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Ivana Tinkle
When Stephanie was little and complained about being the middle child, their "pep talk" consisted of lame analogies like "what's the best part of a baloney sandwich...the middle! See, being in the middle isn't so bad!"


The best part of that exchange was DJ getting jealous because she was stuck being the bread and Oreo cookie ends that no one eats. HA! Actually, DJ wasn't as bad as Michelle, but she had her moments.
kickedinthehead
The ep right before the Flintstones party features the fabulous Michelle montage to the "You are so beautiful to me" song.


Uggh, that was BEYOND nauseating! (Even worse than the "Mee-shell smiling" montage a couple of seasons earlier.) The whole Michelle/reminiscing episode was rather gratuitous...did they need to remind us what a little devil she was? In fact, I'm quite surprised they didn't include a flashback to that awful aforementioned moment where she scooted her bratty self across the table and stuck her grubby hands into all those wedding cake samples. Ugh! Loathe Michelle!
Halfpint Ingals
Today is my mom's birthday, so we looked up famous birthdays in the paper. Some include: Bill Clinton, Tipper Gore,Matthew Perry, and.... John Stamos. Yep, he is 41 years old today. And he was one of better parts of this show. Happy bday Uncle Jessee.
Nflux Forever
I am reminded of the VSE where Stephanie finds about here friend being beat be his father. During the episode Michelle pulls some stupid shit is punished by Danny. She's complaining about this until Stephanie completely blows up at her that there are people with real problems so she should stop her bitching. Of course, that was less about Michelle than it was about Child Abuse Boy, but it was still pretty satisfying to watch.
JTara
Nflux Forever, that episode by far had the best Full House quote. Whenever me or my husband get hurt and are asked what happend, we say, "I ran into a door, a door named dad." Child Abuse is no laughing matter, I know, but that quote is hilarious.
LaurafrmVirgnia
Today's reason to hate Michelle:

When Tommy Page comes to Stephanie's birthday party and sings her a song, Michelle then tells him that her birthday is in November and he needed to get to work on her song.

I remember when I saw the Tommy Page episode when it first aired, I had never even heard of him. I still haven't heard of him outside of the FH context to this day, but I assume he's a real singer because of the way everyone screamed when he came into the room for the first time. Also, he is such a bad actor that if he was really hired for his acting ability, the producers should get their money back. Does anyone know anything about Tommy Page?
kickedinthehead
Does anyone know anything about Tommy Page?


Well, I'm somewhat ashamed to be the first one to jump in with Tommy Page info... and actually I don't know much, but yes, I can confirm that he was a real singer. He had a brief period of semi-fame in like 1990 (so the FH episode seemed a bit behind-the-times, what with the girls screaming like that). He toured with none other than NKOTB, and I think one or two of them "co-wrote" his biggest hit, which was called 'I'll Be Your Everything.' The only other song I remember was called 'Shoulder to Cry On.' I liked him back when I was 11, but I didn't LOVE him because I thought he sang like a girl. And yes, what a terrible actor!!
Phenobarbara
Does anyone know anything about Tommy Page?


Sadly, yes. One of my best friends in high school (our freshman year to be exact, which was 1990) was obsessed with him and made me listen to his songs.

He toured with none other than NKOTB, and I think one or two of them "co-wrote" his biggest hit, which was called 'I'll Be Your Everything.'


Right you are. And I think he sang that song with Jordan Knight. Here's what I remember about that song:
Tommy: "I'll be your everything...I'll be your best friend..."
Jordan: (singing backup) "Girl, I'll be your friiiiiiiiiiiend..."

Bad stuff, dudes. Just bad.

And yes, Tommy Page was the most horrible actor on the face of the planet!! He should have been forced to write an apology letter to the viewers for subjecting us to that torture. You know when somebody is embarassing themselves on t.v. (a really bad singer, or a really bad interview) and you feel embarassed for them? I actually changed channels throughout that episode whenever Tommy Page had lines.
KUkerri
I am ashamed to admit this, but even though I haven't seen the episode in forever, I somehow knew nearly all the words to Stephanie's song, as well as the tune. I need to be reprogrammed.
LaurafrmVirgnia
I need to be reprogrammed.


I seriously wonder if the slate was wiped clean, would I still like FH? Its pretty damn stupid. I really do wonder how much of why I watch it is because of the nostalgia, so if I were watching it for the first time now, would I still like it? Its interesting to think about.
queenfrostine
That is pretty interesting. I like to watch FH because it reminds me of some of the stuff I used to do when I was a kid. For instance, remember the ep when DJ wanted her own room and used the easel and posters and had that little "Why I Should Have My Own Room" thing? I vividly recall doing that too, but I already had my own room, so I don't know what the hell I did it for. I think I wanted a karaoke machine or something. But yeah, this show definitely brings back some memories.
Yellowpager
ITA Michelle was a major pain during her 5th birthday episodes. My least favorite part is when she's singing "Happy Birthday to Me" and then says to Uncle Jesse "Is there something you want to say to me?" and then makes him say Happy Birthday twice because his first one wasn't enthusiastic enough. Ugh!

I think the best part of the Flintstones ep was the way Kimmy kept snarking on Danny. When he answers the door in his Dino costume she goes "What are you supposed to be, a Dork-a-Saurus?" And later at the hospital, when Danny's still wearing his Dino costume- "You're not wearing any pants? He's not wearing any pants!" Kimmy hollers out to two old ladies sitting behind him, who start smiling and waving. I love it whenever Kimmy cuts down Danny. Best part of just about any episode when it happens.
KatieWagner
I love Kimmy and her little cracks :Even bamboons can tell their kids apart"
healing fish
"You're not wearing any pants? He's not wearing any pants!" Kimmy hollers out to two old ladies sitting behind him, who start smiling and waving.


It would have been a lot funnier if it didn't seem like she had a crush on him. For fuck's sake, ew.
Halfpint Ingals
I too enjoyed Jessee in hospital room, especially the way he went raddddical and was so happy to have babies and a wife. I liked his song too, especially when Becky told him to shut up.
RainIsBeautiful
I turned on my AIM this morning and was greeted with this news...

'Uncle Jesse' files for divorce
Kelzen
It would have been a lot funnier if it didn't seem like she had a crush on him. For fuck's sake, ew.


Yeah, that's really sick. Uncle Jesse is understandable, at least, but Danny seems so much older, and creepier, not to mention way less attractive. Also? I would be mortified if I were DJ and my parents found it funny to crack jokes about her all the time and make "witty" banter with her.

Tommy Paige was indeed one of the worst actors ever to grace my television screen. (And I watch 7th Heaven, mind). Michelle was better than he was.

...Okay, so she wasn't. But it was a disturbingly close call.
StuckeyGilmore
Supposedly John Stamos is banned from one of the hotels at Disney World for having a big party involving lots of strippers.
Phenobarbara
Supposedly John Stamos is banned from one of the hotels at Disney World for having a big party involving lots of strippers.


That would have made a great "very special" Full House episode. In fact, after the stupid spectacle Uncle Jesse made about being away from his family for one night, I might have had more respect for the guy if he had a stripper habit.
Halfpint Ingals
Today was 1st episode with Steve as costar. And when Michelle and Steph realized where they were going, the plane was still on ground. Why couldn't the plane just wait a few minutes or fly by real quick instead of flying them back and forth ?
KatieWagner
So the little brat could finally be punished? JK
LaurafrmVirgnia
Don't be silly, the girls have been punished before. Remember that episode about punishments? DJ and Stephanie had to spend their whole Saturday raking the yard and Michelle had to...sit in a chair....and look at the wall. Child abuse! Not the chair AND the wall!
KatieWagner
I was just kidding anyhow, but I despise that punsihment episode though, how Michelle got away with everything
susiesunshine
Just wondering, but what kind of punishment would you guys receive if YOU wandered onto a random plane that flew to New Zealand?!? Holy crap. I wouldn't have lived to see today, that's for sure!!
karatekate
Well, it depends. Did my parents have to pay for 2 full-fare last minute tickets? Because then at least part of my punishment would be earning back the thousands of dollars it cost. I wouldn't have been able to sit down for a few weeks, so I probably could have gotten a lot done then.
KatieWagner
Ever hear of the saying "I brought you into this world, I'd take you out?" Well there you go
sgloriajv
Didn't Michelle get into more trouble than that just for playing Jesse's keyboard and running away to Teddy's? And also for going along with DJ and Stephanie to the movies when she had the sniffles (when DJ made her go and lie about it, just so she could keep her date with that guy?) Danny may have had a hard time being tough when it came to the wall thing, but he got over it pretty fast. Michelle got DJ and Stephanie in trouble with the pillow fight (oh no--they couldn't watch the MTV awards--didn't anyone have a VCR?); but they got her in trouble more with the whole Sniffles scam and the flight to New Zealand.

And also, as lame as the whole "This is no fun--staring at the wall" thing was, it's not like Danny had a whole lot of options--I mean she was like what, 4 or 5 years old?
Phenobarbara
Just wondering, but what kind of punishment would you guys receive if YOU wandered onto a random plane that flew to New Zealand?!?


Huge trouble. I didn't buy Danny's "anger". After about 10 minutes, he was over it. Not in my house!
RainIsBeautiful
With my mom, I'd still be hearing about it 20 years later. (And probably 30 or 40 years as well, but I haven't been around that long.)

I saw another commercial last night for the new Surreal Life, and I love how Dave Cool-yay looks totally freaked out by Brigitte Nielsen. Wonder if he knows she used to be married to Sly Stallone...
kariyaki
With my mom, I'd still be hearing about it 20 years later. (And probably 30 or 40 years as well, but I haven't been around that long.)

Oh, it would go on for the rest of your life. When my aunt was 17, she stole her father's red convertible, his credit cards and drove to California (from Washington DC). It's been 40 years and the family STILL gives her shit about it. She was supposed to come visit me in L.A. and I was all, "Hey, wasn't the last time you were here that time..." and she's all, "Yeah yeah yeah."

So yes, it's silly that everyone up and forgot about that little New Zealand incident.
Ivana Tinkle
And also, as lame as the whole "This is no fun--staring at the wall" thing was, it's not like Danny had a whole lot of options--I mean she was like what, 4 or 5 years old?


He could've beat the shit out of her....oh no wait, that's what I want to do to her.


Re: The New Zealand episode....I remember the first time seeing it, and watching them step off the plane thinking, dang they're not tired after spending 20 plus hours a plane? I'd be dead.
Miss Aquarius
Wasn't Wade Robson on the New Zealand ep?

The "forever" episodes were on today. I believe this was the episode where the series...hmm. I want to say "jumped the shark" but it jumped the shark before then...got eaten by the shark, maybe? Got so ridiculously stupid that I wanted to smack somebody. Yeah, that's it. Everything about these eps was corny and farfetched, well, even more so than usual. Except I actually liked Michelle's greedy ass in(I think it was) part 2 -- where she has the Lemonade stand and she's wearing the sandwich board and it says "Sorry, No Change" on the back. I was all, heh. I should try that. Except I live in NYC and if you tried that shit you would get stabbed with the quickness. So whatever.

Moving on...

Here is my Top 5 list of Things Wrong With This Episode:

1. Jesse's inability to keep rhythm or follow simple choreography -- When he was an Elvis impersonator, he danced and kept rhythm. In every semi-Greek episode, he danced and kept rhythm, and when Papouli kicked the stereotypical Greek bucket, he taught Michelle's class how to dance. Now, granted, a Greek line dance is not the running man, but it still requires concentration, rhythm, and following steps.

2. Everything having to do with the record label. You don't just sign a contract -- you get a lawyer to look over it, and if you're worth half a shit and the contract is garbage then you negotiate. And if you're dumb enough to sign away artistic control(as was implied by the remixing of the song without Jesse's knowledge, and the video concept, etc), then you can't just decide you've had enough and storm out. There is no way that scenario would have happened unless there was a phat court battle.

3. Martha Quinn...did no one notice the extreme similarities in appearance to one Alison "The Ax" Axelrod in a later season? Doofuses. Wait, is the plural of "Doofus" Doofuses or Doofi? Whatever.

4. Michelle's "Cooking" badge. Who the hell would let her "cook" unsupervised? Oh, wait, this is Full House. Little kids can cook by themselves. Little kids dumb enough to put velveeta and olives in chocolate pudding can cook by themselves. When I was in Girl Scouts(which, of course, pale in comparison to FH's honey bees), when we got a badge it was because we learned how to do something correctly. Freezing juice is not cooking. But hell, at least she didn't add Clorox to the juice or anything. And LMAO @how all the adults were so self-absorbed that it took Stephanie to actually be there in the kitchen to help Michelle.

5. Comet in a Sombrero. Just because.


There. Now I feel better. Almost peppy enough to whip up some good old-fashioned Turkey In A Boot for dinner tonight. And perhaps some Pie a la Floor for dessert. Michelle, I hope you're taking notes.
BrightEyes87
Wasn't Wade Robson on the New Zealand ep?


Yeah, it is. You can tell by the way he rocks that mullet.
dawsnzchck
Comet in a Sombrero. Just because.


I was with you until this one. I love Comet in the sombrero. Especially when Jesse tries to get him to eat the Velveeta/Olives/Chocolate Pudding thing and he puts his paw over his face and the hat slides down and covers his eyes. I honestly think this show would've been much improved if it were just Comet, Kimmy, and Stephanie.
Miss Aquarius
The thing with Comet in the sombrero that angered me was that the only ones who seemed to regard the dog as more than just a device to aid in getting what they wanted were Stephanie and Michelle. It's a personal peeve of mine when people pimp their housepets to try and tug at people's heartstrings when they don't do shit for the animal otherwise. Comet himself was adorable. I *heart* Comet in general, it was more the fact that DJ barely acknowledged him through the years(except to feed him her sandwich during her 22-minute eating disorder ordeal) and then tried to use him as a prop in her fiesta of bootlicking and begging.
Phenobarbara
Almost peppy enough to whip up some good old-fashioned Turkey In A Boot for dinner tonight.


Oh man, that made me ill just looking at it.
Halfpint Ingals
3. Martha Quinn...did no one notice the extreme similarities in appearance to one Alison "The Ax" Axelrod in a later season? Doofuses. Wait, is the plural of "Doofus" Doofuses or Doofi? Whatever.



That always bothered me as well, and I also thought it was stupid.
Ivana Tinkle
3. Martha Quinn...did no one notice the extreme similarities in appearance to one Alison "The Ax" Axelrod in a later season? Doofuses. Wait, is the plural of "Doofus" Doofuses or Doofi? Whatever.


Seriously, why did Martha Quinn guest star on the show more than once? Was she banging one of the producers on the side?

The episode where DJ gets her permit was on last night. It had a great Kimmy quote: (after realizing that she had a different driving test than DJ and copied all her answers) "That's the problem with America. No one trusts anyone anymore!"

Ok, there's one this that really bugged me about this episode. There was a scene with Steph and her friend Rita, and Michelle comes in singing some dumbass song about a pig and a duck. Rita is making all kinds of faces at Michelle like she owns the joint. Who the fuck does this bitch think she is? I mean, I know Michelle was annoying, but from what I saw, she was a one time friend who later disappeared. Gah, that girl always bothered me. Had to vent about it.
LaurafrmVirgnia
There was a scene with Steph and her friend Rita, and Michelle comes in singing some dumbass song about a pig and a duck. Rita is making all kinds of faces at Michelle like she owns the joint. Who the fuck does this bitch think she is? I mean, I know Michelle was annoying, but from what I saw, she was a one time friend who later disappeared. Gah, that girl always bothered me.


I actually thought the exact opposite during that scene. When I saw Rita making those facial expressions (and I just noticed it yesterday even though I have seen that episode many times) I thought, "Wow, Rita must post on Television Without Pity!" Not that I"m talking about the boards, so moving on. Now that you mention it, it does seem odd that Rita was making horrible faces at Michelle while Stephanie was just sitting there. I blame bad child actors, I'm sure a director told "Rita" to act like Michelle is annoying and those facial expressions were the result.

And now I will have "Oh Mister Duck, Oh Mister Pig, Quack Quack, Oink Oink" stuck in my head for the rest of the day.
HappilyEvrAftr
So, wait - I thought they only got on the plane to New Zealand, and then got off when they realized they didn't want to go there, or something. They actually flew all the way there?
Halfpint Ingals
Yea, they flew ALL the way. Again, because the plane was still on ground about to take off, but it was too much to delay for a few minutes because it was better to fly them back and forth.
Candor
How does everyone feel about Vicki, Danny's on-again-off-again infatuate? I think I hate her, but I am not sure as to why.
YourDensity
She seemed affected like child stars. Like, very PERKY. And OVERBOARD! About everything. Plus, Becky was more lowkey (most of the time, occasional spaz out) and sarcastic alot of the time. She had to keep up with Jesse.

Now, Vicky was with Danny. Danny was perky and outgoing all the time. And always excited about cleaning and wholesome things... I mean, it's hard to develop a love interest around that. Danny was very "Disney approved". I liked it whenever Danny when crazy and went to a rock concert (Rancid!) or played with the band. I wanted to see more Saget honestly.

Plus, it would've been cool if Vicky had brought out the wildman. I didn't see the heat between Vicky & Danny. I blame the Danny character. I liked Vicky, I did. But I just wanted her to be more sassy.
susiesunshine
I think I didn't care for Vicky because I couldn't get past her bad perm.
LaurafrmVirgnia
Oh definitely the bad perm. Her hair was so early 90s.
RainIsBeautiful
Awwwww, I liked the hair! I think that was one of her few redeeming qualities.
Phenobarbara
So, wait - I thought they only got on the plane to New Zealand, and then got off when they realized they didn't want to go there, or something. They actually flew all the way there?


Yes, they flew all the way there. When Stephanie noticed the plane starting to move, she jumped up and ran to the stewardess to ask to get off, but the woman kept cutting her off and pushed her back to her seat. Stephanie asked the woman, hypothetically, what would happen to someone if they got on a plane without a ticket? The woman said he/she would be considered a stowaway and a felon or something like that. So Stephanie and Michelle kept their mouths shut and flew all the way to New Zealand. They obviously explained their situation in New Zealand (we didn't see that part) because the airline put them back on a flight to San Francisco.
RainIsBeautiful
Isn't that, like, an 18-hour flight?
KatieWagner
14 hours
HappilyEvrAftr
It's somewhere between 10 to 14 hours (I flew to Fiji, which was 10 hours, and then home from Australia, which was 14). Anyway, it's a long-ass flight.

Eehh, I don't really have an opinion about Vicky. I'll always have a mental image of her bouncing around and having this weird, wide-eyed stare. Way too perky.
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