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The Kent Farm has been a virtual hotel to many, many people, and there's no reason it should be enshrined to the memory of Lana at this late date. It's a bit amusing, the lengths to which SV goes to avoid having to build extra sets.



Yes, except--well, I would've thought the same about LANA staying there after her escape from death and divorce from Lex. But so far, nothing's happened...on one hand, I'm beyond glad that Lex has apparently washed his hands of Lana and considers it not worth his time to spend any more attention and energy on her. On the other, I expected him to go for some sort of revenge.

TBH, I think we're going to find out he has been up to something come the end of the season, like taking over Isis, for eg.

Ooh, thanks for the link for the better quality trailer. For a second I thought Lionel was sitting on a couch, but it does look like he's kneeling in front of Chloe. And pleading with her because Clark won't listen to him? Interesting.

I can also make out a very quick shot of Clark appearing to take his first stab at flight. Hee, cute!

I can't help but giggle that not only does it look like Lionel is talking to the Chloevage but in the next shot, it looks like he wants to hold them in his hands. :lol

Hah, I hadn't noticed that, but you're right. I keep trying to look at the color of Chloe's blouse, but I end up focusing on the look of anger as she looks down at Lionel.

I wish I could slow it down to take a better look, but does it look to anyone else like Brainiac's holding something when he flies away?

Yeah, I noticed that, too. I do think the trailer shows a couple of those events in reverse order though. I think Clark will watch Brainiac fly away first, and then comes the discussion with Kara about flying. It looks like Clark takes a nervous breath before he leaps out of the loft.

Although the idea of Chlark living together would make me freakishly happy, I'm not sure I can see tptb doing that because of a couple things here: Considering their history and the unresolved tension in such a close proximity if too many earthquakes happen the neighbors will get suspicious. Second- Chimmy. If Chimmy get back together and Chloe is willing to give it another shot I highly doubt she'd stay w Clark, bc what in the heck would Jimmy think? Also, if Clark's concerned about Chloe and needing keep her close for protection purposes (and I would see that as a valid reason for letting her stay at the farm), wouldn't he also extend the same invitation to Lois...and then we'd have a Three's Company scenario...akward! LOL...but then again I'm also questioning, since the DP set is as identifiable to Chloe as the farm is to Clark...where else/ or who else would she be with during these eps? I doubt Lex will let her walk freely into the Planet to visit Lois...she's probably going to be really angry and depressed.

Well, if Jimmy doesn't trust her, then he's got issues between them that are more deep-seated than Chloe's inability to share her secrets with him - which some have been saying for ages (they might use Chloe not working at the DP, and being off somewhere with Clark, and out from under Jimmy's thumb and eye-sight to play on his insecurities. With her at the DP, he always knew what she would be up to, and whether Clark was part of it).

And frankly, I can't think of anything sweeter than the expression on that idiot's face when she tells him she's moving in with Clark. Not to mention, I'd rather poke my eyes out than contemplate Chloe moving in with that jerk *shrugs* She might knock him back because it's too soon after they got back together, but with the way things are playing who knows. I think them living together will be too complicated secret-wise, though.



Depends if you consider Nois a threat to Lex, or a pawn of his. If she's the one still employed at the DP, I guess he must still want her around for some reason ie control. I also don't think she's going to quit any time soon. These days, as per Grulian, she's really not prone to listening to Chloe, and I don't think how that would change with Clark. He's worthy of being her tv repair man and nothing more these days.

I'm excited for Chluthoropolis II. Nothing in this world (except for tons of Clex) could make me happier. Chloe getting fired in "Descent".... Awesome.

I love how they mention that Lex owns the Talon, they mention that Chlois (hehe) live in the Talon, but never the twain shall meet.

What about the possibility that Chloe moves in with Jimmy if they get back together. I mean since a lot of people call them Clana 2.0, it would seem living together would be the next step, though i dont believe they are another verison of Clana.

Chloe living on the farm would make her no better than Lana or Nois. Maybe living at the Kents' farm is fine for moochers and slackers like Lana and Nois, but I want better for Chloe. But, I'm not a Chlark shipper so the allure of closer Chlark proximity at night for some sexual interaction doesn't mean squat to me. I care about Chloe's characterization as an independent person more.

Like I've never liked Chloe living in the Talon apt because Lex owns it, but I've fanwanked a rationalization that she sublets with Nois from Lana so it's not like she owes Lex some favor for letting her live there. I still don't like it though. That was Lana's pet project. Chloe should have her own apartment that she CHOSE, in the city where she grew up, that is conducive to her goals, especially her dream job at the DP, not fall into something because it is convenient. Chloe isn't the type to take the easy path. I liked Chloe's dorm room set, bc Chloe arranged for that purposefully and it was Lana who was the tagalong. Chloe didn't rely on Lana or Nois or anyone for living accomodations. She took care of herself which is what I generally like to see her do.

And I don't like ISIS because it was Lana's deal. That was something Lana started. The Watchtower belongs to Ollie. Chloe has her own agenda, she shouldn't be picking up pet projects for other people. They just said what Chloe's dream job is - it's the DP, and Lex fires her from it. There should be nothing else on the go-getter Chloe's mind other than getting her job back and protecting the DP from Lex. I know that is what I want to see her doing.

It's not like they need to show where she's living anyway, or going home every night unless the storyline calls for it - and then, it could just be a quick line of dialogue. She could just be crashing wherever for the night, in the middle of her investigation into Lex; and working at the Kent farm with Clark if need be.

Count me in as someone who doesn't want to see Chloe camping at Chez Kent. She's supposed to represent NON-farm living, not making things uber-nice for him to stay. I don't want HER to start cooking stupid pancakes and simpering.

It's a pity Chloe can't live with her . . . . DAD. (stupid writers)

By taking her away from the DP, though, you need to replace the venue where the majority of her scenes will temporarily take place. I don't see them building a new set, so of the sets that are available, Isis seems the most likely. I don't think that in any way means Chloe will be running Isis, just that she will be using the space and resources. Ditto if they use the clocktower set - I don't think that means Chloe is only going to be doing Watchtower duties, although the show has introduced that as a possible avenue of income that she could turn to while unemployed, just again that she would be using the space and resources.

What??! I though she was conceived by a virgin :D

This show doesn't do real arcs that often, in my opinion. Mostly they throw out hints in a couple of episodes about where they are going then they have one or two episodes that touch on a development, then they are done. So I wonder if Chloe will be out of work like 2 episodes. I say one scoobie at the Kent house, one at the Talon and then we're back on set. I don't think this is the long hoped for Chlois set up so much as a tease. Man, aren't I usually more optimistic?

I think a lot depends on whether MR will be back for season 8. If not, then the DP under Lex's control would have to be wrapped up fast, but otherwise, even if he came back for a few episodes it could stretch out.

They have had a long arc with her MF issues. They did a good job with Chlionelopolis in season 3. The writers usually give a proper amouth of attention to AM's big story arcs...though I suppose they might not view this as one of those and they do still have to resolve the MF stuff don't they.

IMO, the ToS arc ended in Cure, then Chloe magically had control of her powers when they came back five episodes later in Gemini. Maybe there was a long arc where Chloe struggled with them in Offscreenville (where we also got Lois's non-Boobstein journalism arc and all of Lex working on his evil plans), but I did not see it on the show.

That being said... if the crack monkeys are willing to forget about the ToS, then so am I. YMMV.

Me too, especially if they're refocusing her back on Lex and her reporting. Finally.

I moved a bunch of posts here from the spoiler thread. TVGuide makes mention of Chloe getting fired, and as a mainstream publication isn't considered a spoiler. Plus, the writing's kinda been on the wall ever since Lex took over the Daily Planet.

Even if it was quoted by Al Gough? Just asking.

But yeah, they have hinted stuff that were obvious. In Kara many outed Grant right then and there as a Luthor Plant. Now I don't think anyone expected it to be a Julian Clone, now that's a twist, but we knew Grant was involved with the Luthor. Now once the DP takeover the comment has been "why are they even working there" As for the talon, I just fanwacked it that it's now under Lana's ownership because it was something she got from the Divorce i dunno. But if this means we see the return of ReporterChloe then honestly I'm all for it.

I buy that.

Why do some people think Chloe isn't going to go after Lex,but that Lois will get pissed and do it? It says in the blurb that Chloe being fired just makes her more determined to expose Lex's crimes. It sounds like Chloe is going to go after Lex, maybe her and Lois will team up, but it doesn't sound like it'll just be Lois "avenging" her cousin's firing,imo. Wouldn't it have said if Lois was the one going after Lex and not Chloe? It specifically said Chloe so..maybe a team up if anything.

Hell, do the writers even remember that Lex owns the Talon? For all the talk of Lex getting smarter, a few well placed listening devices would have answered all of his questions about Clark years ago.

I can go with Lana owning it. That, or Shelby. Definitely Shelby.Three possibilities, IMO.

1) Chloe has done little to nothing to go after Lex since Progeny, at least as a reporter. She has helped Clark and Ollie to stop Lex's operations, but when was the last time she tried to write a Luthor-related story? Now I personally think there is a major meta reason for this. Fading Chloe's role as the Reporter and giving her the stupid ToS at exactly the same time Lois gets interested in Lex and is hired at the Daily Planet cannot be a coincidence. But from a canon perspective, Chloe has not gone after Lex as a reporter for a long time.

2) Related to this, Lois has been going after Lex since Nemesis. Now, I think she has done so in an inept, borderline comical manner.
Lois: You are bad! I have evidence! (Waves a large paper bag at Lex. Evidence is written on the bag in crayon).
Lex: Can I see that? (Takes the bag.) Thank you. Guards, take her away.
Lois: But my evidence!
Lex: (Drops bag into the shredder) Wow, you really are that dumb.
But at least Lois, bless her dumb shit heart, is making the attempt.

3) Lois is due for another lightswitch. Grulian and GroisGate did not provide it (what was the purpose of that little misadventure, anyway?), and poor Wes has been forgotten about. Chloe's firing could be the Cousin Termination of Journalistic Enthusiasm. Or maybe the Cousin Firing Of Professional Dedication?

Yeah, if it's in a mainstream publication, it's fair game. If it's, like, Ausiello interviewing him for a special spoilery column on the website, that that would be considered spoilery. But if it's in the pages of the magazine where anybody could come across it while flipping through it, then it's not a spoiler. As someone else once said, if you have to hide in a cave to avoid hearing about it, then it's not a spoiler.

Oh I do think she is, and I'm really excited it's just. a fear you know? ALMiles aren't known for their honesty but then you know.


Well that does make sense, thank you for explaining :D


I don't think I follow, are you suggesting that Chloe being fired, in addition with facts that she has loads of rejected articles would imply Lois is heading back to her S4-S5 standpoint of not liking Journalism?

Cause if you are, honestly, cannon/development would support that. Since joining a paper, Lois was kidnapped and attacked for information (Arrow) and then on the verge of firing where she's almost killed trying to get a story (Combat and Phantom) Then she gets bruised for another one (Kara) and does get into the DP however her articles get rejected (Kara, Action[somewhat] Wrath, Blue, Gemini, Fracture) her cousin who Lois says herself is the better reporter(she said this to Grant in Kara not meaning the debate thing...) being fired because she pissed Lex off, would mean Lois doesn't have the same chance and would hate being controlled. Also if Lois and Jimmy do get a story with a big lead, and Lex takes the evidence and kills the story, Lois would think all her hard work is for nothing thus killing the enthusiasm for journalism that she had in Sneeze.

No, just that I am trying to come up with a funny title for what could be Lois's latest "I will be a Serious Reporter! No joking this time!" lightswitch.

As opposed to the "I will be a cloned boss humping dumb shit!" that was onscreen for much of this season. YMMV.

OTOH, I like when ED plays a more serious Lois, so I am willing to treat GroisGate the same way I do the ToS. If the show is willing to ignore it, then so am I.

Lex has twice alluded to the fact that he owns the Talon to Kara, in Fierce I believe he outright called himself the owner, and in Fracture when she wonders if she can get her job back after finding out she used to work there, Lex just smiles and says he thinks the owner won't mind. So canonically in S7, the Talon is still owned by Lex. To me, he just doesn't really care much about it unless it suits his interests, like having an in with his pretty new obsession. As for Lois and Chloe living there, I don't think he really cares.

Well does Lex and Lana still share the ownership then? Cause I know it was a joint thing between Lana and Lex.

Lex bought Lana out at the end of S3 so she could go to Paris; she then rented the apartment in S4 while Martha managed the Talon through her appointment to state senate in S5. Lana currently has nothing to do with the Talon, I think.

In the new TV Guide, the photo they use for Smallville is of Clark and Chloe (in the barn) from "Justice." The caption for the picture is, "Clark and Chloe are at odds with Lex." The episodes after "Veritas" are already written, "Descent", "Sleeper", and "Apocalyps." I'd think Al, or whoever, would be more accurate on the episodes already written versus episodes that haven't be written. Wouldn't the viewers root for Chloe to go after Lex (since she's being fired for lame reasons), and is dirrectly effected by Lex? Lois isn't effected at all, so I don't see viewers going "yeah Lois take out Lex for Chloe." If Chloe and Lois team up then that's different,but it sounds like Chloe's going after Lex.

Yeah it looks like the final episodes is focusing on Chlarkex which IMHO is awesome.

From the spoilers thread...



IMO, the only way for Chloe to be victorious over Lex is if TPTB forget about what they have set up the past year. I say this because Lex can do so many things to Chloe right now to seriously screw her over. Here are some of these things...

-Kill her.
-Throw her in 33.1

The following are things that Lex can do to Chloe without even having to commit a crime...

-Release the evidence that he has on her from Progeny, which will land her in jail.
-Have her fired, which will happen coming up.
-Expose Chloe as a meteor freak to the world, which will destroy her reputation.

That's five things that Lex can do to do Chloe so if Chloe were to ever try to take down Lex, as I've said above, the only way she is going to get away with it is if the writers conveniently forget about all of the things that Lex can do to Chloe. I'll also add that if these things are forgotten about, it will only weaken Lex's character. I can live with someone getting the best of Lex on this show, but I simply can't live with someone getting the best of Lex while he stupidly forgets about everything that he could've done to this person, unless he gets killed which is not likely to happen. I understand that this is the way that things played out with Lana, but with Chloe, Lex will lose more. He'd lose ownership of the DP, perhaps making him look bad in the public's eyes and if he gets thrown in jail for his crimes with 33.1, he'll lose his freedom. None of that happened with Lana when all was said and done, but I do admit that this storyline was extremely bad for Lex's character. This thing with Chloe would be a repeat of that, and then some.

1) I don't think the kill her option would apply cause honestly we don't know if she won't just resurrect herself

2) 33.1 was shut down and handed over to the government, so I don't think he has control over it, thus him wanting the freaks cured.




Chloe has Oliver Queen as an Ally so that may keep her from Jail time. But with her mom under Queen's protection they can form a valid defense.
-Let her get fired, cause that's the only thing he can do, which sets up everything
-Exposing Chloe, means exposing all meteor freaks to the world. Many have been heroes and if Superman is any example for how they are treated in the future I doubt it'll ruin her reputation. Besides admitting there are Meteor Freaks would add validation to her article of Lex commiting crimes of Humanity/ creating super powered soldiers. So outing Chloe would hurt Lex just as much as hurting her. But then her power is healing so they may just call her a Saint.


IMHO what will happen is what LDoK suggested in the Spoiler section. A win win on both sides. Chloe exposes Lex, he loses the DP,

That leaves Lex to do the only option he has left to harm Chloe

-Kill her loved ones, aka Lois Lane

GabbyA, you might want to do something with spoiler tags.

I fixed it, but please don't post spoilers here, even with tags. You never know when some kind of glitch will happen and it shows up anyway, despite your best efforts.

Thanks.

Don't even play with my emotions like that, Gabby. I'm GGLC just thinking about it.

A couple of posts have been deleted.

If you're speculating about the future based on an early viewing of Veritas, please save it till tonight after the episode airs in the US. See my opening post in the Canada thread about that. Also, no spoilers, even with spoiler tags. I mentioned that just yesterday.

WTF did the promo monkeys do! We've been waiting years for that scene and they waste it on a promo. Idiots.

I saw that and want to pretend it's a dream. I don't want that to be how it happens. And to give it up this early is just stupid. At least only do it a week in advance like with the Directors Cut.

It has to be. It's done in the same sort of hazy blurry filter that was used when we were in Lex's head in Lexmas and Fracture.

But that just might be promo monkey editing tricks.

Descent Trailer:

http://svfan.com/content/view/878/28/

WTH?! They put it in the promo!? I mean, we all knew it was going to happen but... to put it in the promo?! I don't even know how to respond to that.

Yes, I do. They better have cut out some extreme, epic struggle (both physical and verbal), because if it's THAT easy, he should have done it YEARS ago.

At least we might get some fencing? It looked like it, although they also recycled that villain of the story line from "Onyx" so the fight clip could have been from an earlier season.

It seemed to me that most of the trailer was recycled, but for the defenestration scene. And that was actually filmed for "Veritas," I believe, so I guess they used what footage they had available and filled out the rest with old stuff.

Still, giving away the big death is just stupid.

Maybe the defenestration is a dream sequence or something. Could they really be that incompetent?I squeed when I saw the fencing. It's been so long since Lex and Lionel crossed swords (minds out of the gutter, ppl).

Big, pulled out writers's asses, twist for Freak episode shown one week in advance. Yes, they sadly can be that bad.

Maybe Lex imagines killing Lionel in a bunch of different ways before actually doing it! (Because otherwise....this is very anti-climactic.)

My big problem with defenestration is that despite everything Lionel has done, after seven years his journey should not end with *SPLAT.*

Unless Clark's first flight is to save Lionel...which would just be weird.