I have a hard time believing that 'Rock the mythos' is anything other then KrisTom fans wanting to see Clana 'bang' (as they like to put it) in more then one medium. Clana in the comics might have been better portrayed then Clana on SV but ComicLana has already tried and failed to come between Clois. Lois Lane isn't going anywhere and I simply don't think they can accept that. Of course they are entitled to campaign for what they want but if they're hoping for success they're going to be mighty dissppointed in my opinion IMO.

Uh..... ....

SueB? Is that really you talking?

Um yeah? It's me --- what surprises you football or playstation?

BTW, no I don't have Madden 08 (yet). But I may have to scope it out at Best Buy just to see the Smallville ad on the sidelines.....okay, how lame is that?

No its not that..

Its just.. I've um, never heard a female talk that way about a football video game. Ever. It was surreal. Its like- 25 years worth of perception was suddenly shattered in that one single moment. Maybe I've just experienced one of those epiphanies that changes one's life forever.

It's on all the consoles, not just PlayStation.

My brother said it was pretty jarring to see that ad. My explanation for why that might be: "manlymanlymanlymanlyGAY!manlymanly."

Thanks, Sue! I'm more of a hockey gal so I wasn't acquainted with this.


Good for you! Enjoy the headrush!


Heh. It's important to have a bit of GAY among all the "manlymanlymanly"!

Happy to help!




hee.... I'm definitely checking it out now.

Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that Operation: Save Clark Kent is underway with sending letters. The first one is just an announcement of who we are and what our general concern is, and that's this week. Next week will be outlining our dislike of and concern for clana and what it does to Clark. The week after, I think, will be the Lex letters, and I am a little concerned about those, as most of the members seem to be far more concerned with what TPTB are doing to Clark than Lex. That's probably because a huge chunk of the members are general Superman fans more than SV fans.

I know that the spoilers are leaving ME depressed, at least...

The link is a few pages back, I believe.

This website lists its Top 10 SV eps of all time.

I'm OK with the top pick but the number 2 pick? Wow. And some of the other choices are interesting as well.

Wow. I think that's the first time I've seen "X-Ray" make it to a "Top 10" list. I don't completely agree with the other choices (where's the love for "Shattered" and "Memoria", yo?), but I can understand them being popular enough to make it to the list.

Hmm, maybe we can do our own Top 10 lists in the All Seasons thread? :) (Or should we be optimistic enough to wait for "Gemini" to air?)

I always like to read various SV top 10 lists. There is so much diversity, and polarization of opinions in this fandom, that it seems like each list is unique.

clooless, I think that sounds like a great idea :) Why wait?

Well that was obviously Clana biased which makes it completely meaningless in my eyes.

After Smallville is completely over I'd like to do a "KryptonSite Awards" for the entire series.

Hmm. Some of those, like "Crusade", wouldn't ever make my top 10. Others, such as "Reckoning" and "Arrival", I do consider good, but I'm not sure it's "top 10" material. My main "WTF?" is X-Ray third. I like it, but third?I think that'd be pretty cool.

What amazed me was in the discussion about Arrival, no mention at all about Chloe revealing to Clark that she knows his secret or Clark telling her he's an alien, which was pivotal. In fact, Chloe is only mentioned in the pilot description as a throwaway. Seemed pretty biased to me.

"Two words: Lana strips." I think I see the bias.....


Oooh, this sounds like fun!


That would be cool, Craig!

Wouldn't each individuals top 10 list be biased according to their likes and dislikes? I mean, thats sort of what makes them unique and fun, the fact that each person is going to come up with a list that appeals to their favorite aspects and characters.

As a Chlarker, that stuck out to me, too. That was one of the major points of the episode, that Clark finds out that Chloe knows part of his secret, and tells her the rest.



Sure. Still, I think if one's recapping what's noteworthy about the episode, they ought to mention major plot points. I'd like to think I'd mention the arrival of EDLois in "Crusade," even though I'm not fond of the character:-).



I agree, I wouldn't put it that high. I'm in the middle of rewatching it, though, and I am surprised by how much I like it. It's a surprisingly good one (although like the compiler of the list, I could do without every freak of the week falling for Lana, sheesh).

Arrival was one of the most significant episodes of the series, and I can't imagine why it wouldn't make an all-time best ep list. From a Chloiser perspective, this was a huge episode. Chloe was the first human to enter the Fortress. She was able to activate Clark's hearing from as little as a hushed whisper, and it broke Clark's attention from training with Jor-El. She used the well known Supes phrases.."faster than a speeding bullet"..."SUPER Clark"..etc. Add to that the fact that she revealed she was aware of Clark's abilities and him telling her his alien origin. This was a really big episode.

Reckoning, Nicodemus and X-Ray wouldnt even sniff my top 10, but the rest all would be in there. I don't think i'd put the Pilot at #1, but it would be in the top 5.

Nicodemus is the episode that makes this list a joke. The only reason that's even in there is because of the clana, same as Reckoning. But, Reckoning I can understand.

I agree, I can't see any reason for Nicodemus to be in the top ten, personally. It's just not that good, IMHO. I liked "Reckoning" all right, but wouldn't rank it among my personal top ten. But I think in a list of The Ten Most Important Episodes of Smallville, it would have to rank pretty close to the top.

Would it be blasphemy to say that I actually liked "Reckoning"? Enough that I'd be able to make place for it among my Top 10? I don't know. Despite the Clana, despite the stupid ass way Bo had to go, despite everything that was fundamentally wrong about the episode, I liked the concept. You know, sort of like "Promise", except the content of that one was so crappy it masked everything else. "Reckoning" was based on a really cool idea, and one I think was executed really well.


Well, "Gemini" seems to have all this hype surrounding it now, so I was wondering if we should give that one a chance before we all sort out our Top 10. But yeah, I'm fine with doing one now as well. I'm currently in exam-mode, but I should be done tomorrow, so I'll try and come up with a list for the All Seasons thread soon! :)

I'm going to take this over to the All Seasons thread, because I wanted to talk about it a little more and think we may be drifting off topic:-).

Man, you think in all that Lana stripping love, they could have at least thrown some love to her body double.

ETA: And yeah, reading through this, Chloe apparently wasn't in any of the episodes except Justice, where we got a snarky comment on Chloogle-ish things. Hmph!

We totally need our Top 10. The one above is Clana-infected and Chloe-ignoring.

Ah! Here is my beautifully BIASED top ten!

1. Transference- Because who doesn't want to see shirtless Tom Welling checking himself out, and that Chlark (okay Chlionel) scene had some amazing heat.
2. Delete- For the hilarious Chlana fight, and because I started watching the series Season 6- So this ep is first time Chlois popped in my head.
3. Rush.- Just a plain hilarious episode. And great Chlarkete friendship !!!
4. Blank- Because it was funny to see Chloe use the situation to satisfy her curiousity about Clark, but at the same time showed their growth in friendship to the point Chloe would never betray Clark, and if he'd only trusted her to begin with they could have been bffF a long time ago.
5. Lexmas- because!
6. Tempest- because its too cute.
7. Devoted- because its just HILARIOUS
8. Progeny
9. Freak
10. Fever- the letter scene saved it.


And where can I put Bound! And Arrival! And Thirst! And Labyrinth! And....yeah, I like Reckoning too...I have too many favs I guess.

Hmmm. I'm going by moments or images that have stuck in my head for whatever reason:

10. Hourglass - while I could live without a lot of it, this ep gets points for the Lex future vision. It was just too cool, him in his ice cream suit, all sweet-faced and evil
9. Perry - McKean!!!
8. Rush - for bad-ass Chloe and all that making out. Whee!
7. Bound - sexy ass lex, memorable Chlark elevator moment. This was just a sexy-ass episode.
6. Lexmas - I just got a kick out of seeing smiley, huggable Lex
5. Pariah - Chloe finds out. Awesome.
4. Transference - both Glover and Welling had awesome turns in this episode
3. Covenant - best ending ever, between the poisoning, the shaving and the explosions (Lana's inexplicable, never-before-seen artistic talent aside.... At leats she kind of left). I miss Evil!Lionel
2. Exile - I don't know. It was a rip-roaring good time and the first time we saw Metropolis (why the heck can't they find more reasons to have Maggie Sawyer back?)
1. Rosetta - just for general coolness and the use of the Superman theme and Reeves (how the heck could any list not include this?)

ETA: Looked over that site and some of the "articles" and reviews and... yeah. Total Clanaphiles and Chloe-haters... Well, it's not so much hate as disregard. Like, if she's in an episode they review, they ignore all parts she was involved in. Unfortunately, Chlarkophiles can't do that with Lana -- way too much of her to ignore.

You guys gave me an idea. Thanks!

The Smallville Top Tens thread.

Does anyone have a link to a good SV transcript site?

There's TWIZ, which has good transcripts up to about halfway through S5 and MegaSite which has transcripts for all seasons, but not every episode for earlier ones. It does have them for the second half of S5-S7, though, so if you combine the two, you should be able to get just about any episode you want. MegaSite's transcripts for very recent episodes aren't great quality, though - the formatting is way off on some of them. Oh, also beware of pop-ups for both sites.

Cool! Thanks!

Michael was seen at Sundance. Here's a report from a fan. Fan's report

Connor Stanhope (who plays Little Lex) has his own little web site and it has pics of his time on Smallville!

Here are pics of him with TW, MR, JG and I forget the lady's name who plays Lillian:

here.

That kid is quite possibly the cutest thing ever. Thanks for the link, atem!

He's adorable in the blue blazer and side combed hair.

Some of the quotes on his site about what people were saying about him, I swear a few of them were from this site. Nice to know someone working with him has been to TWoP.

I thought they were from here too! Hehe, that is awesome.

Thanks for the link. They quoted my review on his site, I had no idea. :) That's cool that he knows his performance was appreciated. I'm looking forward to seeing him on the show again.

Thanks for the link!

I found my comment on his website too, that I left at his IMDb message board.

His parents must be so proud, I am so excited for him and can't wait to see him next!

Great find, atem! Connor's adorable and I love the pics of him hanging out with the cast!

Thanks, but I didn't find it. I saw it posted on another forum and wanted to let fans here know about it.

Aaron Ashmore tours the Luthor Mansion on the CW Source

CW Source AA tour

That was funny. Thanks for posting it. I noticed the V symbol wasn't showing on the stain glass window.

Thanks for posting, SueB. The mansion looks fantastic.

The 'tour' of the mansion with CW Source and AA is now on youtube.com.

Aw! They need to get this kid on the show every week. He's so precious. I'm glad that he knows how much he was loved in "Fracture".Ty Nant water bottles, ahoy! Lex's office looks much smaller there.

The CW Site asks whether you'd watch the show without Lana/Lex, then who you think is going to die.

Wrondga (aka Kristen at E!) presents an arguement for Clana, Chlark and Clois, and asks for your vote

Does anyone know why www.svfan.com is down right now? I hope it's not a permanent thing...

IDK -- it's still down this morning.