Tears...tears are streaming down my face.

You guys are amazing.

So when are we recording this thing and adding visuals to make it our own special Full House credits?

I read somewhere they inverted that part of the film. I don't remember why. It's kind of like printing a negative of a picture from the wrong side, or flipping the picture.

Thats what I thought at first, but then I watched the theme song today to see what everyone was talking about. She is literally wearing her sweater backwards, like the words are on the back of the sweater, which wouldn't have anything to do with the camera. I think maybe they were just trying to make it look like a different sweater. It is hella annoying not to know the reasoning behind it though.

OMG me too.

The lion waiting to carry me home is my favorite part. I can't fricking believe I'm still crying at that.

Wait, these are the lyrics? I could have sworn they were "At least your old familiar friends are waiting just around the bend." Oh hell, I give up! Mine makes more sense.

Perfect strangers theme lyrics here ;) The part that bothered me was "this flame in my heart, like a long lost friend, gives every dark street a light at the end". I squinted every time that came on, lol.

Topic: We need to submit our fresh-n-fabulous take on the FH lyrics to the DVD folks. In fact, am I the only one that thinks some of our snarky selves should get to do commentary? Especially for the later seasons. Could you imagine the booing and the groaning every time Cool-yay walked on set? It'd be AWESOME.

Edited because "things" and "thinks" are NOT the same. Damn you, Britney Spears Academy o' English! I want my $2.95 back.

Oh Miss Aquarius, best idea evah!! And if TPTB wouldn't let us (damn the man!) lets just all sit in a room MST3K-style and snark away.

If anyone wamts to download the long version of the theme song, here is a link.

ETA: heme? Brittany strikes again!

Watching the early episodes, it amazes me how well the cast worked together. The guys all have great chemistry together, Becky had chemistry with both Jesse and Danny, DJ and Stephanie have wonderful sister chemistry, it's really great to watch.

Maybe that's another reason everything started to go downhill when it became the Michelle show.

When someone says "the Michelle show" the one episode that always comes to mind is that terrible Christmas one with Mickey Rooney. Oooh I hated that one. Michelle was truly insufferable.

For some reason, I don't remember the Christmas show with Mickey Rooney, but the "Michell show" to me makes me think of those two back-to-back epsodes where Michelle falls off her horse and has amnesia for like a day or two. Those entire two episodes were all about her.

The one where she got Danny that prankster-like tie with the cup holder right? If so, then yeah she bugged. (When doesn't she? Heh) But, I especially hated how she dramatically tore the wrapping paper off when Jesse joked about how bad of a gift the tie was. Didn't this girl know by now that anything she does would have been thought of as cute?! They only thought it was a stupid gift if an adult like Joey or Jesse would have bought it for Danny. Hasn't she learned from all the stupid things she's done that got an "awwwww!" out of the guys? Shut up, Michelle. Shut up, Michelle's Christmas present.

The Michelle Show is pretty much any episode in the last season. Joey is Michelle's substitute. Michelle's feet are big. Michelle is sad when Papouli dies. Michelle goes to a Valentine's Day dance. I think Stephanie and DJ got about two episodes that season between them. (Stephanie's band that sucks and DJ's SATs.)

Didn't they even manage to make the episode where the twins are born all about Michelle?

And need I mention the fabulous Disney World episode?

Full House turned into The Michelle Show from about when she turned five and forward. I just wanted to throw things at my TV when it was Michelle Show episodes.

Oh yeah, I had forgotten about the twins arrival and the Disney World episodes. Definitely "Michelle shows."

I just saw a pic of the twins in "bad angel" outfits - one in black, one in red. Nothing but short shorts, angel wings, and... butterfly pasties (a la Lil Kim). The pic's label makes it seem it was from this March.

I'm still shocked... Part disbelief, part "why didn't I see this sooner?"

Damn, I never thought about it before, but you all are right- Full House turned totally into the Michelle Dictatorship. The early episodes, the guys have their own "grown up" lives-- but slowly, the Michelle regime overtook the series until she ruled every episode. I sight the "Princess for a Day" scheme as the putsch that sealed the deal.

Soup just came out of my mouth. "Joey's about fed up!" Bwa!

Yeah. Um, Michelle sucks. A lot. I bet a million dollars that Stephanie would have had years of therapy under her belt by now if they were a real family. Maybe she even could have gone back to the "Three's A Crowd" lady Danny took her to when she was scared he was going to die in an earthquake.

They could have done an episode with meaning or at least an actual plot around another character, but instead, Michelle worrying about her friggin' feet warranted an entire episode. To me, this episode's existence is the prime example of how the show truly became The Michelle Show.

Admittedly, though, I still mentally sing ''This is no fun, no fun, looking at the wa-aw...'' when I have to do something boring. I'd totally forgotten about the ''Why is my dad so bo-ring...'' song, which I may also have to utilize.

Edited because verb tenses are important.

There really was a Michelle's feet are too big episode? Wow, I thought y'all had just made it up going into crazy examples of Michelle episodes.

I never saw the feet episode. That's crazy.

I always hated the Good Michelle/Bad Michelle with both Olsens on screen together. Actually, I just hated all Michelle plots.

Oh yes, in the episode DJ and Stephanie take Michelle shoe-shopping only to find out she has grown two sizes since the last time she got new shoes. They poke a little fun at her for having big feet. Then the rest of the episode centers around hilarious hijinks as Michelle tries to shrink her feet before having a nightmare that her only future will be in the circus wearing clown shoes. There is even part of her nightmare where she is in the kitchen and her feet are growing so fast the family has to run into the living and a gigantic pedicured foot comes through the door. Like, who has a pedicure when they are eight? HATE that episode.

The one redeeming thing about the Michelle's feet are too big episode:

In one scene Michelle tries to shrink her feet by soaking them in a tub of cold water and ice cubes. After she and her sisters have a twinkly music moment and they apologize for teasing her simple ass, Cool-yay ambles in, murmurs something like "so THAT'S where all the ice is!", promptly scoops of a handful of Michelle Foot Cootie/Toejam Ice Surprise, tosses it in the beverage he's carrying, and takes a phat swig.

Fab-yew-luss!

Of course! Because the twins were born on Michelle's birthday, lucky them. It was kinda cool that they ruined Michelle's birthday party, though.

You know, when I was little I had big feet and I never believed that I could shrink them. That just proves that Michelle was stupid.

How pathetic does it make me that when I watched the show tonight, I sang the new, TWoP-approved theme song? They omitted the "Joey's about fed up!" line though. I was pissed.

It was the Mr. Bear episode, or as I called it, "Joey Fucked Up"

It was the Mr. Bear episode AND the Michelle eats marshmallows episode! I love the ending of the Mr. Bear episode...they're all watching the videotape of Pam, and then it ends all bitterly. Those old episodes are actually pretty good considering reminiscing about your dead mother isn't something to be solved with tinkly music and hugs. (Another reason why the Papouli episode was so lame.)

I muffled my ears during the theme song, and both times I heard "eat man ziti!" I love this thread!

I missed the marshmallows ep (which one was that?), but I caught the Mr. Bear one. That one actually makes me cry. They also did a great job casting Pam - she actually looks like she could be both older girls' mother. Michelle, not so much. But she/they could conceivably be Saget spawn.
Am I the only one that thought Mr. Bear himself was awfully unappealing?
Edited because I think I remember the marshmallow episode. Was that the one with the "yummy inna tummy!" crap?
The Star Search ep was on today. Gag me. Four stars my ass, Joey just ain't funny.

Haha, that theme song was so messed up. I thought the "evening TV" part was "reading TV", which didn't make any sense. Anybody have the extended lyrics, with that weird part in the middle? Something like, "Lies as mean as you've ever seen, and a bird that knows your tune. And a little voice inside you whispers, blah, blah, your dreams come true". They only play the extended song in 1 or 2 syndicated episodes.

Wow, I hadn't realized how Michelle-centric the show was, no wonder I started hating it around the 7th season. Let's see, Michelle f's up during a soccer game, Michelle gets her bike "stolen" causing major chaos for everyone else, Michelle loses Comet, Michelle tricks her sisters so she can go to a concert, Michelle doesn't want to move, Michelle protests Rigby the Rhino.....I can think of at least 5 more. Even Stephanie's crappy band episode is ruined by Michelle "managing" Derek and Lisa, the contest winners. I could totally understand the cast's chemistry taking a nosedive. A friend of mine said that Bob Saget and Jodie Sweetin did not get along, presumably in the later seasons. I wonder where she heard it, it seems weird for a grown man to have a vendetta against a kid.

Yes indeed. She gets to the set and won't eat anymore ("no moa!"), so Mr. Maletesta gets pissed.

I don't blame the little rodent. Marshmallows are disgusting when eaten alone.

Shell, I heard the Saget/Sweetin rumor a while ago, too. Not sure about that one. I mean...she was still more or less a kid throughout the run. I know kids in show business basically have to relate as adults, but still...I can understand holding a grudge against the Olsens because they dominated what had once been an ensemble show, but even that would have been stupid, because I doubt that they had much if any control over that.

Did anyone else roll their eyes extra hard at the Rigby protest? Did any of the kids actually pay for their own toy?

Okay, I always thought this was "even MTV" and "I'm here to hold on to." Not as funny as "eat man ziti" but it does illustrate that that mush-mouth they had singing it had some serious lack of enunciation, as previously mentioned.



I've noticed this! I wondered if maybe they started filming with the sweater on the right way but decided, after seeing it, that it was too busy and would take the focus away from Jodie? So they just flipped it around on the spot rather than go through the process of digging up something else for her to wear. That's my theory, anyway.

Here's something I haven't seen discussed on here that I thought of watching the early episodes: so what the hell happened to Jesse's parents? They were there for, what, the first two seasons? Then they evaporated into thin air. Did they ever explain this? Obviously we know they didn't die, as there was no Very Special Dead Grandparents Episode. Were they said to have moved away or something? Because, if I recall correctly, they didn't even show up for Jesse's wedding. Was this one of those t.v.-land things where the Powers That Be decided to just wipe the characters from the story as if they'd never existed (a la the younger daughter on Family Matters)?

I always that it was "readin' and tv"

His parents were there for his wedding to Rebecca, but after that they just dissappeared, much like all the parents on this show, at least parents of Danny, Jessie, Joey, and Rebecca. The whole greek thing was kinda freaky there for me, i mean we skip right to Jessie's grandparents and family from Greece and forget all about his stateside family. The fact that the grandparents were never much involved in the girls life bothers me more now than it did when i was a kid, but hey, i tuned out of this show for SBTB: The College Years on NBC during Full Houses final season.

Crazy uncle Stavros!! (Another lame episode.) The only good episode with Greek family was the one where DJ "got married." The rest were dumb.

They really should have kept Jesse's parents. I love the scene where the mother gets caught in Joey's bed.

True. But at least he lost. (Ha ha, Joey! You suck!) Of course, I wasn't so amused when the whole family had to give the requisite "Joey, you're so incredibly hilarious! Do your Popeye impression for us!" speech.

Ah, Crazy Uncle Stavros episode. That seriously sucked. (But wow, where did the Full House team ever find an actor who looked so much like Jesse?! They blew my mind!)

BWAH! Stupidest episode ever. It just goes to show how desperate the writers were to come up with Michelle-centric themes in the last season. Really, I can only think of a few that weren't about Michelle. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar tries to teach Uncle Jesse to play basketball, DJ puts the principle's car on the roof, Steph's band, Jesse opens the Smash Club. But for the most part, everything in the last year or two is about Michelle. It's a shame, because they had a good family dynamic early on, but it gradually transformed into "The Michelle Show".

I sincerely hope you're kidding ;)

Well, even after seeing these episodes a zillion times, you notice new things. The "Duckface" episode was on Nick at Nite this evening... and I just now realized that kid Brian who teases Walter and Stephanie ("Cryin' Brian") is the same kid who got his head stuck in the stairs when DJ babysat so that she could buy a phone.

Speaking of the "Duckface" episode, what was the deal with that hug therapist on Danny's talk show? Or maybe I should say what was the point? He had like one scene and then was never seen or heard from again! Who cared about him, anyway?

Kill me. Now.

I just caught the episode where the Tanners throw Michelle a circus party. Not only do we get owsecream and her grabbing for the cake (comedy gold, people), but an elephant? For a three year old? I'm not surprised that she becomes such a brat later on.

The Joey "Star Search" ep. was on Nick at Nite tonight. Cut.It.Out. I want to strangle everyone but Uncle Jesse in that episode. Although Jesse was pretty Teflon throughout the series.

The ep. before that was Doris Roberts playing what she does best.. overbearing mother/grandmother who likes to cook. And Michelle's big girl bed. I really wanted her to fall off the bed.

I hated that friggin' pencil bed.

An elephant for a three year old. That's sickening. It's not like these people were filthy rich (presumably), and she probably won't even remember it. Plus, I hate seeing elephants used as props in circuses and such. They rarely seem to be treated well. I know captivity is necessary because they are extremely endangered, but...zoos, people. They're not ideal, but they're better than making the animal sleep shackled and hitting them with boards with spikes on the end to make them move. [/end rant]

I hated owsecream. It makes no sense. I can understand mispronunciations, she's three. And I can understand using them for comedic purposes, seeing as how it's a family sitcom. But owsecream doesn't even make any sense as a mispronunciation. It doesn't sound natural, especially with how she pronounces everything else correct. I'm sure we've heard her say "I" before, so why couldn't she say ice cream?

"Ice cweam" would have made much more sense than "owsecream", but...

...I just realized I am looking for logic in a Full House episode. I need help.

I think Michele says owsecream because then she's rewarded by screams of laughter from the studio audience. Seriously, people, it's really not that funny or cute. Keep your raucous peals of laughter to a minimum.



Yes, I totally was, don't worry. Hee!

I hated the studio audience on this show. Anytime one of the characters said one of their 'catch' phrases - "How rude!" or "Have mercy" - they laughed like it was the funniest thing they ever heard. Get over yourselves people, they said that shit every week!

Or how about everytime there was any romantic-physical contact between 2 characters (i.e. Becky & Uncle Jesse; DJ & Steve) the audience would go cray-zay and "WHOOOOO!" like they were dry humping or something.

That reminds me of a Simpsons Halloween episode where Kang and Kodos are doing some sort of comedy routine and making REALLY bad jokes and you can hear the audience roaring with laughter and applause but then it would cut to them and they're all just sitting there with the most stoic expressions you could imagine. That's how I've always pictured the Full House studio audience to be.