Between the mentions of "cutting off the yellow parts" of the used panties and the dad who invited everyone into the bathroom to come see his bowel movements, yesterday's Phil should have come with a warning for those of us who dine while we watch TV.

I opened my Montreal Gazette this morning and guess what? Dr Phil and a bunch of other self-help authors are going to be in town this July. Thankfully, I probably won't be here.

I didn't see anything wrong with what most of the frugal mom was doing. What's so wrong with re-using plastic bags? I do it all the time! I even have a special drying rack for them. I've also saved and washed plastic forks. Why thow away something that can be reused? Is it better to let it fill up landfills? Why be so wastful? My son has a bookshelf and a toy box that were both rescued from the trash during our city's large item trash pick up. With paint for both and very minor repairs to the toy box they both look good as new!

For me it's not even about saving money (although that helps). I just think that as a society we're way to wastful. Now, I would never buy used underwear or someone else's half-used deoderant but why should I (or Dr Phil) care if someone else does? Different stokes for different folks I guess.

I agree. Back when he was on Oprah, he was interesting (along with Gary Zukov on his own day). However, that was before DrP began to get in his own way. All he truly seems interested in is living that Hollywood life.... and who the heck cares about any of that crapola?!

He has become even more irrelevant than any of us could ever imagine.
He is making a mockery of of any form of counseling with this "drive-thru" approach of "just don't do that!" or by jumping all over a guest, or more often the case of jumping on the ass of the wrong guest!
It's disturbing, or should be, for anyone who is actually in the field of counseling and can see the real "mess" going on before a live audience. If nothing else, it is a lesson in how to totally throw the ethics book out the window.
It would sure be refreshing to see the true counselors and therapists who want to help others do something to emphasize that he should NOT be considered "one of them" and that what he says should not reflect TRUE counseling.
This guy is nothing more than Maury with a comma and letters after his name.

Pitiful.

Yep, right now his audience is holding him back from true talk-show curb dwelling. He has the topics, the give-aways, the drama. All he needs is audience members booing, jeering, high-fiving one another and pointing to the exits, weighing in that the cheating guest isn't "all that" or needs to call Jenny Craig, a classic crowd pleaser. The guest shoplifter with the nineteen illegitimate children would retort, of course, that "you don't KNOW me!" and Phil would sit like a Texas Buddha, only portlier, while his security guards rush about, untangling fisticuffs.

Near the end of the program, a good friend of the show with three self-help bestsellers would opine that today's guests are in need of her newest tome,"Why You Must Get Honest About Your Casual Thieving and Breeding: Twenty Steps to Getting Real." Phil will hold it up and announce that under each audience members' chair is a coupon for twenty-five percent off at Border's, where they might also check out his newest book,"Phil McGraw: I Sold My Soul For a Pot of Message and Top Notch California Real Estate, and You Can Too."

God but that would be pretty.

PS I dreamed the other night that while Phil was driving me around in his Porsche, a group of young rabbinical students started pelting him with eggs. I'm completely serious. I'm not into dream interpretation, but if anything could subconsciously cry "God is trying to tell you something" maybe it was that.

With the thrifty mom, I got the sense that she found much gratification at the idea of saving $ in any way possible- to the point of going out of her way for things she may not even want or need, but doing so b/c it saves $- like a gold star on some imaginary score board in her mind. I agree w/timeonmyhands about how wastfulness our society is, and I certainly find Thrifty Mom's habits a lot easier to digest than her counterpart. And I'm totally going out on a limb here... but maybe Thrifty Mom is trying to make up for her weight/size? In historian Peter Stearns' book Fat History, he discusses how, in the US, as we became material consumers, the desire for thiness counteracted it. So now there's this dichotomy of weight/money, where we allow ourselves to spend, spend, spend, but harshly criticize those who eat, eat, eat.

Or it could be penis envy.

For a while in the 90's thrift became a religious movement with the guru being that woman in Maine with all the "Z"'s in her name. Her detractors asked why she had a large family on a miniscule income and wondered why she didn't have better things to do than make kibble from scratch. I couldn't understand why anyone cared one way or another. One woman's junk is another woman's divan.

There will always be people who live in eco-friendly homes and use biodegradibles and eat vegan to what others would call extreme. But there will always be those (like our ruddy Phil) who believes money and all that it can purchase is the best salve, trying to convince the world that his massive expenditures are appropos of nothing and his ho-willie is of standard size.

There is a whiff of interesting about both lifestyles but hardly enough to Phil a hour. After all, the less interesting the guest the more that sonuvabitch natters.

parsleysage, I just couldn't resist saying it. Would not even occur to me to use that phrase anywhere else. That particular epi bothered the crap out of me cos EJ was ambushed. Wish I hadn't watched it.
I don't throw a paper route but occasionally I throw things at my husband. hee hee Think we can get on the show!

I have three of Amy Dacyczyn's book, The Tightwad Gazettes, and I read them mostly for entertainment. If you want to save money, she was helpful. Here are three of the books in one book.

In the latest American Idol recap, the recapper does a bonus recap of Dr. Phil's show about bullies (because of Clay being on). It is enjoyable, here are a few good quotes from the recap:

My favorite on today's show about pre-nups?

Check out the taped piece as the lead-in back to the discussion with the teary woman who got pre-nupped 30 days before her wedding (halfway through her portion of the show and after the commercial break). At least in my time zone, (CST) they forgot to obscure the names.

Cayce Wellborn Moore, Jr., hereafter known as HUSBAND...how fast will you be suing the Dr. Phil show? Or at least the minyons working the Photoshop?

Unfortunately there was no good Googling to be had on the name, outside of his City of residence and phone number, that is.

When I read the above message there was a black line over some of the words.
"Cayce Wellborn Moore Jr." I had to tap on the black line with the cursor a couple of times to read it. Why is this??

Because it's a spoiler, and spoilers are pieces of information about upcoming episodes of a show that some people may not wish to know ahead of time. Those who do merely highlight the words in black, and then you can read them.

Finally go to see the repeat last night of the couples who are in debt. Three observations:
1. Yuppie Couple wife--I wanted to smack her so hard her face would fly to Cinncinatti. How do you spell the name of that river in Egypt ??? Also, Honey--don't go to Antwerp, the diamond capitol of the world, to buy a 3 karat diamond ring. Go to Jersey.

2.Millionaire Corvette Couple: for starters--who does this guy look like??? I think its a combo of David Duchovny and Gary Busey **shivers**. Anywhoo--nice house you've got there--looks like The Armory. And who gives a company to their girlfriend to run, especially when she dresses like a Fashion Bug Assistant Manager??

3. Lobster Face Couple--I sure wish some of that 75 grand or whatever was spent on 2 series of facial peels. Whoowee--ever heard of staying out of the sun because it is A G I N G?? Also, the guy's hair bugged.

I know; I kept thinking he could have spent some of that $750k on a better rug.

What do get when you cobble together a Dr Phil show when you're hung over and on deadline? Today's fine kettle of mess. "Mom" # one? Honey, there have been Mama Barflies as long as there's been hooch. Their kids roam the neighborhood with unwashed faces and loaded diapers and then run off with the first jerk or jerkette who crooks their finger so they might perpetuate the cycle. Your future? From what I've seen it will be premature old age and disability caused by alcohol where you'll attempt to live on a small check in a poorly lit room where your kids will ignore you. Your whole body, by the way, will look exactly like your neck does now.

Model girl knows everything. She must learn by lurching into walls. She appeared pretty erudite next to Knob, who proclaimed that she "don't know what [she] don't
know!" Well, yes. I mean sure. I too don't know what I don't know, but I thought that was a universal human truth.

Engaged Bullwinkle Woman? Burn the Moose. Move on. Your story offers nothing. I have a brother-in-law who liked to eat supper with a nine-iron between his knees. Habit, he said. My neighbor kept a picture of Goldwater on her nightstand. Like your moose, it is neither worth noting nor enlightening to anyone else.

But, Care Bear Guy? Now there's stink coming off the video. Phil you could have mentioned fetishism. Phil you could have mentioned juvenile behavior as pathology in adults. Phil you could have mentioned that role-playing could be sign of a serious disorder. Phil you should have apologized for creeping me out. Poor Man's Neverland, I thought. And even if this guy is as benign as a church bake sale, bleh.

Sorry, MyraA, it wasn't technically a spoiler, but I didn't know how Kosher it was just to put the guy's name up there, so I used the Spoiler technique.

Anyone looking forward to seeing what FUF1 is up to these days?

ETA: I finally figured our who Lobster Face Guy reminds me of - bugging hair and all - David Leisure!

OMG! "Jay dates a lot of models". I hurt my neck laughing at that shit. I'm sure you slooooowly and leisurely pored over their portfolios. Strictly research, you understand. I leave it to the fabulous Gemmadoll to say lots of hilarious comments about that. Because, ow! my neck!

The strange thing to me was when the 20 year old guy used the phrase "role playing"...it sounds weirdly sexual. But part of me wondered if Phil would've said the same things to a 20 year old woman who collected Care Bears, even if she used the same creepy "role playing" language.

Moose lady scared me a bit. I'm a 23 year old woman, and I still have my stuffed toys, and sometimes when I'm feeling depressed or in pain I hug them, but I can't imagine why anyone would bring a giant moose to bed with their fiance and plan on bringing it on the honeymoon.

Part of me hopes both care bear boy and moose lady embellished their stories just to get on TV or win a bet or something.

The Care Bears thing can't be real, it just...can't, for the sake of my faith in the world. I've never seen anything so bizarre and creepy.

I don't even know why the model girl was even there, she obviously thought she knew everything and wanted to hear what she wanted to do anyway.

Oh and I'm totally looking forward to the FUF1 family update! Nathan is too cute for words.

When's that going to be? I didn't see it on his website.

I had rotator cuff pain for several years b4 I had surgery, and so I trained myself to sleep hugging a pillow, to aleve the pain. Now 5 post-surgery years later, I still must sleep hugging a pillow. So I understand her "habit" but I'll bet she could wean herself off Bullwinkle by starting with switching to a pillow, and then hugging that fine looking guy she has there.
Oh it's real alright. Ever type in the search words "Adult Baby Clothes" into Ebay? A whole 'nuther world awaits us out there, my friends..
Holey Christ!! Thank God Shill is not on radio, becuase if I had been driving when I heard that, my life would be over today. Yeah, the kind of portfolios that BBJ's girlfriends have are more properly stored in a magazine rack next to the john, or between the mattress and box spring of a pre teen boy. Not to many DD's in French Vogue lately.

And of course, none of those "models" were aware when they started dating him that Jay was the son of a rich, famous TV star and that Daddy had bought him his own TV show. Jay would never brag about something like that just to impress the ladies. they're just with him because he's really HOT.

Y'know, the Care Bears guy reminded me of a Vanity Fair article a couple of years back about people who are sexually attracted to stuffed animals and to wearing animal costumes. I think they called themselves "plushies" and the reporter on the story went to a convention (!) to interview several of them. Very, very weird stuff. I bet Mr. Care Bear is one of them.

That article is the only thing I've ever read that discusses the phenomenon in detail, but I have seen the random reference to plushies in other places. It's entirely possible that the good doctor is unaware of this (apparently) growing subculture.

Off to google "plushies"...

CSI did a plushies convention storyline a couple years ago, so I think it's pretty well out there in terms of the media. Phil MUST know of it, although I doubt he'd admit to it, because that would go against his down-home, football-lovin' image.

You know what would be awesome though? If there were a Phil-and-Robin Plushie Scandal. Can't you imagine the photos of Robin dressed up in a cat costume, with Phil as a rooster, on the cover of the Enquirer? He's so overdue for a fall from grace that I have to hold out hope for something like that...

If you speak baby talk to a child, he or she will shun adult language and converse in baby talk for the rest of his or her life. This is true. There are also lamps made in the Middle East that if you rub them just so a scantily clad man appears in a vapor and grants you three wishes. I'm surprised Phil hasn't mentioned that.

My bullshit meter strains with a lot of almighty clunks and rattles when I view Phil, but today the damn thing exploded.

(Oh and as a bitter PS, if you marry a woman who professes to HATE your child then you deserve the frostbitten ho-willie she is sure to inflict. Enjoy, AssPrince.)

I was really surprised Dr. Phil didn't mention anything about plushies. It was the very first thing I thought of as soon as they said the words "role playing" and showed pics of him dressed up.

Oh, stop the madness. You have got to be fucking kidding me. Who marries a woman who says with a straight, earnest face that she hates your daughter? Hates your child?

I'm not sure what is more frightening: That the lunatic who hates his child has children of her own or that Lunatic and Dad could see no correlation between the daughter's behavior and their treatment of her. Nope, couldn't be that!! Mean Mommy must be planting ideas about them in her head.

Lunatic nodded in all the right places and said all the right things but her overall expression just reeked of the arrogance that comes with knowing that weak assed man next to her would snap right back in line once they were home. Poor kid.

It does make me wonder though. I'm certain Lunatic would never stand for her own children to be mistreated. So what then would compel her to be with a man who would allow himself to be so controlled and let his own child to be so slighted?

Oh nevermind. What am I worried about? Dr Phil has a chapter about it in one of his fifty eleven books. Don't cry for them Argentina. They have the book now. Whew. Close one.

Dude, who are these men who marry scary bitches, tell their child's mother that the child is not wanted unless she shapes up, and then cry like fools about how when the daughter declined to visit it was like "a dagger in [his] heart"????????????

There needs to be some kind of campaign where men get their balls back, cause this shit has got to go. I think Bruce gets stuck in the garage if he disagrees with hobitchwife or that she just pulled a Law&Order and gave the guy a homemade lobotomy.

Oh, and kids act out after divorce and remarriage, who'd a thunk it? I'm getting blisters on my brain since I'm back to watching the Phil.

Hate, Hate, Hate that blonde-haired bat today. I feel sorry for that nine-year-old girl. I would hate to be treated like the disgusting leftovers from a failed marriage.

Can't wait to see FUF1. Little Nathan looks so cute. And what problem could Alex be facing now? Another pregnancy? Being a single mom and going to college?

Somewhat interested in that cult ep coming up. I'm confused, though. If the show is about women who worship their husbands and live to pop out babies, why is that a problem for Phil? Isn't that his idea of the perfect wife? Granted, none of those women looked like they drank aloe and lived at Bally's, but sheesh, not everyone can be Robin.

I live in British Columbia. There is a polygamist sect in Bountiful, BC., a few kilometres from Creston, BC. Girls as young as 14 or 15 are smuggled up from Idaho to marry old men in Bountiful-they are trying to vary the gene pool. They call themselves the Fundamentalist Church of the Latter Day Saints-really screwed up Mormons comes to mind. They claim they practice polygamy- if these old men married women their own age I don't think anyone would care. What they really practice is hebephilia. (attraction to post-pubertal youth as opposed to pre-pubertal children which is the true definition of pedophelia. Hey, what can I say, I learned a new word today!!).

Debbie Palmer, who escaped from Bountiful as an young adult, wrote a book about it called "Keep Sweet". I recently ordered it and it just arrived in the mail today. I wonder if Shill is having the Idaho sect or perhaps the Bountiful group on the show.

http://www.polygamyinfo.com/plygmedia%2004%20283calgary.htm

http://www.faithandmedia.org/articledetail...ocid=1114177064

I've heard of them. I figured it was either them featured or the ones in Colorado City/Hildale. A serious subject, but no doubt Phil will fuck it up somehow.

He should stick to pregnant teens and women who get too much plastic surgery.

And Makai is coming back for another ratings boosting episode! Dr. Phil's going to ride this horse till it collapses. I'm envisioning Makai and Phil co-authoring a book together in the near future.

Edited 'cause I can't spell Makai (which is still probably misspelled.)

I am really looking forward to the show where Phillofish gives Omarosa the smackdown!

I would be happier if Omarosa smacked Phulofit.

Braaaaad! We need a hebe-word for him, like hebejeebeeblondophile. What a stone cold creep. I was really hoping Phil would hit him and it's a rare day when I'm rooting for Phill.

I'll bet darlin Brad has a strain of STD for every hair that's missing from his homely head. If ever there was an argument for the full body condom, it's Fester.

And what was the deal with the skank? "Oh don't say my real name or show my face to protect my innocent precious children and standing in the community." Bitch, your kids are already fucked up and everyone knows you're a whore, so why you frontin'?

So VERY true! The whole back-to-the-camera-and-use-an-alias thing, I GUARANTEE YOU, is primarily for her own benefit and secondarily for her kids, etc. She just wants to THINK that she can keep this extreme embarassment a secret. Problem is, you can smell skank down the street and around the corner!

Plain and simple, the two adulterers think and make decisions with what's in their sticky undies. They both know the words to say ("I have the best interest of my kids in mind"), but their actions speak so much more loudly (and clearly) than their words. These are truly hideous human beings, and they deserve each other. And the ex's deserve VERY HEALTHY divorce settlements!

It was telling when A.J. Cheaterman said that they were four people all waiting for someone to make a decision. I think he was just speaking for himself. Doesn't want the responsibilty of being the one to act.

I think he was being really honest when he said he hoped that he hoped he could just remain in place quitely as parental figurehead for the family, while attempting to find intimate satisfaction elsewhere (of course, he's only chasing the dragon). Just because one is able to be selectively considerate toward others, doesn't mean he has no love for them at all. Just hasn't been able to put their happiness above his own.

These women sure seemed too old to be taken in by this type. Guess I'm glad I went out in the world early, so I learned to understand the nature of temptation before getting married.

eta - Below? Can't help but see "shot IN the back"!

Brad, Michelle, and "Sarah"/"Only shoot me from the back" were just a total waste of air time. Brad is a major league jerk and his wife is a fool to spend another nanosecond with him. "Sarah" is also a fool, but since she loves him she thinks that everything will be all right.

I was also hoping for Phil to hit Brad with a blunt object. Perhaps tomorrow?

I could have done without the audience booing or groaning as Phil was telling the backstory. What next? The audience yells "Philly! Philly!" a la Springer?

Sheesh... Shill, Robin, Brad, & those 2 stupid bitches ( Michelle & Sarah, who I have no sympathy for) need to be hit in the face with a blunt object.

God, where in the hell does Shill find these worthless no-lifers & why do they keep coming on Dr. Phil & pissing me off on a daily basis?!

I hope that Omarosa do us & America a huge favor bitch-slaps Shill & Robin.

Well, Mikai is out of rehab. Gee, I wonder what that schmuck is doing right now?

Getting another girl pregnant.

Raping his younger sister again.

He's been beaten up to a pulp (I hope).

He's going to San Quentin.

Or god forbid, he comes on Dr. Shill & tells the whole world that he's heal, that he found Jesus in his life, & that he is very, very sorry for all the pain that he cause.

There's such a strong male ego vibe coming from these guys who cheat. They seem to barely supress a smirk of "Look what a virile, manly man I am...women are literally FIGHTIN' over me!!!"." Yuck.

Absolutely, smacey, and when they look like this sack of grade B fertilizer it seems all the more annoying. Brad may have been able to sweet talk forty souls into his bed, but when he was confronted outright by Mistress's Sister, the sneer, the acid words and the angry eyes showed me all I need to know about his character. She accused him of documented behaviors and his whole reaction was,"Cut a bitch."

The sex addiction is a wee part (three inches, tops) of his make-up. The rest is a gut-level, roiling, pointed hatred of women. That means Part Two will explore the dynamics of Brad's relationship with his mom. (All of this dickery must be traced back to the errant behavior of a woman, and Phil will find her. Even if it means consulting Roots Web. All men would be quietly leading their families, quoth Phil, and when they do cock up the guys are only doing it for 'Some Doll'. Perhaps, even, a fat doll.)

The fact that these women not only want to keep this walking, talking anal fissure around is bafflling, but that they raced to incubate his crusty seed is unfathomable.

No woman with even an ounce of self respect would stay with a husband who was pulling this crap. Not to mention going on national television and humiliating yourself for the entertainment of others. Brad is only allowed to keep this going because his wife is tolerating it. Let the whore and the asshole have each other, and move far away with your baby.



Brad does not have a sex addiction. Neither does Sara. They're both getting off on the power. He enjoys having two women fighting over him. Sara is getting off on playing the woman who lured away her friend's husband. Let the whores have each other. They'll be divorced within a year of getting married.

No, I think Brad's sexual addiction is an inextricable component of his power playing. One uses the weapons one has.

Day Two and Michelle is still hoping the marriage will heal after Penis Head "gets the help he needs." Watching two days of Michelle with Oprah's interview of the Harris woman inbetween ( she's doing time for running over her philandering husband after lots of desparate liposuction stuff) -- convinces me that I'm just not a woman who loves too much. I have unconditional love for my child but my love for my husband would turn to withering indifference in a nanosecond if he started this sort of crap.

Pathetic. It comes down to personal pride. I would never love anyone so much that I would be pathetic while they beat on me, physically or emotionally. And Brad didn't just become this way. Decent guys don't just morph overnight. She married Brad, probably knowing there were issues. Some women are willing to do anything to be married to anyone, even a loser.

Good to know that I'm not the only that feels this way! Might explain why I've never been within 30ft of a man like this idiot. These kind of power freaks can tell instantly if a women will fall for their crap.

Although I'm no expert (I'll have to defer that title to The Shill), but this is not about sex at all. It's all about power. It's a power grab over other people's most personal feelings. The Shill is trying to talk to them on a 'logic' level when he asks Brad something like, "On your hierarchy of what is important in your decision making process, where do your children stand on that list?" Brad may be the lowest form of dirt, but he's not stupid. He KNOWS, logically, what he should do. THAT'S not the problem. But this has nothing to do with logic. It's all about the 'package'. I doubt The Shill can address that effectively. We'll never know it though --- he'll treat the problem logically, all will go home thanking The Shill for getting them on the right track, and then they'll all be fucked up within a year because logic doesn't work.

Every once in a while, I'll watch Elimidate, in which someone goes out with 4 people and 'fires' someone every few minutes until just one (the 'winner'???) remains. More times than not, their is cat-fighting. The real cat-fighting usually just happens between 2 contestants. Anyway, what shocks me is that when two of the 4 are really at each other's throats, and screaming and insulting, and generally being annoying, the single person invariably fires the other contestants, keeping the two fighters for later rounds!! Are people so insecure that having two suitors fight over them is a turn on???? I don't get it at all. Blows me away.

Of course, all this comes from a guy who never had anyone fight over him.

ETA:

convinces me that I'm just not a woman who loves too much. I have unconditional love for my child but my love for my husband would turn to withering indifference in a nanosecond if he started this sort of crap.

Good to know that I'm not the only that feels this way! Might explain why I've never been within 30ft of a man like this idiot. These kind of power freaks can tell instantly if a women will fall for their crap.

As a guy, who is supposedly genetically pre-programmed to 'spread his seed', and thus have an inkling of understanding of what is going on here, I'd like to try and put in 2c worth from a guy's point of view. Guys like Brad troll constantly. When they meet you, BassettCase, who has never been withing 30 feet of a man like him (Congrats, BTW. There should be more of you, so that guys like Brad get genetically eliminated.), he knows he doesn't stand a chance and keeps going. He may SAY he likes the challenge of the hunt, but he doesn't want TOO MUCH of a challenge --- therefore, he moves on from you. Why should he expend energy trying to fuck you up, when there are enough fucked up women out there already?? I don't mean that to be disrespectful. I mean to be truthful. There are fucked up men and women out there --- a guy like Brad is taking advantage of that. BassettCase, you sound like a strong woman --- that scares the shit out of guys like Brad.

I'm just glad that Phil has started quoting pop songs instead of Junior Samples. "Guilty feet have got no rhythm" sure is easier on the ear than "a one-legged possum still shows up for scraps even if the porch is iced up." Maybe we've got a trend?