Poor, naive, deluded people. *tsk*

And sending baby gifts to someone you don't even know? So sad.

I just saw a tape of the Thursday FUF show. I got sick of Marty saying his accusers all had issues. Yes, Marty, everyone else has "issues." They're not hard on you because you're a jackass. Nope.

And now I just saw my tape of the Friday show. The first woman has serious Muppet face going on. Stay away from the knife!

Oh, I cannot deal with the DP web boards. It makes me appreciate the powers that be over here running a tight ship. Anytime anyone expresses the opinion that Alex should have kept her baby, 10 people post an attack that poster. And they get downright NASTY too.

Also, the board will delete any anti-DP sentiments, which is why you cannot find any of the objections that we have over there. Everyone loves DP and Robyn apparently (LIES).

The FUF family makes me sick. I cannot even watch them anymore. I do believe that I hate Marty.

Hi everyone. *claps hands with glee* Oh where do I start, where do I start? See, I was at the bookstore today and noticed that somone has published an unauthorized biography or Dr. Phil! I did a fast skim read and while the book was not extremely detailed (the chpater on Dr. Phil's children was about 4 pages and basically consisted of "he has children and he loves them and isn't that nice" followed by several remarks about Robin being the one really in charge of that) there was some dirt! Most of it about Robin. Hee.

1) On meeting him (she is apparently a friend of one of his sisters) she did not like him, and indeed most of her family still does not. But she told him shortly after their first date that she loved him because there was so much about him that she could change.

2) He had a vasectomy after Jay was born, then one day he overheard Robin telling someone she wanted another kid, so he had a reversal without telling her, bought her a baby gift and went home still "limping" and with the baby gift under his arm to tell her what he had done.

3) He feels like he did not really understand his marriage until her parents died (this was actually a sad story). Her mom keeled over and her father called Phil. He went over and did CPR on the mom but it was too late, and Phil then had to drive hom and break the news to Robin. Her father died a month later (I forget how) and when she collapsed sobbing in his arms that she felt like an orphan he looked into her eyes and swore he would never leave her and said "From now on, it's just you and me, kid." Oh, and she has a twin brother.

4) He describes her makeup and grooming routine as "insane" and said it takes several hours. The author described Phil relating once that he will lie in bed still sort of sleeping and look over periodically at the bathroom and see "strange fumes and gasses" and he will not go in because it is like something from the twilight zone in there.

5) The crew all hated Robin and felt her presence in the studio every day was "wifely interference." It only took a month for her to get herself on air even though she claims to hate being in front of the camera. She also makes Phil nervous and although she does not speak during the 'rehearsals; she will covey with body language when she disapproves and he will backtrack and change his mind.

That's all I remember off-hand. But I came right how and typed it up because I knew you guys would want the dirt :-)

Hee! I love the dish on Robin, thanks for the info! I'd heard the make up routine snark once before and its even funnier in text. Can you imagine what that woman looks like straight out of bed? Eek! Funny about the vasectomy!

I saw the Dr. Phil E! True Hollywood Story today for the first time and he came off pretty badly in it, IMO. Not that I wasn't sure he had a massive ego before, but listening to the ex-wife speak I was cringing. Made him sound like the big ole fame whore he's turned out to be. I did like that he told Oprah to get her ass in gear cause he wasn't the one getting sued. Anyone that can put Oprah in her place automatically earns a special place in my TV schedule.

Thanks a bunch, Masked_Spangler! ( I have less and less need to leave the house.)

Robin's two hours in the bathroom ties in with some strange stuff she was saying on a show recently about her boys understanding that she had to have her special "girl time" every day. Hey I've always been a "girl" in a household of men and I never actually felt that I needed a special block of time for it. This also explains why her biggest gripe about Phil is that he doesn't compliment her appearance enough. I guess if you've devoted your entire day to it you expect a certain amount of slobber and drool. Remember, she also works out everyday, shops a lot for those matching shoes and skirts, botox appointments, nails, etc. Girlfriend's going to have a mighty hard time dealing with old age.

Don't forget that Robin has gone through menopause "better than anyone" DrP has ever seen - she did all that research. When the author of "Before the Change" was on Robin was up there bobbing her head and CORRECTING the expert. Because of course Robin's way is the only way.

How in the hell has Jim lost so much weight? Good God!

And Terri's hair is still poo.

Jim's starting to look kind of hot! His wife better turn her attitude around now. After this episode I'm really seeing the infomercial-likeness you all have been talking about. They were just pumping this thing up weren't they? But I kind of like that they each get to help a friend. Ahh, here's to the next generation of famewhores.

Infomercial is exactly right!

I stopped watching the weight loss infomercial yesterday about halfway through--and that was after I fast forwarded through the first part.

All ass-kissing Dr. Phil, all the time. Recap the same old story and then a bit of new ass-kissing. The new people are just to refresh this tired story; and get more spokeswhores for DP.

How much do you wanna bet that we will soon be seeing DP Vitamins?
And "Robin's Menopausal Wonder Pills"!
And "Jay's Cool Teen Vitamins"!

How can people whore themselves without conscience? DP, don't you have enough money? What is it you're humping so hard for? You got fame, you got money. Why you resorting to total ego gratification, i.e., fame whoring and selling your soul on tv? What are you substituting this crap you call a show for in your life? How's it working for you? Let's have a show about that.

I don't get it. As I get older in my life, I'm trying to simplify my needs and wants and lifestyle. Who needs leopard shoes? I want calm, peace, time to enjoy the day light. I just don''t get the drive to run something into the ground.

Today's show was awesome. It was an "Ask Dr Phil" episode that hearkens back to days of yore. There was this one lady who could not get over her daughter going away to university, and Dr. Phil at one point tries to lay on the "you're making it worse" thing by asking the daughter "Didn't it make you feel bad that your mom was having such a tough time of it?" And the kid says "No, not really." BWAH! You should never ask a question you don't already know the answer to, Dr. Phil.

Later there was a woman who had a phobia about using the phone and Dr. Phil suggests immersion therapy where she make 30 phone calls at once. Then he gets this bright idea, turns to university mom lady and says "On second thought, maybe you should call her! I mean, you'e met her, you're friends now...you can call her and she can complain about her little problems and you can whine about yours..."

He also got in a dig at Robin when he reminded her of the trouble she had when Jay left home and how she was in such bad shape that Oprah did a whole show on it, wherein Robin spent the whole hour sobbing about what a bad mother she was because she did not teach him to cook and she did not teach him to iron so now he is not only far away but hungry and wrinkled. BWAH! That is a really funny exchange to try and picture. Oprah vs Robin. Celebrity deathmatch!

Let's bet $1000 because Dr. Phil's supplements have been on the market for months. Of course, his portions of the profits will be donated to King Lord God Dr. Phil's Foundation for Obese Children or some such other made up orginazation otherwise known as Robin's Shoe Fund.

There is even a banner ad on this site for his supplements which shocked the shit out of me as one of the owners of this site has written for other publications expressing great disdain for Prince Phil.



For the same reason he does everything. Because he can.

Those lazy fathers today! I thought the first one was bad for parking his baby at the day care so he can work out his pretty body for two hours, but the second (ugly) one made me sick. Wont pick up his crying baby until it turns into a scream, lets the baby lie in a dirty diaper til mom gets home, has a bunch of weasily ass excuses for himself, he "just doesn't know how to help." I hate that creep! DP should have opened a real can of whoop ass on him and he didn't.

Words absolutely can not describe the loathing hatred I have for Erin.

Each week of her irritating, camera-whore personality just makes me want to drive a knitting needle into my brain. At the start of this whole freak show of a story, I thought she was crazy for staying with Marty, despite all the shit he pulled on her. Now I feel bad for Marty that he's tied to this insane woman that can't say two sentences without playing to the camera. Every word she says now seems to have some breathily traumatic hint of regret at this wasted life that she can only look back on with bitter, bitter, oh so bitter mirth. Her family is airing it's dirty laundry on national TV, to the detriment of both her daughters and her own grandson... but damn it, Erin is going to take her place in the spotlight and dance like she's never done danced before!

Seriously. If she wants to be on TV so damn bad, she can go get hunted down by the Salem Serial Killer.

Good one Corbin! "Wrin's going to dance like she never danced before!"

So was it in Dr. Phil's plan to make us hate this family? It's working.
Assholes.

Again, Dr. Phil said that the family was "inspiring us with their candor."
Inspiring us to hate them? Inspiring us to turn away from this
fucking trainwreck? Inspiring his pockets with more money is more like it.

I believe I have had it with them. I'm going over to the Ellen camp where her
snarkers just talk about how funny she is and how great the show is.

Dr.Phil's FUF just brings me down. Makes me "eww" with the crap, and excuses, and the stupidity of them all. Marty can stay in Germany. Everyone would be better off.

Here's my prediction: Marty and Erin will get divorced--after all according to DP couples can get divorced ifthey have tried everything to keep their marriage working--and they have. I hate Marty. Erin is loathesome for all her phoniness and indecision. Just fucking kick him out!! Princess Alexandra should shut her trap or go and figure out how to survive on her own. Katherine should go away to boarding school just to get out of thehouse and save herself. Dr. Phil, you made me hate these people, that Icould care less about. How's that working for you?

Soon,DP will have a new show! Divorce Dailies! How Erin and Marty are going through the divorce, figuring finances and separating, and how it's affecting the kids, etc. And we'll have the same shit: tears, blaming, fighting, snottiness, and just plain crap. That' s not what I want to see on tv.

Honestly. If I wanted that, I could find somewhere closer to home -- maybe my own neighborhood. And it would still be just as mundane.

IMO:
It's glorified teen pregnancy.
Every one of them has played to the camera.
This family deserves each other.
God help that baby.

And oh yeah, since I'm bitching -- if I have to see that fucking Carnie Wilson commercial one more fucking time I'm going to find her and staple her mouth shut to go along with her stomach.

Word to your mom. I feel so sorry for Katherine, she's obviously crying out for help ("I want to be adopted and I have picked out the family") but everyone in that house is so self-absorbed no one even notices or cares, other than the cringe-inducing "my father came to pick me up at school."

I swear, that girl has the best head on her shoulders of anyone in the family and they are going to totally mess her up. DP doesn't help at all with this by suggesting that Kate look at it from her parents' points of view (honestly, teenagers can't do this very well), telling her that she is part of the problem (check me if I am wrong but who are supposed to be the adults in the house?) and generally dismissing her problems as histrionic. Of course she screams at her mom, it's the only way to get her attention and it's the only bit of power she has ("I know, Erin!" priceless).

I, too, fear for the baby.

I'm right there with you, but let's use a nail gun! How can she "literally" have a second chance at life?

I have never seen the FUF in action, but after reading everyone's descriptions of this POS family, I am starting to LOATHE the name "Erin". She sounds like a super-duper megabitch.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one to wonder why Marty and Erin didn't hug when Marty found out he was going to Germany.

Favorite parts from the FUF: Erin's sister calling her a lying, backstabbing bitch and the redhead shrieking "What's wrong with these people??" I could watch that every day.

On another note, Future-Mr. SnowDog and I went out to eat a new restaurant that featured a mural of celebrities associated with our town. Dr. Phil was right in the middle of it. I had to stare at his ugly mug for the whole damn meal.

Angela hasn't lost much weight, has she?

According to the DrPhil.com site *shudders* Angela has lost 47.5 lbs. Monika has lost the least amount with 36 lbs. If you look at the percentage of weight lost, Monika has lost 18.2% of her starting weight and Angela has lost only 10.2% of hers. Angela has lost the smallest percentage of her weight.

And if two trains leave Detroit going 49 miles an hour...

BTW, is Leslie still in this thing or has King Lord God Dr. Phil decided not to show her anymore cause she's so annoying?

I feel a little bad because all this time that the contestants have been losing weight, I haven't really noticed that much of a difference in their look until today and even then, only in some of them. That D.J. lost over 50 pounds and I'm still not seeing the difference that number implies.

By the way, has anyone noticed that Terri's hair is morphing back to its racoon mullet days?

As for Bully Phil, I hate seeing these weight loss success stories because they become tributes to his healing powers. It's the All About Phil Hour. These people sweat their asses off but who gets the credit for their amazing turn around? Jay gets brow beaten into working on his father's show and schmoozing teens and gamely puts his face on the cover of his father's book for juniors and what does he get for his subserviance? An emasculating reminder who rules the satellite... as well as the roost. And that person would be?

When is Dr. Phil's ego going on a diet?

The latest weightloss show is making my snark radar go off. This is a mere 6 months into their "program for life". The proof is every year, DP goes back to these guys and checks up on them as LONG as he has a show!!!!

Hmmmmm.......lets look at this with a little statistics. Oh...them nasty statistics he likes to play with. With these key points, that only he can put together [yeah, right].

- DP was able to motivate 10? of them to stay with the program.
But what will they do when they go home by themselves for a year?

I think in the years to come 4 will make it 1 - 2 years, with perhaps 2 going on with a real lifestyle change.

Which leads to another question, will DP even be around that long.

Did anyone see Oprah today? She was totally copying DPs weightloss trend, and even had some totally lame guy on, who's book cover I thought looked a bit like DPs. I was laughing so hard when I saw that....

His big mojo magic? Don't eat after 9pm. And we want our tummies to growl because that means we are losing. BLECH, WRETCH ....SNARKLIKE PROJECTION VOMIT ALL over the big O.

hehe...wonder if DP is sweating in the henhouse now?? LOL

Exactly!! Thank you for pointing this out. They were all praised for losing the weight over the Xmas holidays which was just last freaking month. These are great accomplishments, but isn't the whole point of the 7 keys to weight loss that its a forever thing? I've seen absolutely no evidence this will last longer than any other thing these people have tried. We shall see.

And total WORD to the after 9pm thing. If you usually go to bed at 2am, there's no point in starving yourself the rest of the night and until morning! It's not when you eat so much as how much and what. Blah.

Oprah's show featured Bob Green. It was a one year follow up for his weight loss contract that was featured in O Magazine. This is an ongoing interest of Oprah's. Please, she's not the one marketing supplements and teen books and the whole huckstering industry that Dr. Phil is promoting.

Actually, I think all 10 participants will do well with maintaining their weight for the rest of their lives. I lost 60 lbs. 5 years ago and it has been easily maintained aside from the occiasional extra 5 or so during holidays or vacation. We are creatures of habits and patterns, both healthy and unhealthy. Once you substitute healty habits for the unhealthy, its all downhill. The first 4 months are the hardest, by far.

And even if they don't have the pressure of meeting Dr. Phil once every week or so, they will always have the pressure of being "the person that was on Dr. Phil" by the everyday world that they will always live in. That's one of the reasons its always critical to build some sort of support group. Not so much for the positive reinforcement as the feeling of letting others down. Thousands of people make lifestyle changes every day without meeting with Dr. Phil.

So right,Haiymango. So funny too,esp.about DP Jr.Jay's emasculation. The FUF family also contributedto that when they basically poopoohed Jay's advice and did not follow his guidance when he visited them. Ha! The FuF family willnot listen to anyone exceptDP--and then not much.

The weightloss shows are an infomercial for KLG DrPhil. That's all.

BTW, Oprah, has been doing weightloss shows for years. Bob Green has earned her endorsement due to th practicality of his methods, as well as coming up with the "change your lifestyle" mantra, that DP and other diet gurus are espousingnow.

I bel DP had a fit when Oprah had Bob Green on the show instead of pulling his ass back from LA Beverly Hills.

Oh no I totally agree about that part, Elrhino. I lost 70lbs also 5 years ago and am at my best weight ever, I could never go back. Of course, I was never at the kind of weight these guys were at and I'm not convinced of some of their dedication. Some are clearly All Stars and have made that change, but others I really don't believe so. But yeah I agree!

I so totally hated the what you have to do to be a man BS Dr. Phil was spewing all over the place yesterday. Dr. Phil? Dr. Laura called. She wants her spiel back.

I loved today's show. The one lady with the internet "fiancee" was so delusional at best. I can't believe she wasted 5 years with that loser! I really don't understand what she was thinking, maybe she just fooled herself at first that it kept on going or something. I loved how DP sent those PI's to find out about that guy, otherwise she NEVER would've believed it was true, or admitted it. Her parents seemed so caring, yet helpless, the way her father cried and thanked Dr. Phil broke my cold black heart. Aww.

katymo I saw the preview but missed that part of the show. Was the internet guy married or something? What happened?




ETA: Thanks katy

Well it turned out there was no guy by the name he gave her (Rob Johnson), the address he gave her was a mobile home owned by an old couple. There was a guy who lived there also with the name Rob something (not Johnson) who WAS married with an 8 year old and a 13 year old that they knew of. They also found there was no Rob Johnson that worked for the company he said he worked for. They didn't say who for sure was the one writing to her, etc., but either way the guy was definitely NOT who he said he was. Personally, I think it was one of the kids writing to her, they showed a brief shot of one of 'his' letters and it seriously looked like a small child wrote it! I don't know how far they took it, whether they spoke on the phone at all or if it was just typing. She said she knew it deep down and is relieved to hear it. Mhm.

Dang it! The one day I forget to record Dr. Phil and something vaguely interesting had to happen. Did anything else happen, katymo?

Good lord. Thanks for the recap katymo. I saw the preview but forgot to tape it. Um, had this woman not heard of google? Or am I the only overly suspicious person out there. I think some day at lunch I probably would have called his office just to hear his voice or googled him to see what else he's done. But I can't believe that she didn't ever speak to him for FIVE years. Moron.

Her response after the discoveries that "Rob Johnson" didn't exist just made my jaw drop. Dr. Phil told her the guy's been lying. Her response? "Wouldn't be the first time." HELLO! What does that tell you?? Talk about some SERIOUS self esteem issues.

The Dr. Phil Drinking Game:

1. Every time DP cuts to a picture of one of his books, drink!

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Ok, I'm watching the tape of the Man Show and I just have to get something off my chest. What is so wrong with internet porn (or porn in general)? I'm a woman and I watch. I don't care if my fiance watches. Porn is not the problem. It only becomes a problem if there are already issues in the relationship. I'm tired of hearing all the talk shows say how bad porn is. Gah.

Thanks, complicatedgirl. I also wonder if society's expectations of who should enjoy porn have something to do with the reactions on talk shows. Now that's a topic I'd like to see DP tackle. Find out why women think they can't watch/enjoy porn!

Agreed, Snowdog. I also grow very tired of whiny women on my television screen crying and complaining about their mens loving porn. Not all of us girls are offended by this, you know. Many of us pull up a chair and enjoy the view.

That doesn't mean we are bad or evil or perverted or love to subjugate women. We just enjoy watching other people have sex.

What I also get ticked off about on shows like DP is that they never take into consideration that men are wired differently than women are. They can look at pornography and really not have it mean all that much, nor have it have much bearing on their relationship. Most men are also not about comparing the women in the porn to their SO.

I look at it this way: I don't care where mr.complicatedgirl gets his appetite, as long as he comes home for supper.

Ooooh, a drinking game! Lets...

1) 1 point if we cut to Robin
2) Extra point if she tells an "amusing" anecdote about Dr. Phil
3) 1 point if she is audible during the part where they walk out together
4) Chug if she gets her own segment

5) "My son Jay..." 1 point
6) "My son Jay has written a book on..." 1 point
7) Baby pictures of Jay or the other kid, 1 point
8) Chug if the other kid ever shows up

Add me to the list of Wives Who Aren't Threatened by Porn. (Just highly amused by really bad porn.) Not to say there isn't some sick shit out there -- I mean hey, if I wanted that kind of pain, I'd watch American Idol -- but not all of it's bad!

Hey let's start a Dr. Phil support group, for wives who don't mind porn! I have even bought porn for my husband on occasion. Does this make me a bad person? Or maybe just a woman with a healthy attitude toward sexuality and exploring it within the bonds of her monogamous relationship?

Topic: I bet Dr. Phil gets into the nasty internet porn while he's up late at night doing "research". I mean, he has to fill the hours somehow while Robin is in the bathroom moisturizing and spackling and using her home botox kit.

And while we're on that subject, Dr. Phil has some nerve telling that guest yesterday not to get plastic surgery. His wife is a walking bilboard for "getting a little work done". Physician, heal thy wife.

Another porn-loving wife here. :) I think that porn would only become a problem with me and Mr. El if instead of spending time with me he'd lock himself in a room to watch it. Otherwise, I don't see a problem with it.

Oh, that girl with the internet "fiance". Awesome! But didn't her parents say that she was constantly on the phone with him? So she had heard his voice before...doubt it was some 13 year-old putting her on for five years. And they were supposed to elope! Hahahahah! Burn. Also, she broke up with an actual, real boyfriend for the pretend internet one! Hee hee hee! I think I lack a life.

LMAO … that slayed me up. She actually said “He’s not a very good liar”. Uh … sweetie …. If he’s not a very good liar, why did you have to go to the Dr. Phil show so he could hire a private investigator to find the real scoop on your 5 year long imaginary internet love interest ?? Sounds like a pretty good liar to me ... or you're really gullible.



I totally agree. Am I supposed to run off crying to lock myself in the bathroom screaming “Am I not enough for you ??” every time my girlfriend comes back from Blockbuster with a romantic comedy starring Mel Gibson or Hugh Jackman as the suave, hunky male lead. As far as I’m concerned, men watching porn (in moderation) is the equivalent of a woman reading a cheap romance novel … its all fantasy and escapism. It has nothing to do with your spouse.

I'm not a fan of watching porn, I prefer it in the written form, but my husband does enjoy watching and I've no problem with it.

The young girl with the internet fiance was very sad. I think maybe she went on Dr Phil to get the truth and end her damaging fantasy. Hopefully she can now get on with her life and find a warm body to love.

DP's Show on Men:
The guy with the NewYawk accent bugged me. I like the accent--hate the adenoidal voice! He was hard to listen to because his nose sounded so stuffed up, it gave me a sinus headache. And that was his real voice. And he was way too sincere. Total 180 shift--what the hell miracle pill did he take? Give some of it to Marty (and Erin too)! ASAP!

Wed; Show: The couple with howmanykids?! 2 and twins on the way? And she is saying that her husband is not her true love? That's a crime then to have kids in a half-hearted marriage. I hate her. And DP's advice? Hubbie "needs to get in the game". Huh? Commercial. That's all! This couple needs serious long term counseling to get back on track and start acting "as if" for the children's sake. The hubbie is disconnected and the wife is nuts--I mean, confused. What a shame. Those poor kids. The wife needs to step up and work on herself instead of expecting others to make her happy. Hubbie needs to take back his cajones from her--and get a vasectomy asap so no more kids!

The deluded internet lover? Something is very off there too with her. If she still lives at home with Mom and Dad, that is weird considering she looked mid-twenties at least. If she was trying to piss them off, she screwed herself. And her friends didn't insist on her meeting him or them checking him out? Didn't her friends get that intuitive skeeviness about this situation? And fuck yeah, with all the news reports about internet scams against young girls, there is no way. She wanted to live in a dream and escape the world. Crazy. No, that woman has a problem and needs some definite help to get her shit together. Seriously psychotic to let it go that long. It's. Just. Not. Right.

Love the drinking game. How about drinking when DP rehashes and promotes himself: example: the Love survey in Oprah magazine. I watched my tape and after every commercial DP does the same spiel with the words mixed up to sound new. "I did this gigantic survey --the biggest survey in the world--and it's in O magazine whose founder I kiss ass for, and it is cool, and guys can read it too, and you can find yourself in the survey!" This show has become so canned. Same ol', same ol'.

Oh, and I like porn. The acting is good for laughs too. Endorphins all around.

Drink whenever one of the FUF says a critic has "issues!"

Mr. loudfan and I have joked in the past about doing a Dr. Phil drinking game. Here are some we came up with.

Drink:

-Whenever Dr. Phil gives a gift to everyone in the audience ("If you'll look underneath your seats...")
-Every time he uses the phrases "get real," "how's that workin' for ya'?" or "your definition of success as a man"
-If Dr. Phil mentions his trial-consultation business
-Every time a guest cries
-Eat some chocolate if J.J. the nutritionist shows up

Don't forget

-Every time DP says, "The price of poker just went up."
Note to self: make trip to liquor store.

Here are some more from Mr. loudfan:

- If a guest gets to sit in Dr. Phil's chair while he stands between the
chairs
- He mentions/jokes about hair/baldness
- Cut to nodding person in audience
- Two if they cut to person in audience shaking head
- If any audience vote ("How many of you think...") is less than 10 people or more
than 90% of the people

And more from me:
-If DP says, "Even the flattest pancake has two sides"
-Every time PreCor equipment or Gold's Gym are mentioned
-Chug if DP comments on how expensive the PreCor equipment is

Yes, Martin, your father was a great guy. That must be why you've never met him. Dunce. And for the love of all that is good and holy, grow some plums and stop. Crying.