's life will "create some heartache for Lois." They have the whole triangle going again, she adds. And in a way that's very hard for Miss Lane.

Emphasis mine. There has never been a Lana/Clark/Lois triangle, so how can it be "going again"? Unless of course they're actually talking about Lana/Clark/Chloe, and the effect it has on Lois seeing Chloe in that position again.
liz antoinette
I don't know what she means by "again", since there was never a triangle to begin with.

Unless of course they're actually talking about Lana/Clark/Chloe, and the effect it has on Lois seeing Chloe in that position again.

*hopes* I would like for this to be the case because I just don't see why Nois would be affected by Clana otherwise.
Memphis1
I think the evidence is all there guys. Wanda said in her interview with PS3 that they said it wouldn't be as drastic as making out, but she pretty much included Lois in the scenario. And here Erica Durance is saying it again. There is no reason for Lois to be heartbroken for Chloe. I don't know why she said again, but the writing is on the wall. IMO
Sue Denim
Well, in "Gone" when Lana returns, we get a brief little Nois/Clark/Lana scene and then the end in the caves with Clana. Lana says something about Nois to Clark, suggesting he's interested her. Still, the sum of this is about 90 seconds and it makes way, way more sense to say that the triangle is Chloe/Clark/Lana.
Memphis1
I think, and if Lois is indeed the one involved in the Lana/Clark deal and not Chloe, I think that Chloe and Clark resolve whatever is going on after Committed. Craig has already said Prey isn't shipper based and Chloe, Clark, and Jimmy are all involved in that, so I'd think there would be angst, but there isn't.
EllyF
I don't know what she means by "again", since there was never a triangle to begin with.


Maybe she just means "oh God, another flippin' triangle, aren't we all sick of them by now?".

There is no reason for Lois to be heartbroken for Chloe. I don't know why she said again, but the writing is on the wall. IMO


Well, actors don't always have a really good sense of where their arc is going, because they only know what they've read so far in the scripts. But if EDLois is genuinely "heartbroken" over Clark and Lana, that's lame. There is no way EDLois can fall for Clark hard enough in the first half of the season, after she's spent four years dissing him and simply not caring about him that much. Chloe I could believe, considering how long she's spent loving Clark. But EDLois/Clark/Lana is just not a triangle that's ever really been done on the show.

Still, I have to admit it looks like there's a good chance that's where they're headed. Not that I'm watching anyway *smiles*.
CantThinkUpName
Unless of course they're actually talking about Lana/Clark/Chloe, and the effect it has on Lois seeing Chloe in that position again.
Well that makes sense. And we all know how much Lois feels for Chloe and how empathetic she is for others.

Hahahahah.
Adela1985
I don't know why she said again, but the writing is on the wall. IMO


The writing for Clark to reconsider feelings for Chloe and Lois for Oliver. The possibiilty that Lana shows up in episode 10, the Chlimmy wedding episode. The fact that AMliles before and PS3 now are once again stating that Lois and Clark are going to be getting closer together when in reality Chlark is the one getting closer. The writing definitely is on the wall but not what ED is hoping it will be.
sita102
The writing definitely is on the wall but not what ED is hoping it will be.


She thought thw writing was on the wall last season when she claimed Lois and Lex would have an adversarial relationship that would be the backbone of Lois' storyline for the season - only, she slept with her boss & didn't cotton on to anything about his role with Lex, or have any sort of adversarial relationship at all.

This sounds like more of the same - her hopes for the season, without really knowing the big picture involving Chloe & Clark's relationship. I get the feeling she doesn't know what spoilers were leaked, otherwise she'd make Lois look better than she does.
Sue Denim
It's possible that she's been misquoted. It makes no sense for Cloisana to come up.
CantThinkUpName
It makes no sense for Cloisana to come up.
ICONIC!!!
CityLife
So, Nois will be falling for Clark now. Even though it's been stated she's a chlark supporter.
RepairmanBob
Matt: Erica Durance tells me that Lana's reentry into Clark's life will "create some heartache for Lois." They have the whole triangle going again, she adds. And in a way that's very hard for Miss Lane.

Matt also says to look out for his Q&A with ED in which she reveals the last thing he ever expected to hear as Sept. 18th gets closer
Oh, ICONIC lightswitch... you make me long for simpler days.

I remember when a Flying Barn Door of Inspiration might seem dumb, but at least the show acknowledged it as such. I felt like Al and Miles were telling me "Yes, this is bullshit, but come one - at least it's funny! It's as flying barn door! We're doing the best we can here!" I could laugh, because if the show was not taking itself seriously, how could I? Flying Barn Door, Martyred Drunken Hook-Up and I could chuckle at the absurd lengths used to justify Lois's existence over a nice bottle of port.

But you, ICONIC lightswitch, do not even do me that dignity. You kick me in the balls and shout "This is how the story always goes! Fuck the last seven years! Lois and Clark always get together! Clark ends up at the Daily Planet! Who gives a shit how it happens?" You do not even make a token effort to justify what happens anymore. No, you just blunder along, like a rhinoceros or a drunken Lane woman in a China shop, leaving smashed character development,k devistated continunity and shattered plot developments in your wake.

ICONIC lightswitch, you are a dullard and a bore of the first order. May your ratings for Odyssey make the Gossip Girl premiere look successful. I say good day to you, sir.

I SAID GOOD DAY!
Tobi
Have you guys heard of Elly's Sexagon theory. All the mismatching spoilers about triangles makes it look like every female is considering every male in teh cast and vice versa. I vote for one old gang bang to get it over with. I still think that this is a lot more like the vaunted TCA last year and what ED WISHES were happening.

Besides, even if something looks more concrete by about episode seven, doesn't mean it can't be nice and retconned. Welling and Rosenbaum thought there was a baby in season six. Ha! punked!
Sue Denim
I vote for one old gang bang to get it over with.

Well, the barn set is very large. They can raise the roof and have a hoedown. (Sorry, some midwestern farm humor).

*ducks tomatoes*
Eurybia
Matt also says to look out for his Q&A with ED in which she reveals the last thing he ever expected to hear as Sept. 18th gets closer
In a mainstream publication, what is surprising about the actress who plays Lois Lane talking about a love triangle between her character, Clark Kent, and Lana Lang? Whenever the media or the PTB talk about this show, it's in ICONIC! terms- "Lois and Clark will get closer," "Lois will be working at the DP," etc. So the most surprising thing, from that perspective, is the reveal that the love triangle is not Cloisana, but Chlarkana. I could definitely see ED talking about how it's hard for her to be put in a position of seeing her cousin hurt again.

Or it could mean Cloisana, but at this point, that seems bizarre. YMMV.
nwp01
Matt: Erica Durance tells me that Lana's reentry into Clark's life will "create some heartache for Lois." They have the whole triangle going again, she adds. And in a way that's very hard for Miss Lane.

Matt also says to look out for his Q&A with ED in which she reveals the last thing he ever expected to hear as Sept. 18th gets closer


I think this is all smoke and mirrors. So if I understand correctly:

1) PS3 said in an interview that though there have been changes, we will see the same old characters that we've known for 7 years..and they said that the Clois relationship was sibling-like. Out of their own mouth, not mine.

2) Lois begins to "reconsider" feelings for Ollie

3) Up comes the Fever letter, with Clark thinking about what he's missing...what that means? Who the heck knows.

4) Jimmy continues to be a whiny bitch about Chlark

5)Somewhere in between, Lois has become a Chlarker

6) Yet, while becoming a chlarker, she's secretly crushing on Clark?

7) So that when Lana returns, she's heartbroken because the "triangle" begins again? (huh?)

8) All the while, trying to fall out of love with Ollie???

9) While Clark reconsiders feelings, he makes out with Maxima (mindwhammy!) and might be interested in Tess?

10) While Ollie is assessing his feelings for Lois and his heroism, he might be crushing on Black Canary?

11) Yet, maybe have a thing with Tess and make Lois jealous?

12) Doomie interested in Chloe who's marrying Jimmy and in love with Clark who might have feelings for her...and maybe developing feelings for Lois, who's left heartbroken when Lana returns?

What the heck is going on here? This is some convoluted.....

All smoke and mirrors. It has to be. This is too ridiculous. Excuse me while I laugh.
Alottapmk
It is possible that the surprising thing has nothing to do with relationships. From what Matt told me in a email he was given a TON of information from Erica and im sure it all can't be about relationships. Pluse since the interview is with her it would make since that pretty much all of it would be about her and her character even if it meant Cloisana.
nwp01
True Alottapmk. I was speculating more to the "heartache" part of the news.

But to your point of something that Matt never expected to hear: For a character named Lois Lane, whom we all know so much about based on comics etc, what could possibly be surprising? Let's start a list:

1) She dies. No no..I'm kidding (but not). It won't happen. It would be surprising as hell, but I doubt tptb have the balls to do it, and if they did, it sure wouldn't come out in an interview.

2) Lois gets a Pulitzer from being the bestest reporter evah! while Clark was away! Hmmm...surprising? Possibly. In the worst way ever.

3) ED has her episodes upped to 22, and she's now 2nd in the credits! No comment.

4) ED is getting involved in some acting projects etc outside of Smallville. Congratulations Erica! Not surprising though.

5) Lois is pregnant for....? (takers anyone?) Unlikely, but another on the list of surprising as hell.

6) Lois Lane is a dye-job brunette. Hey, her hair went from light brown with highlights to dark brown-non highlights in the few weeks Clark was gone. They've totally destroyed the argument that Lois is a natural brunette.

The list could go on...this is more fun than assessing spoilers!
CantThinkUpName
7) Lois realizes she loves Clark. See we wouldn't expect that since they barely have any scenes together and she likes Superman but with the obsessions with triangles, maybe she discovered her true feelings for Clark! Finally! Thanks show! After all, they're pretty people and pretty people have no choice but to fall in love.

nwp, it's a mess trying to figure out how these characters feel. For starters, it changes every week- I don't even think the writers know or care. Often, it doesn't even seem like they "feel" anything. We never get the necessary insight to the characters to determine how exactly they feel (I still don't know how Chloe feels about Jimmy). We've been promised so many things that they never deliver (e.g. the original Clollis triangle). Basically, it's anyone's guess what anything means with this show. If I had to guess, people will act exactly the same and then they'll try and rationalize it anyway they can.
Teen Titan
RepairmanBob, I only have this to say: Marry me!
Mythos
it's a mess trying to figure out how these characters feel. For starters, it changes every week- I don't even think the writers know or care


Smallville has always been a shipper based show with some action added to the mix. I honestly don't see season 8 changing that. Every ship will probably get there moment in the sun one way or another this season. I personally would love to see them end off Clana with Clark letting Lana down at the end of her 5 episodes but I am guessing they will leave it open ended not to piss off the Clana shippers.

Good story telling says pick one girl and stick with a solid story of Clark and Girl X's relationship this season, but that won't be the way it goes. Every shipper group will get there share of nuts to chew on. I think one spoiler that sticks out big time to be is "Lois is Chlarker one", I am guessing it will be a 30 second scene where Lois will say something that is instantly forgetable where Clark gives an ambigious answer that can be taken 2 ways(such as his comments in Crimson) just to give the Chlarkers hope that Lois won't date Clark for the rest of the season.

It's for this reason that Smallville will probably never be accepted as a true telling of the Superman legend and more of an alternate reality(sort of like Superman's GF Lois Lane comics).
Eurybia
If I had to guess, people will act exactly the same and then we'll try and rationalize it anyway we can.
Corrected for accuracy, CTUN. ;-) Because I don't think they care enough to rationalize. They'll just say they "explained all that" even though they DID NOT.

ED has her episodes upped to 22
I do wonder about this (not to 22, but to 18 or so). I find it highly unlikely, but it also seems strange that she's featured so heavily at the beginning of the season (7 of the first eight, according to Teen Titan's breakdown). Someone speculated that it would be to give ED some time off to film her movie in the middle of the season; do we have any idea if that's true?
CantThinkUpName
It's for this reason that Smallville will probably never be accepted as a true telling of the Superman legend and more of an alternate reality(sort of like Superman's GF Lois Lane comics).
That's just one of the many, many, many, many reasons why Smallville will never and can never be accepted as a true telling of the Superman legend.
Mythos
I do wonder about this (not to 22, but to 18 or so). I find it highly unlikely, but it also seems strange that she's featured so heavily at the beginning of the season (7 of the first eight, according to Teen Titan's breakdown). Someone speculated that it would be to give ED some time off to film her movie in the middle of the season; do we have any idea if that's true?


From what I read TPTB wanted to use Lois in more then 13 episodes in Season 6 but she had other projects she was doing(a season where her episodes were top heavy). This season they are giving the ambigious answer we can use her for more(not really saying they are going to). My guess is alot will depend on ratings for the first 4-5 episodes. If the feedback is good(ratings slightly worse then last season or better) they probably will try get her in more late season episodes, if the ratings go down the shitter(to low 3s) they will probably will write her out of a few episodes in order to save cash.
Bkwurm
From what I read TPTB wanted to use Lois in more then 13 episodes in Season 6 but she had other projects she was doing(a season where her episodes were top heavy).


I've never heard anything like this before. Where did you?

Matt also says to look out for his Q&A with ED in which she reveals the last thing he ever expected to hear as Sept. 18th gets closer


What if it is an announcement from the actress about the job or how long she will be on Smallville.

On a different topic.

I'm basing this only on a few pictures, but I thought that Tess and Lois look a lot a like from behind. Could there possibly be a case where someone mixes up Lois and Tess and if you hold to the whole Lois gets shot theory, maybe she is shot in error?
Nat0117
I just keep going back to the line about Lana's return being "an awesome moment in the history of Smallville." This, to me, doesn't really seem to indicate that Nois would be involved. And really, for Nois to be upset by Lana's returning would mean that she'd have to fall for Clark pretty damn quickl and reevaluating her feelings for Oliver.

Now...it's possible that KK's return was pushed back due to scheduling conflicts, and the "awesome moment" line no longer applies.

I also find the peculiar line about ED telling Matt something he never expected to hear to be interesting. I would think it'd either be a death or Nois quitting the DP, but neither seems like a likely thing for her to talk about in an interview as either would be a huge event.

I agree that there's a major smoke and mirrors job going here. I don't think we're looking at Clois. It's been said time and again that Clois WILL NOT hook up on this show. And the fact that the "Fever" letter is resurfacing and Clark evaluating his feelings...that doesn't spell Clois to me. I don't know what to think for sure, but all I know is that ED has 5 episodes left after the ones that we've gotten spoilers about and she's going to be dealing with feelings for Oliver, and Chloe is in every episode for the rest of the season, Clark will realize his feelings for her, and she is going to be involved with the character with whom Clark has his ultimate showdown. I think we're intentionally being jerked in different directions to keep what actually goes down under wraps. There are too many dueling spoilers.
sita102
After some of ED’s other Q&As and some comments on LJ about her habits in interviews I think this will be the gist of the TV Guide one coming up, the additions in brackets are mine:

* Lois will be a serious journalist (who hasn’t published anything) and will show Clark the ropes (though he and Jimmy may actually know more than her) of working at the DP, because it’s her (iconic) calling. This will lead to the iconic partnership (because it has to and their characters have the right names) and Lois will begin to like the Clark she sees in a suit (because the one that saved her and let her live in his home just can’t match up to Clark wearing a suit).

*She, Clark and Jimmy will have many iconic scenes together that will remind viewers of the past ILLs, ICKs, and IJOs and show the audience how iconic this season will be (it doesn’t matter what the current audience of the show – the ones who have followed her through barn doors and sleeping with her boss – thinks, it’s iconic, because they have the right names for it to be iconic – also I don’t think Chloe will be mentioned here).

* She will – iconically - be a hindrance to Clark as he tries to save the day and meet his deadlines. The wacky hijinks that ensue, will obviously also be iconic because so many ICKs and ILLs have done it before.

* Lois will enter into a battle of wits against Tess (I somehow doubt this will lead to a lesbian fling). Lois will sense (or Tess will leave a valuable clue out for her to find) that Tess is up to no good, and will decide that she will expose her boss for the evil person that she is and redeem the DP. Clark may believe Tess is innocent and a Lex-pawn, but Lois with her sharp nose for news will know better (personally, I think she’s going to be jealous of Ollie/Tess and will investigate her because of this)

* Lois will also be the big sister to Chloe, and try to set her cousin straight about Jimmy (Lois will sacrifice the romance of wacky hijinks so that Clark will be happy with Chloe? No, Lois is going to be in the triangle with Clark and Lana according to ED. Hm, this one’s a toughie. I’m not sure that ED will mention Chloe, to be honest – she doesn’t usually. If she’s pushing the Clark/Lana/Lois triangle, and knows that Lois is pushing Chlark, it’s probably better that she doesn’t. She might try to ingratiate Lois into the Doomsday storyline, by virtue of saying that she will warn Chloe that Davis isn’t a good guy)

* Ollie is really the 3rd wheel in the budding Clark and Lois relationship (Lois will never feel for the man she loved enough to risk a rebound relationship with her boss at the risk of her career what she feels when she sees Clark in a suit)


I think ED really wants to be the lead of the show and tries to make it seem like she is in her interviews. On the surface, it's the sort of gloss that might intrigue a new viewer for a couple of episodes, but the older viewers know her habits in her interviews and also probably know spoilers by now (unless they're extreme spoiler-phobes).

I also find the peculiar line about ED telling Matt something he never expected to hear to be interesting. I would think it'd either be a death or Nois quitting the DP, but neither seems like a likely thing for her to talk about in an interview as either would be a huge event.


That's what I was thinking too. However, I'm also thinking she might want to sell Lois as the victim here, in that she supports a Chlark relationship even as if to say Lois is already in love with Clark - it's one thing she could do in order to make her interviews more palatable to viewers when they see her supporting Chlark and essentially wanting another of the guy's Chloe is interested in.

I'm beginning to think the latter is deliberate - she thinks for some reason, Jimmy likes her last season, this season she thinks Clark is hot in a suit just as he's beginning to be interested in Chloe - I wonder what how she's going to react to Davis - a hero, a normal guy by all accounts who likes her cousin.
wwg23
Matt also says to look out for his Q&A with ED in which she reveals the last thing he ever expected to hear as Sept. 18th gets closer

ED reveals that Nois will be engaged to Ollie! Dun dun dun. Yeah.
Sue Denim
I personally would love to see them end off Clana with Clark letting Lana down at the end of her 5 episodes but I am guessing they will leave it open ended not to piss off the Clana shippers.

If they (PTB) leave Clana out there, I'm not gonna believe that Clark has moved on. So, for me, the spoiler for Lana coming back is important, because I need to hear and see Clark move on from her. What may be too much to hope for, is to see Lana held accountable for her actions and CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR in the past.

I'm not gonna believe Clark has moved on from Lana, unless I see him behavior in a manner that supports it with Lana herself as his foil.

Nois to be upset by Lana's returning would mean that she'd have to fall for Clark pretty damn quickly, all the while proving to be a Chlark supporter and reevaluating her feelings for Oliver.


Hail, the almighty lightswitch!

Does anyone really want their emotions flipped around that much? I don't think it's all true, the spoilers that support one another is that Clark may be re-evaluating his relationship, feelings, for Chloe. That opinion comes from my own skew as a Chlarker of course. I'll qualify that. Still, Nois is gonna come out looking like SV!Cybill with the amount of lightswitching they'll need to do if she does move from man to man like that. I don't see it as a plus for her at all.

I have no idea what *shocking* thing ED told Matt about Nois was. I'm having enough problems understanding the logic of the spoilers we do have. My guess is, "Lois does not end up with Clark" would floor most, but that would not be healthy to say, commercially.
Nat0117
I think one spoiler that sticks out big time to be is "Lois is Chlarker one", I am guessing it will be a 30 second scene where Lois will say something that is instantly forgetable where Clark gives an ambigious answer that can be taken 2 ways(such as his comments in Crimson) just to give the Chlarkers hope that Lois won't date Clark for the rest of the season.

Just had another thought about this, but need to take it to Spoilers ? I didn't see it in the big Spec post, so that's why I'm putting it there).
savingpeople
The writing for Clark to reconsider feelings for Chloe and Lois for Oliver. The possibiilty that Lana shows up in episode 10, the Chlimmy wedding episode. The fact that AMliles before and PS3 now are once again stating that Lois and Clark are going to be getting closer together when in reality Chlark is the one getting closer. The writing definitely is on the wall but not what ED is hoping it will be.


I completely agree, which is why I find ED's comment so strange. Lana's return shouldn't affect Clark and Nois and thus create a triangle, it should affect Chlark, given the resurgence of the "Fever" letter and Nois pimping Chlark.

I'm having a hard time believing ED's comments because they don't jive with the story we're being given. My guess is that Erica is talking about a small moment or a short scene that is being blown out of proportion.
Fos32
Lana's return shouldn't affect Clark and Nois and thus create a triangle, it should affect Chlark, given the resurgence of the "Fever" letter and Nois pimping Chlark.


All of the "Fever" letter stuff happens in "Instinct", which is the fourth episode of the season. Lana probably won't return until episode 10, at the earliest, so I don't see how the "Fever" letter would affect Chlark, especially when a Chimmy wedding is likely to take place prior to Lana's return as well. That's not to say that there is going to be a significant amount of Clois development that's going to take place in order to create a realistic triangle by the time Lana returns, but IMO, the "Fever" letter seems to be old news by that point and Clois seems to be more of a fixture. YMMV.
Alottapmk
Well assuming Erica going from what she has read in the scripts, how can you find it strange? We only know bits and pieces of 42 minute episodes. Clark reconsidering feelings for Chloe could be just him trying to figure out if he made the right decison and once he has decided he did, he's done with the whole thing. The producers did mention that they had "one" episode that dealt with the Chloe/Clark thing. And the whole Lois "Chlark" supporter thing could that she would prefer Clark with Chloe than Lana and thats it. And in the same manner of Clark reconsidering feelings for Chloe, Lois will be doing that with Oliver but not getting back together. According to Matt they discuss their breakup and such but won't be getting back together. So I see it as Clark and Lois getting past old relationship baggage so that they can start with a clean slate.
smiling sarah
All of the "Fever" letter stuff happens in "Instinct", which is the fourth episode of the season. Lana probably won't return until episode 10, at the earliest, so I don't see how the "Fever" letter would affect Chlark, especially when a Chimmy wedding is likely to take place prior to Lana's return as well.
You re-introduce the letter simply because it stirs old feelings and creates inner conflict for Clark & Chloe. The irony of it's timing is absolutely delicious. Chloe will have committed herself to be married to someone else at the point that this old letter is brought up again. I have to think this lingers far past episode 4. I think it will create all types of inner turmoil for Chlark. Lana returning later is necessary for all of this to play out, imo.
Chiriru
This sounds like more of the same - her hopes for the season, without really knowing the big picture involving Chloe & Clark's relationship. I get the feeling she doesn't know what spoilers were leaked, otherwise she'd make Lois look better than she does.


That's my gut feeling; kind of like last year when she tried to stir up the Thomas Crowne Affair thing and downplayed the Grant sleeping as "Well, she wants the job so..."

So the most surprising thing, from that perspective, is the reveal that the love triangle is not Cloisana, but Chlarkana. I could definitely see ED talking about how it's hard for her to be put in a position of seeing her cousin hurt again.


Now that is one of the last things I actually would expect ED to talk about; but I'm not sold that is what she is talking about. I mean for all we know she'll be talking about something that is already leaked, or in an episode already written. Personally the last thing I expect to hear is a true confirmation of MR return, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

She dies. No no..I'm kidding (but not). It won't happen. It would be surprising as hell, but I doubt tptb have the balls to do it, and if they did, it sure wouldn't come out in an interview.


Yeah that would be something they wouldn't leak.

I've never heard anything like this before. Where did you?


I heard it floated that they were arranging it so she could film a movie (one that looks like it's never been released) but that was from other fans, not the PTB and there was no re-upping her even on the table.

I just keep going back to the line about Lana's return being "an awesome moment in the history of Smallville."


And there are only two characters left with a lot of history with Lana.

I'm having a hard time believing ED's comments because they don't jive with the story we're being given. My guess is that Erica is talking about a small moment or a short scene that is being blown out of proportion.


It would be par for the course; in her defence I think we really dig into any spoilers we get no matter whom the source is.

You re-introduce the letter simply because it stirs old feelings and creates inner conflict for Clark & Chloe. The irony of it's timing is absolutely delicious. Chloe will have committed herself to be married to someone else at the point that this old letter is brought up again. I have to think this lingers far past episode 4. I think it will create all types of inner turoil for Chlark. Lana returning later is almost necessary for all of this to play out, imo.


Exactly; I've heard for years that it was over, it did it's part, no one remembers it but Chlarkers and especially Chloisers. All they will do is serve to remind everyone about that letter, what it actually says, and what the triangle it centered around actually was. And the Jimmy/Lana parallels have been noted even by the show itself, so Jimmy finding out about it -- that means they are going to have to really address what Lana feels/felt about it too, IMO.
Nat0117
Also, ED does say when asked about her relationship with Oliver that, "Lois does have to confront her breakup with Oliver, and they do have a few storylines together, but from what I've seen they're not getting back together in the near future." ED is only in 12/13 episodes! How can she be in a few storylines with Oliver, develop feelings for Clark, be distraught over Lana returning, and be Bestest Reporter Evah in that short amount of time? Also, just as I read Swimmer's comments about Chlark supporters having to "keep waiting" and that they won't get together "this year" as insinuating that the pairing is an intended one that just isn't going to happen YET, I read ED's comments about Lollie in the "near future" that they'll eventually reunite.

Also, it's clear that she doesn't really know where anything is going, and I'm sure none of the actors know either. Which makes these interviews, IMO, ones to be read with grains of salt as interpretations of what has gone on in eps that've been filmed and the scripts for new ones rather than an overall view of the season through to the finale.
EllyF
Exactly; I've heard for years that it was over, it did it's part, no one remembers it but Chlarkers and especially Chloisers. All they will do is serve to remind everyone about that letter, what it actually says, and what the triangle it centered around actually was.


I have to think this lingers far past episode 4. I think it will create all types of inner turmoil for Chlark.


What makes me think this may be the case, despite my current pessimism, is that it makes little sense to bring it up just to dismiss it. The Fever letter happened a long time ago. A lot of viewers may not even recall it. By exhuming it and bringing it back into the light, all they're accomplishing is to remind us that Clark has a long, complex relationship with Chloe, and that Chlark's lives have been closely intertwined for virtually the whole series. They're also reminding us that there have been romantic feelings between them in the past, not just platonic ones. This hardly seems to me to be the sort of thing the writers would want to bring up if they want to jump seriously into a Clark/EDLois relationship, especially considering that Chloe and EDLois are cousins.
Fos32
Well assuming Erica going from what she has read in the scripts, how can you find it strange? We only know bits and pieces of 42 minute episodes. Clark reconsidering feelings for Chloe could be just him trying to figure out if he made the right decison and once he has decided he did, he's done with the whole thing.


I agree, and to this point, there's not a lot of Chlark stuff that we know of past episode four. Plus, where are these conflicted feelings that Chlark have in the Chimmy wedding episode, which is likely to air well before Lana's return? I just think that there are a few episodes that could sort of continue this Chlark confusion but I don't see anything to indicate that it will.

ED is only in 12/13 episodes!


I'm not as sure of that as I used to be. ED is in 7 of the first 8 episodes of the season, which has never happened before. I figured that TPTB would make up for it by having Lois absent from the majority of episodes that Lana was in, but we now know that she will at least be in one of them.

You re-introduce the letter simply because it stirs old feelings and creates inner conflict for Clark & Chloe.


Agreed, but we don't know how long this inner conflict is going to last or how significant it will be. It might just last the one episode, especially since it hasn't been mentioned in any other episode after that.
Alottapmk
From the producers comments the reason the letter was brought back up was because they went back to the beginning seasons to see if there was anything they could bring back, cue the letter.
Nat0117
I just think that there are a few episodes that could sort of continue this Chlark confusion but I don't see anything to indicate that it will.

I would agree with you if we didn't know that the introduction of the letter was going to force Clark to reexamine his feelings for Chloe and that while Clark doesn't want to ruin Chloe's happiness, sometimes feelings get in the way. If the letter was being brought up to render obsolete one of the major strongholds in the Chlois/Chlark theory, it would have to be made crystal clear that feelings on both ends have become platonic--for Clark, to confirm that he feels nothing for Chloe despite his perceived intimacy with her over the past fews years and to put to rest the possibility that he has feelings for her, and for Chloe, to confirm that she has totally moved on from that S2 mindset and is truly devoted to Jimmy, and especially to remind us that Chloe's totally over Clark so that Nois can feel free to move in without viewers questioning her loyalties.

From the producers comments the reason the letter was brought back up was because they went back to the beginning seasons to see if there was anything they could bring back, cue the letter.

There are a million other ways to harken back to the "glory days" of SV. Like, say, bringing back Pete--which was done, and he never even had a scene with Chlark to throwback to the Three Musketeers days. They still have the Talon...they can bring back Martha, they can have random FotWs return or draw from storylines that were done way back when. The "Fever" letter is sacred ground. The only reason to resurrect it would be to spark Chlark or kill it completely and unquestionably dead. Since the latter is decidedly NOT happening, then I have to believe it's the former.
Fos32
I would agree with you if we didn't know that the introduction of the letter was going to force Clark to reexamine his feelings for Chloe


I moved this from my above post because it seemed to fit here. Remember "Trespass"(?), when Chloe was supposed to reconsider her feelings for Clark? That didn't exactly happen and Chloe instead got back together with Jimmy. My only point here is that the information we get prior to the episodes airing, not to say that it's always wrong, but it tends to only focus on a small part of an episode and makes it seem like it's a huge deal when it really isn't.

The only reason to resurrect it would be to spark Chlark or kill it completely and unquestionably dead. Since the latter is decidedly NOT happening, then I have to believe it's the former.


Why wouldn't the latter happen? I'm not saying that it will, but theoretically speaking, Chloe might end up marrying Jimmy when all is said and done this season while Clark faces more romantic drama with Lana and Lois and if that happens, I don't see Chlark being an issue anymore romantically, unless TPTB want to have Clark go after another married woman and have Chloe cheat on her husband with Clark.
Massena1
"Lois does have to confront her breakup with Oliver, and they do have a few storylines together, but from what I've seen they're not getting back together in the near future." (emphasis mine)


She probably doesn't know what happens in 9 or 10 because we find out stuff before the actors do at this point (except for TW who is clearly the most informed of all the actors. ) At Comic Con, AM was asked about The Fever Letter by the CW source because we already had spoilers for it and people had time to submit questions about it. Yet, AM said she hadn't read the script and she didn't know what was going to happen. ED has seen up to Episode 8 max at this point and so from "what she's seen" it doesn't look like she and Ollie are getting back together. They don't have 10 written yet. And that episode is suppose to be huge. Let's say something really bad happens in 10 and the Earth cracks open and time ticks backwards and Nois decides to get over her objections in dating Ollie (the superhero problem) because life is too short not to be with the one you love. Didn't Bo say something like that once on the show? I say Nois and Ollie hook up again in 10 and that explains part of her absence during Lana's episodes.
Nat0117
My only point here is that the information we get prior to the episodes airing, not to say that it's always wrong, but it tends to only focus on a small part of an episode and makes it seem like it's a huge deal when it really isn't.

But the producers weren't the ones to drop hints about "Trespass." And the stuff about Clark reexamining his feelings, or that they'll get in the way of him leaving Chloe to her happiness didn't come from an ambiguous Ausiello interview, but right from PS3. So, IMO, I don't think there's much left to question about whether it will or won't happen--but just how much Clark will allow himself to act on those feelings, if at all.
Fos32
But the producers weren't the ones to drop hints about "Trespass."


But they did drop hints about Raya being Clark's love interest in season 6. That's why I don't think that the source matters. Not everything that comes out of TPTB's mouth is made into a huge deal in the actual episodes that air, but YMMV.
Alottapmk
But the thing is by the time we get to episode 9 or 10 it seems from the information given that shes going to be falling for Clark and I dont see her getting back with Oliver, especially if they don't have a lot of storylines together in the latter half. I believe Oliver will probably be more involved with Tess and Chloe (not romantically of course) than Lois.
realtime
All I am saying is everytime I think of Ms.Durance's comments I think "Thomas Crown Affair" and then I start laughing. You all know what happened.

I can imagine how tough it must be for the actors to read where this story is going. After all we are struggling coming up with scenarios that fit all of the spoilers.
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