I haven’t seen this show in weeks, except in glances, since it's been repeats. I watched most of today’s show, which was, whatever, but the worst part was the promo for next season, with the anorexic. Jesus. Phil doesn’t stop at using anybody for ratings, does he?

I really miss the original Phil, Donahue. Yes, he pandered to ratings, too, but somehow, I felt that there was a core of goodness to him. Or is this just my naivete at that time?

Yeah, Donahue not only respected women he would get irritable with either female guests or audience members who played the ditzy giggle girl or the submissive helpmeet or the wide-eyed idiot. You know the women that give McGraw cozy wood? They nauseated Donahue.

I just saw the episode with Mr. "Shut Your Suck Hole". Wow. Just wow. That guy has the worst bitch-face even now. He told her how to brush her teeth? And she agreed? How does Deanna stand up when she clearly has no spine? Anyway, was Mike the guy that y'all alluded to upthread who killed the dog with the broomstick? He just looks like someone who would hit a dog. He actually makes the mother of the perfect children look sane.

I just learned that one of Mr. loudfan's co-workers owns Dr. Phil's old Corvette. He bought it via eBay and says he got a fantastic deal on it (this was back when Dr. Phil was a regular on Oprah but had not yet launched his own show... in other words, in saner, happier times). He and his wife flew down to Southern California and picked up the car from Dr. Phil's brother in law, who was handling the transaction. (They did get to meet Phil briefly.) Apparently Phil was upgrading to a Ferrari and was waiting for it to be delivered from Italy.

I want to fondle the stick shift! Rrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Nobody puts Philly on page two. Just because he's spent the summer on the French Riviera toasting his new 75 million dollar contract with vintage champagne we should just curl up and forget? Forget Phil and his robot and his spawn and his homilies and his sheen and his sofa-sized suits and his two-hundred dollar ties and his camera takes? Put all of that on a shelf and forget, huh sweetie? Chrissy, get me the big knife! *


*For those who have seen Moonstruck. For those who have not, I'm sane I swear I SWEAR.

Right on, KettlePorn!
After a blissfully Phil-less summer (I refuse to watch the reruns), I was thinking this morning, "Maybe I should just remove Dr. Phil from my TiVo season pass." Break the addiction. But then I went to Phil's web site and saw, "All-New Season 4: You Won't Believe What We Reveal on Sept. 12!" I feel so helpless... I have to watch.

OK, she marries a man she knows used to be a woman. Man adopts and raises children. Suddenly she becomes "saved" and he is evil, immoral and an abomination. And Phil tells the both of them to work together? That they're both harming the kids? WTF? I guess it's too much like work or listening to tell Ms. Ima Christian here's a ladder, get over yourself. And that yes, she does too have to get on board regarding the sex reassignment because that's who he is.

Because God forbid $hill deviate from the script.

Remember, y'all: transsexuals are bad, fucked up people who lie and abuse their kids.

Also, be quick to shut up the assertive female lawyers. They'll get their feminism on you, or something.

Would it have been too hard for Phil to say,"For the purpose of THIS argument, THIS situation, we're going to keep religion out of it completely. Whether you think transexuals are Satan's squash partners or not is irrelevant because he's there, he's fair, get used to it. This is about what is psychologically better for the kids, a pretty clear-cut area. If we get into religion then all hell is going to break loose, you'll commence to quoting scripture, someone may stand up in the audience and speak in tongues or snake handle, and I'm out of my depth in that department, because the last time I prayed it was to ask God how far to kiss Oprah's ass so I could be rich and famous too, and how to keep the shit off my shoes when Bambi dove out the window. Otherwise, I'm lost. Now someone tell that broad lawyer to stop looking me directly in the eye."

ETA: Phil's program now touted as "the most talked about show on daytime television." To quote Steve Martin:I blem muhself.

Had to comment on today's show about s-e-x (doesn't everyone spell it instead of saying it?).
The whoring grandma was freaking me out. I personally don't care that she gets off screwing around with 20-somethings. I can't believe that DrP did not ONCE tell her how STUPID she was and how she was putting herself in danger. She had the reasoning of a teenage slut on spring break. If she wants to do all that, fine, just keep it off my tv.

And the couple who seemed surprise that "swinging" wasn't helping their marriage? WHAT? GET OUT! Huh... go figure. DrP sure gave them he!! up one side and down the other. I guess it's different since they met their's online while Whoring Grandma let the boys pick her up. I'm sure he and Robin would have a caniption if either of their boys woke up next to that strange gal.

<<Dear God.... please don't ever let my mom talk me into going on tv with her so I can be completely humiliated. I'll be good.>>

Does anyone else, besides me, get annoyed with how much increasing airtime Robin Mcgraw is receiving?

It seems like they are rubbing their 'perfect' marraige in everyone else's face like...

"Your marraige isn't working so you should be like us!"

And robin is so vapid that nothing she says matters. All she does is swoon over Dr. Phil, which is good...But I'm sorry but she has nothing important to say and she should stay in the background.

You may stone me now. =) I just had to get that off my chest.

Stone you? We just elected you mayor of the thread.

Not only does Kitty get more and more exposure, so does the rest of the McGraw Boxed Set. We've seen Phil's sisters, his nephew, Robin's sister, various and sundry in-law-McGraws and of course the ginormous buttocked Jay McGraw, who counts as triplets. According to Phil's teaser promos there's a lot more McGraw family fun where that came from, including a make-up enhanced BBJ being trawled through a mall while followed by a hidden camera. Will he be disguised as a transvestite? A woman? A Middle Eastern man? A goth? A perfume sniper? An obese cattle baron with dubious skin afflictions? A bunny? A brahmin? A bum? We dunno. But the snark anticipation is threatening to blow sky high.

Thank god. Lately, I've been watching the show just to ridicule Dr. Mcgraw and his oppurtunistic family!
I feel really bad for his sister in law, but c'mon. How much air time does she need?
And Jay Magraw is the luckiest MOOCHER(Ironically, yesterday's show was about Mooching)plaguerist(isn't copying someone else's work and crediting it as your own plagurism? I think so) ever.
His entire career is based on Riding his father's coattails. And since when is he the voice for the youth of America? Give me a break...

The only member of the family that I respect is the youngest son because he pretty much stays in the background(where he belongs).

At first the pimping of his family was tolerable. But now it's just obnoxious. I used to watch the show to make fun of guests. But now I make fun of Dr. Phil's family.

Yup, they're now pretty much the biggest whores in Whoretown.

I remember the last time today's episode aired about the girl who was called names in high school 30 yrs ago and still couldn't get over it.
DrP was a real ass-hat as he kept giving EJ the business for what alledgedly happened. For the love of pete! She didn't beat her and leave her on the side of the road! What kid doesn't have to put up with the popular snits back in the day? Plus she even came out there to talk to Carrier-of-Grudges about it.

DrP was really overflowing with testosterone as he tried to put EJ in her place! Where were all the lines about C-of-G needing to be responsible for her choices?? That she could not blame EJ for her not going to college and carrying that stuff all this time, in turn making her look at least ten yrs older than her age? I think she was more deserving of being asked "what's your point?" rather than EJ.... who has tons more patience than I would have with C-of-G. Makes me question all the more how much bigger and badder this story has grown over the years.

This is one of those episodes where Phil shows his own scars. He lives that old story of how he and another boy had a playground scrap and his teacher assigned blame to Phil without hearing his side. A 6.9 in the psyche. He was devastated, walled-off, depleted deep in the trust department, ruined because of this awful miscarriage of justice.

Well, balls. We have all been there, Phil, and normally if we suggested a memory not significant sounding was one of our "seven defining moments" you would have Groucho'd to camera three. Then you'd lecture about kiddie fights yadda yadda and it isn't a loss of limb or cancer or a house fire or finding out your dad was the Allstate man and that's why the red hair. You'd have roared and pawed the ground. "Get over it!" you'd bellow,"We're all tired a' carryin' your ass!"

But because you see your breaks in another person's fault lines you react viscerally. Not as a therapist and sometimes not even as a grown-up. It bugs, because with substantial graduate work and a 75 million dollar paycheck we expect more than kneejerk and frowning. Maybe expect you every time to go cognitive feedback and show your guests how to heal and not re-hash, how to grow and not grovel. Sorta doctor, sorta heal thyself.

I agree with you.
The McGraws are pretty much putting a target on their own backs.

This can only end badly.
Just like... Frank/Kathylee/Flight Attendant/Video Camera.

I was walking through Times Square this morning and happened upon a large group of women in blue T-shirts. A TV camera was pointed at them and they were cheering loudly. Each of the women's T-shirts had a physical flaw printed on the front it: FLAT-CHESTED, WRINKLES, FAT THIGHS, and so on. I thought maybe it had something to do with those Dove billboards that are all the rage, the ones with the "real" women in their undies. However, as I passed the group of women, I noticed that the Dr. Phil logo was printed on the backs of their T-shirts. Unfortunately, Jay (BIG ASS), Robin (BOTOX QUEEN) and Phil (BALDY) were nowhere to be found...

A little more info about this little episode was posted at Defamer today. I usually avoid Dr. Phil unless it's on at the gym, but I have to see this episode when it airs...

Sadly there is a member of the Gym I work at that went to this and actually wore one of thoes T-shirts...How any woman can put themselves threw such humiliation at the hands of Phil I will never know.

LOL, good point.


Anyway, I saw yesterday's rerun episode.

I really hate Dr. Phil's confrontational tactics in regards to the majority of his guests.

Look, my ten year highschool reunion is coming up next month. If I had a dollar for every person who picked on me growing up I'd show up to the thing in a luxury helicopter. They teased me mercilessly. I was short(when I graduated I was 5'4, and I'm a guy! thank god for the growth spurt), puny, and prefered Art and English to Physical education. I should have just put a bullseye on my back.
After graduation I carried around alot of residual anger(like that woman), but I realized it wasn't accomplishing anything. So instead of carrying around grudges and hoping for that 'final confrontation' I learned to love myself and put those freaks out of my life for good.

EJ admitted her own insecurities growing up, and I thought it was big of her to show up. That other woman was just a complete and utter basketcase. I mean damn, it has been 30 years. I know emotional abuse is hard, but I would think that during that course of time she would have sought therapy instead of being a famewhore and doing it on Dr. Phil.
Of course the big lummox, Phil, makes EJ seem like the demon seed instead of looking at it from her point of view. How is she supposed to remember whose feelings she hurt three decades ago? Atleast she apologized for it.

Dr. Phil is a pompous know it all, and it would be pretty funny is Star magazine sends a prostitute to his room and makes a sex tape.

Because my friend asked me to!

I went to the taping yesterday.
You can read all about it here.

(I've been reading TWoP for a couple years - mostly reality shows. I'm so excited I have a reason to post!)

I love you and your snark! Best laugh I've had all week, thank you.

If you asked me about anyone I went to school with at least 30 yrs ago, I wouldn't have a clue unless they were a friend. I can't figure out WHY DrP and GrudgeLady were so shocked that EJ couldn't remember her. Ummmm.... maybe, just maybe EJ has GOTTEN A LIFE since high school!

And what else got me was how she and her daughter "lost touch"??? WTF? I would tatoo her # on my forehead if I had been waiting so long. VERY interesting how hesitant the daughter was to jump into the DrP fairytale ending. Good for her. She probably saw all that crap earlier in the show and thought twice.
And why didn't they get a "reacquaintance" trip? Or at least a computer or gift certificate to Bed, Bath & Beyond like everyone else does?

Maybe if you watch that episode backwards or something it would make more sense. There had to be a message in there somewhere.

I also found it strange that you would lose touch...with your DAUGHTER!

Today's episode really broke my heart - I only saw the first 5 mintues (taped the rest), but I wanted to cry for those poor kids. I'm going to watch it later when Hubby gets home. He'll see how good he has it around here when he sees that lady going to town on her husband's stomach as he lays on the floor.

*All joking aside, after seeing/hearing anything like that, it makes me appreciate what I have a little more.

I was channel surfing (honest!) and saw the promo for Dr. Phil's new season. It said: "Dr. Phil will redefine television...again."
Huh? Did I miss the memo that he redefined television before?

As sick and bizarre as today's show was about the alky and his abusive wife, I do wish DrP would do more shows like that. Every few months he surprises me with something like this or the OCD episode or even REAL eating disorders. But for every one of those, we get a kajillion "husband cheats on wife while kids are terrorizing the neighborhood except for the loser down the street who won't move out of his parent's house because he can't hold a job because when he was little his dad cheated on his mom while the kids terrorized the......"and then it cycles over and over.

Oh, and between just us, DrP didn't really redefine television. They just tell him that to keep his ego fed. <sssssshhhhhhhhhh.....>

I'm not sure I agree. On the one hand, that show was about as close as he's come to Springer-esque; but those were real people with some really big problems. And therein lies my misgivings. I don't think Shill can help real people with real problems, I honestly don't. He had a nice little package in the wife who claims a seriously abusive father. Presto, the source of your problems is your father: You're Cured!

The father denied everything, which leaves a big gap of credibility there, in my mind. Also, wifette got the huge brunt of Shill's browbeating, because remember, it is always the wife's fault, unless she's highly attractive.

Hard to say.

Excellent points, Hexel.
I agree that perhaps that is not the best stuff for daytime tv and it would be more effective if it was a "real" psychologist talking with them. I could plainly see how everything kept pointing towards wifey but she was proving his point as she got fired up at him. Hubby was so beaten down (literally) that he seemed scared to say much of anything for fear of getting the vodka beat out of him again.
Suffice it to say, if the roles were reversed there would have been much, much more outrage.

And as far as wanting to see more shows like this, that comes from a psychology / philosophy freak (self-admitted). I found the human behaviour elements interesting although I know we really didn't see anything that wasn't molded by the DrP crew.

Thanks for the fine reconnaissance work, shinggan!! How many Shill-haters posting here would be willing to get off our asses and go into the field, albeit, wearing a T Shirt that says Thunder Thighs? Did you see any "Jelly Ass", "National Geographic Boobs" or "Cankles" tees? Oh that's right--I wasn't there.
What does Shill do when the woman if FAT but still highly attractive? Does smoke come out of his head trying to figure out what to do? Or can't that scenario happen in Shill's Faux Nanner Pie type of world??

I am sure Shill thinks he's more likely to encounter Yeti at a meet-and-greet than ever encounter an attractive fat chick. Like moral/majority, religious/right and dr/phil, fat/attractive is, I'm sure, on his list of oxymorons.

In DrP's world, highly attractive and fat is an oxymoron. Mainly because if she is fat then she obviously has issues = she's a handle!
And if a guy's fat?... well, that all depends on just how fat. Far beit from DrP to judge! <<cough, cough>>

I'm starting to think Oprah's fat-phobia is rubbing off on ol' DrP. Talk about two people who definitely didn't just fall off the turnip truck! ... they then rolled under it and over by it.

Shinggan, Thanks so much for the report! I really laughed about putting 450 mostly menopausal women on a field in the August LA sun...talk about putting one's assistant producers at risk!

I would be so pissed to wear such stupid T-shirts and excuse me, but starting to keep people from personal items for no good reason is just one step away from the cult programming deep slope. Did they take away medications too? Maybe he can invite Tom Cruise to come by -- o wait, that's the Oprah show!

Hey, Dr Phil's loss is eBay's gain.

You forgot, Lazy, Stupid and Disrespectful!

BWAH!!! (squared!)
What about hostile fat ass, dim bulb, feminazi, having my "ladies time", and Not-Robin?

And so there will be a guy's show? Of course, they would only need a few different shirts.... balding, small winkey, wife is pms-ing, and erectialy dysfuncational. (yes, you too can make up your own words!) Other than that, what's the problem?

heh, I love the name 'shill' lol. A pretty apt term for him.

Anyway, I am so sick of all the damn cheating shows. I didn't know that there were people so impossibly stupid.

Yesterday, this woman married a man, after being his mistress for several years...

and she was hurt and shocked that he was having multiple affairs...

well...duh?

Anyway, the couple with the abuse and alcoholism was good but it seemed sensationalist. Did we really need to see her kicking her husband's ass, repeatedly? Furthermore, if a guy were videotaped beating his wife's ass would he get the same preferential treatment? No, shill would have him locked in jail right after the show.

And of course he shirked all the blame on the wife when the husband is coming home every day trashed.

Where in the hell did Shill get his psychology degree?

University of North Texas

That explains everything!

About those dumb shirts: They forgot to put Piggly Wiggly, Krispy Kreme, Tastykakes, Haggen Daz, Blubber, & Moo Moo on their shirts. These women have absolutely no shame.

Watching this schmuck talking about losing weight to these losers makes me want to eat McDonalds every day.

I would be surprised if they even showed such footage if it were a guy smacking around his wife. I also noticed how they kept showing the same footage over and over as if they were all separate occasions. I really don't see the point of such "extreme" episodes if DrP is going to take the route he did. It was more of a freak show / Maury show as he never really got past the sensationalism of it all.

And on an almost different note.... it is REALLY necessary to hear Robin's comments at the end as they walk away? It's just weird after some show where a family was whooped up on and then to hear her say, "that was fun" or "that was wild". I'm sure the nosey Phil-heads inundated the show to mic her at the end of the show.

WireItStraight



from "The Breakfast Club", right?

I knew I remembered that line from somewhere!


On that note, I have two questions.

1.) Does anyone else think that Robin bullied(or nagged) DrP into allowing her to be exposed, all too frequently, on his show?
It's onething to make it a family affair, but honestly I know people don't fly out to listen to a damn thing Jay Magraw and Robin have to say.


2.) How many blueberries do you think would fit inside of DrP's head?

I think they added Robin and Jaybird to appease the "housewife" audience of Oprah's. I agree that they basically add nothing! I don't get why they are even on there as far as giving any "advice". Let's just go ahead and rename the show The McGraws or how about Phil & Phamily.

Anytime I see that Robin is going to be on, I know it's going to be a bunch of a) giveaways on top of giveaways and b) expensive, not-at-all practical suggestions for the viewers.
Whenever I see that Jay is going to be on, I know it's going to be a) a younger version of DrP (Jay has NO original ideas) and b) the son of a kajillionaire who will never be for want dressed like a frickin' slob on national tv. Enough already with the torn jeans and untucked shirt! I would think Robin would have taught her brillian boys MUCH better than that! ;-)

As long as they're quoting movies for t-shirt messages, how about "Fat, Drunk, and Stupid" from Animal House?

Really, y'all, I just can't stand to watch any more. The depths to which this man has sunk over a short period of time are mind-boggling. He and Oprah are both becoming monstrous caricatures of their earlier selves and they seem to be pulling each otherward downward into a double helix of self-absorption and cluelessness.

I'd plan to tune in for the new season's shows, but I don't think my television screen can take any more abuse from stuff being thrown at it.

Phil fell off the wagon?

Shere poetry. Truer words were never typed... and I couldn't have said it better myself. Btw, what color IS the sky in Harpo-land???

Black with very thin clouds, of course!

More like an acceptable shade of brown (the lighter, the better, you know) with thin clouds.

Now, what color is the sky in Philtopia?

I'm sure y'all come with better ideas, but: red, white & blue?

Patriarchal Single-Income Green on his half, powder puff pink on Robin's half, and looking-up-from-under-the-sole-of-his-shoe-where-he-squashed-us brown for the rest of us.