I think they're obviously focusing on the new and shiny-- and young, which precludes PM, unfortunately. He's never gotten any sort of attention from the show or the network, which is too bad, because he's good, and a lot of people love the Martian Manhunter. I am surprised they didn't mention EDLois is at the desk across from Clark, though. That seems kind of "iconic" for them to ignore.

I hope they find Clark lying in the snow somewhere. Too many people have traipsed through the FoS already.

He didn't mentioned Lana either....All the leading ladies are missing from it now that I think of it.

Lana is coming back for 5 episodes only, she'll be treated like a special guest star

I love how they've passed the Tess interaction to Oliver, even given them a mysterious connection. Because Green Arrow is Lex's nemesis in the comics!

Oh, wait.

That's Superman.

Simple. Tess will be the illegitimate daughter of Robert Queen. She's the genetic byproduct of Robert Queen's summer tryst with the maid working at the Queen estate. They're half siblings.*rolls eyes*

Still makes more sense than Not!Baby.

All joking aside, while I am happy Ollie is coming back, I do not love that he is already being linked to the Lex surrogate. This is the last season - IMO the stories needs to focus on Clark, and a lesser degree on Chloe and Lois. (Jimmy can fuck off.) Having the new character be focused on the other, only somewhat less new character while Clark gets insulted by Lois all the time does not bode well, but YMMV.(RepairmanBob takes a long drink.)

Hey, Kelly? Quick update. Doomsday is not a werewolf. He is not the Hulk, or Jack the Ripper. He is certainly not an EMT. He is fucking Doomsday! Why bother to use the name if they are going to change him that much? Bad monkeys! Bad, bad monkeys! No crack for you!Clark: CHLOE MY TINY BLOND!!!
DMT: NO!!! MY TINY BLOND!!!!
Chloe: So this is how it feels to be Lana.

So that's how Oliver will save her from the evil that is Lex. Hey, maybe then he'll put li'l sis to work blowing up some buildings full of Kryptonite.

Not only am I displeased with Tessiver because I just dislike Oliver of all people going on about how evil Lex is ("Reunion" kinda killed that dead for me), but because it takes yet another storyline from Clark. What exactly is the guy going to do all season? Conk Lois on the head if she almost sees him use his powers?

Maybe I'm being too pessimistic. Tess can interact with more than one person. The Clark/Tess (what are we calling that?) interaction could still be key. Right?

Eh, I think that goes without saying.

To me, this is consistant with SV. None of the iconic characters come out as they should... Chlois anyone?

SV is the show with antis: Clark is the anti-hero, Lex is the anti-villian, Chloe is the anti-love interest, Nois is the anti-journalist, so it makes perfect sense to have Doomsday as an anti-killer.

On that same vein--Tess might be the anti-seductress.

You know I was thinking about the save at the Arctic.

I don't think MM is part of the rescue, for 1 reason and 1 reason only. He is as strong, if not stronger then Clark, has the same powers as Clark. Has been in contact with Jor-El and possibly knows where the fortress is, why would he need any help in rescuing Clark Kent?

So I think it's just GA, AC, and BC

Now I'm left wondering why the Black Canary is joining them. I understand GA, he has the jet, money and is the leader. AC is like Neptune of the story and it's in the arctic so water/ice and is superstrong. But BC? First off her outfit is way too light for the arctic so she'll be in a parka and what's her purpose? To fight off some polar bears?

But I have to admit that the BC once being a DP employee makes a very interesting Fact.

We could learn the status of the DP from her and the need for Clark to take a position there. Maybe the JL wants to reveal themselves as non-terrorist but anytime they have reports that's pro-JL, the DP would discredit the paper thus the need for someone to be in there.

And what is Clark supposed to do? The job Lois mentioned was for an internship. Not much he could do from that position to effect what is puiblished other then sabotage of the presses.

Chloe was an intern and published 3 front page articles. Besides he could gain information on Tess and such. But I guess Clark's good for nothing then right? Can't do anything but listen to Lois that's what he should do right? Besides Clark also has his powers, he could affect the editing. Maybe publish an article that was never approved. You know, sneak into the printing press/ Editing office, put the Article in the front page, bypassing Tess and all that.

But Chloe was an uber-journalist. Be hard to get an article on the front page by the pressmen. Only really good power while "undercover" would be his super hearing. YMMV

The problem with that is that they are technically terrorists. They can't argue with that unless they lie. They can say that they're blowing up evil buildings, but it's still industrial terrorism, it's still dangerous, and it's still quite illegal. I can't see them going public with that kind of information and expecting people to rally behind their cause.

Because she's awesome? I agree that there doesn't seem to be a reason, but also, I think we have to take into account that they don't know what they'll be facing in the arctic. I would want as much back-up as possible.

Her DP/news connection is interesting and I think if Clark has to get into the DP a recommendation from her would probably help. Assuming that Tess still controls the DP and she does know something about Clark and Lex, I bet he would get in anyway, but having a legit resume (high school journalism, research assistant for one semester in college, and a personal recommendation from Dinah Lance) would help him get in undercover.

I seriously doubt Clark will get the internship job. The not-spoilers indicate he will be working with Lois. That means he'll either be her assistant or a reporter. I'm betting junior reporter.

It makes sense, but I'd hope they weren't throwing Black Canary into an episode just for the sake of it. If you're going to have her and Aquaman, we need something for them to fight.

And I'm going to need to see a sonic scream (or subsonic, as it were).

But for the life of me I can't see who they're going to fight? Unless there is suddenly kryptonite in the arctic?

Maybe she'll use her sonic scream to clear icebergs out of the way while Aqua searches the water and GA mans the ship.

Why am I imagining images of Popeye, Tweety Bird and Charlie the Tuna?

I have to wonder if the research assistant gig will be brought up for Clark's resume. He worked directly for Milton Fine, didn't he? And wasn't the "research" all about Lex/Luthorcorp. I don't think it even went very far before Clark found out MF was Brainiac. It's not like he can get a recommendation or a referral. The University probably can't validate his experience either.

This is not to say that I don't think Clark is capable of research and investigation. I believe we've been shown he is quite capable. (IMO, I think he relies a lot on Chloe because he wants to and to share the work, not because he is incompetent or a BDA.)
But I don't see how he could realistically use the RA gig as a valid point on his resume.

Hee! "Realistically"! What was I thinking? Of course they'll bring it up.

Although I don't believe that Clark is the least bit qualified for an internship or junior reporter job at the DP (Smallville Ledger, maybe, but not DP) I do think it will be shown that he is competent and capable. In addition to all the investigating we've seen him do, I think Clark's personal journal (the b-day gift from Lois) may be brought into play to show that he has writing talent. In the real world I know that it is not enough, but in the present DP, and with a perhaps curious/dodgy Tess, it may be what gets him in the door.

I don't see how writing Lana, Lana, Lana shows off his writing talent. :/

I could see that. I just hope they don't show up in their disguises. Especially, as was said above, Black Canary will be cold in hers! But also, they just don't need them. Clark doesn't run around with his on. I just hope they're appropriately attired. A minor thing, but it would so bug if they showed up in their JL gear. Is this only me? Probably. Ha!

:)

ETA:

Thinking about Clark again though and what his storyline will be. I know we've been told of Lois and him working together, but I'm waiting for some info on his actions in regards to Lex and Kara. I mean, his cousin is gone! Will Clark ever know what happened to her? And if he doesn't, if MM doesn't tell him something, then I just can't imagine Clark forgetting about her. I hope the writers have an explanation for that. And as for Lex, it's also difficult for me to imagine Clark ever being beyond this. Where's Lex? If he's not "dead," then he's somewhere in this world. Last we saw, he held the key to Clark. Then there's Tess who's his proxy, and if so, then Clark has to suspect Lex is pulling the strings. Somewhere. But where? That should be on Clark's mind 24/7. Along with Kara. I don't know what the show's going to do though. I agree above, it's nervous not knowing and thinking of what the show is capable of at times.

Is it implausible for them to be running around the arctic in their Justice League gear? Probably.

Do I demand they do it anyway?! Hell yeah!

But could we get better mask/eye makeup for the Black Canary?

Davis Bloome, we all know is a play since Dooms is in his name is an Anagram for Lab Vie: Dooms In his name he has Dooms, and Vies. Dooms means of course doomsday, Vie means contender basically a fighter who achieves to be superior. L-A-B is left over, Alb is a white robe like a clergyman, or Lab could mean Davis Bloome is a failed Prototype of Lex's 33.1 project, who knows.

Anyway it got me thinking what's the anagram for Tess Mercer?

Secrets Rem/Mer Mer is a french word for Sea.

Could Tess Mercer secretly be Lori Lemaris? Well the other word sorts of supports it...

If we go by Rem, Rem in Egyptian Mythology, means "To weep" and is a fish god, who fertilizes the land with its tears. He is the personification of Ra's tears.

however tears really had me thinking about Chloe for some reason.

What would be cool, if Tess is really a cloned Chloe, or at least has Chloe's DNA. Afterall they took her DNA in Freak and be interesting.

Also to add, someone on K-site mentioned that during the repeat in Gemini Thrusday the CW shared some more info about the new season:

-The premiere will be October 2nd, not September 18th as was originally printed.

-They spoiled Doomsday's appearance, but didn't mention anything about him having a romance with Chloe.

-They mentioned that Oliver was coming back, and they'd explore his past and his relationship with Lois.

Very interesting, csa, thanks for the post. I assume the name Tess Mercer is supposed to sound like Ms. Tesmacher, but it's interesting nonetheless.

I figured Oliver's return would mean the return of Lollie (and hence the changes to Doomsday), but I honestly don't mind it. I'm not wild about it either, but I'm okay with it at least.

Nope, I'm still thinking that this Tess is going to function a lot like Roswell's Tess Harding (Whose anagram is Tess Harding = Trash Design.) YMMV.

I'll be please when I seen evidence that I'm wrong.

Is this new news from the SW something I can find on youtube?

Honestly, if Oliver is going to be around I'd much rather see LOllie back on than see Lois with yet another man.

Plus, Oliver is about the only person I think Lois has been believeable with. And Durance and Hartley certainly have great chemistry.

Oh... I just realised. Does Oliver + Lois + Black Canary = new triangle?

I bet they will ship her off before anything more than a hint could happen. We haven't had any indication that the actress will be back.

I wouldn't put it past them to do a triangle with Black Canary not actually around. Lois could just give Oliver shit about dating her offscreen.

Please no! Triangles = character death on this show. I don't want to see my favorite comics super-heroine get dragged through the mud that way.

If anyone is interested, Starkville's House of El Podcast is updating this post live from the Comic-Con panel.

- The trailer will be making it to X-Box Live! Someone get this pronto!

- Metropolis in ruins from an epic battle? Sounds kind of amazing.

- Todd Slavkin hopes the show doesn't end for a "long, long time". What the fuck?

ETA:
Here's more from WizardUniverse.

- Clark gets beat up in Russia? This early in the season? We haven't heard anything about that...

- Green Arrow shoots Clark. Because he won't come back with them in Odyssey, maybe?

- Sam Witwer thinks Lex Luthor can't kill Superman; Sam Witwer is wrong.

- Possible crossover with Supernatural!? STFU. You leave the good shows alone, Peterson.

Other than Ollie having a lot of women in his life (Lollie?) and an increased focus on the JL, not a lot of new stuff from the House of El podcast. Hopefully, we will get a little more if someone is able to put up more details, and a look at that trailer. I really want to hear what the plan is for Tess.

PS3 seemed to put a lot of emphasis on Clark starting at the Daily Planet and the "double identities" theme. I hope PS3 has put some thought into this - pulling "a wizard did it" and sticking Clark in the DP just because it to cool (cough LOIS cough) would not IMO be a great way to start the year.If it finally gets Chloe together with Dean, it is a small price to pay.

Scry, mskingston - thanks for the links.

Sorry, I didn't realize Scry had already posted the link. Thanks, Scry. I hope fans get to see trailer soon too. It sounds like there's a lot there.

As for what they said about Michael. I agree. It upsets me that they seem to be going along without problem, even though his absence is (will be) a huge void.

Or Sam's a sentimental Clexer! (ETA: They've edited the site and are now attributing the quote to Swimmer.)


Lex prefers to go "groin to groin...."


I'm aching to know what TW thinks about this....


How will they explain Dean looking exactly like Jason?

Thanks for the link, Scry!

I actually think that might be kind of awesome. I'd love to see Chlark interacting with the Winchester boys.Seriously. Has Peterson let TW know about this "long, long time" deal? I bet Tom will have something to say about it.

Is he high? Please tell me he's high? Or making a bad joke?

Also this quote bugged the shit out of me:



Way to stick to a guy who's made this show better than you fucking idiots ever could have imagine, jerk. So, he's going to fail miserably in his other endeavours and then come crawling back to you shits? And like this show is going to be on forever and ever and ever for Michael to come back to?

Dear Michael, run far away and don't come back. You deserve better than crap like this.

Agreed. I believe this will be the first major test of the year for me (whether I keep watching or not). If they just throw him in there for no reason then I'll know they only care about glossing over stuff and they'll just keep lightswitching everything. Clark had better be there to keep an eye on Tess. That's the only thing that will make any sense, IMHO. But I've got a bad feeling it's going to be another lightswitch moment instead.

So Clark is working for the enemy? Knowingly or not, I wonder? And if knowingly, I hope it's because he has a plan.

Apparently, Peterson wants this show to continue until TW is 80, so who knows? But I agree with you that quote sounds very mean-spirited. I'm sure Michael will be successful in whatever he pursues. He's talented enough.

Heh! It's like he's the ex-boyfriend the writers desperately hope will come back. "He still loves me, right? He left some of his stuff here....if I pretend I don't care too much, maybe he'll come back...."

I just noticed there are differences! Starkville attributed the quote to Swimmer all along, WizardUniverse says SW said it. Not that it really matters, it just bothers me that anyone thinks that Lex Luthor couldn't kill Superman (the question of whether or not he would is another matter).

IIRC, they only have footage from the first two episodes, so this is likely from Plastique and the explosion that takes place in it.


I'd say this is Odyssey. He's with a guy named Nikolai, after all.


I'm not sure that's what they meant. I took it more to mean that when Michael is available, and not working on any other projects, they can approach him to come back. But so long as he's busy, they obviously can't. I don't think they expect Michael to be the one making overtures.

In the press room after the panel, I think it was Todd & Darren who talked about a Season 9, but they did acknowledge that Clark is a requirement for a show called Smallville. Don't quote me on that until I post the exact quote, though.

I also posted some new stuff on K-Site, including confirmation on when Allison is directing, and a DCU character coming up...

Exactly where I'm at, FreddyO. Is Clark at the Planet for a good reason, or did someone just think it was cool to have "Lois and Clark" working together? Is some attempt going to be made to explain how a college dropout with no relevant experience could get a job there, or is he just going to walk in off the street? And will some logical reason be put forth for Chloe not being there, or will they just lightswitch her out of reporting? I think how they handle this will tell me if I'm willing to watch the show at all.

Also, my daughter is thrilled about the Legion, but I'm less so. The more they throw random DC characters into the mix, the more I feel like they have no clue how to deal with Clark's journey and are stalling like crazy. I'd like to see more emphasis put on the actual SV characters and their growth, and less on random DC stuff. And I say that as someone who likes DC comics.



I'll have what they're drinking, please. Must be good stuff!

So Tess' story is going to be like one of those bad female empowerment movies where she learns to believe in herself amidst the strain of KT Tunstall's "Suddenly I See?"

The Legion...eh, I'm still iffy on this. I don't want another episode where Clark turns his back on herodom or is "forced" into Superman because of his future!self.

That was a dickish line about MR. No Season 9 you lunatics.

The Legion has potential. I'm wary about the influx of new, shiny characters to play with, but OTOH, I'd love to hear what the Legion has to tell Clark about his future. I expect romantic and non-romantic anvils to rain during this episode. What I'd really like to know is how they plan to manage talks about what the future holds for Supes when many things that he would have faced in the "future" once in The Suit, he faces now.



I hope that, instead of this, Clark obtains some sense of pride, (rather than seeing it as a burden) at being the inspiration for these individuals. Instead of "Oh no! I'm not sure I can live up to what is expected of me *mope*"... I want: "Wow. I must be doing/have done something right to make these kids into what they are today".

At this point, I'm just indifferent to the Legion spoilers because I don't know anything about that comics storyline. I am growing concerned that they're throwing way too many shiny things into the mix, and not enough focus on Clark's development. I'm still VERY concerned about him landing a DP job in the first episode of the season. I don't want to write it off before it airs, though.

I do wonder, however, if this Legion thing will tie into whether or not Clark will live forever?

Personally, I'm just hoping that the Legion appearance takes its cues from the cartoon and has Brainiac 5 be totally gay for Clark.

So I guess that means the devastation wasn't caused by the Gay Disco Ball. Apparently the catastrophe Lionel (and the show)touted for umpteen episodes has limited range. "Clark, you can't let Lex get his hands on the Veritas contraption. It will destroy everything in a one-acre radius." Sort of like a crop circle.

Oh, show and its payoffs.

Actually, I'm pretty excited about all the new shiny toys. Remember kiddies, shiny = goodness.

They're doing too much imo. It all might sound cool (or not) but this show has a way a dropping a good train of thought for something that's lame. I don't mind Clark at the Planet, if it's for a damn good reason. I don't mind Chloe not being at the Planet, if it's for a damn good reason. Don't drop the reason for something lame.


I take it the info from Comic Con is not spoilery because of the prominence of media?

" Yes, I said the same thing in the MR thread. They're flooding the show with all these DC comic characters to try and make it interesting. I do like the characters, but it's too much imo. How is their inclusion going to tie in with the main arch of Clark's development? I feel that this is going to be variation on the the "freak of the week" formula.


LOL! It was so blatant wasn't it.