That was a great fucking post Chunkeymonkey...

Hahaha...thx Kahhhn! I needed to vent =)

Building off of a comment on one of the other threads, I apologize for not correctly crediting one of our family.

Lionel is shown to have given Lana the magic vitamins, Lex accidentally killed the doctor because he thought Lana would never believe his innocence. Lex also finds out daddy knows where Mrs. Luthor is hiding and in a moment of rage- which has been building since the "slap" and the losses at Reeves Dam- kills Lionel. Clark happens upon Lionel dying and zips Chloe overto heal Lionel. But, as her power only works on family members or people who haven't tried to kill her, Lionel dies. His parting words to Clark she is alive, my son.... Protect Lana from his rage.
And into sweeps we go. Well everyone else would go, because I would be beyond done at that point.

Heres to hoping I'm so very very wrong.

Moved my post from Spoiler Discussion...Lionel could be behind the baby plot...I brought up that Lionel might be behind it several pages ago in the Spoiler thread, and brought over my post that I wrote on another site.

"...but I believe there's also room to suspect Lionel as behind the pregnancy despite the implication in Promise.

Despite being an emissary of Jor-El or maybe because of it, Lionel needed to keep Lana close to Lex supposedly in order to help Clark. Okay. However, Lionel is still Lionel underneath the cloak of goodness. It's entirely plausible that Lionel orchestrated the pregnancy and miscarriage to keep Lex and Lana distracted just enough so that he could:

1. Find out what Lex was up to, as was confirmed in Phantom. (Self/Clark)
2. Help Clark (uh, okay), as was suggested in Phantom. (I use suggested because Lionel is Lionel, after all.)

Lionel arranges for Lana's medical records to be doctored, unbeknownst to Lex, Lana and even the doctor. The doctor states that the pregnancy is atypical in Crimson and communicates it to the audience and Lex. If Lex isn't behind it, he decides to go with it because it ensures that Lana remains with him.

When Lana decides to back out of the marriage, Lionel plays the only card that will work because being pregnant isn't enough to keep her close to Lex. By forcing Lana to marry Lex, Lionel can learn through Lana what he needs to know in order to help Clark. (uh, okay - I'm going to assume that Lionel's afraid of Jor-El. Hey, it's only a theory.)

After all the times he's called out Lex, Lionel hasn't once confronted Lex about the pregnancy nor used it against Lex. If Lex was behind the pregnancy and Lionel knew it, I would think that Lionel would use that to force Lex into sharing information based on Lionel's past behavior.

So, let's assume that Lionel might have been doing something to make the doctor believe it was Lex. When the the doctor accuses Lex of doing something (anything), Lex panics because he knows that somethings not right but must secure Lana regardless, and Lex accidentally kills the doctor. (Plot Hole) Lionel must do something with the corpse because if found, it would implicate them both, or he simply has to cover for Lex, again.

Once the marriage takes place, there isn't any reason to keep the baby charade going. Either the cessation of hormone dosages induced a fake miscarriage or Lana was given something. IDK, I'm not a healthcare professional. It also paves the way for Lex to take the blame/fall, not that this is Lionel's intention, but it does set it up."

Okay, I didn't summarize much if at all. I also know that there are some blanks/plot holes that need to be filled in as well as some points that might be argued away. But, I'm just getting started on my theory. :D

I don't know much about the real Martian Manhunter but is MM an "The ends justify the means" type guy? Because is he the type that would advocate his partner manipulating both his son (the "evil" party) and his son's fiance (an "innocent" party) by means such as drugging and mindfucking her (and his son) or is that the type of thing that would disgust him? Or maybe he just hates Lana (*please please please please please*).

Eh, let's face it, no amount of jumping back and forth, even if Lex was the druggist, will make the faux-baby plotline make any, any sense.

IDK much about MM either, and just because MM says that Lionel is on the "good" side..oh wait...MM can read minds right? Hmmm...that does present a plot hole. Anyway, Lionel is still Lionel and will work it the way Lionel wants to by any means necessary.

True...I get a little OCD when I can't pinpoint certain things that don't fit the general consensus...just can't let it go. ;)

If the dam facility floods from all the damage, all the soldiers would probably be destroyed.....well, they should be destroyed. Ofcourse, Lex would find a way to make bail and get back to the dam to dry off the Lana clone and take her back to the mansion.

Good point... Let's say their silver hotpants act as a flotation device. Also, Lex designed them to be able to hold their breath for a long time.

No he'd get down there and save a hotpants soldier clone and take him back to the mansion for good keeping and care rehabilitation.

Here's a thought. What if Brainiac is behind the faux!Baby. It would make just as much sense as anything else and possibly even more. I mean he never really had an ending. He just kind of disappeared.

And thanks to Cyb and megan I have this image of army of muscle men in nothing but silver speedos rushing to the prison to save Lex to the dismay/confusion of the guards.

from Spoiler thread too:

Spoiler/spec tomato tahmatoe. From what has been posted thats why I keep saying that they are stringing together the ambiguousness of Evol!Lex and still MB!Lionel to make it possible Lionel is the true threat and Lionel can lie the skin off of a cat and make it think it's warm during the winter. Lex cannot and he's anviliciously apparent tot he point he can easily be written innocent. I think both of them were guilty of tampering with Lana and Faux baby. Lionel flatout drugged her into the pregnancy so well when the doctor finally detected it, he thought Lex did it and was angry he the doctor was being manipulated. (plot hole+why Lex killed him just based on the 'false' accusation of faking the baby unless it was because he was doing something else to faux!baby = EVOL!innocentLex)

Lex on the other hand, though not knowing he was duped, believing in the doctor following his orders was trying to mutate or do tests on the baby and truly is shocked or worried when things go wrong and Lana gets too sick from the cider drink and other things that shouldn't adversely affect a truly pregnant woman.
Yes, just taunt me with fond dreams like that.

I could only buy this if a) the doctor, for some unknown reason, kept the fact that Lana wasn't really pregnant from Lex and b) they hadn't specifically shown Lex giving Lana the cider and then checking his watch right before he went to see her writhing on the floor in agony.

I see no reason for (a), as the doctor was working for Lex. If Lex had hried him to mutate a baby and there was no baby to mutate, I think he'd be pretty quick to let Lex know. I suppose it's possible that it could be fanwanked that the doctor was ultimately working for Lionel, but so far, we've been given no indication of that.

As for (b), there really isn't any other reason to have the shot of Lex looking at his watch if not to imply that he knew something was about to happen. If it wasn't important and he really had nothing to do with it, all they had to do was show Lex simply walking down the hall to Lana's room to check in on his wife, and found her on the floor.

All things considered, I'm willing to accept that Lionel may be responsible for the pregnancy itself. However, I think it's more than clear that Lex was responsible for the miscarriage. If they're going to work it that way, then I have a feeling it'll come out that he was "doing it to protect Lana" from finding out that she was never pregnant, although why forcing the emotional trauma of a miscarriage on her is better than sharing her outrage that someone else did this to both of them and working together to find out who, I don't know.

Re: Martian Manhunter. J'onn is like a slightly weirder, more growds up version of Superman, I.E.: He is a boy scout. I absolutely love the character and since he can read minds, they've put themselves in a jam having him trust Lionel. (I am not confident they can write him out of the plot hole without somehow destroying the character, which pisses me off.)

He's not the type of person who would condone Lionel manipulating Clark or anyone else. If anything, finding out Lionel wasn't really trying to help Jor-El out at all would probably depress him and then he'd go cry over his dead wife or something. (But, in a less annoying, Martian-y way. For some reason Mars isn't as whiny as Krypton.)

Anyway, my predictions:

(1) Since Lana clearly meant for Lionel to see her car blow up, and that delivery truck so very blatantly crossed in front of him, she was obviously setting up her fake death to make Lionel a pawn in her game, and is even now as we speak training to be a delivery truck driver. "I likes the big van full of boxes, it reminds me of my parents, who were pancaked."

(2) Lionel realizes Lana is still alive and has duped not only him, but has put his son in jail, something even he failed to do (only getting as close as the nuthouse, not the bighouse.) He dies of shame.

(3) Chloe realizes that Veronica Mars has been cancelled and negotiates her own spinoff. Chloe is written off Smallville because she's "going on assignment" with Jimmy. Mid-season replacement "Sullivan's Travels" is a hit. Adorable Aaron Ashmore suddenly less dorky, more attractive when not forced to spew awful dialogue.

(4) The dam is saved by flotation devices, but not the soldiers. Clearly it's Lois that puts her implants to work. Duh.

(5) Martha Kent realizes she is a U.S. Congresswoman and does not actually need to have someone "run the farm." She insists Clark gets his ass back in to college before he turns out like Lois: All Talk And No Spell Check.

That's nice and all, but he's still Jimmy Olsen and he needs to fulfill his iconic destiny as photographer/Superman's pal/cross dresser. In his travels with Chloe, he needs to discover his inner Ed Wood.

Yes, but probably less dorky and more attractive when not written by the Smallville staff.

The entirety of season 7 will just be a game of keep away between Clark and Lex, with Lana as the ball.


It's hard for me to imagine anyone in drag as being dorky.

Hey, I just thought of something! If Lana was never really pregnant, and she refused to sleep with Lex after they were married (and presumably didn't do it while she was "pregnant",) does that mean she was re-hymenized? Do I win the internets?

I think the first half of season seven is totally going to be "YOU DROVE LANA AWAY!" "No, YOU DID! YOU KILLED HER!" "No, YOU!" "YOU!" "SHUT UP!" "NO, YOU SHUT UP!"

While I doubt seriously she is dead, I will be saddened but not surpirsed when they spend more than one episode on lana being dead. As I think about it PaKents essence was mentioned periodically over the season, but she will be a weekly reminder to all that watch that she was the final blow. And sadly, when she returns there will not be a) I almost killed Lex over you; b) how could you do that you selfish witch, or c) did you bring back pie? Instead it will be as if the heavens have given us another chance to love you. Followed by She's mine! No, you had a turn she's mine!

And of course, you were so tricky, such a smart young lady.

You totally win the internets.

I'm afraid of the Fembot!Lana. Clark told Lana the rest of the story. If they introduce Fembto!Lana, who doesn't know the secret, well, here we go the fuck again. Lex could insert some info or whatever, but it doesn't sound pretty.

My hope in Smallville as a show is totally eroded. So I just want to see S7 spiced up, all plot-lines, character arcs, continuity and destiny are off the table, wouldn't it be cool if:

The president dies (FOTW- whatever) and Martha is asked to sit on the Presidency. She shaves her head bald then sets out to destroy her son Clark Kent.

Lana ends up on a FedEx plane travelling over the pacific, there is a problem with the engines, the plane goes down and she finds herself alone on an island for 4 years- apart from a smoke monster- that kills her.

Lex develops a meteor ability of telekenisis. Unfortunately he has an accident and loses the use of his legs. He decides to put his powers to good use and opens up a school for the gifted. Teaching his 33.1 army to use their powers for the good of mankind.

Chloe ditches her DP job to travel the world solving mysteries and reporting back on them. Occasionally she needs to call in the help of one of her superhero contacts from the Justice League- this becomes a spin-off show.

Lionel is dying from Bizarro attack. Martian Manhunter offers to save Lionel by taking him to a remote planet, but he can never return to Earth. Lionel agrees and they fly off together.

Alicia returns. It is retconned that she actually teleported out just before the sandman guy managed to kill her, but she had a cousin who looked identical to her, who just happened to visit that day. (Hey no-one dies in comic books!)

Clark and Alicia get hitched properly this time. They form a superhero due and join Lex's school for the gifted, leading teams out to do battle with the forces of evil.

Guest appearances from:
Peter Petrelli, who ends up dating Chloe.
Sylar, who kicks Clark's ass but then Clark is helped by Peter and Claire.

And here I thought you were setting me up for a joke about Sylar not being able to find Clark's brain once he got the skullcap off.

I would love if they used Bizarro to give Clark a little insight about him and his decisitions in life if Bizarro took Clark0s DNA he might as well had absorved all his memories and then know about Lana, Chloe and Lex. He could tell him that she never loved Lana but she was atracted to her beauty and lock in loving her mode because he deeps down feel he owes her or that if he marries her he will never need to ge a hero only a farmer and a husband and father, he could get away from his destiny with Lana holding his balls and that Lana knows the power she has over him. That I would like.

I got a good giggle out of picturing that.

Speaking of A-Little-More-Bizarro, how are they going to get rid of him? He's not weakened by Kryptonite. Martian Manhunter doesn't seem to be able to fight that particular phantom very well. I guess the PZ thingie doesn't work on him. I'm thinking we'll get anvilled over the head about how Clark is so innately good that his DNA will eventually convert the phantom. He'll probably fly himself into the sun in a moment of angst. And then we can all come up with ways that Clark can give his DNA to Lex to make him good, too.

The comic book crowd could probably better answer that question, but I think Bizarro is known to be stopped only by Blue Kryptonite....and, we all know Blue-K hasn't been introduced on the show at this point. We know the Phantom was the product of a Krypto-lab experiment, and I think Blue-K is also produced in a lab,...interesting notion to think about. Someone versed in the comics should probably try to answer this question.

I rather hate that everything is solved by crystals . . . It's a pity they don't have someone actually smoking one onscreen.

As I recall, the last Clark-gone-bad, Kal-El in "Crusade," had to be stopped by black K. Had it been introduced on the show yet, or was it an out-of-nowhere deus ex machina? I remember that "Onyx" was later, but I don't recall for sure if "Crusade" was the first usage of black K.

At any rate, for them to use yet another deus ex machina on the show would be irritating, to say the least. Surely they can come up with some way that would tie into the plot. Sunlight (and yes, he's been exposed to sunlight, but maybe it takes a few minutes to affect him). Chloe's stupid tears (maybe they heal humans but hurt Bizarro). Whatever. As long as it's actually related to the plot.



That's a good point, and I could go for that. IIRC, black K was introduced into the show by Swann's assistant, who just handed it to Martha. But if the writers decide to use blue K, then I'd like to see Clark break into a Level 33.1 facility and do research to figure out how to stop Bizarro. This way he could learn more about Level 33.1, while discovering that blue K was created as a sort of failsafe. That would help tie into the 33.1 plot and set it up as an arc for next season. However, this only works if Bizarro goes underground for a while, so Clark doesn't have to actively fight him right away, because if Bizarro is out there killing people, Clark's first responsibility is to battle him.

Oh, my God. I'd like to kill myself. I just typed out a long history of Bizarro, and now it's gone for some reason. At any rate, modern day Bizarro/Blue K was created in a lab, Leo. By Lex. But I think there was also a Joker version of Bizarro, too. But of course the SV Bizarro is already nothing like everyone else's version because the comic/animated version of Bizarro talks backwards and is more like a mentally challenged kid than a "bad" copy of Superman. I guess having TW say "Me am more bad version you, pie me hate" would be too "comic booky."



Ahh, the Harry Potter "out." Bizarro is destroyed by Clark's loooooove, lalalalala...

ETA: I just realized (thanks, Wikipedia!) that in Superman III there was a "bad" clone of Superman, but they didn't call him Bizarro. Could it be that instead of bothering to read comics, The Goughlar just watch the movies over and over? (But then, wouldn't they have known that AOT was Lana Lang?)

While catching up on the comments and reading your post, I braced myself for a "and Clark will be blamed for Bizarro's death". Whew! Thank goodness. But, then I read the last sentence, and I can see it now...a new thread "101 ways Clark can share his DNA with Lex".

The phantom was a product of a lab experiment on Krypton. He was banished to the PZ and escaped when Clark got out in "Zod". I doubt Level 33.1 would have the necessary research on Bizclarko.

I don't see why Lex should be the only one to get an infusion of Clark's DNA. Clark could fly around the world sharing his DNA with evildoers everywhere. Finally we'd have peace on Earth. Instead of Superman we'd have Superslut. I'd watch that.

Of course, most of the female population (and a sizeable number of the male population) might turn evil just so they could be "cured."

Superman - Making Love not War!
Superman - Saving the Way of the Bonobo

Yeah, but since when does logic ever enter in to anything on Smallville?

Actually, seeing as both Lionel and Lex have a history of experimenting on regular meteor rocks, I wouldn't be surprised if either one of them had "accidentally" created blue kryptonite, and in the big Clark-O fight they "accidentally" stumbled into a pile of it, and the phantom "accidentally" gets deflated, and I "accidentally" fall asleep.

Well, the bitterness in me thinks that Clark will land on top of the milk truck thus finding out the Lana is still alive and leave Bizzaro!Clark to run loose while he makes sure Lana is alright.

But my optimism hopes that since MM told Clark that the phantom was created in a Kryptonian lab then I'm hoping MM will come back to help or tell Clark how to defeat him. Maybe MM will have one of those bracelets that was used in the S5 premier to send him back to the PZ. A little retconning but maybe better this time.

My vote is that Bizarro commits suicide after Clark starts telling him about the story of his relationship with Lana.

I think Bizclarko would die of laughter and we'd commit suicide if we had to listen to Clark go on about his "relationship" with Lana.

Since when does Jimmy dress in drag? I'm not a comic person...what happens to him?

Oh, and booberella I like the Chloe spinoff idea. I would watch! heehee. And the rest of your predictions are good too.

The more I get reminded of how awful the execution of "Bizarro" is on this show, the more tempted I am to actually write fanfic based on that fake episode description I posted on my livejournal.

Me... writing fanfic.

FANFIC people.

I just got done watching Insurgence and was reminded how in S3 they were hitting a some sort of overall coherent stride and when it came to marketing as much as we made fun the WB had it going on with CD song packages that would go with episodes and the latest on the edge music would be playing like a fanvid for different scenes to provide atmosphere and theme. I have to say that with the merging into CW that hip packaging is gone with everything else they have done this season. I cannot remember once looking up who or which band and music was accompanying a show or scenes since S4 or 1-2 in S5.

I'm pretty optomistic about a Justice League return in Season 7, especiallu because Justin Hartley's show didn't get picked up....what do you guys think?

Now that you mention it, I've wondered only about one song during S6, and it was the one in Reunion when Ollie was testing his new arrow. I still haven't figured it out, yet. Other than that, the last time I remember buying a CD based on something that I heard on the show was S4.

Maybe those in the know have a better idea, but I expect neither a resurgence of JL episodes nor JH to be as prominent in S7. I could be wrong. :D

JH won't be featured prominently next year, but I would bet my future mortgages that he shows up for a 3 episode mini arc or something. And they will do another JL episode, but it may be with JH bringing some new people he found, but nobody big.

I have had those dirty thoughts as well. I will resist! Mostly because I don't have the time to write Fanfic with all the other crap I have to do.

wondering what makes you think they'll need to bring in new people? It's not as if Kyle Gallner, Lee Thompson Young & Alan Ritchson have become break out stars. I think they'd all come back at a reasonable price. The 5 kind of fit well together, plus you could add MM.

I really hope the Clexana is substituted by a nascent JL, and I hope the producers are smart enough to contract the actors for the episodes they are needed so no messing around with the writing, that in case they weren't lying and they really were going to use JL as part of the finale.

Here's one example. He was pretty hot.

Cross dressing was one of the more amusing and memorable modes of undercover work Jimmy Olsen employed in the Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen comics during the Silver Age.

Jesus. Why does Jimmy have girls legs? That's just... I don't think I have the words.

Jane Fonda work out tapes?

Suzanne Somers' thigh master?

Leg transplant?