I went to watch that promo, watched Little lex and Lionel...and just couldn't find the interest to watch the rest. *shrugs* ... just whatever SV. I figure if you could, you'd make everything in there be for Lana's sake, so...just meh.

Stupid, stupid, stupid is what I have to say to that promo. Why give away the big twist 3 weeks before the episode airs?! They should've just shown Lex threatening to kill Lionel instead of adding in the part where he pushes him out the window. That's just ridiculous. I'm glad that there was a trailer, so I give the CW credit for that, but this puts those DC's to shame where they show the climax of the episode all of the time. Awful job.

Dood, this is one of the things that keeps popping up in my mind. Then what would happen? Lionel shacks up at the farm too? I have a bad feeling about all of this.Now that would be a lot of fun to watch! Lionel would die several times over, just like Kenny. I hope Lex imagines stuffing him in a microwave. That would be hilarious.

I am 100% in favour of Lionel living at the farm, making Clark pancakes, milking the cows....it would be the most crack-tastic plot twist ever and would piss off poor Lex so much!

What I want to know is how do these idiots keep their damn jobs. The promotional people at the CW are incompetent. Between showing Lex pushing Lionel out the window in the trailer to giving away the damn climaxes in their directors cuts..It amazes me that these people still have jobs.

I think I would die. But it almost makes a twisted kind of sense. I mean, we all thought Lionel was going to die tonight; it was also hinted at that Clark might fly tonight. So if one thing was stricken from the episode... maybe the other was too, and it was in relation to the first.

So, was that a Boomtube at the end of Veritas? If so, can we expect Darkseid to make an appearance?

Of course, the most interesting thing to wonder about in all this is, What is Brainiac actually planning? While it's possible that he's being all Evil and bringing Darkseid to Earth, it would be pretty cool if he's actually brought Kara with him to battle and (hopefully) defeat Darkseid. He might not be all that fond of Clark or Kara, but he's a lot more likely to be loyal to two Kryptonians than Darkseid.

In the comic book " Superman and Batman ", the two find Kara on Apokolips who has been brainwashed by Darkseid. This marks the reapparence of Supergirl in the post Crisis DC comics. I do think that Brainiac is taking Kara to Apokolips through the boom tube and that he's going to come back with a Bad Kara in " Apocalypse " with a big fight between the two supercousins.

There has been a lot of questions in the recent Episode threads about the Veritas Society. It got me thinking about how the writers could retroactively explain much of the series. Please point out the holes and contradictions in my theory. I want to believe that the Smallville writers might just be able to dig themselves out of this hole their in.

Circa 1986: Satellite mogul Virgil Swann receives messages from the stars about a coming Traveler. He meets with trusted business partners and friends to decide what to do. Swann allies with the Queens, who want to form diplomatic ties with the Traveler. Lionel wants to control him. Edward Teague is just there. (I suspect he's Lionel's lawyer whose wife is the one connected to this and he ends up being her liaison.) The members were expecting something along the lines of a royal visitation: a large alien ship would come down and a representative of the Kryptonian culture would meet them, the pinnacles of Earth's culture.

October 1989: What do they get? A freakin' meteor shower which rips apart the destination city. Is it an act of war? In all the confusion, who knows where the Traveler is, or if he even came? They were likely expecting an adult. Lionel is worried about his son, and later getting a foothold in the town. If the Traveler is anywhere, he's in Smallville. Then the opportunity presents itself: a farmer wants to illegally adopt a child he found in the meteor shower, so Lionel uses him to take over Ross Creamed Corn. It doesn't even occur to Lionel that this very human-looking 3-year-old is the Traveler. Swann, unable to travel in his condition, waits for the only signs he knows, the Kryptonian language he knows. Literally 24/7 for 15 years, it's his highest priority. The Queens, who were merely pupils of Virgil Swann, are dead a day before the arrival. This fact is not lost on Swann, so he becomes a recluse, protecting himself from Lionel. Now, Lionel has one of the keys. He wants the other but that involves going after the equally rich and equally shrewd Virgil Swann. So he waits until he's weak. I imagine the Teagues are really the least concerned about meeting the Traveler. Genevieve has a long ancestral connection to the stones of knowledge and just drags Edward around on her quest.

2001-2003: Lionel finally gets his foothold in Smallville: Lex runs Plant #3. Before long, he's investigating suspicions. Clark is one of them, which explains his deal with Chloe.

2003-2005: When Lionel suspects Swann has found the Traveler, he usually his excitement against him; Swann becomes more careless, and Lionel is able to poison him. He's quadriplegic; his body is weak anyway; no one will suspect anything. By now, the Veritas Society in open combat. Lex, corrupted by Lionel, is also investigating Clark, but for reasons that he only knows subconsciously. Jason, royally screwed up by his mother, and manipulated into a relationship with Lana (whose families are in a 4-century blood feud), kills Bridgette Crosby, who was interfering on the Teagues' turf: the stones. Virgil Swann, getting weaker every day, tutors his only daughter, Patricia, whom I suspect he had been an absentee father to. What better way to repair their relationship? Lionel is royally pissed now: Virgil's dead but his locket is nowhere to be found. Not on his body; neither on Crosby's. Figuring the Teagues stole it from Bridgette, he's their next target, ignoring little Patty, much like he does Lex. Genevieve is taken care of for Lionel by Isobel; Lex even cleans up after her. Jason is killed by meteors and probably still buried under the Kent house. Lionel is spotfree. He's free to go after Edward, the weak member of the group. He can probably pull it off from inside jail. But then he's healed. He may or may not know that the Traveler was the one who healed him. Finally, he holds all the cards (only the second locket unaccounted for), and he's been given a new outlook on life. But his world is too powerful, EvilBlackK!Lex breaks the flimsy barrier of his goodness, and he's free to be the MB again. Probably starts up the search for the locket, but Patty is as shrewd as her father. It's going to take work.

2005-2007: But again, the Traveler interferes. Jor-El takes Lionel as his emissary. He finally understand everything, and though he still wants to control the Traveler, it's not going to be as easy as having a congressman in your pocket. It requires a lot of finesse and underhandedness. Truthfully, he's humbled by the power of the Traveler. He knows he can't completely control him, but if he's Clark's only ally, it's as close as he's going to get. In a weird way, he does care about Clark, but it's not enough.

2008: When Patty Swann returns, it threatens his monopoly. He doesn't want her dead; he's beyond that, but he's needs to outsmart her to take her out of the game. He wasn't counting on Clark's inner circle to mess up his plans. Now, the Traveler isn't on his side. He's weak. And Lex has inherited his game. Patricia is dead by Lex's hand. Lex holds one locket and key; Lionel the other. He wasn't wearing it all this time, but when Veritas was brought to the forefront, it wasn't safe anywhere but around his neck. Lionel now faces not only open warfare with his own son, but his Kryptonian connection is warning him of a coming catastrophe that brings him to his knees. His well-meaning treachery has dug him his own grave: Clark and his inner circle are against him. He's a Cassandra, cursed not by the gods, but by his own illusions of godhood.

Standing ovation, Creedog

Now if only you could send it to TPTB and tell them "I had to work real hard, but here's what your damn show is about."

Wow, well done CreepdogV. I'm totally impressed.

Excellent, CreedogV! You've made sense of the impossible.

CreedogV, well done. Personally I think the phone call on the day of the meteor shower was to Edward Teague I don't think he ever trusted Genvieve.

CreedogV well done ! You deserve a prize!

Buen trabajo! CreedogV...They should hire you as the continuity writer this show would maybe makes sense with one of those.

Kara's Bracelet Theory: It IS more than just a bracelet

Rationale (screencaps courtesy of DTS):
- In addition to the interview (which seemed like a non-sequitor at the time) I think they've made an unusually bigger deal about her bracelet.
- It's either implied or directly stated that Kara got her bracelet from Lara Lara's bracelet looks the same
- It's the only part of Krypton that Kara kept when on top of the well and she later states it is the only thing she has left from her past (Fracture)
- Lara said she knew JorEL was working on a plan (Blue) -- my speculation is that perhaps the plan involved the bracelet somehow and he didn't know she gave it to Kara
- The show loves to have inanimate Kryptonian plot contrivances (octagonal key, 3 stones, DaxUr's shield, Kara's crystal), the bracelet could be more than a bracelet
- It served as a plot device in Hero
- It's specifically discussed again in Traveler when Clark returns it -- it just keeps turning up like a bad penny

and, most importantly,
- Brainiac specifically looks at Kara's bracelet when he says I need you specific screen moment of the bracelet in Veritas


SO -- why did LV say it was the source of her power, why is it turning up all the time, why does Brainiac look at Kara's bracelet when he says he needs her.

My speculation is that JorEl put some SCIENCE! into that bracelet, Lara didn't know but Brainiac did. In terms of power it's not her abilities it's her special importance to the mythology in the SV universe. When Brainiac realized Kara has the bracelet, he realizes he can do something. Probably needs House of El DNA just like the Phantom Key. While there are many options, time reversal seems like one of them. What if Apocalypse is NOT about Earth's Apocalypse? What if it's Krypton's Apocalypse and the story is a Brainiac/Kara story to prevent the first Kryptonian Apocalypse and Zod gets to win this time. Somehow JorEl SCIENCE!s (yes, I've now made SCIENCE! a verb) Clark into the Boom Tube to stop them or somehow the process cannot be complete without it being triggered on Krypton and a portal opened on earth. Ooohhh. What if they don't prevent the Kryptonian Apocalypse but go back in time to open a portal to earth and then send baddies thru and Clark has to stand at the gateway and beat them back?

IDK ... I'm stretching but I think the bracelet is a SCIENCE! device.

Does anyone know where the last 12 seconds came from ... where did it air... in this Descent promo on Youtube

Thx to marrissa at Sweet for link tipoff

Great theory SueB.

At the moment I mostly think it is just a braclet which i.d-ed her as being an El to Brianiac but I'm more than willing to be proven wrong esp after all the screen time the bloody thing has had.

Ooh! I like that.

Ahh! It exists! The last bit came from the image campaign last year. There were rumors of footage with MR walking around and playing with fire, but if I remember correctly, they never aired it, and only one person ever saw it (somehow). I'm so glad we're finally seeing it, and that they saved it for Descent.

I'm surprised that the CW is promoting Lex's descent into evil so well. It doesn't involve romantic angst or teen drama at all. I also love that amongst all of the evil images in Lex's eye (nuclear explosions, people suffering, riots), Clark appears at the very end. How fitting. :)

2 things. I thought it was Lionel who hired a cleaning crew to clean up Mrs. Teague's blood. Lex told Lana he will cover it up for her but when he got to Lana's appartment Lionel had already taken care of it.

And I thought the day that Lionel found out for certain was in Transference. I don't recall any memory loss. He remembered everything while inside Clark's body, and the same for Clark inside his.

I always thought the same thing, but I don't think the show has ever clearly stated which Luthor actually did it. The note Lana receives with the newspaper at the end of Arrival is simply signed "L". I think it's been left purposefully ambiguous, possibly because at the time they didn't want to commit one way or the other and it's just been forgotten about now. But personally, I've always thought it was Lionel, too.


Lionel says at the end of Transference that he doesn't remember what happened, and his dialogue with Clark at the end of Mercy points to Commencement as the point at which Lionel found out about Clark.

Flaming!Michael is adorable!


Indeed it is!

I think there's a new "green" CW promo out advertising "Descent" but I can't get it to play for me. *kicks stupid FlashAdobe* But it should be here. I have seen screencaps (thanks to ClarksCherry) and they are pleasingly Clexy.

CreedogV, I am amazed. That was fantastic. That all does make sense. I do think Lionel's foothold in Smallville began with the purchase of the creamed corn factory, though, not when Lex began running the plant.

As for Lionel not even thinking that Clark was the traveler... Hm. It makes sense with the fanwank that they were expecting some sort of adult, emmissary person. However, Virgil Swann knew that the Traveler would be a child (as per Jor-El's message), and I don't see why he wouldn't have shared this with the group. They were debating whether or not the Traveler would be a threat and need to be controlled, and knowing he was a child would sway that argument.

Hmm.... Interesting theory. They did seem to close up on that bracelet for far too long, and I don't think Brainiac would need to have seen it to ID Kara. He didn't need it to ID Kal-El.

Me too.

Thanks, Jack. That means Lionel actually was involved in disposing of Genevieve's body.


I looked up the message Swann intercepted from Jor-El:


Modifications and Addendums to my theory:
Swann received the transmission in 1989, months before the meteor shower. He formed the Veritas Society. Lionel went to Smallville, expecting not a royal ceremony as I first proposed, but a ship that would come to Earth bearing a child. In his mind, Lex was going to get a very special little brother. Why didn't he recognize Clark as an alien at first? Earth might be under attack because the "aliens" double-crossed him and Veritas. His son is in danger. The kid in the Kents' truck doesn't look like an alien and could just have easily been another orphaned child. Only later when, things have settled down--no more meteor shower "attacks"; Lex stable but still bald; his foothold on Smallville gained--Lionel gets to work. He puts out feelers for the Traveler. Remember, the Veritas Society is now at a loss. The Swann-allied Queens are dead, leaving only the power-hungry Lionel and the Teagues, who are really only in the Society to get closer to the stones. Lionel and the Teagues might have just written Swann off as a kook. Lionel now has a "handicapped" son and no special second son. Sounds like he's about ready to talk poor Lillian into a more worthy heir.

Also, it's an interesting symmetry during the Swann/Lionel confrontation in "Legacy." Lionel by now has started to poison Swann under the guise of bringing the Veritas Society back into action. Both Swann and Lionel are dying, Swann of poison (on top of general decline from his condition), Lionel of incurable liver cancer. The Teagues have given up. The Queens, again, dead. Veritas is dying. Just another reason for Virgil to make Patricia his protege.

An interesting aside, but in re-watching Veritas, Robert Queen makes mention that "long before" their group formed, men "died protecting the secret of Veritas" and that the ancestors of the Teagues have been "sacrificing themselves to protect it for centuries" - a nice call back to Gerturde and Isobel. So while Dr. Swann was the one who formed a group called "Veritas", it appears the legend of the Traveller, or Numan, has been known and taken seriously for a very long time. It seems that it must have been the messages Swann intercepted and decoded that sprung him into action to create Veritas and start actual preparations.

I only saw the 30-second version of the trailer that aired after veritas on CWTV.com, Durg. haven't seen any new green ones


Jc over at SVFan caught a very short lex one:

http://svfan.com/content/view/882/28/

Pretty lame if you ask me, but eh...it does well at showcasing what a minuscule amount of brain power exists in the CW promotions department.

I got the feeling, from what was said in Traveler that Lex's recovered memories were a side effect of the fact Chloe healed him. But really, you can probably take it anyway you like.

However, there doesn't seem to be any indication that Lex knows Clark was in his memories. If he did I imagine he'd be wicked pissed off.

Hi, I'm new here (note the "New Here" smell), and I've got some of my own speculation/theory that I'd like to throw out.

Part I: Veritas and Lionel

Lionel wanted to corner the market on The Traveler and use "it" for his own means. Thus, he had the Queens killed off. Knowing that Smallville was the "landing place," he went under the guise of buying the Ross creamed corn factory so he'd have a reason to be in the area when The Traveler arrived.

There was a reason he took Lex along, too. Not just for show, but to play an important part. Considering how he got whenever he thought Lex was snooping into his briefcase, and how he never seemed entirely thrilled with a sickly, weak-willed child for an heir, I can't see why he'd take Lex along on such an important trip unless there was a reason he had to be there. It should be noted that all the Veritas members had children the same age as Lex; could it be possible that part of the "prophecy" of The Traveler's arrival including the need for a child to be present? As some kind of sacrificial lamb? Given Lionel's dissatisfaction with his son, I can see him offering him up in a heartbeat in exchange for something better (a child destined to "rule them with strength"). Also, if they had foreknowledge of the Naman/Segeeth story, they knew Naman was supposed to have a "brother" or counterpart. What if they had to supply that counterpart? That said...then Lionel planned from the start to have Lex take on the role of Segeeth, which would tie him to Naman/The Traveler on a blood level (father of Segeeth).

Of course, he didn't expect the meteors or the mass destruction. He was probably expecting some pomp and circumstance but instead got Hiroshima: The Day After. The Kents got to the ship before he did. He suspected something was up when he remarked on the thing under the tarp in the back of the truck when the Kents gave him and Lex the lift into town. Maybe he even put two and two together when he saw the little boy in Martha's arms (naked -- why, when the adult Kents were dressed?) and how he touched Lex (perhaps touch-bonding was something Veritas considered; imprinting is not uncommon in nature -- even Anne McCaffery uses it when her dragons and riders "Impress" on one another).

This would also explain why Lionel was so quick to help the Kents with their foundling's adoption papers. Since the Rosses had ALREADY signed the papers (just before the meteor strike, Lionel and the Rosses were closing the deal), there was no need for Lionel to blackmail Jonathan into convincing the Rosses to sell. (And besides -- after the meteors flattened their crops, you'd think they'd sell just to recoup from the financial blow.) Lionel knew the Kents had The Traveler. He let them keep him, too, as a means of hiding him from the remaining Veritas members. He had his "ancestral home" moved from Scotland and rebuilt in Smallville, even if he never set foot inside (according to Lex -- so why did he do it?). Meanwhile, he bought up more Smallville property (including land that, 12 years later, was being prepped for "another" housing development, and shortly thereafter the corporate park that was breaking ground over the Kawatche caves). Lionel wanted to keep his toes in the Smallville pool because it was his way of keeping his eyes on the prize -- a prize he believed was already his. He also wanted to take the opportunity to study the meteors and their properties (hence, Level 3 of the plant, where he had the experimental corn field Earl Jenkins mentioned in "Jitters").

Now, please remember that Lionel sent Lex to Smallville (12 years later) under the premise of managing Plant No. 3 (aka "The Crap Factory"). Lex was none too thrilled, and called it his penance for his rebellious teen years. Lionel, otoh, was moving this valuable chess piece into play. It was time to have Segeeth reconnect with Naman. Lionel HAD to know that eventually Lex would run into Clark. Just not quite so literally. But it IS a small town. And if they were bonded/imprinted/otherwise connected in some alien way, they would eventually be drawn together.

And boy, were they ever. :)

With what we know now, Lionel has been the orchestrator of this symphony since Day 1. I do not for a second think it was a coincidence that he was going to build on the Kawatche caves. In fact, I think Joseph Willowbrook was already involved in Veritas on some level -- most likely through Swann, with whom he shared a vast knowledge of languages. It is conceivable that Lionel knew about the caves and was trying to get control over them. He didn't count on Lex to thwart him on that, which is probably when he started to realize he was losing his grip on the Segeeth/Naman dynamic. Lex and Clark were, back then, working together. Eventually, Lionel had to take measures to bring Lex back under his reign and thus regain control of Clark.

One wonders if Lionel shared the speculation that NAMAN was the Darkness in the balance of Light and Dark that he and Segeeth represented. Perhaps he thought that's why Lex would be a good Segeeth -- the Light -- because he was weak (not strong) and could serve as the perfect counterpart to a creature that was supposedly all-powerful. Unfortunately, by his own actions he drove Lex to the Darkness. Yes, they are Naman and Segeeth; yes, they will be the balance of Good and Evil, Light and Dark...but not as Lionel initially hoped. Lionel, I'd like to introduce you to Karma.

Suffice to say, Lionel's deeds are not going unpunished. This is a prime example of how everything we do affects everyone -- the ripples in the pond after the stone has been dropped into the water. Lionel loves the game of chess but in thinking ahead about his available moves, he didn't consider ALL the possibilities. Like, the possibility that he'd LOSE. That's because he let his self-made pride and belief that "Luthors never lose" get the better of him. To use another well-known phrase: he made his bed, now he's going to have to lie in it.

I am, however, unconvinced that Lionel is the one who dies in "Descent." How can he die and yet John Glover is signed to return for S8? Also, I am not so sure the photo of Lex looking down at a tarp-covered body means he's looking at Lionel's body. It didn't seem large enough to be an adult male. Also, in the previews Lionel was dressed in dark clothes. The tarp is a bit see-through and I didn't see dark clothing (or a mass of hair around the head area...if there was a head LEFT after a supposed fall from a great height). There's also the question someone brought up about why there weren't tons of media coverage at the grave where Clark and Lex are standing in the other pictures. I wondered why the grave would be sequestered near a bunch of simple, otherwise non-descript plots. That could be Lex's way of denying his father a grand memorial and marker (as Lillian received; Lex's grave is equally grandiose, and facing his mother's). For all we know, that's the Pauper's Cemetery, and those graves are the final resting places for folks who came from Suicide Slums. A fitting end to Lionel, who killed his own parents as a stepping stone out of that particular existence. Perhaps this means Lex will recover that memory, as well (why he was sent to Belle Reve and received shock treatments to erase his knowledge of Lionel's crimes...but then, he might also remember that Clark LEFT HIM THERE). It remains to be seen.

Well, I see that the Stride comic is done and I read it and didn't get it. It ends with Lex trying to use that guy to find out how he dies? What did I expect, IDK...I just thought it was pathetically bad.

What annoyed me was that the kid kept seeing PAST ways that Lex could have died. That's not how his power worked. He saw people's death...what was going to happen to them. Only Clark had been able to change his visions, but then he would see the next way that they were going to die, not all the ways that Clark stopped them from dying.

Yeah, he told Lex that he should already be dead...like Lex wouldn't know that already!

BTW...How does touching Clark stop him seeing all the pain and suffering Lex has gone through?

MayPhoenix Welcome and I already love you a bit because of the Anne McCaffery reference.

I'd forgotten that Lionel had already signed the papers with the Ross Brothers and I suspect so did the writers. I guess the paperwork might have gotten destroyed and they were trying to back out of the deal. Or your way works too.



The contract does not require them to use him if they do not wish. John Schneider was also still under contract when Bo died.

I'll admit, I looked at those photos and had the same questions, but the promo monkeys have given away the big secrets before and there is the matter of John Glover being scheduled to star in a play during the same time Smallville is taping for the rest of the year.

It would be fitting for Lex to bury his father next to the parents HE murdered. Very poetic.

The violent deaths really bothered him to see and with Clark, he didn't get a death at all, just a red cape expanding onward toward infintatum.

Probably like begging someone to sing a different song so that Achy Breaky Heart stops ringing in your ears.

MayPhoenix, welcome, and I would like to inform you that we share a brain. ; ) You managed to articulate it in a much better way than I have been able to do.

Hm... Fascinating theory. I don't know that Lionel, who is all about power, would understand the dark/light balance. I think he would have ignored that part, and focused solely on the part where Naman and Segeeth would be powerful forces. I think that's one of the inherent differences in Lex and Lionel: Lionel doesn't care about morality, he just cares about power; Lex will jump through mental hula hoops to make himself the good guy.

ITA with all of this. I speculated in the Lionel thread (I think) that he knew about and was monitoring Clark all along, but decided to keep him hidden from Veritas, and you've found so much more evidence for this. I think the interesting thing about him building the mansion in Smallville is that Lionel is essentially rewriting his past (Scottish nobility) on the same ground that he's working out his future (ground zero of the Traveler's arrival). He's building his manufactured past on the site of his manipulated future. It's fascinating.

Knowing the cave legends about Naman and Segeeth, and knowing that Lionel knew about the traveler and maybe knew about the legends, I think it's more than possible that he pushed Lex into a situation wherein he and Clark would become friends, and then tried to rip them apart to make the prophecy come true. I hadn't thought about the alien imprinting/bonding thing as something Lionel might have considered, but it's true, he was there, saw it, and could have known its signifigance.

Oh, wow, that's brilliant.

That opens up a lot of interesting possibilities. They've hinted at it before, but I really wonder exactly how these came to be. I wonder if they'll be addressed at all. Hm.

So somewhere along the way I signed up to receive some sort of CW e-mail newsletter with "spoilers" and "inside information." Here's the stupid thing that was in this week's e-mail about Smallville:

"You want Smallville spoilers, too? Fine. When new episodes return on Thursday, April 17 at 8/7c -- oh this is just too good -- you'll discover that mild-mannered Clark Kent is actually an alien from another planet! Oh boy, we've already said way too much! "

Really? Are you kidding me?

Maybe it "April Fool's!"

Thanks for ruining the show for me! *runs away crying*

Nah joking.

I certainly hope so because otherwise that's just really lame, even for the CW. There was another thing that said: Do you want to know who wins America's Next Top Model? Her picture is on this page!

I'm sure that if you clicked on the page it would be a picture of all of the girls from this cycle. So maybe it was their lame attempt at humor.

Two questions:

1) Does anyone know the details of the new Supergirl mobisodes and

2) Has anyone else visited the "character songs" on Sprint? It's a hoot. I have no idea who picked these songs but I note the following:
Chloe has "Respect"
Clark has "Stand"
Jimmy has "Falling Down"
Lana has "Maneater"
Lois has "Paramour"
Look at the whole list for each character. Someone selecting them has a SV "world view" I think. It's kind of funny.

Is this "Stand" as in the R.E.M. song or is there more than one song by this name?

Also, can you see the character songs on the web site without having a Sprint phone?

This version of Stand is by Rascal Flats, and you do not need to have a Sprint phone. Go to the Sprint add on the CWTV page, click Character Playlists to see the song and here a snippet.

I forgot to mention the first song is "Muse" for Lana. It may be some of these songs are put in every week and I'm just noticing it.

Thanks SueB! I also wonder who comes up with these songs?

Hee.

It's interesting Lois has Paramour. I mean Paramour means
A lover, especially one in an adulterous relationship.

Basically the "Other Woman" the Mistress, the woman the man cheats with. Basically the home wrecker.

It's spelled "Paramore", and that's the artist. I know the band pretty well. The song is "Misery Business". Lois' other two songs are "The Walls" and "Wolf Like Me". I think it's also important to pay attention to the lyrics of everyone's songs.

Then what songs do Respect and Stand sing?

ETA: Ok, Sue says Stand is by Rascal Flatts, so what is Respect? A band or a song?

And what song does Lex have?

"Respect" is the famous Aretha Franklin song ("R-E-S-P-E-C-T, find out what it means to me!")

And I call LAWLZ at Lex's songs. Timbaland and Kanye West? HAHA. I think they're both great artists, but Lex? Waaaay above that. Something classical (like in Progeny when he flips through the radio, passes all of the crappy tween-rock, and finally lands on something sophisticated). Lex's songs are "The Way I Are", "Stronger", and "Body Baby".

I also *love* Amy Winehouse's "He Can Only Hold Her", but I'm not sure it fits Chloe. I guess it could be about Chlarkimmy (describing how Jimmy feels about the way Chloe feels about Clark). Here's the lyrics:

OH! That RESPECT! Ta!

Amy Winehouse? *shrugs* I really don't get the fuss about her music.



Oh lordy, this is about as accurate and entertaining as that - pick the wardobe, and... something else that had the fave songs, bands, books and whatever else picked for the female cast.

Why do I have a feeling BlackPanda will have a field day with James Morrison's "Under the Influence" being on Clark's list?