Yeah, seriously. Were they always such assholes to DJ, or was that a one-time thing?

In my humble opinion they were assholes to both DJ and Stephanie. Stephanie was so much cuter with Uncle Jesse, but then they made BLATANT favoritism with stupid Michelle & Uncle Jesse.

Ugh. I hated how Michelle was alwayyyys sooooo cuuuuute and soooo funnnny. She got away with murder. I hated that kid!

And poor Stephanie was relegated to Jan Brady treatment. I loved it with Stephanie went sort of wild. As wild as any of them got anyways.- DJ got to do cool stuff, but no matter how well-behaved she was... Danny never trusted her. Remember the Steve's apartment eppie?

The episode that was on this afternoon gave me another addition to the mile-long list entitled "Reasons to Despise Joey."

It was the one where they went to Tahoe and he found a "hot" machine. DJ and Steph are standing there, watching. After winning several times in a row he walked away to "find a change bucket" leaving the 11-year-old and the 6-year-old to watch the machine. Of course, DJ pulls the arm, hits the jackpot, and hilarity ensues. [/sarcasm]

What I want to know is why didn't Numbnuts send THE GIRLS to find a change bucket? What kind of dumbass would even consider leaving a couple kids to guard a slot machine and walk away? And I'm not even speaking from a moral standpoint of whether kids should be hanging around slot machines, anyway, I'm speaking as someone who frequents Vegas. You NEVER leave your machine unattended if you want to continue playing -- and with money in the tray, you fool!

Also in the same ep -- Rebecca was interviewing some faux movie star ("Todd Masters"). He asked her out and she said no, she had a boyfriend, and Todd suggested the three of them go to dinner together (hmmm...sounds like Todd was a little into the kinky!) Jesse overhears part of the conversation and starts going off. He chews Rebecca out and then dumps her -- all in front of the cameras as a live episode of "Wake Up San Francisco" is filming. Of course they get back together after Jesse grovels for a bit. I'm wondering how realistic this is. If it were me in that situation and my boyfriend embarrassed me on t.v. in front of the entire Bay Area, he not only would never get within ten yards of me again, he'd be incapacitated for at least a month while his crushed nuts healed.

Heh. That's hilarious. Also a really strange way to ask someone out.

Interestingly kinky, because John Stamos was on Friends as the guy Chandler wanted to donate his sperm to babymaking with Monica (when they thought about going that route when they were having troubles). Which left poor John Stamos feeling like he was being hit on by them. Kin-kay.

Poor John Stamos... everyone wants a threesome with him. A guy-guy-girl one no less...

LMAO! I couldn't agree more! That pissed me off to no end. Rebecca was way too forgiving of Jesse. His temper was downright scary in that episode. How romantic. NOT!

Another super lame Jesse/Rebecca moment was when they were arguing because they hated the other's hobbies. Rebecca wanted to ride horses while Jesse wanted to do something else. (go see some band I think) So at the end of the episode, the sappy music starts and Rebecca sits Jesse down and says something like "just because we enjoy different things doesn't mean we still can't be a couple."
To which Jesse replies - with big dumb cow eyes - "really?" The he takes her hand and stares at her as if she's just preached the Gospel. Even as a kid watching that, I was like, kill. me. now. I could never be with someone as emotionally lame as him!

But then again there was his hair. Heh.

His hair wasn't always that great. I bet if Rebecca had seen Jesse in his season 1 mullet, she NEVER would have gone out with him.

I really wish Jesse and Becky would've argued about something more interesting. I mean they always argued about stupid shit like Nebraska vs. Graceland. I wanna hear some real arguments! Lemme hear: "Hey how about we move out of this shit hole attic and back into the nice house that I lived in before I had to move in with your psycho family!" That'd be nice.

BWAH!! Dumb cow eyes! All of their arguments were pretty much like this.


Word. They were pretty lame in that regard. And I can't believe that Becky would willingly move out of her house and go with him back to the Tanner's place, on the begging of poor wittle Michelle. If I were Becky, I would just say, "Whoa...look here. I WORK with the guy every single day. And now you want me to move in with him?! <commence nut crushing>"

Obviously, there are a lot of oldest and middle kids here. Or maybe the contrast in how she's treated compared to the other two really triggers some leftover sibling rivalry. I once read a book in which the author maintained that parents almost always have a favorite/s, even though they'll usually deny it.

I always empathized with DJ and the way the three men just saw themselves at her age, rather than actually her, and behaved accordingly.

I think the "lack of trust" was moreso a DJ as-the-oldest-child issue.

I was watching an episode earlier today about Joey punishing DJ because she didn't call when she was late blah blah blah worried-cakes. All I could think about was what a huge loser Joey is, especially towards the end of the show. He was what damn near forty at the end of the show and still living in his best friend's house?

Jesse and Becky at least had some reason for living there. Jesse was actually a relative, plus hello, free babysitters for their bratty children 24 hours a day. Joey just needed to get a life. Especially since he was a supposed to be a comedian and nothing he did in seven years of the show ever made me laugh.

Well I'm the youngest child and I hated Michelle because she thought she was above everyone. When Stephanie was her age she could have her annoying little sister moments but she still treated everyone like they were her family, not her servants. And I'm not even just talking about the part where she made everyone dance around her singing the "yeah Michelle" song, even when she couldn't stand that Stephanie wouldn't give her the cupcake for saying please it was like she couldn't believe someone actually told her no.

My parents pretty much made it obvious. My youngest sister is 10 and she has lupus. Although they're a bit worse now, even before we found out she was sick it was always doting. She's the baby though, so...Hehe. When I'm not pissed at her, I protect her. Hehe.

So on-topic. Although this has probably been asked before (I'm pretty sure considering I had to read all 105 pages to get caught up. Tear.) but what is everyone's least favorite episode?

I'll wait until I watch most of them again. Before it started airing on Nick and ABC Family I hadn't seen it in four years.

Dont you people have better things to do than just come on here calling Michelle ugly, spolied and every other name under the sun?

Aw, buck up little camper. Remember which message board you're on. And to answer your question...I guess we don't. Problem?

Oh gosh, heavens no. He was on a rerun of a "Just For Laughs" Special (a popular Canadian comedy thing in Montreal that's broadcast on the CBC). I think it originally aired in 2003, and reran last month (when I saw it). He totally skeeved me out *shudders*. Everyone else (Tina Fey, some guys from Whose Line, and other comedians I'm not familiar with) was hilarious, though!

KatieWagner, see the board name? Television WITHOUT Pity. If they're on tv, then they're fair game regardless of age, gender, etc etc. We don't descriminate here :P

[Sigh. -- Strega]

I stopped watching the show after Bob Saget became the host of AFV. That seems to be when his character Danny no longer had conversions, but only used one liners. He was no longer funny.

Probably the one where Danny buys Michelle the green Blossom hat, which she gives to Comet (animal abuse!) and then goes to school and climbs the Cage of Doom, but is too wussy to come back down. Cue music of doom and then the "Oh Nos!" looks on her friends' faces. Then Ambiguously Gay Derek cheers her on in overly pronounced words. (Come ON Mich-ELLE! You can DO it!! Cooooome OONN!) Suddenly, Danny shows up and is all "you're a big girl" blah blah and eventually, Michelle bravely climbs down and everyone (and I mean everyone) runs around and cheers her on. Worst. Episode. Ever. I think after this one the shark was doing hoops over San Fran.

Lindsey C, ITA that that was one of the worst eps ever. I can still picture that stupid hat to this day.

Other hated episodes that come to mind are the Michelle's-bike-gets-stolen catastrophe and the episode when Mrs. Carruthers..no, wait, any episode with Mrs. Carruthers.

Heh, I have lots of least favorite episodes, and something I'll call "least favorite stories" since most episodes have an A and B story, so it wouldn't be fair to call the whole episode a steaming pile if I happened to like part of it. I know I'm forgetting some, but this is all I can think of right now:

Least Fave Episodes

*ALL the episodes featuring Joey's comedy, which I believe is 3: the Star Search one, the one where he reunites with his father, and the one where he does this god-awful surfer shit on "Surf's Up".

*Most of season 8, I know that's kind of cheating. But the scenario with Kimmy getting an ostrich (wtf, is that legal?), takes the cake. Man, did it look fake, too. The episode where Michelle gets that forsaken burro is another hate-fest.

*The Yankee Doodle play. Michelle's 1st grade class is putting on the play and she wants the lead part - it seems mostly because DJ and Steph got to play the role as 1st graders. Michelle has a decent enough audition and seems a lock for the part, until the chameleon Derek ("I tend to blend in with my surroundings") tries out, and blows Michelle away. She was an uber-brat in this one, refusing to accept the special concessions Jesse and Joey made for her. And why are Jesse and Joey AND Stephanie all involved!? It's finally show-time and Derek gets a totally out-of-character bout of stage fright. Michelle talks him through it and he comes out prancing and singing like Shirley Temple. Stage fright, my ass.

*The Disney World 2-parter - everything's been said already on this one.

*The camping episode, where the girls come back from camp and can't detach themselves from it - Michelle even steals a rabbit and brings it home. The guys are all hurt by this. Is camp really THAT fun? I think I'd be thrilled to get home after sleeping in a cabin for a few weeks. This episode also harbors Joey's marshmallow-ass scene - worst. scene. ever.

*This is just half an episode, I can't remember the rest. But it's after Danny and Vicky break up and he goes psycho, rearranging everything and messing up the house. He puts sports equipment in the kitchen cupboards and gets rid of the kitchen table in favor of a Japanese "floor" setup, complete with sushi for dinner.

*Last one, the season 7 finale where the family is ready to get their own, well-deserved homes until Michelle steps in and ruins the whole thing. I abhor this episode to the point that I can't even watch it anymore.

I gotta agree, anyone that heavily features Joey is never good. My least favorite is probably the one when Joey substitute teaches for Michelle's class and ends up sending her to the principal's office. It combines my least favorite things, lots of Joey and Michelle acting like a brat and then learning a valuable lesson.

Vicky break up takes the cake along with the follow up episode. Full House had the worse break ups on tv long before Friends graced the screens. Man, Vicky turned into such a twit and expected everything to change for her because she was engaged to Danny. Man, talk about turning into a dumb ass bitch.

I just remembered one of my least favorite episodes. It's the one with the Tanner family reunion where everyone acts like complete spazzes who had no business passing the 5th grade. Jesse stays home to write a song but remembers that he was supposed to be in the balloon race with Michelle so he rushes out to meet them only to meet...Elvis. And when Elvis asks for gravy on his salad? That's when my stomach turns like never before.

You forgot to mention that apparently, Elvis was now fighting crime. Wtf?

I'll just have to say a big fat "word" to all the eps mentioned so far! Especially the "Jesse-misses-the-Tanner-family-reunion-and-gets-a-lifetime's-worth-of-guilt-laid-on-him-by-bratface" one. I mean, hello? It's the Tanner family reunion, first of all. Jesse, as delusional as these people tend to be, and as many lines as they seem to blur, is not a part of the Tanner family. He is related to three members of the Tanner family. The rest he has absolutely no connection with and probably doesn't even know, since you don't often see Danny's relatives popping 'round the house.

Also, as shlocky as FH always was about how those three little girls and what they wanted were the absolute, be-all, end-all priority in everyone in that house's life, sometimes (*gasp of horror*) there are things that are slightly more important than running a three-legged race with a six-year-old! (Say it isn't so!!) I think tending to one's career trumps the goofy family gathering of a family one is only slightly connected to in the first place. Gah.

Whoa, I don't think I remember this Tanner family reunion one! Must watch FH every night from now on to catch it (yeah, that's my excuse).

WORD to everything you guys said...and I love the extra snarky comments that follow! Adding on to what you guys already said, I would have to say I seriously hate the episode where DJ has this big epiphany on top of a mountain and decides to break up with Steve. All these FH breakups seem to fall out of no where, this one especially.

Speaking of that Tanner familiy reunion. Danny still had Michelle in a car seat. What the hell was with that?

My least favorite episode: when D.J. and Stephanie had tickets to the Counting Crows, but Danny forced Stephanie to give her ticket to Michelle, because "it was Michelle's turn." Worst. Parent. Ever. What in the world kind of parenting policy is that? And as soon as Danny turned his back, Michelle rubbed it in Stephanie's face that SHE was going and Stephanie wasn't. Then she proceeded to brag about how she didn't even know this band, but ha ha ha, SHE was going. I've already posted my feelings on this so I don't want to sound like a broken record, so suffice it say that ep severely pissed me off.

Second least favorite ep: Disneyworld, when Michelle was princess for a day. Don't get me started.

Last but not least: the Yankeedoodle ep that someone already mentioned. I can understand Michelle being bummed out for a day or so, but the little fiend dragged it out forever and made sure everyone knew how mean and awful Uncle Jesse and Joey were because they *gasp* picked someone other than her.

Oh, and I am the youngest in my family, and I admit I was spoiled, too. But I never acted like Michelle because a) my parents wouldn't have allowed it and b) my brother would have punched my lights out.

I meant to post this earlier: the other day, they showed the ep when D.J. was throwing Kimmy a surprise birthday party and told Stephanie she wasn't allowed. In an effort to cheer her up, Joey says:
"Steph, how about we have our own super duper party upstairs? Doesn't that sound like fun?"
Stephanie: (stares at him in disbelief) "Does it sound like fun to you?"

Hee hee! Long live Stephanie Tanner. She had the best lines on the show.

I don't remember seeing that...was it an actual car seat, with the 5-point harness? Or was it just a car seat type thing that is used with a regular seatbelt? Actually, kids are supposed to be in a car seat with the 5-pt. harness up till 40 lbs. and a belt-positioning booster up till 80 lbs. (Believe me, I'm a carseat expert whether I want to be or not!)

I have memories of the Yankee Doodle play burned into my mind. It's not good. Anyone remember the one where Jesse wants another baby,but Becky wants to concentrate on her career. He then decided to watch the sick twins and do his show at home. Joey being Joey is lying with a messed up back (probably from Alanis's nails). All the children, including Danny are so annoying that I can't watch it anymore. Danny and his brats take over the radio show, the twins are sick, and Jesse basically freaks out and realized he doesn't want another kid. Then Becky comes home and is all "Honey even though we have two kids and still live in your ambiguously gay ex-brother-in-law's house in a freaking attic, let's pop out another!!" To which Jesse agrees. What. The. Fuck. It was a matter of five minutes and he changed his mind. Actually, it was like one minute, but the episode is so bad it felt like five.

Yeah MaryEB, it was a car seat. With the whole harness and everything over Michelle. Let's face it, the twins must of been way over 40lbs by then. And the truth is, that was the last time we would ever see Michelle in a car honestly, a gain. Least with Danny driving.

Even I'll admit it wasnt the best episode. But now I kinda get what you guys are saying about Michelle being a spolied little brat.

Yeah, that's the way quite a few of these episodes feel. :(

I can't believe I watched this show religiously as a child/pre-teen.

And runs straight off the stage...to the closet. Symbolization anyone? Because if it was a trick by the writers, I forgive them for the stupid-ass "Cut-it-out" jokes.

That Yankee Doodle episode drives me nuts.

First of all, as I've mentioned before, she can't sing for shit. (But she has an album and I don't, go figure) Second, OF COURSE DJ and Stephanie were Yankee Doodle, and she had to break the cycle. Because apparently there were no talented kids when Steph and DJ went to school.

So here comes the flamboyant Derek who has a fabulous Broadway voice and wins the part and Michelle has a hissy fit. She didn't get what she wanted for once, and it just proves how spoiled she is. She is so used to getting her way and then she doesn't and can't handle it. What baffles me is she doesn't understand WHY.
See my above reasoning Michelle, although maybe you could play the part of the troll.

But of course, it wouldn't be Full House without Michelle in some way still regaining the spotlight. I really hate her. It's probably abnormal for me to 1) hate someone who's so young and 2) NOT REAL. But I do.

Well, wasn't Steph a dancer (and Jodie one IRL)?

The episode I HATE is the one where Michelle keeps framing DJ and Stephenie for her stupid shit and when she finally gets busted, all the punishment she gets is a "Time Out in the Corner". Bleh.

Not sure about Jodie, but yes, Steph was a dancer in that episode where she become obsessed with all things dancing and it becomes too much for her to bear. Sob! "She's Stephanie Tannneerrr...that's me!"

I just meant that I thought it was funny that both Steph and DJ just happened to BOTH win the lead role over all other kids.

Have to add this quote now:

"No fun, no fun looking at the wwwwalllllll."

There was so much wrong with this show that I don't even know if I can pick a least favorite.

Though, in *gasp!!!!* Michelle's defense re: the Yankee Doodle episode, I found more fault with the way Jesse and Joey practically promised the part to her from the get-go. IIRC, they pretty much said the part was hers before they EVER held auditions(Stephanie was coaching Michelle in their room). That is unprofessional, ridiculous favoritism, and of course it's going to get the kid's hopes up. Even if the kid in question is an evil, selfish spoiled brat. It's one thing if she had drawn that conclusion herself but everyone was kissing her ass and feeding into the idea that she had the part before she auditioned, so I can't front -- I would have been pissed too.

I have a theory that Pam was the only parent worth a shit anywhere on the Tanner/Cochran-Katsopolis family tree. Hence DJ and Stephanie turning out nearly decent for the most part. I think the only episode where i actually enjoyed Michelle in the final 2 seasons was the last 2 episodes of the series. And that's just because I got to see her get injured and then she had amnesia and forgot to act like an entitled ass. Though the series finale two-parter is one of my least favorites. Since nobody's mentioned it so far(and a lot of the ones I really wanted to gouge my eyes out during have already been dissected), I'll break it on down:

Michelle's hobby du jour is horseback riding. Heeeeey, remember when it was DJ's hobby du jour? And Becky bought that horse that DJ stole and brought home because she figured, ah, nobody'll notice? I wonder if the horse got unceremoniously sent to the glue factory after season 2 or 3, because I don't recall any mention of horseback riding after the "Dammit, your hobbies just ain't fun to me" episode. But, no matter. Michelle's renting a horse named Old Peppermill. Enter Elizabeth -- the brunette miniature Hilton sister clone with a riding crop(though I'm sure Paris has one or two stashed away somewhere as well) and a hyena of a mother who, of course, mocks Danny(who is so poor and beneath her!), and Danny decides to let Michelle enter a jumping competition she had discussed with Elizabeth earlier in the episode(and Danny had ix-nayed it because it would be too expensive). Because Michelle's been at this horseback riding thing for, what, 5 minutes? Well, she knows what she's doing. Send her happy little ass out on old Peppermill and make him jump over some stuff. Nothing could go wrong.

Except the intense cruel pressure heaped upon these two precious darling little angels proves to be too much. And because the stables are not supervised even though there is the potential for extreme danger when combining horses and children(must be run by the same genius that didn't notice fair DJ stealing a damn horse back in the day), Michelle and Elizabeth ditch the competition and go riding on the trail, "just for fun". Nothing could possibly go wrong. Stop looking at me like that.

Danny chokes on his testosterone when he realizes dear sweet Michelle has gone missing. Now, mind you, he doesn't notice at first. His other daughters clue him in to the fact that his golden child isn't even there, and --poof-- his Father of the Year nomination vanishes into thin air.

So Michelle, who was skilled enough with horses to enter this jumping competition, is riding down the trail and Elizabeth sees a log(practically a twig), and jumps it on her horse. Michelle, trying to do the same, instead spooks the horse, falls off, and knocks herself unconscious. And then we all have a party.

No, wait. Sorry.

Anyway, Michelle gets amnesia, snarks on just about everyone in the house which is fab, then we get a special moment with both Olsen twins while one of them plays Michelle and the other plays Michelle's lost memory(and fires her agent after taping the scene). And all is well in Tannerland once again.

Not mentioning the DJ's prom subplot because dammit, I hate Steve and his hairline that started receeding when he was a toddler. Hate hate hate. DJ should have bought herself a male prostitute and saved herself some embarrassment. Also? Kimmy is the worst matchmaker ever.

you hate Steve, Miss Aquarius? Awww, Steve was my favorite one on the show while he was actually on the show. I liked Uncle Jesse too, but only when he wasn't babying Michelle. I think everyone was way too obsessed with Michelle. In the episode where Joey was playing hockey, he "scared Michelle" by being mean, so then he played really badly just so Michelle wouldn't be scared, and then he said "Michelle, I don't want to play like a meanie, but I don't want to play like a weeny. Is it ok if I play like a in-between-y?" I was about to barf.

I just got stared very curiously at work for laughing my ass off at that. That was hilarious Arista thanks for the much needed laugh!!

WORD. The only one that is worse is the uber-crappy Stacy Q episode where Dave Cool-yay could barely keep from looking down her shirt during the scene.

LOL! Weren't those writers brilliant??

I caught an early episode where they get a dog, and it actually seemed halfway decent. For one thing, the actors seemed to poking fun at themselves.

Jesse: Interrupts himself."What I am the faithful sidekick?"

Steph asks how dogs get pregnant. Danny explains.
Steph: "How do you know so much?"
Danny: "Well, I'm an adult. And what I don't know, I make up."

Jesse fails his driving test. Bitterly: "They'll let any jerk have a license."
Joey: "Except one."
Jesse: "Hey, I don't have to take this from someone who still takes Flintstone vitamins."

Today I heard that CTS (a Canadian religious channel) will start airing episodes of Full House this fall. My first reaction was, "Yay!" and my second was, "Full House is a Jebus show?"

Actually I don't think that they were over 40lbs by three years. Isn't that a little hefty? I dunno much about weight proportions though, so I'm probably wrong.

And, going for the obvious joke:

Of course it is. You can't tell me you can get through an entire episode without shouting "Jesus!" at least once.