I think it might be interesting but don't see it happening. They have a hard enough time making Lana look 17, much less 21, despite the actress being 21 herself.


One of the things we've wondered and snarked about is how Jor-El went from sounding like Tom Welling in the past (Relic) to sounding like TS in future episodes. Either he's actually Zod, or Kryptonians have to go through some kind of fancy diction school where they learn to speak in proper English voices.

Maybe Clark will come out of the cave hole with an English accent. They can hire TS full time to dub TW's lines... Ha!

I really hope they don't go that route. Not everyone who watches Smallville follows all of the various offshoots of the myth, and I don't want to have to research everything in order for the show to make sense. Not that I think it would help, given that the writers have a tough enough time with the primary thread they've chosen to follow.


ITA, reb. For three years, the "Chloe is/will be Lois" stuff has been running around - it's just got no appeal to me at all, especially since I like the character of Chloe herself. I don't want her to be essentially wiped out with a cheap gimmick. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind if Jimmy Olson turned up as a semi-regular character and in the right age bracket to be a love interest for Chloe. Because Jimmy could be normal, and Chloe deserves a nice, normal boyfriend.


I'd love it if her first scene was her court appearance at Lionel's trial. Think of the expression on the MB's face when she's called as a witness!

I'm hoping that the first ep of S4 starts by picking up where the last one left off, to explain Lex, Bo and Martha - then skips ahead the requisite three months, focuses on Clark for a bit, and then moves to the MB's trial for the final scenes of the episode. Chloe can have a nice dramatic moment at the end.

There are spoilers in here from the season finale for anybody who hasn’t seen it.

I’m new to this, but I’m so annoyed at how piss-poor the storylines have been going that I needed some therapeutic writing. Clark is just a whiny mess – teen angst my ass. Lana and Chloe, though easy on the eyes, serve no real purpose on the show and Ma and Pa Kent are not the guiding force a superman would need. Freak-of-the-week appearances make no sense and do nothing for the story but to add flash and special effects. It’s all so campy and laughable. Just about the only good writing is for Lex and Lionel but even that borders on absurdity at times. If you are going to ruin the Superman mythos, do it with style at least! Everything just feels so pieced together at the last minute. Well, just for my piece of mind and entertainment, I’m going to write next season’s story for them. Of course, this is all make believe, but it makes me feel better. Hold up a sec, I have to shroom up for this.

We’ll start with tying up the loose ends from the season cliffhanger. I hate loose ends so I’ll try to close them all first. Lex is drugged (not poisoned) and kidnapped by forces unknown. Chloe really is dead. Lana is still in Paris. Jonathan crawls back to the Kent farm to Martha and Lionel is still in jail- bald as Kojak. Clark is trapped in some birthing matrix getting edumacated on Krytonian lore.

Fast forward 1 year into the future to what I will now call: “Smallville: the College Years”. Lionel is set free as all the star witnesses have died or disappeared. Lex is still missing. Jonathan and Martha are grieved by the lost of Clark. Lana is still in Paris and Chloe’s still dead. However, as the summer is about to end, Clark returns to the Kent farm. The Kents are relieved but he’s changed. More mature, less whiny and full of secrets now. He’s still a good guy but seems a bit darker, like what he’s seen has left an indelible mark on him. He chooses to not tell the Kents what he’s been through and only tells them that he needs time and just wants to go back to being a regular guy. So he wants to go back to school and see his friends. The Kents tell him of Chloe’s death and he is devasted. He blames himself for not being there to prevent it. He learns of Lex’s disappearance and Lionel’s freedom and is further embittered by the Luthors.

Through the miracle of Smallville TV, Clark gets his high school diploma and heads off to college in Metropolis looking to forget everything and start a new life. Lana returns from Paris to also attend the same college. She’s different too. Less whiny (I hate whiners – remember that show, Party of Five? I use to call it Party of Whiners), more mature and dating someone who is still off traveling the world. Also attending said college are 2 other girls, Lois Lane and Diana. Jimmy Olsen is also a student and becomes Clark’s new Pete Ross (except he has a chance with the other girls) as well as his roommate. Clark’s other roommate is Kyle Raynor. Of course, Lionel is still interested in Clark and is keeping tabs on him. Clark also meets his guidance counselor, Martin Hunter who pretty much acts like Giles from Buffy.

Okay, this is where I shorten it up and just give you the gist of the story.

First, the love triangles. I love love triangles. So much so, I will make it a quadrangle. Lana is still dating her mystery man but still loves Clark. Lois likes Clark but she’s intrigued by this hero who’s been seen around the city stopping a few crimes. Diana (who’s really Wonder Woman) is here as an exchange student learning about human culture falls for Clark because she feels a kinship with him. Clark, who isn’t as big of a dork as he was last season, is smarter about his women this time and concentrates on his studies. He likes all 3 but can’t decide nor does he feel he has a right to given his secret. So, in 90210/Melrose summary style , Lana is the hot good girl (Kelly), Lois is the hot, aggressive gold digger (Valerie/Amanada), and Diana is the hot even-tempered nice but can be bad girl (new sterotype). They’re all hot, of course. And they all try to be friends but they can’t stand each other. Each likes a part of Clark/Superman but not all of him. That’s the dilemma. So the one that eventually can accept all of him will win him. And that person will be……Diana. She’s the only one who can relate to him. She has powers and secrets and she knows what it’s like to be different. The story arc with Diana is that she ran away from her island to learn about regular people and that Amazonians have been sent to retrieve her. Clark will have to fight really hot chicks throughout this story arc.

Kyle Raynor is, of course, the Green Lantern. He’s young and artsy (a little gothy) and not yet a Lantern. He’s a little timid at first and Clark treats him like a younger brother (yes, he’s the David Silver of the group). The thing that will happen with Kyle, is that Clark will be embroiled in a Green Lantern Corps story arc that will see Kyle earning the ring by the end of the season. Clark will have to face robotic Manhunters posing as humans sent to dispatch Kyle before he can earn the ring. Body-snatcher stuff for this story arc.

I won’t even talk about Jimmy Olsen because he’s just filler (the Steve Sanders of the crew).

So throughout all these 90210 sex with your friends shenanigans, Clark is battling evil forces that are out to get his friends. So where are his enemies? Well they come in 2 forms in this season: Lionel and Braniac. Yes, Braniac. It always bothered me how the writers did the freak-of-the-week thing so I will now cleanse that story device with some reasoning. It turns out that the dude in the cave is not really Jor-El but a fragment of the sentient super computer, Braniac. He is essentially the last relic of Kryton, programmed to rebuild a new Kryton on whatever planet he arrives on. Jor-El sent him with Clark’s ship. All this time, Braniac has been awake and using the Kryptonite to terraform Smallville as an experiment for the larger project, Earth. He’s been experimenting with the effects of Kryptonite on humans to develop a new Kryptonian race. Realizing that it was not fully effective without a pure Kryptonian subject, Braniac has been trying desperately to turn Clark to his agenda. He’s not really evil. He’s just a program trying to do what he was built for: preservation of Krypton. So, it was Braniac who educated Clark for the past year in hopes of turning him into the planet’s conqueror. Clark still thought it was his father but in the story arc will realize that his father was good and specifically targeted the Kents to raise him. It was Braniac all this time.

Lionel will also have his agenda. He’s kidnapped his own son in an attempt to transfer his brain into Lex’s body. Lex escapes but is so embittered with his father that he begins to resort to really evil tactics. The more he combats his father, the more he turns into him. He eventually kills Lionel by his own hand and becomes the Lex we all know and love.

And for more fun, we get a short visit from Lana’s boyfriend, one Bruce Wayne. A dark, broody player type (well if it isn’t Dylan McKay). He’s only in a few episodes to let Clark know that his way isn’t always the right way but that they are on the same team. He breaks up with Lana and leaves. Of course, this break-up is timed right when Clark thinks he will date Lois. Ah, love triangles.

Now, my favorite part. Martin Hunter, who is really the Martian Manhunter, knows about Clark ever since he’s hit the Earth. He arranges to be Clarks’ guidance counselor to, well, guide him. He fears that Clark will be a dictator if he is not properly raised. The Kents just weren’t cutting it. Heck, if you want to portray them as regular parents, that’s fine, but there’s no foil to their normalcy. Martin understands Clark and listens without prejudice. The Kents care about Clark but they don’t understand him and ultimately they are afraid of him. Just some dark flavor to mix it up a bit. Jim and Judy Walsh they ain’t.

Well, that’s the first season of Smallville: the College Years. Nevermind that it’s not in Smallville anymore. All I’m trying to say is that the show needs more innovative writing that can appeal to longtime DC fans. I like the writing style of Buffy and Angel but I also like the hissy-fit drama of teen-angst shows like the OC and 90210. Smallville needs to successfully merge these 2 genres to really get going. Otherwise, it’ll constantly be a will-they-won’t-they crap. Everyone knows that Lois and Clark get together, but if you are going to mangle the histories so much, why not just change them? Update the damn story already for our generation!

I guess it should be in the speculations thread but I'm not speculating any of this will happen. Oh well.

Friendly hint: you can't post threads like this. You might want to read the rules. This is a strictly-ruled, strictly moderated forum, which is why the content is usually so good. This thread is probably going to be locked.

I'm not telling you what to do at all; just going by past experience.

(sarcasm) The Clark/Lana/Chloe triangle was SOOOOO successful, let's turn it into a quadrangle (/sarcasm)

If they want to do a Clark/Lois/Diana triangle, with both Clark and Diana interested in Lois, then I'm in; otherwise, no thanks.

Lana, of course, can enter the order of the Holy Sisters of the Perpetual Pinkness, and be canonized as a Living Saint, and hey, maybe become the first female Pope (or second, if we count the woman who was pretending to be a man). Chloe, desperate to elude Lionel, gets a sex change operation, and change her name to Wally West. Then, while hiding out in Mexico, she drinks some kryptonite contaminated water, and well, you know the rest.

Meanwhile, Lex walks down an alley, all teary-eyed after his bloody awful poetry is mocked at a party, and is accosted by a beautiful, yet crazy, woman with a terrible british accent. He wakes up to find he's become a vampire, and has an overwhelming urge to hunt down Slayers. As fate would have it, Martha Kent has been hiding the fact that she gained super strength, as well as the urge to kill things, and beat up her sexual partner, about 2 years ago.

And Pete will still only get 3 lines. And maybe lose an eye.

We've got a Speculations thread. Shouldn't this be there?

This board is way different then other boards I've been on. Anyone know how to move this into the speculations thread? If not, I guess it'll just get locked down or something.

Omar has the super-Kryptonian power to fuse the threads together. Or maybe it's just a computer-thing. But, he can fuse them nonetheless.

Done and done.

Whoah. Easy on the all there, mate.

klulu, i'd be happy with that as well. So long as there's no missing two years and chloe has not been taken into custody by the Covenant or anything like that I'd be happy. Also, Chloe totally deserves a blurry good entrance for once in her life.

Is Clark going to be interested in Chloe, now disguised as Lois Lane, simply because her hair is dyed dark - like Lana's? Am I going to have to stock up on sporks?

I want to add to this statement. I think he will kill Lionel to protect Clark even though "the friendship is over" (*yawn*). I also think Clark will have a Lionel like epiphany meaning: he will realize that he was wrong about Lex still investigating him but it will be too late. The friendship will really be over by then. Oh, the tragedy! *faints Southern belle style*

Somewhere out there is a set of Smallville refrigerator magnets:

"This friendship is over"
"How could you betray me?"
"You lied to me!"
"My parents are dead"
"Ask Jeeves"
"We can't trust the Luthors"
"The cows won't feed themselves"
"I'm not like you!"

The writers probably use them when writing the scripts. Okay, now next week let's put them in THIS order.

And of course, "Yeah! Remmy Zero! Woooo!"

"Trust trust trust trust trust trust trust trust"

It's the goddamn hokey pokey of Smallville.

My specs on Seasons 4


Chloe: She does eventually become Lois. I think I really want this to happen because I truly believe she would know how to appreciate Clark's love, unlike a tiny, pink, faux-Parisian ex-cheerleader we all know.

I think she gets out of the house, and (maybe) disappears for a few years. Until Clark ends up in Metropilis. Where he meets Chlois. He remembers her, but she doesn't remember him. If they stick with the Reeves' movie version, Lois doesn't know Clark when he comes to Metropilis. So, I haven't figured out a way (other than a psychotic break [God, I hate that term] or electroshock therapy) to make Chlois forget Clark. But I want to see some Chlark. Or Loark. Or whatever. You know what I mean. I want to see Clark truly love Chloe, as CR's Superman loved Lois Lane.

Clark/Lex/Lana: So to facilitate the break (dare we say psychotic) between Clark and Lex, I speculate that Lana and Lex will have a more than platonic relationship. And I truly think we could have a great 4 or 5 episode arc of the "no, we shouldn't...we both love Clark. We can't hurt him like this."

Then, they finally both give in to their feelings. Because as discussed before, Lex loves Lana, in the "she's so simple and pink, and would never try to kill me, strand me on a desert island, and take my money" kind of way. She's innocent. And Lana definitely needs a more mature man to trust her, and tell her his thoughts and ideas, instead of luring her into a stinky barn loft over and over to tell her absolutely nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, I'm all over the Lana and Lex romantic scenario. And the writers have already set us up for it, several times. And this would cement the animosity between Clark and Lex. It is the oldest story in the book and it still works. Best friends who become enemies over a girl. It happened to Dawson and Pacey. (Forgive me.) Best of all, they can come together again and again, for the greater good of saving her life. Because we all know she needs to be saved once a week. And then retreat back into their animosity, until towards the end of the season, Lana graduates and realizes that she has the same problems with Lex as she had with Clark. She is too needy, and places a major amount of her self-worth on her boyfriend. With Lex, it will be even a larger mistake, because he is so capable of taking care of her every need, and fulfilling the "father-figure" role for her, as well as lover. She will realize that she has become too dependent on him and leave. Which will go a long way toward then healing the damage between Clark and Lex.

Friendships: I speculate that they will NEVER decide who is who's best friend. Is Chloe Clark's best friend? Is Pete Chloe's best friend? Is Lex Lana's best friend? "Best friend" is in my list of "Phrases to never use" along with "psychotic break," and "Champion."

Mama Kent: I speculate, or at least hope that she gets more to do. I love her, when the writers don't make her the verbal equivalent of a teletubby.

Papa Kent: Unfortunately, I think he dies. It will give Clark new dynamics of emotions and relationships to deal with. He'll want to mend fences with Lex, because he's an older brother/friend/father type, especially with Jor-El being an undead, demanding alien presence, and Pete being gone.

Lionel: Don't know. But I fear he has something to do with Lex's poisoning/drugging. He will get out of prison, get a cure, or at least a treatment long enough to aid Lex's transformation to the darkside.

Clark: We don't know what occurs in the Phantom Zone, except that he comes back with the ability to fly, and maybe other powers. Oh, and a green crystal (non-kryptonic) for some reason. Eventually, we realize that Jor-El has real plans for Clark to take over earth, perhaps by bringing females to the cave, implanting them with kryptonian DNA, and impregnating them, and then rebuilding a new Krypton on Earth.

My biggest question, though, has been: I thought that the sun gave the Kryptonians (Clark, Zod, the others) their powers. It seems that Jor-El has a lot of powers himself, non-solar related....I thought Kryptons were normal when they were on Krypton, perhaps though being more technologically advanced, obviously.

I just don't see how they can do Lexana. Lex is 23. He's going to want more from a relationship then long, lingering looks and some kisses. He would also never try to elicit sex from a 17 year old girl. (Or is she 18 now?) The only way I would buy a romantic relationship between the two is if she came back from Paris much more mature, and really wanting that type of sexual relationship. Because Pink!Virgin! Lana doesn't mix with Lex on a romantic level. It's absurd. She needs to have some cheap flings in Paris first.

I'd like for the Kents to get into some legal trouble. Real legal trouble that isn't 'solved' by someone conveniently dying or disappearing at the end of an episode.

An FBI agent disappeared while investigating them. Even if he wasn't doing so under the bureau's direct orders, someone's going to come checking around. Perhaps the Kents and Clark could get into a substantial disagreement about how to handle it. Martha and Bo might be willing to ask Lex to pull some strings, while Clark wouldn't want that, and not because he's still pouting about Lex but because Clark doesnt want to resort to pulling strings.

And that's about when I quit watching tv because I'll have no eyes because I'll have gouged them out.

But seriously...no, wait, I was serious. No, wait. Seriously, Queen Vee, if the writers can write that so that it brings me along, and if KK can learn to act well enough to sell it, I'd be so very impressed. I'd love to be that impressed.

As things stand, however, the only power in this picture that could possibly make the Lexana work for me is MR's charismatic acting. And that, though it generates heat like a thousand very sexy nuclear power plants, would not be enough. Even the 'Baum might have trouble making me believe in the Lexana when faced with the wee wooden marionette, and lines like "Your destiny lies beyond the Smallville city limits" or W-everTF he had to say to her in "Covenant."

In fairness to Clark, most of those times Lana showed up at the barn on her own initiative. She's got the tenacity of a weed. A little peepweed.


That's demanding quite a lot, from a group of writers that can't convince people that Clark is Superman.

Lexana would be all the wrong kinds of nasty and inappropriate, while still being a hokey, overused plot device. Such a poor combination.

Even though I'm finally behind the idea of a Lexana friendship, since Lex needs someone, anyone to be nice to him, I don't think there's anything that could make me get behind a Lexana romance. I'm tired of every single person on this show falling in love with Lana. It's just tiresome. Even if they made it all about Clark I couldn't take it.

Lex: Lana, I love you... please wear the flannel shirt again and tell me I'm like my father.
Lana: sigh Lex you said you were over Clark. And you said you weren't gay!

I doubt Lionel or Papa Kent will be killed off, because the actors have provided a lot of interesting chemistry and dynamics. If the story was only in print, or if it was a non-continuing story, it would make sense to kill them off. But with the Smallville package as it stands, I don't see those two characters being sacrificed.

If interesting chemistry and dynamics were the litmus for keeping characters on the show, there's no way Lana would be coming back from Paris.

Just out of curiosity, I looked up the age of consent in Kansas...it's 16. This is disheartening, unless you close your eyes to the possibility of Lexana and hope for Chlex instead (if only Chloe lives...*sigh*)

I so get this. What I actually don't get is why Lana isn't a basketcase because everyone is either in love with her, or wants to kill her. If I had that many near-death experiences, I'd want to move to Paris too. Or hire better writers. Whichever. In any case, I think the writers could do something new with "Lexana."



I don't think age is a factor here. Again, I think Lex wants the innocence. And I can so see this scenario.

Lex: Lana, your pink virginal innocence makes me realize that I must take this relationship more slowly than I ever have before. And I like that.
Lana: ***staring intently into Lex's eyes***
Lex: You seem to stare into my soul and really see me.
Lana: ***staring intently into Lex's eyes***
Lex: Okay, now you are just freaking me out. What, do I have a boogie?

Seriously, though, the writers have shown several times, especially in the finale, where Clark has seen Lex and Lana together, albeit very innocently, and he has reacted jealously. They left it open for Lex to visit Lana in Paris.
I think "Lexana" is do-able, no pun intended.

I don't think Lex is going to to to sex her up; but he will definitely romance her.

Lex: Lana, please don't think this is about sex. I've had that, and it has left me wanting...I want to romance you, to pay attention to you. We both need that..."



Not unlike freaks of the week and kryptonite being used at precisely the right moment to weaken Clark EVERY week, and God forgive me, Lana being stalked every OTHER week....

It's pretty obvious they CAN'T write romantic Lexana without descending into the barfy level of Clana. That hokey ass speech about purity? I felt like they lobotomized Lex for a few minutes there. It makes my favorite character repellent when they have him say stuff like that and he's going to say a lot of crap like that if they insist on romantic Lexana. It's just the new Clana wrapped up in slightly greyer paper. From what I heard about the S2 DVD, you can hear how one of the directors thinks KK and the Clana are the greatest things since sliced bread. TPTB just don't have ANY perspective and always go beyond what is needed. Look, when he was encouraging her to go to Paris, that was OK but they screwed it up with "that."

Anyway, I don't see why one character aka Lana should slightly elevated at the incredible cost of the second aka Lex. She simply just gets to mark another cut across her lipstick case while maintaining her "goodness" while he ends up looking skeezy and just a step away from being just another Lana stalker. It's such a degradation. What next? Jonathan throws himself at Lana's feet? Why not, he's due for a mid-life crisis. How about Ethan? How about the next mayor of SV? How about Lionel? It's tiresome.

The thing is that if they're going to have Lex and Lana interacting on more than a casual basis, they're going to have to have her acknowledge & be more crudely open about actually enjoying the perks that ruthlessness & power brings. The whole knight in shining armor and princess on a pedestal stuff is not the way to play it.

This is a great point, mobiusklein. Because I see Lex as such an honorable (yes, I do think this) person, I, personally don't feel that he could be degraded by such. I have such a sympathy for him. When he told Chloe, during the Veritas episode, that he wanted his Dad to love him, I wanted to cry. And when Dr. DropKick dropkicked him, after he admitted to his obsession and wrongdoing (trashing her office for Clark's blood), making him feel like such a creep, not only a thief, but a thief who was too weak to even maintain his lie...Yeegads! I feel so much for him. But, I, too, do not want him sacrificed at the burning stake of Lana. Maybe I feel this relationship could be her redemption as well. I am trying to think positively here. But, again, according to my own speculation, she'd eventually dropkick him, as well, and in her pompous way, make him feel he deserved to be DK'ed.

However, all of this doesn't mean that the writers won't explore those avenues....those dark and dirty avenues...bad writers! bad! bad!

Point blank....I don't see how Lex can go really evil without some major catalyst...and lost love (again) could be a major factor in that. I am going to be so pissed if they make Lex go evil for literally no reason. Granted, he's has such a sucky life...but so far he has handled it admirably. What will be the straw that breaks Lex's back? Before he Vader-fies his Anakin, I want to see him in a good healthy relationship, with a character I give a flip about. Which means they need to introduce someone in this next season, and spend some time developing that relationship. Because with his track record, it is highly unlikely that Lex will fall for someone quickly, without a lot of reservations and doubts.

There are tons of stuff already out there to make him go bad: The Kents, Clark Kent, his father, his half-brother Lucas, his mother killing his brother. If they hint at trying to pin her as the thing that breaks Lex, it gives her WAYYYYY too much importance and will make me completely stop watching the show no matter how many Shattered or Memories they show after that. The problem is a lot of people including me just DON'T give a flip about Lana.

Anyway, why her? She's asked him for stuff repeatedly as well aka the Talon, asking Lex to shove Adam out, etc. She's just nice to him because he's another father figure who makes her feel good and gives her stuff. I think she should try redeeming herself instead of weighing down other characters to continually prop her up. Lex doesn't need a woman to make him interesting while Lana almost perpetually needs a man to define her. Lex deserves a much better character to play off against.

I'm judging by what they've done in the past every single time to Lana. They'll come up with a GOOD idea like Lana should learn self-defense. A good idea but then they'd completely and utterly botch it up with the presentation. Whatever attractions Lexana could have had to someone like me aka finally show the dark, nasty side of Lana (while in her right mind) and have someone AWARE of it and acknowledge it in a twisted, nasty affair . . . well, the writers just won't do it that way and frankly, the actress isn't up to it. I'm also judging by the lazy way they have her take ART school in Paris instead of going to a horse camp or something that she canonically has a passion for like business.

The FotW and kryptonite are also hokey and overused, though not on as many shows, at least. Which actually is another reason Lexana shouldn't show up in S4. SV already has areas that aren't original - why add to the lack of originality by going with so much of the teen soap opera that's done on a bunch of other shows? I don't see how a major factor in The Rift can/should be some girl who's ultimately nobody, anyway. That would be such a letdown, given how much better than that the initial premise of the show was.

The strongest eps of the show - eps like Shattered, Memoria, Rosetta, Insurgence, Lineage - keep the FotW to a minimum and focus on the strengths of the show (forwarding the "journeys" of Clark and/or Lex, family relationships, nature vs. nurture, etc.). Coincidentally, those episodes are Lana-light. The writers on this show simply cannot write a teen soap and the future-Superman saga and do justice to both.

Lex is going into the next season dealing with significant issues that will affect and define him. To spend any part of S4 turning his journey into a moony-eyed romance novel would be pathetic. IMO, the Clana seriously harmed much of Clark's storyline, because so many of the defining moments that we should have seen him struggle with were pushed aside in favor of showing us his feelings for Lana. For the same thing to happen to Lex's storyline in S4 would be a huge mistake on the part of the PTB.

If Lana must be shoehorned into Lex's storyline next season, at least let it be only as a friend, with no romantic overtones at all.

If Lex must have lost love in order to go evil... why not Chloe ?? Chlex would be sooo much better than Lexana.

I wouldn't mind a Lexana _if_ Lex wasn't interested.

Everyone and their mutant cousin being obsessed with Lana got old real fast. Lana crushing on someone who just sees her as an innocent kid and isn't interested in anything beyond a "big brother" vibe could be quite good.

Particularly if it inspires her to grow up a little. A story arc of Lana trying to become interesting enough for Lex to like, but ending up enjoying being her own woman could be a very good thing. Not to mention, Lex is the one person that she couldn't get away with the "woe is me, my parents left me by throwing themselves under falling rocks rather than bear my pinkness" doesn't hold a lot of weight against all the stuff Lionel has done to Lex.

It would be a bold move by Smallville standards, but I'd like to have an entire season where no one is obsessed or in love with Lana. Clark can get her out of his system in his cave hole, the Sheriff can realize the coffee in the Talon wasn't that good after all, and all the FOTWs can move on and find other people to stalk. Have an entire season where Lana isn't defined by the people who lurrrve her or want in her tiny pants. No bug boys, no frat geezers, no lesbian stalkers, no biodaddy with weird wrong vibes, no "sister" nonsense, no BDA mooning over her, and definitely absolutely no bald billionaire making any more purehearted speeches unless it's Lionel and he's just tormenting her. It would be shocking!

Chloe on the other hand, could get a love interest, and not a one-episode FOTW who tries to kill her. But only if they have writers who can build good romantic arcs. The show's history on romances has been really bad, imo.

I agree totally.



I laughed out loud when I read this; it didn't even occur to me how dumb that was on their part. Although I do recollect the fleeting thought a while back, something like "When did she get interested in Art?" I think "Paris" is to make her inaccessible to Clark, to really accentuate the point that she is "really" leaving, really making a strong move to "find herself blah blah."



I don't think so. If--big, big If--the writers handle it well, I think some of the defining of Lex could occur in this situation. Not necessarily with Lana. But with someone. Especially since it would be nice to see a normal Lex before all goes to hell in a handbasket...one who does some great things without ulterior motive, without an agenda.

Maybe because he's one of my favorite characters, I want to see him find some emotion that is not deep, dark, mysterious, or painful. Heck, I want to hear him have a normal conversation that doesn't sound like he's quoting the philosopher of the week. Even with Dr. DK, it was all intrigue and pain and doubt.

Hence, I think "true love" denied, rejected, or taken away is what could truly (help) destroy the good in him because he has only has a semblance of it twice...with his mother, who killed his brother, and with Helen, who tried to kill him. Lex has never had love without it being twisted. Written well, it could be astonishingly good.

OooH!....What if Lex truly falls in love with Lana, finds his good happy place, and Clark inadvertently kills her....and that's why they became enemies? Fans would be happy.

I am not waving the green flag for Lexana (although I do speculate it will happen). A Lana-free season, heck, show, would be fine for me. Actually, that's not true. I want to see Lana defined, mature, adding to and helping Clark become who he is, in a positive light. Or she can be evil. But be something except in need of rescue.

I think down the road they are gonna change the show to Metropolis and follow Clark's adventures at the Daily Planet. =) And no more Pink!

That speech was so out of character to me that I swore that Lex was playing her; make her focus her attention on him and away from Clark. Or just saying those things to make her see what he’s realizing about Clark: you can’t count on him. Yes, he cares about Lana on some level, he did teach her how to fight which helped her only in that episode, but hey, you can lead a horse to water… But I can’t see how Lex would want any piece of Lana. And I don’t care if the writers try to convince us, I’m not buying it for one second. I can buy eye-ejaculation and I can buy that someone who looks like Clark can’t get any play in high school, but dammit, I won’ t believe in LexAna.



If I had my druthers, I would make the writers lose all their memories of Lana because if this drift/rift/break-up happens once and for all and it’s about her, I will shoot my television.

I've always envisioned the “final-final” to come about as they’re showing it: Lex continually aggravated by Clark’s lies and Clark taking the position that Lex is evil and like his father. But I thought it would have more teeth: like Lex killing someone (again) or Lex endangering the Kents or Clark’s friends somehow. I won't accept that the beginning of their rivalry will come about because of a pretty version of Meg Tilly.



Which to me has been the most interesting thing about this incarnation of Lex. He’s swimming against the tide to be a good, decent person and I think that’s why he gravitated to Clark: for that goodness. Clark was an anomaly in Lex’s eyes: someone who does something for nothing in return. And he saw Clark as his one salvation. Now to find out that Clark lies (not well), but lies like the rest of those in Lex’s life is the ultimate betrayal.



Add me to that list of people who don’t give a toss about Lana. Why she has SECOND BILLING is beyond me. Coming in, I thought the show was to be about Lex and Clark and their friendship. Silly me, I underestimated the power of the Pink. But she's not an important figure, no matter how they try to dress it up. She's the classic "girlfriend" someone who is the romantic interest, but doesn't really have anything to do in the scheme of things. Smallville would not have suffered if Lana was never part of the cast. It would probably not have as many male viewers, but the stories wouldn't suffer.



TPTB keep saying how important Lana will be in Clark’s future..HOW??!!! Her impact in his life would be that he will either be put off of women forever or he would think all women are as pathetically needy as Lana.



I don’t know what happened this season. I remember reading articles with Al and Miles stating that Season 3 of Smallville would deal less with the FoTW’s…I guess the writers didn’t get that memo. It has lessened some I think; with the above-mentioned episodes, plus the ones like “Velocity” and “Truth” where the freaks were Chloe or whatever the hell Velocity was about.



I would like to see how the writers will handle this in Season 4. This poisoning has to be the final straw. I can just see Lex recovering and thinking “Aww, to hell with this!! Screw EVERYBODY”. How many times is he going to be screwed around/nearly killed/deceived and drugged to finally go ballistic? And if this show does proceed past Season 5, what will a Season 5 Lex look like?


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I want him to find out that Clark knew he'd been drugged one before with alcohol and never told him. I'd like to see him be the angry one for a change.

But apparently you can't make it stomp. Enough.

What if the writers gave her an attitude in Paris, made her realize that she's not an artist but a reporter, and brought her back under the pseudonym Lois Lane?
(okay, highly improbable, but if it can happen to Chloe it can happen to Lana, right? and besides, this is Smallville).

Also, DarkEmerald: you cracked me up! we will never forget that horse :D

Well, Lana barged into Chloe's home--why not barge right into her family in a creepy, krypto-stalker, Tina Greer-ish way?

I don't completely hate this scenario, riverflame, but it depends for its effectiveness on two very, very unlikely events: 1. that KK actually gains the acting chops necessary to carry off the change to witty, world-weary, tough-as-nails Lois; and 2. that the show's writers could actually write such a character-transition.

No wait. I do completely hate the scenario. Sorry. I'm making a bad name for myself around trying to find good in the Lexana and otherwise preparing myself for the snore-or-squickfest I fear in S4. I'd love to see Lana become a more interesting character. But, like Gabe--three seconds here and there. Not Lois Lane. Ew. No.

Oh, I don't like the scenario either <g> I'm just saying, it sounds like the sort of thing TPTB might think up.

You're right about the KK acting part. I forgot about that, but then, I was just being really random with my speculation :)

Technically, the writers could make the character transition happen, just by sending Lana off to Paris and have her come back an entirely different person. It wouldn't work, really, but they could do it, bad as it is.

They could, but let's face it. Kristin is no Audrey Hepburn, Tom is no William Holden, and Michael, although equally fabulous in his own way, is no Humphrey Bogart. OTOH, Lana could use a little Givenchy in her wardrobe.

DarkEmerald, I feel your indecisive pain. Love Lana/Hate Lana.

Stomping Horses....hee!

I'd love to see them find something good to do to/for the Lana character. After all, if she's got to be there, she may as well be interesting. But a little goes a long way with Lana. If they'd ease back, let her have a smaller part, and let her be less perfect, she'd be much more tolerable.

For S4, I'd like to see something like this:

Lana returns to Kansas because she's discovering that life in Paris is tougher than she thought and she can't handle it. She feels like a failure. She's told that Chloe and Gabe are dead. She doesn't have the Talon any more, and she doesn't have Clark. She swallows her pride and stays in Metropolis with Aunt Nell. Maybe she takes a part-time job at something she's not good at, and actually has to struggle. And fail. And struggle some more.

When Lionel's trial occurs, Chloe shows up at it to testify. Lana realizes that again she wasn't trusted with a secret (that Chloe was alive), and goes into Thecreth and Lieth mode. But someone - anyone - makes her realize that the lie wasn't personal, to exclude her - it was valid and necessary to protect someone else. (I see Lex as the likeliest person to convince her of this, but I'd like it to come from Chloe herself.)

She actually begins to learn from all of this that the earth revolves around the sun, and that she is not said sun.

If Gabe isn't still around, then Chloe will need a friend. Maybe this time, Lana can actually rise to that sort of challenge and be there for her.

I'll confess that the reason I'm hoping for something like this is that I don't want the writers to resort to cheap tricks to make Lana grow up and be different. I want them to use what they've already created for themselves. Because they've actually given themselves a storyline that can accommodate it, if they'd just use it.

Besides, I'd like to see Aunt Nell. She knows Lionel and Lex, and she's no fan of Clark's in particular.

I'd love for Clark to be there and hear Lana bitching about Sekreth And Lieth, then when Lana bitches to him later about how Chloe didn't trust her with her Sekreth, Clark actually calls her on it. "Lana, Chloe said it's not about you, and it's not. Get over it." Lana got to have her big realization that she was missing out on life because "Clark keeps changing the rules", now I want Clark to have a realization that Lana isn't Little Miss Perfect Peep. I want everyone to realize it but especially Clark.

But my fear is that they'll have Lana's leaving Paris as a big sacrifice. "I left Paris because I thought you were dead! I gave up my dream because you didn't tell me the truth about not being dead, Chloe! And now I don't have the Talon and Clark smells like cave moss!" Then everyone will rush to apologize and reinstate her as the Pink Worshipped One.

Hee, Cyb! And it'll never dawn on her, the number of times she probably smelled like horse manure, herself.

I'd love if it got to be Clark who calls her on the whole Thecreth thing. But then she'd point out that he wasn't at the airport, and any remnants of manhood that he has left would shrivel and die altogether.

Another possible S4 storyline for Lana:

She comes home from Paris, having discovered that she's a mime-savant, and determined to build a relationship for herself with Lex. She rummages around one of her many stores of family memorabilia, discovers a picture of assorted Potters at the Luthor family picnic, learns that her mother did quite a bit of cheating during that separation from Lewis, and realizes Lionel is her real father. Terrified, Lana realizes that sometimes it's best to leave well enough alone, and vows never to complain about anything ever again.