Ah the Frankie and Annette episode. Why would Danny spray a card with lemon Pledge? I still don't understand that.

Same reason some guys spray letters with cologne I guess.
I haven't a fucking clue, in other words.

I still can't believe that Tommy Paige is real.

Tommy Paige is real??! Wow, freakshow! The "Wooooohoooo Stephanie" song was one of the worst songs I ever heard. In keen competition with the "MICHelle's smiling"-song.

Word. I really enjoyed TOAK- at times it was pretty funny & clever. Heh I remember in the 1st episode, Carrie teaches the girls poker, and one of 'ems like "but I had two of a kind!" and the other twin says "yeah, but nothing beats a full house!" *wink*

TOAK was a funny show - funnier than a lot of current sitcoms. But I hated "So Little Time." It was too trendy and cheesy, but I did covet a lot of the clothes the girls wore.

Yesterday, I saw the episode where Jesse's obnoxious cousin from Greece visits. *shudder* What a slimy, gross character, and I hate episodes where a horrible relative someone is close to comes to visit but the person closest to him or her doesn't notice, but people who have known the obnoxious relative for two seconds do. Whatever.

Bob Saget was the guest host for The Late Late Show tonight, and for some odd reason, his main guest was John Stamos. It was funny yet very creepy to hear Uncle Jesse tell stories about getting drunk and how Bob would inhale whipped cream aeresol before tapings.

A good quote from the interview:
John: "You were terrible on that show."
Bob: "Well...you had a mullet, dude."

Oh and Bob called his character "Joey" at one point in the interview.

I was home sick from work the past two days and got to see a few episodes. One was where Papouli dies (the grandfather from Greece). Of course Papouli’s death turns into the Michelle show. Michelle was devastated, plus Papouli was supposed to do a Greek dance for her class in a few days. Uncle Jesse saved the day by doing her Greek dance with her at school. This episode also showed off the fine acting skills of John Stamos, breaking down after Papouli’s death *snicker*

The other episode featured Joey in tights. BWAH! Stephanie was teaching him ballet. He claimed it was to help his hockey game. Riiiight.

Doesnt every show turn into the Michelle Show?

Joey? In tights? *shudder* That's an image I don't want to see!

I remember the episode when Michelle's friend Teddy came back and her class had to do a project where you do a life size drawing of your best friend. Michelle made Teddy and her new friend, Denise, give her stuff for the PRIVILAGE of being the person most deserving of being Michelle's best friend. Eventually Teddy and Denise were like "Screw this bitch" and they did they project with each other instead.

Later on Michelle did hers on the dog and was like, "I wouldn't have had to draw the dog if you two hadn't abandoned me."

Haaate.

I like the episode about michelle suckin' up the soccer field. she scores a goal for the opposing team, and everyone on the team gets pissed. at the end of the show, michelle learns to laugh at her anguish! and deal with the fact that she sucks at soccer! dont give up! keep scorin' for the wrong team!

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I hate this episode so much, I cringe! I hated the way Michelle made Teddy and Denise give her things to be her best friend.A pencil case and a Texas choker?

Another episdoe that makes me cringe: The Might Morphant Super Kids Club or whatever. She blabs the secret name, gets kicked out and blames her dad-well, you shouldnt of told him, sweetie!

The "human pudding" episode is on right now. If this were reality instead of EatManZitiLand there's no way Stephanie Tanner would get a date...she's the biggest nerd that's not actually supposed to be a nerd [note how she doesn't have glasses and a pocket protector to tell us that] on a sitcom! Why would anyone want to hang out with her? And those scowly faces she makes, yikes! On what planet would she and Gia actually become friends? As if Gia would "break down" and admit her sad tale of woe as a bad kid and they'd become bestest friends. This show might single-handedly be responsible for my warped views of the world as a child. Damn those Tanners.

Yeah, 90% of the episodes, especially of the last seasons. This has always bothered me. Why always Michelle? The show had plenty of characters to focus on. But no, it had to be just little Michelle. After a while, It was boring.

Didn't she have glasses at some point?


Were we honestly supposed to feel any sympathy for that snotty little brat?

I never had sympathy for the little devil. One of my most hate-filled moments was when Joey scored two tickets to the Counting Crows for Steph and D.J. and somehow Michelle wound up going to the concert instead of one of them. (I forget who missed out). She didn't even know who the band was, she kept saying the Counting Cows or the Counting Cars. And Danny was all, hey she should go, it's only fair.

HATE! Because no, Danny. It was not fair at all to Stephanie and D.J. to waste a ticket on the brat when the older two girls were clearly excited about the concert.

I'm so embarassed to admit this but I remember that episode and in the end DJ and Stephanie did go to that concert. In fairness to Michelle what bothered her was that DJ and Stephanie did a lot of things together and she was always left out and that's why she wanted to go to the concert.

Which, come to think about it was a little unlikely. All 3 of the girls were pretty far apart agewise. I mean DJ was about 11 when the show started, Stephanie was 5 and Michelle was a baby. I think those were the age differences - and really how likely was it that DJ would be any closer to Stephanie than Stephanie would be to Michelle?

I sometimes wondered why they weren't a little closer in age.

I thought DJ was like 9 when Stephanie was 5. She was in high school during the eps when Steph was in 6th grade (The Gia/Mickey eps).

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/Guide...026/epid-47335/

I wasn't really sure, just thought DJ *looked* around 11 in those first episodes, but according to TV Tome, when the girls start school in the first year of the show DJ is going into grade 5 and Stephanie into kindergarten. I always thought they made DJ grow up way too fast, but I guess as the oldest girl in a motherless household that actually makes some sense.

According to the episode where DJ asks for her own room(and for Steph and Michelle to move in together), DJ and Stephanie are 5 years apart and Stephanie and Michelle are 5 years apart(she says something to the effect of Steph is 10 and Michelle is 5, which is the same age difference Steph and I had when we started sharing a room).



I think they were just reading glasses. They were the ugliest damn glasses you ever saw, though. And they always looked kinda crooked on Steph, which just added to the awesomeness.

The glasses showed I believe a total of about 4 episodes from the time Steph got them. They were God ungly too, my first pair long before I went to contacts were never that bad.

That's correct. In the pilot, when Danny is trying to convince DJ to move in the same room with Steph, Danny said to DJ in the basement something like "How long have we known each other? Ten years" So that means that when the show started, DJ was 10, Steph 5 and Michelle a baby.



Ditto. Steph's glasses were really ugly.

Seriously. I always thought she looked like a blonde owl in them.

If DJ was 10 when the show started, how old was Danny when he and Pam had her? I'm just wondering if the show's big innocent theme was as innocent as we thought.

I think we did the math earlier on the thread and decided Danny was between 19 and 21 when DJ was born. Considering they were married when she was conceived (we're assuming), it's not totally weird for a 20-year-old guy to be a dad.

Woo! Never thought about that. Was Danny really that young?

I'm almost sure I remember an episode where Danny turns 30. I'm going to check out TvTome and see if I'm remembering that right. I do remember thinking that he was awfully young to be DJs father once she hit high school.

Edited to add:

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/Guide...026/epid-47343/

Yep, just as I thought, he turns 30 in the shows first season.

Yes, there's also an where episode Danny has a ridiculously early midlife crisis--at THIRTY--FUCKING--THREE. His age is mentioned, plus DJ's graduating from junior high school, which would make her about 13, making Danny 20 when she was born.

I suppose it's not entirely ridiculous--if you embark on marriage and parenthood that early in life, that midlife crisis might kick in earlier than normal. It was just so stupidly exaggerated--that at a still very young age, numerous jokes are being set up about Danny trying to recapture his lost youth.

Am I on crack, or did Steve Urkel show up on one of those episodes to show Stephanie that being a glasses-wearing freak isn't so bad?

Just saw the Little Richard episode. That gay kid singing "Paper Moon" cracked me up.

That's correct. I think that was the episode in which Stephanie just found out that she had to wear the glasses, wasn't it? He was supposed to be the cousin or something of a friend of DJ's and DJ and her friend kept trying to escape him. Somehow he ended up in DJ and Stephanie's room where Steph was moping about looking ugly with her glasses. Which she did. Those were hideous glasses.



LOL, I don't remember that. Which kid was that?

Probably Derek, the flamer to Michelle's fag hag persona.

Just adding to the age discussion -- in the beginning of Joey's Star Search episode, they're watching a tape of Danny's old college talk show, where he interiews Joey, and during the college talk show he flashes a picture of baby DJ.

Speaking of babies, I looked up Blake and Dylan Tuomy-Wilhoit on IMDB to see if anybody had actually hired them for anything since FH. Haaaaa.

Also, both amazon.com and columbia house have FH season one up for pre-order, with a phat discount.

So now that you mention it, what happened to Blake and Dylan Tuomy-Wilhoit?

I looked them up on the net. They retired from showbiz after FH. Their money from the show will pay for college. They are now 14 and are attending middle school in CA.

Thanks, that was interesting.

Just so I can be an annoying little Michelle....HAP-py New Yeaw! HAP-py New Yeaw! HAP-py New Yeaw!

(Un?)fortunately for us, according to one of the fansites, they have begun going on auditions again.

Yay, Bwudduhz!!

I think they were cute...and already acting much better than Michelle.

Anyone disturbed that there are still die-hard fans out there that will go to such great lengths to find out about the bwuddahs? Well, I've been brought to that level of fandom for other shows, but the most insignificant characters of FH? Nuh-uh!

I watched the episode last night where D.J. stops Steph from joyriding in a car with Gia and some boys at night while the "grown-ups" are busy fighting over Michelle's stupid Super Nintendo video game. When Michelle pulled the plug on the video game (actually, it's one of the very few episodes where I can tolerate Michelle), I got the most disturbing image in my head when Joey said he was going to go to his room and "play" with Mr. Woodchuck. I should be ashamed, shouldn't I?

However, nothing is as horrendous as seeing Joey having a pizza delivered. While sitting naked in a bubble bath. In front Danny and the girls.

Didn't see your post until now, so it's not even like it was fresh in my mind - how sad is it that that phrase was stuck in my head on New Year's Eve?

It was. That was the gayest little kid ever.

Oh, of course. I should have known that. Hee! Yes, Derek cracked me up, too.



And he did the gayest performance of yankee doodle ever.

And how could you forget Don't Go Breakin' My Heart, which was equally as gay despite the fact that he was dueting with a woman? Elton John has nothing on Derek!

Hee! I totally forgot about that. And the redhead was totally his beard.

Heh. FagHagLisa.

Yes, Derek sung in the gayest voice ever, but does anyone know for sure if he's really gay now? If we can find out these little tidbits for a show like "Ghostwriter," I'm positive we can do the same for FH too!

Well, Blake's only 19 so he might not know yet...or maybe he doesn't see a point in publicly declaring if he is(since it's not like it got Danny Pintauro a job or anything, and, well, he's just a bottle of peroxide and some contact lenses away from being a less successful blurry carbon copy of Danny Pintauro, acting-wise).

Checked a few websites as well as IMDB and saw that his last performance was as a choir member in "Raising Helen". Never saw it so I don't know if he's visible or whatever. Seems to have done a lot of voiceover work lately, which is good, considering his physical mannerisms when acting on FH could easily have gone from "neurotic but passably cute in that annoying kid kinda way" to "hellafied creepy" in later years.

Also, from one of the sites I checked out: A picture really DOES say a thousand words.

Hee! I loved him in that role in The Little Rascals. I always wanted Darla to run off with him.

I saw a recent picture of him a few months ago (I think he was 17,) and he looks like Danny Pintauro's younger brother, if that answers any questions for you! I'll try to dig up the photo when I have more time.