Weren't the Season 1 DVDs supposed to have an episode of Step by Step and another show? Mine don't seem to have them.

Hah! I smell a beautiful, beautiful spin-off.



My sister and I used to sardonically quote that to each other so often. "All this time I thought you were laughing with me. Now I know you were laughing at me." Ugh.

I've been shamefully indulging in this show during the afternoons. Did y'all catch Wil Wheaton as DJ's crush the other day? I'm not a fan of WW at all; I think he's overrated and a so-so writer. I enjoyed seeing a pudgy teen Wil with a mullet. (So says the vaguely pudgy girl writing this post, but let's just ignore that fact. At least I don't have a mullet.)

Or at the very least, some fabulous fanfic.

Oh, thank you, I thought I was the only one.

I also loved the finale scenario posted above.

I don't think the bwuddas were turning into brats ala Michelle. Quite the opposite. I think they were spineless, introverted, developmentally-challenged children who would never escape the "full house," let alone learn the basic communication skills to talk with anybody other than themselves.

Jessie was just a shitty, shitty parent. Rebecca tried, bless her, but when she was at work it would always be Joey who played the part of the mommy with Jessie, or Danny would whisk them away into the bathtub for some uncle/nephew splash time. In my opinion, she had no idea what she was marrying in to.

But doesn't one have to be rated before they're overrated? Wil Wheaton just hasn't made much of a blip on the radar since he left TNG.

I don't know why they did it, but Nick at Night seems to have snubbed FH in their marathons recently. [Note to NaN: I've seen every episode of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, and I don't need to see it in long blocks every single night; but I do, however, need to see FH every night. It's obsessive compulsive, and you must indulge me.] It doesn't really matter though, since summer is over and I'll have no time for night viewings once school rolls around once again (senior year yea!). Thank God for afternoons at 4!

Wait... Wil Wheaton was on Full House?! How did I miss this? I've seen every episode of this dumb show... and while I'm ambivalent about Wheaton, I did post somewhat frequently on his message board a few years ago because I liked the "soapbox." I can't believe I missed that he was on Full House!

Which episode? I can vaguely picture pudgy teen boys with mullets on the show... but only vaguely...

Whoops, wait a minute. It's possible I'm insane. Apparently DJ's crush was played by this guy, who (in my defense!) bears a striking resemblance to a young Wil. I'm sorry for any confusion and chaos I may've caused in the Wil Wheaton community. ;)

Slightly more on topic: How 'bout those Olsen twins? Eh? Eh? Sorry, I got nothin'.

I hated when Michelle ran out of flowers during the wedding, and Danny said to everyone "But isn't she an incredible flower girl anyway?" or something. Oh yes, let's all talk about how incredible Michelle is.

The only thing that was good about the later seasons was Vicky. I hate how TPTB took her off because "it would ruin the image of the show."

How exactly would she ruin the image of the show? I'm lost on this one, is giving the image that a man who has lost his wife due to death finding love again and giving his daughters a new woman in their life who can fill all the motherly aspects that even though Danny trying as hard as he could, even dressing in drag, could not? She was a welcome addition to the show, and I was upset that she did leave.

Jeff Franklin said on the THS that it would change the image too much of a single father raising three girls. That image needed to be changed anyway!

Especially at that point. DJ was pretty much through high school Steph was heading there and Michelle was at the point of being the average kid (though spoiled). God forbid if a man should find some happiness in his life with someone else instead of being moron dad until the grandkids came in.

If Vicky stayed there would be no logical reason to keep Jesse and Joey in the house to help raise the kids.

Just noticed, I am now a Loyal Viewer. Yeah me!

a) There was no logical reason anyway, once the girls were out of diapers and Jesse had gotten married and had his own kids.

b) Therefore, they could have gotten away with keeping them all in the house anyway, especially if Vicky was going to be working full-time and flying out to journalism assignments a lot.

This is the show that taught us that full grown men should be content to live in living room alcoves and have pink bunnies on their walls. Not exactly a beacon for reality.

Sadly, I've recently acquired the troubling habit of basing my perception of what normal suburban/urban American life should be on the Full House world. Of course, I often try to impress upon myself that basing my expectations for life on an ABC sitcom is not a prudent choice. It's an everyday internal battle, people. lol.

Jesse, maybe, because he was living in his "efficiency" attic apartment with his wife and kids. But there was never a logical reason for Joey to be there. He wasn't family, and he didn't even do that much to help out. All he did is tag along with Jesse on one failed business venture after another. I remember an episode where some relatives came to visit & Stephanie introduced them to Joey- she said "This is Joey! He makes funny voices and lives in the basement! Do your Bullwinkle!" I thought that was hysterical, because that's Joey in a nutshell.

Wanna bet Danny spent years secretly wishing he had an excuse to make Joey move out, but could never find one that wouldn't result in him looking like a bad guy?

I never liked Vicky anyway, so I didn't mind them getting rid of her.


I re-saw an episode recently where Joey is telling his father how proud he should be that he's helping Danny raise his kids and doing something different with his life. I'm sorry, but how could a father be proud that his grown son is living with another man and helping that man raise his kids? And that he made a career of doing Bulwinkle voices? (and not as a job for like a tv show, but as stand up comedy) I mean, seriously. Joey had to be the world's biggest loser and I don't understand why he couldn't see that.


Hee, Brn2bwild, I have always thought this. I always wanted there to be some episode where Danny decides he's tired of all these people in his house and has to decide how to tell Joey to get the heck out. I always wanted Danny to make him move back into the alcove. Then maybe he'd get the hint.

Also, I bet if FH was a current show, there'd be some epsiode about how some kid in DJ, Steph, or Michelle's class started a fight with one of them by calling their father gay.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record...anyone else smell a fic there? Anyone? C'mon, anyone at all?

I just saw that episode where Jesse has a cold and takes four cold pills because he doesn't want to sound stuffed-up on the radio. I can actually relate to Jesse because I am battling a cold right now and have to talk on the radio every day, and it really doesn't sound very pretty when you're talking all stuffed up.

I was going to take four cold pills but now that I know it can make me fall asleep in the middle of my show like what happened to Jesse, I won't take them after all. I wouldn't want my annoying family to come in and sabotage my show (which of course Joey and Jesse didn't get in trouble for at all... HATE to their unrealistic radio station!!)

How cool that Full House has helped prevent some real-life problems! *grin*
I was trying to figure out what about the kid on Medium (Maria Lark is her name, I think) annoys me so much (well, she "acts" like a robot with a head cold, but there was something specific) and I got it: she reminds me, with her wooden, congested manner of speaking, of the bwuddas.

I know several dads who could be proud of their son finding a man and raising kids with him. But none of them have to deal with Danny Taylor as a son-in-law, which I think would count as cruel and unusual.

Again, as always, Michelle was the first consideration in the ep when the adults were trying to pick a place for dinner.

Danny~"Not Chinese, because Michelle doesn't like it."

I wonder if Michelle did like Chinese food, but DJ or Steph didn't, if Danny would've said the same thing? Also, Chinese menus are so extensive. I can't believe there wouldn't be a couple things at least that she could have eaten-and liked. How about won ton soup? An eggroll? Argh, I'm letting this show get to me!

Heh, I remember that one. But IIRC, it wasn't the food she didn't like, it was the dead ducks she saw hanging in a Chinatown window that freaked her out. Which I can kind of understand, but still.

Wasn't the only thing Michelle ever wanted to eat for dinner chocolate cake? I remember she threw a fit in that idiotic episode where they went to the seafood restaurant for "family fun night."

Bitch, even when I was your age I knew I needed more than chocolate cake. She probably has diabetes by now.

Today the "Hole in the Wall Gang" episode was on. I can't say that I remember ever having seen this one, and if I have, it's been a long, long time. And I must say, I love how oblivious Danny was, and especially the fact that Stephanie and DJ didn't get in trouble and receive some long-winded discourse on the principles of not fighting with a pole from their father's closet.

BWAH!



I agree. She didn't seem very in love to me. It always seemed like Danny was more into her than she was him.

I'm so glad I found this thread and learned that I'm not the only person who thinks that Michelle was a terribly spoiled brat.

I started watching the show as an adult. If Danny Tanner were a real person, I would be about eight years older than him. I remember a flashback scene in which he was a college student, and he displayed a photo of DJ, who appeared to be about two years old, so it is consistent that she was born when he was nineteen.
Also, I remember him saying in one episode that his last date was the high school prom, so it is consistent that he and Pam eloped right after high school graduation. What I don't get, though, is that in one episode, he referred to his great-grandfather fighting in the Civil War. As I said, I am a number of years older than him, and my great-grandparents were born in 1860 and 1862.

Yes, that's true. I guess I just like ragging on Michelle!

Count me in as another one who didn't care much for Vicky. She always seemed kind of "meh" about being there. Then again, who can blame her?

OK, going back to the food topic again.....How about when the Stephanie & Michelle were paid by Danny to eat Vicki's dinner of goat cheese pizza & past al pesto? Did the guy ever do anything right as a dad? For someone that's so into expecting good behavior from his kids, that's just so wrong. There's no way in hell my parents would ever have done that; we would've been told to keep quiet and eat it. And the kids were kind of rude-didn't they make it obvious that they didn't like the food instead of just keeping their mouths shut? Oh and I don't remember noticing-did Steve eat without complaining, being that he ate everything in the house every time he was there?

And wasn't this the same episode that Danny lectured Jesse about his kids being out of control?

I doubt it. It's Michelle Favoritism rearing its ugly head. Just like in the episode where D.J. has tickets to the Counting Crows concert and both she and Stephanie are thrilled. Danny wants to take away Stephanie's ticket and give it to Michelle because "it's Michelle's turn." (to do something fun) What the hell kind of rule is that? The little brat didn't even know who the Counting Crows are! Let's turn the tables. Let's say they got tickets to some kiddie concert that Michelle was dying to see. Would Danny take away Michelle's ticket if it was Stephanie's "turn"? Hell no.

It was always Michelle's turn to do something fun! Who is Danny kidding?

I think Danny secretly hated Stephanie. He didn't do jack for her, after all.

Don't say that! She could have had it a lot worse. She could have run into a door... a door named dad.

If this was real life DJ and Stephanie would have gone through years of therapy to try to get over the favored child Michelle.

Bwah! That really needs to go on a shirt. It's probably the only line on the show that made me laugh for real. (rather than an "Oh my gawd how stupid" laugh which I did with all the other lines)

I didn't watch the show during its original run; I started watching it on Family & Nick. It's a guilty pleasure; I try not to admit that I watch it now. Hee, hee. It's so bad that's it's good-if that makes sense. Anyhow, it's a great show for snarking.

Actually, I think they had one good episode. It was the one about a letter mix-up that every member of the family received, thinking it was for them, and it involved a lot of confusion. Wasn't it that little bratty kid Rodney-was that his name?-that was responsible for it?

His name was Rusty. And yes, that was one of the funnier episodes, lol.

It's okay. You're among friends here. I used to be mortified at myself for watching the show, but now that I have this place to snark and discuss, it's all good.

Last night I saw that God-awful hockey episode where Michelle gets scared of Joey when he becomes a meanie on the ice. He then ASKS HER PERMISSION if he could be an inbetweeny. I forgot, though, that this is the land where all things revolve around Michelle so of course he'd have to ask her permission to do something he wanted to do. If that had been me, I would've been told that if I didn't like the way he played, I should stay home.

Michelle is the best Tanner ever. And how dare you say she looked like trolls and shit when she was a baby. I bet your mothers looked like apes when they were babies.

Kind of a shallow pool she's swimming in don't you think?

A shallow pool she brought into the kitchen, no doubt.

Have the Olsen twins ever commented on the character of Michelle in hindsight? I would love to hear a commentary w/the two of them plus Candice and Jodie on future box sets, like the last few seasons when the twins kinda took over. Think of the snark factor b/c you know the twins probably loathe the characterization now that they can look back as the billionaires that they are.

I choked on my food from laughing so hard. Thanks No Touching

What's sad, is that is the only episode where I can remember there being any true Michelle smackdown. Not to mention that the smackdown came only with some real prodding from D.J. and Stephanie ("Just remember your foot is wet").

If it weren't for his two teenage daughters, Michelle would have given the puppy face and a kiss on the cheek and all would be forgiven. No wonder she turned out to be such an insufferable brat.

Was that the same episode she wanted to stay up and eat fried chicken while she watched "Arsenios"? I do not advocate spanking, but that is one instance where Danny needed to get his discipline on and bring out the spank.

Hee! But even then, you know there would have been a VSE where Danny was all contrite, with Jesse and Joey sitting him down to say they are disappointed in him. Then Danny would go apologize to the monkey and she would say something cute (read: smartass), like" That's ok Daddy. Just don't let it happen again!" Then they would hug as the music swelled.

Oh, man, I think the rest of us just got the smackdown that Michelle always deserved. My whole world is askew.

Ahh, that's OK, my mother did kind of look like an ape as a baby but then noone was putting her face on TV! A nice big hat took care of her. Meanwhile, I was paying to watch that kind of ugly with those troll kids!