I think that's been suggested before, but even if it is, that doesn't excuse the AI's psychotic behaviour. It's certainly been preaching "save the race, not the individual" and I do think it wants Clark to make sure Earth and humans don't destroy themselves, but it's methods are, obviously, questionable. We still need a reason why it's been programmed the way it has, or if this isn't the way it was programmed, what happened to make it this way.

This is so completely possible in RL. Words can mean so many things in other languages that a lot of it is just contextual. But it seems like the info was downloaded into Clark's brain correctly. Heh, but can't you see the scene:

Clark: I'm done with you, Jor-El! I'm not going to rule this planet!
AI Jor-El: Who said anything about rule?
Clark: Well, you did. Remember? "The last son will rule the third planet"?
AI Jor-El: No, no, Kal-El. You've made an error! It means he will protect the third planet! As punishment for your shoddy translation, I must trap your feet in ice and make you conjugate verbs until your Kryptonian is perfect!

Is the AI cold? Emotionless? Yes. Does it behave questionably? Absolutely. But this isn't a person we're talking about, it's a computer program. It seems to have been programmed with a specific mission, which is to make Clark into Earth's protector. In general, and it seems, against Zod/Brainiac/rogue Kryptonians in particular.

The Jor-AI is concerned with the big picture. Not the details. The big picture being Earth's survival. So to an emotionless computer program I can see how it's behaviour is logical.

Also, the Jor-AI was programmed by a Kryptonian with Kryptonian values. Not a human. It's possible that Kryptonians are a little more pragmatic in terms of the bigger picture than we are.

I've never had a problem with the way Jo-AI behaves from this point of view. If the program were a person? Abusive asshole. But it's just a program. You can't assign human motivations and values to something that isn't even a person, OR a human.

It does seem so, and I have to think the main reason this was done was so Clark would be able to decipher the messages sent with him. Given that, I'd find it hard to believe they'd send a message that could lead to ambiguity as to its meaning, especially one that makes such a huge difference.


True, but we've also seen what Jor-El was like, personality wise, as per Relic, and that doesn't mesh with the "personality" of the AI, or that the man who sent his only child to a family based on how impressed he was with their "capacity for love" would program the AI in such a manner that has lead to significant physical and emotional abuse of said child. There's a disconnect somewhere that needs to be explained.

So much word, PolarB.

ITA. If Jor-El programmed that computer to go ahead and take Clark from his family when he came to maturity so he could fullfill his destiny, why would he send Clark to people who would raise him lovingly and as a traditional human? If it was destiny and toughness he was after, he should have sent Kal-El to become a Luthor.

From something born out of the Chlois thread:

It isn't, though. That's not the story they're telling. Yes they've introduced a lot of elements from Clark's later life, but Clark at the DP, Clark putting on the suit, Clark marrying/dating Lois Lane aren't what this show is about. Because we all already know all that. This is an interpretation of what comes before and how he gets to the DP, how he gets to putting on a weird looking suit and flying around saving the day and how he decides that Lana Lang isn't the girl he's supposed to be with.

I understand the desire to see parts of those future aspects portrayed on the show, but AlMiles are under no obligation to give that to us and indeed, appear to be planning not to, nor have they ever said they would. I don't see that as laziness or lack of caring, it's just not what the concept of the show is about and never has been.

I think when they introduced Chlois/Nois, they're obligated to tell that part of the story as much as with Lana. It's the downside of the audience knowing how the story is supposed to end, when accompanied with how badly Clana has been done over and over and over and over again, they lose the hook of how tragic this relationship with her is supposed to be - especially because ILL (whether you believe in Chlois/Nois) is right there waiting for Clark to get his head out of Lana's ass.

IMO, most of the fandom just wants Clark to move on past Lana, but the show and the writers seem intent to stick to an eight-year old series plan that hasn't evolved with their audience and how the audience has changed. Kring is doing it, so is Kripke with various aspects of Heroes and SPN.

I also fail to see how they can be so blind as to see that Lana isn't working - they've called Clana a dead horse and so forth, so the knowledge is there - so, it brings me back as to why the initial concept of the story couldn't have evolved - it's supposed to be about Clark and Lex, IMO, not Lana and her Love Life.



I disagree. I think it is laziness and an inability to think beyond an ending they thought of eight years ago that's apparently going to cure everything and make this show nice and shiny at the end of it's run. I think their thinking hasn't evolved, or taken the audience's views - especially on Lana - into consideration. Right now, IMO, the expectation is that Lana will be absolved of all her sins and be nice, and bright and sweet by the end of the series in order to wave Clark off into the big, bad world as per usual. Which is what they usually do. So, yeah, I don't really think they care about the show anymore. About the spin-off they can get from it - IMO, that they care much more about.

I assumed Chloe's power has to do more with healing things that are dead... even when she healed Jimmy, it was healing dead cells, wasn't it? (I could be reaching)

A Coma!Lana might not be able to be healed, because she's not totally gone.

Yeah, I always thought Chloe had the power of life. Giving life to dead skin cells could be consideration. It would be interesting if there is a limit to Chloe's power. Maybe she can't heal illnesses, but just physical injures like cuts, bruises, and overall death itself.

Also we are stuck with a scenario, can Chloe heal a person twice? It could be possible her power is only a one time thing. Meaning, if you Chloe healed Lois in Phantom, could it be possible she can't heal her again cause she left, in a sense, an invisible imprint of herself in Lois, keeping her from healing a person another time around.

I think maybe in Fever she helped Clark out with her emoting. He does seem to get a second wind after she leaves.



I so hope this is not explored. The two characters she does heal, Lois and Lex, aren't they non-killable in DC canon?

That's a fascinating theory. I never thought of that. I kinda of figured situations like that helped to form her ability (seeing Clark sick, Lana injured, etc) but I never thought that her meteor infection was active that long ago.

Yeah he does stir after she touches his hair.

Was Clark's illness life threating? I seem to recall it was, enough that Helen could take blood from him. I think her infection manifested when she needed it. It just gets worse for her each time she uses it.

movieweb.com has more info about the contest.


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I read more about it and it's lamer than I thought. People get to vote on the direction of the storyline. I thought it was actual contest where the viewers could make up the story.

Wow dude, you were right!

Anyway....Traveler trailer:

http://svfan.com/content/view/864/28/

Was the girl who said "Turn over the Son of Krypton" Maybe!Mercy? Also I'm convinced now more then ever, Veritas is biting Lionel in the ass and he is being blackmailed, basically I don't believe this is the return of the MB.

Thats a kick ass trailer. And I'm pretty sure thats Patricia Swann that is talking about the last son of Krypton.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was Patty, too. Definitely not Maybe!Mercy.

So, anybody going to vote on that Stride promo SV comic, whatever it is?

I did. Considering how cannon J&D was, maybe this Hero comic stride promo thing will be cannon too.

How many & what are the choices do you have to pick in the story?

Also, I thought it is really weird that the official Stride site has nothing on this promo.

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I'm reading it and Pete is even friendly with another JERK in this comic. Funny! But, where did Lex come from and why did he have them beat up? I'm confused there.

Oh, it was a vision of what happens in the future. Heck, this is a better story than Hero!

I think we're expected to pop back every so often and vote again ala a choose your own adventure story by popular vote. I voted for going to talk to Chloe cause I figure if they go to Clark they would then just move on to Chloe. Anything to hurry it along.

Since Lex is playing with that soldier from his childhood, does that mean he remembers Clark going into his memories?

Over in the Lex thread, Kayla came up with the idea that since Clark and Alexander left the doors to the memories open when they ran out, they kind of trickled back into circulation. I like that idea A LOT. So I don't think Lex knows Clark was playing in his head (*shudder*), but he's regained some repressed memories and perhaps has an inkling that Clark knows more than he was letting on.

Oh, I think that is a good explanation. Thanks!

There's a longer trailer and director's cut at cwtv.com, but I can't see them. Can anyone make a transcript, please?

nex, it's transcribed in the Spoiler Discussion thread.

I'm rewatching Freak and Progeny right now, with Lex's statement from "Hero" about how he controls Chloe's fate. I honestly feel sick at this thought, but, what if Lex is after Chloe and not Clark?

Wrong thread...sorry!

The Canadian trailer for Traveler is up at DTS

Warning: It is very spoiler-ish

BadToad beat me to it.

Wow. Space trailers put CW trailers to shame. Love that they actually use the Superman symbol for the backdrop.

Thanks, BadToad.

Wow, that was... pretty awesome. I want to live in Canada!

I don't know, is it just me?, but did that line "I can see why they want you?", while pulling Clark's hair, then hitting him just positively scream S&M TC!Hoyay? Oh my.

I second your "oh my." It's not just you.

Can we give out the HoyYah! award before the episode even starts? Wow.

Whoa. That will fuel fanfic writers' inspiration for months.

The comic has been updated and you can vote for the next installment!

Lana looks hilarious! She looks nothing like Lana. Hee!

OMG, Clana is even worse in the comic! Ugh!

Excuse me, but what the heck happened with the coffee cup? I don't get it.

I knew that people would chose for them to go to Clark and the next one picked will be 'go with Clark' too!

There also appears to be a second/longer trailer for Traveler at the main CW Smallville page, too. One even us foreigners can see!

Is this it? Canadian Trailer

Nope. It seems to be a slightly longer version of the original CW trailer. It starts with Clark reading from the book Patricia gives him about how "the Traveler will bring great change to the Earth" and then starts in with most of the same footage from the original CW trailer.

Hm. Swann's journal?

I was just about to post that trailer, found by accident. :) TVGuide Trailer

Hope it loads.

Not only Clark says: "The Traveler will bring great change to the Earth", we have Lionel saying: "I'm ready to make a deal" in a creepy MB voice that I just LOVE...

Is not this very same one?

I knew they were going to have to go see Chloe, that's why I voted for her. We would have been able to skip the Comic!Clana and Lana being "smart and beautiful" *gag* Is the Goughlar secretly writing this shit? This should be a lesson, voting for Clark gets you Clana.

I kinda thought she did.



The thing I think is funny about the choices is that while Jordon, initially, goes to Clark, he winds up going to see Chloe at The Daily Planet as well. Chapter 2 ends up giving both choices as a result. He goes to see Clark and Chloe.



I had some issues with the "I'll start some tea" and HomemakerLana. It's just so wrong on so many levels. It's truly gagworthy, but the unfortunate thing is that was the way "Hero" was and since the Stride comics are pretty much based on that episode, it makes sense. Clark making a comment about how Lana was "beautiful and smart" could have been left out, though :)

Hope Chapter 3 has some good Chlex in it. Looks like they may be heading towards a Chloe vs. Lex confrontation a la "Hero".



I'm not totally sure I get it, either.

Jordan's friend, Zach, looks to have caught the coffee cup, but then it smashes feet away from them. It seems like the cup gets out of Zach's hand and flies to where it breaks.

Not sure what to make of it yet. Maybe it's something we will find out later on in the story?

I hope so too. That was my favorite part in the chapter. I thought that I would be able to vote for Chloe and Lex to have it out since it ended with Chlex.

Maybe I'm easily amused but I like the Stride comic. I too hope we get Chloe/Lex in Chapter 3.

Chapter 3 is up and there is NO Chlex scene. In fact, it sucks. The choice sucks too. Take a offensive stand or defensive stand? Please!

They have Lex look so scary and his eyes are even the wrong color.

OMG: Veritas Promo:

http://svfan.com/content/view/870/28/

I so can't wait for this episode.