Word. I agree. "Uncle Jesse doesnt like me anymore"

I wonder what percentage of episodes Danny starts his end-of-the-episode-talks with "Oh...so that's what this is about."

And word on the Michelle hate. I would've given that brat up for adoption.

It's funny because my entire family hated Michelle even when the show was first run. She was cute the first few seasons as an actual baby, but after that..woo boy, welcome to the suck zone. I remember during the episode when they lost her at Disneyland, my Mom was all "Leave her there!"

I also remember a Tracy Ullman quote in TV Guide during the original Olsen Mania circa early 90's in which she said something to the effect of "I don't see why everyone loves them...they're not cute, they look like monkeys!" Hee. So mean, but damn Tracy rules. Not that I generally advocate adults making fun of 5 year olds, but she gets a pass.

The episode where D.J. forgets Kimmy's 16 birthday was on today. The part that always drives me nuts is when they didn't have a cake, so they defrosted some hash browns or something and poured ketchup over it. WTF? Couldn't they have just rushed out to a bakery or a grocery store that's open late and grab a cake? Or some cupcakes? Or even a pile of cookies? They live in San Francisco, for crying out loud. There are tons of late night eating establishments on every corner. I know, I know, I'm overthinking it.

No, you're not. It was truly foul the way they treated Kimmy. And on top of all that, DJ had the nerve to accuse her of being jealous of DJ's relationship. Kimmy should have punched her in her "Charlie Brown cheeks".

I felt so bad for Kimmy in that episode. She looked so sad and hurt when DJ accused her of being jealous. I'd never really hated DJ before, but I hated her at that moment. I wish Kimmy had punched her, too. Better yet, I wish she had picked up Michelle and swung her like a baseball bat at DJ, knocking them both out. That would've been a great ending to that show.

I remember that episode! I seriously just Googled up a picture of Charlie Brown - what the hell was DJ talking about?

Heh. I think that was mentioned in the episode where DJ had an "eating disorder" <rolls eyes><rolls eyes some more><rolls eyes until they fall out> when she went on a little self-deprecation jag, looking at some magazine and failing to find one girl with "this round face and these Charlie Brown cheeks".

When she wasnt even 'fat' *rolls eyes* And word on the jealousy thing. If I were Kimmy, I would seriously slap the crap out of her.

Heh. And wasn't she wearing some sort of formal shorts?

That would have been the best thing ever. Kimmy really was a good character (except for when they made her unbelievably dumb), I can see her doing something that awesome.

Jodie Sweetin looked much better when they pulled back her bangs, which they did mostly in the Season 5-6 episodes. The bangs started looking stupid once she got older.

Also, the ending to "Honey, I Broke The House", the one where Stephanie drives Joey's car through the kitchen wall, seemed pretty sad to me, or else Jodie Sweetin is just really good with sad scenes. But from when I last saw it, it seemed like this:

Danny: How long are you going to stay under there?
Stephanie: Until I get married.
Danny: It's going to be very hard to find someone under there.
*Stephanie comes out*
Danny: This is the stupidest thing you've ever done in a while. (or something to that extent)
*A conversation that I don't really remember goes on*
Stephanie: Then you'd stop hugging me, or kissing me...
Danny: There's nothing you could do that would ever make me stop hugging or kissing you.
*A little bit more that I don't remember is said*
Stephanie: *still crying* I love you, Daddy.

I don't like the way Danny goes from "This is the stupidest thing you've ever done" and then immediately to the mushy (albeit creepy) lines. Stephanie obviously wasn't okay during those times (like Aftershocks), so I think both her and DJ (and definitely Michelle in the later seasons) should have gone to regular counseling.

Or when they made her annoying beyond reason. Let's not forget the bagpiple playing with the giant muppet oscar the ostrage in the backyard.

That ostrich was GOLD. It was so tacky and clearly fake..it makes me laugh just thinking about it.

When I was younger, I thought that thing was real, but the whole ostrich thing cracks my shit up everytime

The ostrich episode made me ashamed that I was still watching the show. The last season as a whole was a shitfest, but that "B" story was the worst ever. I can't even remember the "A" story of that episode, or was it the ostrich? I just remember Jesse trying to relax because of his blood pressure - I managed to avoid that episode since the original airing.

OH MY GOD. Are you people aware that Mary Kate Olsen's boyfriend (you know...the giant with the long, curly, blond man-shag) is named...wait for it...STAVROS? I can't believe we missed this!

Unfortunately, he does not have an enormous, ethnic-stereotype-ish nose, nor a giant hairy mole. Maybe he talks in that oily, super-feta-cheesy accent though.

Oh, I read about that a couple months ago and forgot to post it! That has to be one of the most disturbing things I've heard in a while. I wish he looked like FH Stavros though, because that would be even more fun to mock.

I always thought twins looked like monkeys too! Glad someone else thinks it.

Does anyone else think in the 8th season of Full House that the show had clearly morphed into a moderately separate entity, semi-autonomous of Full House, known as the "Michelle Show" for the most part? I like to refer to this television phenomenon as the "Steve Urkel syndrome", due to Family Matters perfecting it through the show's becoming centered almost entirely on Steve and his antics very early on in the series and to such a great extent.

I'm convinced, however, that Full House never carried it off so badly as other series. It's really sad that there were so many wasted opportunities for good character development and fresh situations for D.J. and especially Stephanie that the writers just completely passed up in order to cater to hackneyed and sometimes plain silly plots for Michelle.

How many seasons of Full House were there?

There were 8 seasons. I was tempted to say that the "Michelle Show" started some where in the seventh season, but it wasn't that Michelle-centered yet at that point.

[I]Edited because "somewherein" shouldn't be one word, lol.

Looking back on the earlier episodes, I'm not surprised that DJ turned out as fucking perfect as she did. She was really the only one who was consistently punished, and regularly asked to shoulder responsibility. At age twelve, she was looking after her sisters, helping her dad in court, doing chores, making dinner ... She was helping to run the house before she hit her teens because Danny, Joey and Jesse were even more clueless in the early days. DJ was a better parent at twelve than the guys were when they were in their thirties. Pathetic.

I actually think in the first season, they were establishing D.J. as the problem child traumitized by her mother's death. They had her moving into the basement, skipping school, and so on. Of course, the first season was so different in terms of characterizations. Danny wasn't a neat-freak neurotic, Joey was more of a fun-loving child at heart than the creepy basement dwelling social reject who communicates as a cartoon moose, Jesse wasn't afraid to bring women into the house and wasn't the buffoonish metrosexual he became, and Michelle wasn't a total unwavering bitch who felt like she had an entitlement to everything in her path.

The episode I saw yesterday had Jesse bringing home wedding cake samples. There had to be maybe about 10 samples of different types of chocolate cake (and one slice of carrot cake). Michelle could not of course contain herself and crawled across the table and started ramming the pieces of cake into her mouth. The adults surrounding her, of course, laughed. WTF?!? I have a 2 yeard old son, if he did something like that, I can assure you we would not laugh off the behavior.

Oh gosh yes. And so do lots of others, from what I read on the boards.



Too funny! LOL!

Word! Joey was more of a creepy pedophile to me (although he wasn't) by the end of the series. Proof? The infamous episode where Joey gets a pizza delivered to him naked in a bubble bath as a teenaged Stephanie and D.J. look on.

The last season of this show was horrible but I initially watched it because I was 8 and it appealed to me. But by the time it ended when I was 16, I simply watched it out of devotion and it was also a guilty pleasure of mine. Still is.

Word on the Michelle eating the cake samples. I'm not even close to being a parent but if I was, Michelle would've been slapped, among other things.

If the show had run longer, Stephanie probably would've been GLAD to leave the house when she reached college-age.

I was watching season 6 reruns the other day. I never realized how much gay innuendo there is. Oh, and does anyone else play the "Is it Mary Kate or is it Ashley game"? Just me? Okay, I'll go to the "Needs a Life" corner........

Ha! But it's true...he used to be almost endearing back then, and you could understand why the kids, especially Stephanie, would love him.

The Michelle/cake incident still pisses me off. Those were samples for people to select their wedding cake! And at that age, she was old enough to say "Can I have some?" and not start cramming food into her mouth.


To me, that says less "pedophile" and more "disturbingly underdeveloped man-child." "Pedophile" was Danny bathing with his brother-in-law's two-year-old twins.

My mom is a Michelle fan (she can hardly keep herself from aww-ing whenever the brat is on the screen) and even she said that she'd have smacked the kid during the cake sample scene (actually, she said that she'd have spanked me if I had tried that, but smacking Michelle sounds so much better).

Monkeys, or troll dolls.



Or "Can I have some, please?" Oh, how the blood boils.

No doubt followed by "Don't you love me anymore?"

If I was Danny, I would have viewed Michelle as a result of Jesse and Joey's horrible parenting and kicked them to the curb. Given how normal Stephanie was at 5-year old Michelle's age, I think the blame could be squarely placed on those two (and Danny) indulging the little brat at every turn. Pam Tanner must have been the only thing keeping that family from descending into the anarchy that eventually overtook it.

From the looks of things, I think Nicky and Alex were turning out even shittier, but that's what you get when you make your kids grow up in an attic due to the whimsy of your five-year old niece.

Yeah, except why in the hell should Joey and Jesse be parenting his kids in the first place? They're HIS KIDS.
I don't remember Nicky and Alex being overly bratty except in that one episode that was built around their being bratty, but then, Michelle eventually learned to speak properly.

Exactly. The bwuddas, I think, would most likely turn out to be like extreme versions of Buster from Arrested Development. 30-somethings still living in that attic and still clinging to their parents, but not even able to talk (besides saying things like "I wuv you, bwudda" and "mean daddy!").

Meanwhile, I have no doubt Michelle would have made Danny sign the lease to the house over to her, and he, Joey, and Jessie would act as her serfs in exchange for the three of them all living in the alcove. Rebecca would be in the attic to take care of the bwuddas, but she would never be allowed to leave. She would have likely kicked both D.J. and Stephanie out and disowned them from the family, while she would have had Kimmy Gibbler shot. There can only be one head female of that household.

If the character Michelle was on a show today can you imagine what would happen to her? Oh, the carnage.

JMO, not such a bad thing.

Aw, I liked Gibbler! Mainly because it was nice to see someone be snarky to the Tanners.

I can understand your reasoning McKay but she irked me right along with all the other characters.

Oh, she was annoying all right. But I found her the least offensive of the bunch.

I loved Kimmy. Really, she was the only character I didn't want to set loose on a pack of starving lions. Come to think of it, I liked Rebecca too. But the rest of them can work their way through kitty intestinal tract.

I love Becky too. Her and Stephanie are the most normal out of the bunch. I never really thought Nicky and Alex were brats, but they were brought in too late in the series for me to make a conclusion on that. They seemed like plot devices brought in because Michelle was getting older.

D.J. and Stephanie probably wouldn't have minded to be kicked out of the house. I know I wouldn't want to really be around my dad if hypothetically, he had a third child, and he favored her waaaaay over the other kids.

I caught the episode where Joey finally realized everyone has been laughing at him this whole time, and he said he doesn't feel like a part of the family anymore. Um, maybe because he's not part of the family. He is a pathetic 30something struggling to hold onto dreams of becoming a comedian. The fact that he has no steady job and basically sucks at life makes me wonder why Danny is practically supporting him and letting him live in his house. He can't be a very good role model for anyone besides Michelle, because I see a similar situation for her in the future.

I always hated the way that they ended this show. Michelle loses her memory and then it comes back? That was a load of crap.

Here's my rundown on how it should have ended.

1. Becky gets offered a job in Los Angeles, and she and Jesse struggle over whether to take the job or not. She decides to, and Jesse has to deal with leaving, but eventually he decides that Danny doesn't need his help anymore, and he needs to just raise his own family.

2. Joey decides to go back to doing stand-up comedy, and moves to New York so he can be near The Comedy Club and Saturday Night Live.

3. After Steve takes DJ to the prom, he wants to get back together, but she decides that they broke up for a reason, and she doesn't want to be tied down. Then she moves away to college.

4. Stephanie and Michelle both want to move into the apartment upstairs, and in the end, Danny gives it to Stephanie and tells Michelle that it's time that Stephanie got her way, for once. And then he tells Michelle that she's spoiled, and that the three men shouldn't have treated her like a princess, and that things are going to be different from now on. Ending shot: Michelle's face in utter shock and horror.

I am still laughing after reading that line. I really don't see a woman agreeing to move out of her own house and move into an attic so her new husband can live with his little niece but this was Full House.

Michelle Rides Again wasn't supposed to be the series finale. Maybe a season finale, but as a series one, it sucked. Though you can blame it on the Olsens for the cancelling of the show. They both got paid $120k an episode? Yeah, paying BOTH of them that much was worth it.

I like your ending ideas, gracie18. It'd be hilarious to see Michelle's face after she's told she's a spoiled brat.

Yes, yes! Troll dolls-that's what I've always thought.

LMAO! And you're right on the money with that.

Nicky & Alex didn't bother me so much, but those hideous hairstyles had to go.
I remember the one when Jesse got all freaked out when they finally took them to the barbershop for their 1st haircut, with Joey playing the demented barber.

I hated how idiotic Jesse acted about the boys' hair. They were mistaken for girls, yet he insisted on leaving their hair the way it was. I never understood what his deal was. It's not like he didn't have his own hair cut.

I don't know if anyone has seen the news yet, but "they" are coming out with the Full House Season 2 dvd set. From what I understand, the only extra which has been spoken of is a trivia game in the dvd's. I was really hoping that they'd have cast interviews and/or commentary this time; maybe next time, I suppose. O, the set is coming out December 6th, right in time for Christmas! And at least the cover artwork is a big improvement over Season 1 (of course, I'm talking in relativistic terms, for Season 1 had some of the cheesiest artwork I've encountered).

Woo! I was hoping we'd get a date for the Season 2 set.

I'd like cast interviews too. We need a True Hollywood Story that didn't turn into the Olsen twins' story in the last hour.

Heeeee. Well, when you put it that way...yeah, I liked both of them, too. At least enough to not want to feed them to hungry big cats. I really liked Stephanie when she was younger, too.
Comet, however, will always be my favorite Tanner.