I think Joey being a manchild is exactly why a lot of people (especially women) loved his character. He was sweet and innocent and I think that elicited a feeling of wanting to nurture him and take care of him.

The Urkel visits SF/Stephanie gets glasses episode was on tonight. I was the biggest Urkel fan when I was a kid. Now I understand my parents' hatred for him. And those were some hideous glasses on Stephanie. Poor kid.

Also on the topic of hideousness, Joey was wearing the fugliest shirt and purple cardigan. I don't recall enough about the show to know if he dressed like that on a regular basis, or if it was just this episode. But it was indescribably ugly.

Strange how Michelle calls it "ice cream" and not "owce cream" in this episode.

ETA: All the Full House memories are suddenly flooding back. I just remembered that Becky was my first girl-crush. I didn't know what a girl-crush was at the time, but looking back she was it.

Also, am I delusional, or at some point did Jesse sing "The cheese stands alone, the cheese stands alone, hunka hunka stinky cheese, the cheese stands alone." Please tell me I'm not crazy.

Yes, he sang that when he had to perform for Michelle's class.

I was somwhere between Stephanie's age and DJ's age when the ahow 1st aired, and even back then I was grossed out by the idea of Joey. A grown man with no children, but yet he acts like a child, living in an alcove with non-relatives. It was weird then and even weirder now. I find I cant even watch scenes with him in it, especially after reading this board to find out what a lecherous "man" he has turned out to be. Cut it out, indeed.

I am so surprised how this show has not held up over time for me. I loved it when I was a kid ( I loved all of TGIF, Fmaily Matters, Full House, Step by Step, etc) I still remember the theme song, lol. It's Friday night, and the mood is right... gonna have some fun, show ya how it's done, T G I F!!!! It just a combination of everything I guess -Joey's weirdness, Michelle's over the top cuteness and stupid one liners, the terrible Gibbler treatment, there were too many random "very special episodes" ... I can't even watch it much in syndication - except when the entire cast is together in a scene (like the backyard BBQ where Rusty casues confusion with the note) I love that episode.



Joey indeed had some fugly clothes. And he could give Bill Cosby a run for his money in the number of uglified sweaters he wore. His clothes also seemed to be a size too small for him.

Oh and.. mullet.

First season Joey didn't creep me out. The Joey starting out as a comic, young guy, funny and quirky.. that guy didn't creep me out. As he got older, more mullet-ey, more... inappropriate with his footie pjs and his other weird things I have to say that Joey became creepier and creepier. First season he didn't bug me.

I just watched the episode where Stephanie gets married to Harry. There's a subplot involving Joey and Jesse trying to help DJ with her project. An egg drop project. You know, that project that almost every kid in America does at one point or another.

Exactly how stupid are these guys? I remember that when I was first assigned an egg drop project (the first of many times) in elementary school, and the first thing everybody thought about was using a parachute (not to mention a cushion of some sort). What does Joey think of first? A Twinkie. And that rubber band elastic idea? That was beyond dumb (especially for adults -- it wouldn't have been so bad if DJ had thought of it herself). They finally wise up and construct a parachute, but my 11-year-old self would not have been impressed.

Joey is in a lot of scenes; almost all of them. Watching Full House must be quite a surreal experience.

I was quite disappointed when I found out (first hand) that David Coulier likes to ply youths with liquor. I felt I had been betrayed by Joey, in a way, as funny as that sounds. I know it was not Joey's fault, but still, I felt like I had been violated by an old, trusted family friend.

In any case, it has not hampered my enjoyment of the show or Joey, the sweet manboy.

I was thinking about the Baby on Dinosaurs. He could be cute and funny when he misbehaves, but when Michelle misbehaves, it's not cute or funny.

Well, I thought Michelle was cute when she was young and acting out, but the problem is that once she was no longer a baby or a toddler, she acted the exact same way. She didn't show one bit of personal growth throughout the series. Of course, I didn't expect her to be incredibly mature because she was only nine or so, but if she's smart enough to make sarcastic remarks to Kimmy and Gia, then she should have been smart enough to realize you don't trade money for donkeys.

I didn't use a parachute. I just packed my egg tightly into a shoebox using newspaper. It survived the plummet, too! But that was a stupid subplot...I don't think the kids really needed three weeks to do that project either. It took me all of ten minutes to figure mine out.



(That sentence makes me want to respond with "Money can be exchanged for goods and services." [/Homer Simpson voice.]) Danny let her get away with anything she damn well pleased...a kid won't mature if you treat them like a spoiled princess for their entire lives. I'm not at all surprised with any of her bratty behavior as an older child.

I always had a problem with this huge continuity error. So Jesse is helping Danny with a V-day dinner for his date. Then Becky gets jealous because Jesse isn't putting any effort into their V-day dinner. Then Jesse and Danny take her outside and there is a hot air balloon, Jesse and Becky are going for a ride on it. It's night time. Then cut to a shot in of a hot air balloon floating in the daytime.

It may be a small error to others, but that always bothered me.

It was a really, really long hot air balloon ride.

Wait. What? Details please.

Ah, the classic Uncle Jesse moves out episode. Damn, that was some melodrama considering he moved two freaking minutes away.
That fake tear dripping down his cheek cracked me up. How on earth Stamos got through that scene I'll never understand.

And when they come back to sleep over the next night, Rebecca says: "I just thought you could use a family reunion." After one night?

Also, there's no way that attic is 1300 square feet. Just sayin'.

The earthquake episode (Aftershocks) is actually being shown just now. I haven't seen this one in ages. I'm still not sure why it's so rarely shown in syndication.

I feel so badly for Stephanie in this one. I mean, the poor kid just lost her mother, what, two or three years ago? You really can't blame her for being scared to lose her father.

Whatever happened to the Comet-naming episode? Did they just cut that scene from that episode?

Yeah, the part where they pick Comet's name was the teaser for an episode, and they cut most of the teasers out of the syndicated versions.

I enjoy that the psychiatrist got to the bottom of Stephanie's problem in about 5 minutes.

To be fair, her problem was relatively obvious.

We the audience don't find out that Danny had been late coming home during the earthquake until late in the episode, but the characters knew about it the whole time. But no, they totally have no idea why Stephanie started clinging to Danny after the earthquake. I mean, it's not like she ever lost a parent before. Oh, wait.

OK - I just searched and couldn't find anything on this, so I apologize if it's been mentioned. Has anyone seen Bob Saget's standup where he talks about fucking Kimmy Gibler and all DJ's other little friends, etc?

Yes. I saw him when he came to my school last year.

He performs fellatio for illicit drugs with that mouth?

This show should be taken off tv for giving people diabetes. I type this as I watch my season 2 DVDs, grin.

One of my favorite episodes was when the delivery boy writes a love note that everyone mistakens for someone else. It never fails to crack me up as the hijinks ensue throughout the entire household and the note gets passed around.

The Little Sid episode was on the other day.

I really, really need to get over how angry that episode makes me, but my blood boils every. Single. Time. It's one thing to give the kid the tiebreaker vote, since the kids were choosing their own reward, but to let her choose whatever the hell she wanted was insane, and then agreeing when she chose a cardboard cut-out of the store owner?!

Danny Tanner was a really shitty dad in a lot of ways.

Delurking to say:
I like this episode too, but it wasn't the delivery boy that wrote the note...it was Rusty, Danny's girlfriend of the moment's son who wrote the note and wanting Michelle to deliver it to DJ so that she would thinks the paper boy wrote it to her. He gives Michelle the instructions to deliver this to your sister and Michelle promptly gives it to Stephanie (Michelle was following the directions...Rusty didn't specify which sister) and Stephanie thinks its a love note from Rusty to her...THEN the hilarity ensues.
.....I don't watch Full House too much...I swear. (Looks around inoccently)

I knew that off the top of my head too, actually. A bit sad, but what can I say? At least I'm well-versed in something. Even if it is Full House trivia.

Were Rusty and his mother intended to become series regulars? Were they written off properly or did they just disappear? I can't remember ever learning where they went.

They just disappeared, which is too bad. I really liked them, but I suppose they didn't want the house that full at that point.

There is no such thing as a too-full Full House. There is always room for more!

I also liked the Rusty and his mother storyline, I thought it was weird that Danny could never be in a relationship on the show. They really screwed Joey over like that too!

It was just Jesse and Becky for so long! I guess with Danny he eventually got with Vicky but she was kind of bland.

I'm just glad that they didn't keep Joey with that comic who sounded like she was talking through her nose or had a helium tank in her car....the one who made all the mean jokes about the family? She annoyed me.
It was weird that Danny couldn't keep a relationship. Rusty's mom...Gia's mom...I'm sure there are more but I can't recall them right now. Along with Danny's weird penchant for cleanliness, he also must be pretty bad in the sack because nobody stayed around for too long.
I don't think I'd like to date Joey either, his stupid impressions are NOT funny (and we all know nothing is worse than dating a man who thinks he's hilarious when he's really only funny to people on a 2nd grade level).

BWAH! Or maybe they all got tired of competing against Queen Michelle.

Ha! Michelle's character was so obnoxious that last season. By the last two episodes when she lost her memory, I was kind of rooting for it not to come back at all.



Knowing him he'd be remaking the bad before the afterglow could even start to fade.

Brain. Bleach. Now.

In the scene in the hospital where the guys realize Michelle's memory is gone, I always try to will them to pretend they don't know her and make a run for it and leave her there.

Ha. Didn't you always just want to go back and give her horse a carrot?

As a young equestrienne, it always pissed me off that Michelle left the horse TIED UP AND WAITING while Danny took her off to the mall for fancy riding clothes. At best, mean, at worst, dangerous.

She should've been horsewhipped for that. Hee! Very bad pun.

How is that the Olsen twins got so into the forefront of the series? I saw somewhere that Jody was supposed to be the breakout star, but somehow it became all about Michelle. Pushy stage parents (Mr. & Mrs. Olsen)? Jeff Franklin? Whatever, there was just way too much emphasis on her character.

I always figured it was b/c Stephanie grew out of her cute-kid phase as she got older and so they bumped Michelle into that mold. I hate that the show became Michelle-centric the last what, four or five seasons.

Too long, for sure. Using twins too, so two chances at a kid that can act, and neither one could. What's weird is how she got so much worse. She/they were better actresses as babies, than later on. The last episode where she loses her memory, she comes home and the girls say something and she says something in return that makes them ask, "do you remember us?" and she answers, "aren't you the nice people I met in the hospital?" It sounded as if she was reading it straight off the cue card. Bad.
"Ar-en-t you the nice peo-ple..." bad. I'd like to meet the marketing genius that put them in all those videos and somehow amassed that kind of money for them.

I always thought Stephanie was the superior actress - regardless of what age. They could have done a lot more with her later on, but like you said, went with the Michelle cute factor instead.

I heard the same thing, but I think it was because Baby Michelle became really popular amongst audiences. I think I also heard that they were planning on writing the baby off the show, but the audience loved her so much that she stayed on and thus, was born the brat that would become Michelle.

To me, Michelle Tanner is one of the worst characters in sitcom history. I hated how she always got her way and never got in trouble. Is it wrong of me to love the episode where Steve fake-marries her and gets her hopes all up, only for her to find out the wedding was fake and cry up the stairs?

It is never, ever wrong to derive happiness from Michelle's misery.

Two instances of the Michelle Is The Queen Of The House thing that always make my blood boil: The oft-mentioned solving of D.J. and Stephanie's feud over what to get from Big Sid's store by picking that stupid cardboard cutout, and Danny not overriding that ridiculous choice; and the family deciding not to sell the house to Bond, Lou Bond, because Michelle doesn't want to move. I hate that! Why do they give that little twerp so much power? Boo hoo, this is the only house she's ever lived in and she doesn't want to leave. She was only seven then; trust me, she'd have gotten over it and forgotten all about that house.

I love this sentence.

I noticed this, too. In later episodes her acting is just so bad I just want to scream. The one episode that always bugs me is when Michelle makes the Nicky and Alex her slaves or something and then the boys are mad at her (I could be mixing up episodes here). But Michelle wants the boys to play with her and they keep calling her 'Mean Michelle' (tee hee!) and everyone wants the boys to forgive her. Of course, they can't because they don't know what forgive means and Michelle starts explaining it to them and she does this weird nod thing through the whole speech.
Just overacting or something, but she nods a lot when she is speaking in later episodes and it drive.me.crazy!
I liked her better as a baby and also as a toddler but as a little kid she was just plain annoying.

Yeah, I know what you mean, and she always gives these giant pauses through that "Forgiveness means..." speech. Gah, I can't stand that kid.

I forgot to add in my post that my favorite line to quote to my boyfriend when I'm mad at him is, "That was mean, Steve. Really mean." Of course, you have to say it with no emotion and flat delivery to really get the full Michelle effect. Man, I love that episode! I have it saved on TiVo forever and ever.

LMAO! And so true.

A "Queen Michelle" eppy that always bugs me is when the whole family is flying somewhere on vacation and of course Michelle has the run of the whole plane, practically. Don't remember the specifics, except that she pulled some man's toupee off. And of course everyone on the plane was "oohing" and "aahing" over what a cute, adorable child she was being.

Did anyone else ever want to bitch-slap Danny, Jesse and Joey for kowtowing to the kid all the time? And I'm sorry, but I always thought the twins, when babies, looked like Troll dolls. Hee!

Oh yeah, Danny and the rest def. let Michelle get away with anything. If I would call my uncle names like she did with Jesse when she called him "Uncle Tattletale" or whatever the hell she called him...I would have been slapped so hard or gotten my butt beat. Michelle does it and Danny doesn't even stop to correct her. Stephanie and DJ never got that treatment...but then again Stephanie and DJ didn't act like spoiled queen brats either.
Michelle was def. the spoiled little sister/brat.

Two of my least favorite Michelle moments:

(1) Jesse and Rebecca are preparing to christen their new apartment. Michelle barges in, wanting to play.
Fair enough. But when they gently but firmly ask her to leave them alone she pretends not to know what they mean and refuses to leave. Jesse has to literally pick her up and carry her out. The little brat goes whining to Joey, who despite knowing full well what Jesse and Rebecca are doing, BRINGS HER BACK--and by this point, Jesse and Rebecca were genuinely pissed off.

(2) Stephanie is preparing to rehearse "Romeo and Juliet" with a boy that she has a crush on. Despite having been REPEATEDLY asked to leave them alone so that they can practice, Michelle comes barging back into the room, making nasty comments about Stephanie's "dry lips" and telling the boy about her crush. Stephanie tells her off and then storms out. Michelle doesn't even have the decency to TRY and apologize, she just sits there snarking "dry lips must make people cranky."

What an utterly hateful little BITCH.

That was "Boss Hogg" himself, Sorrell Booke.

Info on Our Very First Christmas Show.

And for all he knew, they could very well have already "started" by then. Michelle could have, uh, heard stuff, bringing her right to the door again. Inappropriate city.

While we're on this subject...did anyone else think that Gia and her mother were potentially to be regulars if the show were to have made a 10th season? I use the kissing party episode as an example..and it would have been interesting because Gia and Michelle DEFINATELY didnt like each other...

I hate this show with the fury of a thousand hot burning suns, yet this particular idea has bugged me for YEARS.

Gia should be given an award for seeing through Michelle's crap.