The only way Brad would have been satisfied (in more ways than one) is if they had let him tie Makai up and jab him with a red hot poker. He doesn't want anyone to "move on." He wants to keep dragging this family through the horror of this experience because he'll never be able to get past what happened to him. What a car wreck of a family.

First of all, I've never been molested, but hopefully my opinion is still worth something.

I didn't realize when I saw the first Mikai show that, apparently, the parents had each been molested, as well as Mikai, as children. Now, no one has said that Mikai's molestation was done by the parents, so I assume that the neighbors/townspeople/grandparents/aunts/uncles are to blame. I understand that this often runs in families, but I thought it was mostly because it remained in the family --- ie, dad/mom molests the kids, so the kids 'learn' that this is normal in a family. And now, I guess the sister will be able to claim the same thing. What about the two other brothers???? I mean it sounds like wherever these people go, or whatever they do, someone is touching someone.

I don't mean to deflect blame (Mikai has SERIOUS problems that he needs to own up to), but there certainly appears to be something else going on. Perhaps it is just the parents first-hand experience with their own molestations, but I am concerned about the vastly different reactions between the two parents to this crisis. All Mom wants to do is see and hold Mikai, while Dad just wants to disown him. Mom says, "He's my son", while Dad says, "He's a monster." Mom and Dad: he IS a monster, but at the same time he IS your son. To me, something doesn't add up with your reactions.

Mikai dodged a bullet concerning felonious sexual assault. It's kinda too bad, frankly. When he gets out of treatment, and IF he assaults another girl, there won't be a conviction on record to let the next judge use as a basis of repeat behavior and get him off the streets for a good long time. In a sense, he got a free pass. If his treatment is successful, then I guess he can contribute to society and we'll never hear about him again. God, I hope it goes that way, given that he will be amongst us in the not-too-distant-future. But what is the success rate of this kind of treatment?? I KNOW it's not 100%. Because it isn't 100%, I think we will ALWAYS be taking a chance with him. Another reason to prosecute, frankly, is to punish. Not just rehabilitate. So many people are perfectly content with felons getting out of jail when they are sure that the crime won't be repeated. I think many of us have forgotten that jail/prison is PUNISHMENT and not rehab. It is intended to seperate 'them' from 'us', who respect the law and don't allow ourselves to cross the lines that have been set up to allow society to live with itself. In defense of the Dr. Phil Show, they can't parade all sexual predators across their stage and offer them a great treatment program, and apparently some kind of shield from prosecution. The Dr. Phil Show CAN show us one situation, so that we may identify similar situations in our lives, and a path to treatment.

I hope to God that Mikai's treatment cures his condition. I'm afraid that I have real doubts, though.

I think that's what bothers me the most. Is this show for real? They recapped a little bit today for previous shows. Makai said he was 9 when approx 27 (?) people molested him. Ok, I have kids, and I have never left them open for 27 people to be alone with them where I have not a clue what is going on! I doesn't sound possible unless they live in some sort of compound where you drop your kids off and whoever has access to your kids while you do something else for hours on end. Who does that?

I'm going to have to disagree here with this arguement. First thing, I don't believe that Brad is his real father, the looks of the other kids being so different and his reaction to Makai. Second, my kids have done a lot of stupid things growing up. Things I couldn't forgive a stranger, but for your own child, you can't turn off love. Sort of how mothers still believe in their children on death row. Normally, nothing breaks a mother's love. No matter what kids do. I also wouldn't back down when Brad threw his hissy fit over mom talking on the phone to Makai.

I also disagree with this. What sexually stimulates one person may be different for someone else. We aren't all the same. When someone is a child molester (or rapist), I think it should be attributed to mental illness. Whether they crave the feeling of power over another or they are sexually deviant, they need help. Of course, they should be taken out of society to prevent anyone else being hurt, but I truly don't think it is a choice. [/rant]
I guess with parents like these two, none of those kids stand a chance.

I'm kind of surprised at the response to Kenda's insistence to see Makai. I don't think it's necessarily wrong, and I can't say what I would do in a similar situation. After the first episodes aired, a lot of people here criticized Brad for yelling that Makai was dead to him. I'm not sure what the right answer is, but I don't think anyone can jump all over Kenda for wanting to see him. When she said, "I'm the mom, and he's still my son," I heard a woman who feels extremely guilty. I don;t know if I could just turn off that mother-son relationship. And it's not like she was inviting him back into the house, she did tell him that they have to protect the girl.
That said, the family still is creepy, and I think Brad has a serious rage problem.

This is minor, in comparison with the rest of the show, but I really hate the way Dr. Phil says adult. aa-dult instead of uh-dult. He sounds like a bleating sheep.

Re: Mikai: He's just a kid too, and people aren't realizing that. He has really twisted ideas about what is inappropriate due to his upbringing. Maybe I'm just being ridiculous, but I'd like to think that with enough therapy, he'll be able to understand what happened to him and how to keep himself from doing that to others. It's just a neverending cycle of abuse and pain in this family. ALL of them need a whole lot of help. And, not Dr. Shill and his products, either. I mean actual real psychotherapists and psychiatrists.

Phil's comeuppance will be when he is inundated with pleas from families wanting his help getting their loved ones out of jail, off of crack, in from streetwalking, down from meth and out from under their porn trafficking conviction. They'll be sending email and snail mail, calling at all hours, mailing in videos and even showing up at his studio to try to get a private audience with Top Dog. After all, this is a man who can circumvent laws. A man who can buy the best help available. A man who knows frickin everything about everything and let us hasten to touch his Big and Tall Brooks Brothers suit so that we might be healed of our issues.

You crawl up on the cross and folks are going to start demanding miracles. Our beloved Donahue was full of himself too but he didn't grab a scalpel and attempt open heart surgery. That Phil knew his limits.

I can see that happening, too, Gemmadoll. I thought it was interesting that Phil brought on Dr. Lawless - the real doctor on the show. Poor guy. I'd hate to all of the footwork and have to answer to Mr. High and Mighty. I don't know why I thought Phil acted as the liason with local therapists and authorists. Oh, wait, that's because he takes all of the credit! Dr. Lawless, leave this trainwreck. I can tell that you're better than this balding famewhore.

Oh, and the care package? A little much for a child molestor. I agree that they should be focusing on the family (without Makai) and their healing. She didn't really talk much about her daughter's healing.

gemini617:


Legally, he's not. He's 19. And emotionally, I'd argue that he is also an adult. He knew his actions were wrong - hence the lies and the denial.

Very interesting and I thought the same thing after watching some of today's show (I couldn't stand the entire hour!). The other three sons look like dad-clones who know their marching orders. There is something "just not right" about the family members affect, mannerisms, the reactions, the words spoken, inner-family relationships, etc., etc.
Being that DrP is so big on the whole "70% of communication is nonspoken", SURELY he is not oblivious to this group.
No doubt, this is the most disturbing stuff to watch. Not only is something "just not right" about the family and the entire sideshow, but it just feels creepy to be watching it.

Anyone else wonder how that dad was able to tear his tie off as soon as they got backstage? I was thinking, "clip-on??".
And how odd was that when dad wanted mom to wait and see the boy when they were back in front of the cameras. WTF???
Something was amiss when mom was with the boy and she wanted to treat him like he was 3 yrs old again, but he didn't want her to touch him.

I feel dirty....

Look, we all know where the line is concerning acceptable sexual behavior and little kids. 99% of us never even get remotely close to that line, though, so it isn't an issue. Short of denial, we all know that touching a 4 year old 'down there' is wrong. One camp says that crossing that line is a choice. The other camp says that since we know it is wrong, then only a sick person would cross the line. When a sentient being does something like this, he/she KNOWS what he is doing, but cannot control the urges. I suspect some sexual offenders have mental illness, while others knowingly choose to participate in just plain old inexcusable criminal behavior. Let's remember that there are people out there that do horrific things (not necessarily sexual in nature) just 'cause they think they can get away with it. None of us can settle this issue, if the experts can't.

One thing I can say, though, is that calling it a sickness rather than a choice tends to remove the responsibility from the act.

Dr. Phil kept using the phrase 'take ownership of your actions' which I don't think Mikai did. It is one thing to say that you've done something, after failing a lie detector test on national TV, but I don't think he REALLY saw the horror of what he did. He tried to deny remembering whether he did it or not, then he even tried to say that he didn't know what was right or wrong because nobody told him!!!!! IF it's an illness, I hope Mikai gets the right treatment. IF it's a choice, I hope he makes the right choices from now on. Either way, frankly, I don't want him living next to me and my family. Ever.

Some random thoughts from today's show:
Interesting choice of words from Dr. Shill. Throughout the show, child molestation and sexual assault were referred to as "being inappropriate" or, at worst, "sexually inappropriate." Is he trying to make it seem as though Mikai just has some sort of very minor behavioral issue?
I still don't believe Mikai was molested by 27 people, or anyone. He's a compulsive liar looking for an excuse and an easy out.
The amount of concern displayed by the parents (particularly the mom) for the daughter was very disturbingly small.
The hatred and inability to even talk about the situation with the younger boys makes me believe that it is very possible that Mikai molested them as well.
Dr. Shill never mentioned the name of the sexual disorders treatment center that Mikai is at. I guess that means they refused to provide free treatment in exchange for Shill yapping about how wonderful they are on his show.

I couldn't watch today's show; the other two made me feel icky. I personally feel Mikai should be under the jail. Failing that, he should never be unsupervised around children. He's scary and dangerous.

Yep!! But thanks to the Dr. Phil Show, he is not even IN jail.

Yep!! But thanks to the Dr. Phil Show that could happen in weeks or months.

Yep!!

My mo-dar is still saying yes although I was surprised when I didn't see the "portrait painting" of Jesus that every single mormon in the entire world has in their house.

I feel very bad for the little girl. A person should not have their sexual abuse discussed on national TV without their consent no matter how young they were when it happened or whether they can remember or not. For the rest of her life everyone in her town will know what happened and treat her differently. I don't think she should be embarased that it happened to her because of course it's not her fault, but I still think it should be a person's choice whether they want to be open about it or not.

If Mikai did indeed molest or rape other girls I think Dr. Phil is doing a real disservice to those victims. Part of getting closure is seeing the perp get punished. I'm scared because Mikai can get out of rehab and move next door to anyone and they won't know it because he doesn't have to register as a sex offender. The next little girl or boy Mikai touches can thank Dr. Phil.

I really didn't want to be drawn into this thread, on this topic. I watched both Shil shows with horror. There is something terribly wrong about this family. dad was angry because that's his daughter. I think dad has anger issues, plus if Child Protection Services thinks you had a clue about what was going on and didn't do something to change the situation, they arrest you also.

I do believe child molesters are born, not made. I also believe they choose to molest. I don't believe a word Mikai said. He knew right from wrong. To me, he seemed happy he made the dad angry. Just because you are molested doesn't mean you think it is normal.

Mikai isn't out of hot water yet. The DA likes to have a good case. The detectives may take a month or so to investigate. The immediate concern is to make sure the child in question is not in danger and still with the molester. Take the molester out of the picture and they can take their time to build a case.

In the Atlanta area is a treatment center for sexual predators. The doctor running the shows claims a 97% cure rate. If anyone believes that, I have a bridge I'd like to sell. Of course if the predator is taught how to not get caught again, I suppose the success rate could claim to be that high. Another doctor treats molesters and children that have been molested, they share the same waiting room.

I don't think Dr Shil is as powerful as he tries to appear to be. He can however pull a few strings and make people believe he is powerful.

He's the daytime TV version of the Wizard of Oz. Pay no attention to the Botox Kitty.

For someone who says:



it's odd to me you say this, too:



Them is us.



That was squicky.



That totally underlines my belief in the nature vs. nurture debate: it's both!

There are 2 parents + 5 kids in the family. Both parents were molested, by their own admission. Makai states he was molested. 4 yr old daughter has also been molested. 4 out of 7 members of the same family, have been molested. The 3 boys who have not been molested, all have some major anger issues going on.

Mom's behavior was simply bizarre today. All the tugging and wanting to hold Makai 'like when he was 3'. Her behavior last week was just as weird. I still can't believe she could sit thru all the crap last week, without one tear. She didn't tear up for any of her 5 kids, for that matter. Good meds came to mind, but still she was so cold last week.

Dad's anger gave me the creeps. I also wonder if he is the bio. dad. If not, maybe that's part of the problem. Either way, when 4 out 7 members of his family have been molested, he has to take some responsibility for the state of his family.

I'm with the rest who needed a long shower after the show

No matter what anyone WANTS, he IS their son and he IS a monster. Justifying the two against each other is, frankly, the parents problem.

By 'us', I mean law abiding citizens. IMHO, an 'us' can become a 'them' in an instant. Most of 'us' stay 'us' for a lifetime because we know better. Oh, and by 'them' I mean serious criminals, not speeders. In the context of this discussion, 'them' are child molesters and 'us' are not. Surely, that is a bold line with very little fuzziness. I don't think that 'them is us'. I DO think that 'them' is among 'us' after serving their term or getting off on a technicality or something else, but as far as I am conerned when it comes to child molestation, no sentence is too long. WRT this heinous crime, once a 'them' always a 'them'. Even if a 'them' never violates another kid, that person is still a 'them' in my book. Would you not think twice about living next to a child molester that served his term and has had a clean record for, oh, ten years?? He's a 'them'.

So Mikai do not get his ass kicked, get sent to jail, get disowned by his family, or die?!! DAMN IT!!

Sounds like Mikai's mom Kenda cares more about this bastard than her 4-yr old daughter. Her daughter is scarred for life because of Mikai & Kenda gave him more sympathy than the 4-yr old.

Does this bitch knows that he is 19 & he should be in San Quentin right now instead of wasting our taxpayer's money on his stupid treatment that will NOT work?!! What a worthless sack of shit she is!!!

Why didn't the dad do us & America a favor & beat the hell out of Mikai after the show?!! Both these parents are assholes!!!

The next update that I hear about Mikai, it better be either somebody killed him, he killed himself, or that stupid treatment failed, he comes home, molested his sister (and/or somebody else) AGAIN & goes to jail.

This whole treatment crap is like putting a band-aid on a brain hemorrhage.

God, I couldn't possibly agree more. I don't believe that Makai can be cured, and even if theoretically he could, I would not want to move my kid next door to test out that theory.

Word to whoever mentioned the fact that Makai doesn't have to register as a sex offender. That's scary. However, if any of the other girls come forward, then I would think the D.A. would have to prosecute, if they are not planning to do so already.

Since when is treatment a way to avoid punishment for a crime? Where's the Dr. Phil who always yells that we must "own" or actions? Makai is escaping punishment, so how is that owning his actions? From his perspective, he must have just received a "Get out of jail free" card.

It bothers me that Mikai looks nothing like his dad or any of his siblings. Did the parents ever say how long they have been married? Because something crossed my mind, could it be possible that Mikai is a product of the mother being raped? Just wondering because usually a child will have some features of the parents or simmilar features of a sibling. Plus all the other sons look so much alike that Mikai sticks out big time.

Peanutbuttercup

Oh I soo thought the same thing. I believe he probabaly did, with the way the boys are acting like if Mikai died it would be the best thing ever, it sends up red flags.

Mikai always seems so smug and it really makes me want to reach through my tv and bitch slap the little bastard.

I did not see the first Mikai show - both parents were molested? This is a nest Phil should never have poked at. If this couple had half a brain between them they would have gone for counseling years ago, before they brought five kids into the world. Who knows what will come out now? One of the angry brothers said something about Mikai molesting GIRLS, but guess what? Pedophiles molest girls and boys. I definitely get a vibe that Mikai is more important to Mom than her little girl and yes, I wondered too if Dad was not the bio father of Mikai. I suspect that in this family abuse of a daughter is less horrific because a female is "less than" a male. When brother on brother molestation comes out, the shit will hit the fan. These people give new meaning to the FUF!

Maybe this is way out in left field, but I was thinking about that shot they showed over and over of the back of the little gir's head and her very curly ponytail. Could she be bi-racial? Did they adopt a child to bring in to their mess? Mom is a bit long in the tooth to have a 4 year old.

My mom used to give strange men she met in bars the keys to the house and tell them she'd meet them there later. Takes all kinds, I suppose.

It occurred to me earlier that she may have been adopted. There was a bit of Mikai being interviewed on the previous show when he said "that was after we got [sister's name]." Usually children born into a family are not referred to this way. Not that whether she was adopted into or born into the family should matter with respect to how much her parents love and care for her.

Makai saying...

Yup. I had heard that, too. Just proves that there is much more to this story that they showed us.

So sad on so many levels.

I used to like Dr. Phil when he was a straight talking once a week feature on Oprah. Now it's just ridiculous. Some problems can't be fixed no matter how much "owning" of the problems go on.

Dr. Phil should take his own advice and realize that when a family holds up a scapegoat for treatment, there's way, way more going on within the bowels of all of them.

Reading this thread really helps me see different sides and take into account different attitudes regarding these issues he sometimes inadvertantly raises.

My neighbor's son was a drug addict and sometimes thief who could never really get the help he needed because his mom wanted to fight his battles and solve his problems, and she'd always say, "But he's my son!!"

Lady, your son is fucked up and the only way for him to see the error of his choices is to let him deal with the consequences himself. "Let me hold you like when you were 3"? Weird.

I did notice that all the other sons had Dad's eyes and Mom's lower jaw and nose. Mikai had none of those features. And way to protect the identity of the little girl, a blurface and bleeped out name, yet everyone will know who she is by the company of her family.

Shill also said Mikai "stood up" and admitted he did wrong. Well, bullshit to that too. Mikai got CAUGHT. He was dumb enough to think he could beat a polygraph test. I think his smug look came partly from the fact that he's a compulsive liar who'd managed to snow everyone, or at least his see-no-evil mom, up to that time.

Mikai's dad may have problems with his rage, but I think the mom has done a lot of damage in that family. I was creeped out by the psychobabble she was spouting backstage after the first show: "It'll be a long road, but I guess we have to make that journey," and "You (Shill) are the only one who heard our cries for help." No sobbing or rage for her 4-y.o. abused daughter, as others have mentioned. I wonder how much of Mikai's problems can be laid at her feet. I have the a feeling that she blinded herself to his behavior for years, while dad may be the one who wanted to get the authorities involved sooner. In my opinion Mom also has this weird, addicted-to-therapy aura about her. I don't think it's meds, it's therapy. She'd like nothing more than to be able to talk about her problems all day long; the focus would always be on her. Plenty of talk, no action. (Please note that I'm not criticizing people who undergo therapy, or saying that this is true of all people who undergo therapy for serious problems, by any means!!, but I have seen behavior similar to Kenda's in a few folks now and then.) Just my opinion.

I agree that if Mikai didn't molest his brothers, he at least tried to, and they fended him off.

And enough with the "sexually inappropriate" doubletalk. Mikai sexually molested a toddler, and perhaps other children in his town as well, period. That's what it's called. That makes him a criminal, whether he gets prosecuted and/or convicted or not.

When that 4-year-old girl grows up to be a teen or twentysomething and is in therapy herself to deal with all this, I wonder what she'll think of her parents' two-brother rule then.

One final thing: Mikai has now fathered a child of his own. I hope the babymomma has the sense to keep the child far, far away from this family.

So right, NoFatChicks!!! It almost sounds like Mikai is off in California for treatment, and the family is back to doing what it does best. Frankly, they are so totally disfunctional, that it is probably the 'doing what it does best' that got them into trouble in the first place. I mean Dad has anger issues, Mom has nurturing issues (Let me hold you like when you were 3!!!!), the 4 year old daughter has molestation issues, and the other boys that we saw have some kind of issues that have not been made clear. Before they pop out any more victims, er... babies, perhaps they ought to all pile into the minivan and head on down to the shrink for a few years worth of fixing!

There is SO MUCH that we are not being told!! Many people would say that this is none of our business. Believe it or not, I disagree. This family chose to go on national TV in order to solve their problem, which they probably thought was just sick little Mikai. It is clear that their problem goes so much deeper than just one family member!!! If Dr. Phil is going to tell the story of a family in crisis, he needs to tell America the WHOLE story.

This whole thing is extremely disturbing to me, but I hope that there is more airtime devoted to this story --- perhaps we will hear part of the rest of the story. I've never been part of such a situation, so it would be nice to see more of the WHOLE story in case I ever start to be part of such a situation. Heck, maybe I HAVE been on the fringe of such a situation (maybe a schoolmate that was molested?), but I never knew it (even to this day) and this story could have made all the difference in seeing the abuse! Or some guy in Anywhere USA who REALLY IS on the fringe of this abuse, and he can make a difference for another 4 year old after seeing the signs on The Dr. Phil Show.

I am bothered by how little attention was given to the little girl. Is she getting counsuling, threapy, anything to help her deal with what has happened? Dr Phulofit did not addressher at all.
I am also upset with Mikai's placement, while I agree prison won't help him, we can't be sure treatment will either. Statistics suggest it won't. We must err on the side of innocents and keep predators away from them, if that means prison so be it. To the Mom I say,it is sad to have your son in jail but that's life, life is hard, I am sorry it didn't turn out like you wanted but that how it is.
It may not be a molesters fault that he is a molester,we will never know what makes a pedophile or rapist, but until we can fix predators they have to be kept out of society.
To not even have a record of this behavior and not register as an offender is so irresponsible. If I lived in that area and saw this show, the DA's phone would be ringing day and night till they took action.

Of course I got sucked in to watching this totally disturbing family - again. I just do not understand how these people can talk about this stuff on TV - and there is hardly any emotion? Except for the Dad breaking down backstage crying, they seem cold as ice. The mother seems to "try" to look like she is upset and crying, and her eyes are dry with no tears. So bizarre. Did anyone ever find out what their background is - Mormon or Amish or whatever? What community do they live in that sexual abuse is so rampant? What a sad family...

They have to be LDS or some form of. Big tip to me - yesterday she said there was a different "spirit" in their house since Mikai was gone. No one I know talks like that but LDS folks.

Maybe Shill can adopt that town as his next televised whole-town project! [/sarcasm]

Seriously, no, I don't want to see that. No town deserves SHill.

Heaven help Mikai if he should ever actually do the time he rightly deserves to be serving. Once word gets around to his new "buddies" who have been watching tv all day, they will have a field day!! And because he molested a child is only the beginning.

Odd how OddMom wanted to treat Mikai like he was a 3 yr old BUT didn't seem to be giving a second thought to the ACTUAL 4 yr old at home.
I agree with those talking about how the majority of this family has been molested and how that grows curiouser and curiouser.
There is SO something not being told here and if everyone who has posted can see thru it, I can't doubt the rest of the viewers can too.

I seriously doubt we have seen the last of this FUF.

Statistics show one out of four girls, and one out of seven boys have been molested. The average molester has molested 40 victims before he is caught. This our town people. This is big, middle and small town USA!

If the family doesn't get some kind of help, Dr Shil is not doing his job. It is important to stop the predator, but it is more important to help the family or this will happen again and again. The little girl will be put in situations where she can be molested time and time again while the parents remain in denial. Remove the molester and there are ten more waiting to take his place.

There are problems with statistics. For example, molestation and incest are a separate crime. They may be statistically grouped into "Other Sex Offenses." Also, it is a general practice to "seal files" that regard children in court cases in order to protect the child, therefore these statistics are not available.

However, The U.S. Department of Justice reports 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 7 boys are molested before they turn 18. That's crazy!!!

And



More reason that Mikai got an out by appearing on Dr. Phil and that he'll still be a threat once he's "cured."

Yes!!! Good point, Drummouse. Here's my sick thinking: She's got a 'nurture' thing for 3 year olds ("Let me hold you like when you were 3."), and NOT for 4 year olds. Maybe her 4 year old daughter is now too old to deserve the nurture attention that she is heaping onto Mikai. I'm kinda convinced that she wants Mikai back in utero. Yes, it sounds sick, but I don't mean in a sexual sense. I mean in a nurture/protection kinda way. Heck, if he's back in there, he can't possibly be a monster --- he'd be a sweet innocent, just like his Mom's denial is making him out to be in her mind. If she wishes hard enough (There's no place like home. There's no place like home.) then maybe all this will - POOF! - go away and she can go back to her June Cleaver life and pop out more victims --- er, babies.[/sickness]

I think the whole thing was a mess. I don't know if pedophiles are born or made. I think neither the daughter (why'd they bleep her name her whole damn family is on TV), Makai, or the community were served well.

But I do think the daughter will be okay later in life if the parents weren't so off. She loves Makai still and I think that the trauma of molestation will only be worse now that the whole world knows what happended to her and there's this whole spectacle surrounding this incident. Unfortunately throughout history some real squicky foul things have happened btwn siblings, btwn adults & children, etc. People can overcome these things and live normal lives if its all placed in its proper perspective. By labeling this child as "the molested one" and assuming that she cant help but be crippled by this negative experience, I think it only makes things worse. By the assessment of some, she's automatically career tracked to pedophilia.

As for Makai, I can't believe his parents brought him on this show to reveal to the world that he's touching little girls. Since they didn't seem to want him incarcerated (a normal reaction for many parents no matter what their kids do) then what was the point of bringing him on the show and exposing his madness to the world? It seems like a hostile act under the guise of "getting help." I think his mom actually felt guilty because she knows this was some bullshit. She knows she should've paid for family therapy, kicked this man out of her home and showered her daughter with love. Instead she brought her son on national tv so he couldbe branded a molester. Really, what would be the point of him changing now, he's always going to be viewed as a threat and now everyone will know his face. I wouldn't want to live around him. I wouldn't be surprised if he commits suicide.

As far as the community, it I'm disgusted by the fact that there's a different measuring stick for criminals just because they appear on the Dr. Phil show. I dont know if treatment or jail time works but its messed up that some get access to one while others are stuck with another. This is America (actually I shouldn't be surprised). There are people serving 30 year sentences for nonviolent crimes and they didn't touch up anybody's kid! I'm also bothered by the fact that this man won't be placed on the sex offender list and has a clean slate. Not when I know hardworking/educated/family men who still have to worry about a weed arrest they caught at 18 disqualifying them from a job at 35.

Oh my god, thank you so much for bringing this up! It pisses me off to no end that nonviolent offenders get such long sentences and child molesters, who have such a high rate of re-offending, get short sentences. The fact that Makai is apparently going to escape even that is so wrong. Like as a society we need to go to the trouble of incarcerating Martha Stewart for 5 months, but Makai is apparently okay to be on an early-afternoon talk show. Auggh.

What is with DrP and his fascination with psychofamiles???
Today's show with the "off the chain" kids was about as disturbing as FUF3. I just find it too hard to believe that these future BTK-wannabes are suddenly healed by a tv psych-wannabe. You mean all we need to do is go into these juvenile wards and hand out copies of his family book and everything will be all right?
Sorry DrP, everything turning out so close to peachy just doesn't fly.

As for the family with the daughter in her own cell.... WHY is that child not under professional continual observation? WTF is that family thinking keeping her around, let alone keeping her in a cell with an alarm that they KNOW plays a tune that irritates her? No wonder she's off the chain. So we're going to wait until we find mom with a pickaxe for a hat before we get real? (ooops.... DrP-ism there!)

The second kid who DrP threw a fishing trip at.... hmmmm, dad spends time with son. What a concept!! You mean if dad validates his son and actually interacts then said son is happier? Go figure.

The update on the kid living with his mom, aunt, and grandmother... BLESS HIS HEART! Forget sticking the hamster in the luggage handle, I'm surprise he didn't stick his own head in there. If I had to live in that environment I'd be hostile too! And imagine that, the psycho chicks calm down and the kid does too. Huh... go figure.

Anyone know when DrP is supposed to meet with the Pope for his deserved sainthood? The man is working miracles!!

Unable to shake the nasty off from yesterday's show, I keep going back to the number of family members and age of the kids.

The age of the 3 older boys indicate they were born fairly close together. Followed not that long after by #4 son. I believe Makai's inappropriate touching, etc. of girls began when he was 12-13. So, my question is this. During the time the boys were in elementary school what did they do when not attending school? Shouldn't they have been playing soccer, video games, riding bicycles? Normally, by the age of 12-14, is when kids begin having a social life away from their parents. Which leads me to wonder, why would some of Makai's 1st acts of rebellion was sexual ?


The topic of sexual molestation had to of been a frequent conversation in that house. Did OddMom & AngryDad share too much and too often their own stories? I hate to say this, but I'm leaning toward the thinking that OddMom was way beyond odd while these kids were little. I just have a sick feeling about that woman. Seriously, an icky sick feeling.

Yeah, the mom is really bugging me, too. I didn't watch today's show because I can't handle five days of this madness.

But back to yesterday:

I wonder if the reason why she doesn't talk about her daughter's healing is because some religions (and maybe theirs, whatever it is) automatically blame the girl for not maintaining her "purity." Obviously, a four-year-old cannot be held responsible in the same way a sixteen-year-old can, but when you are indoctrinated into a belief system that blames and objectifies the girl, it may be hard to get out of that mindset. Maybe in Kenda's eyes, her daughter is tainted in some way, and she can't look at her the same way.

When you live in a culture that often blames the victim, what do you do when both the victim and the perpetrator are in the same family? My guess is Kenda was raised to believe males are above females, so she automatically values Makai's healing above her daughter's.

This family is fucked up in so many ways, it's hard to explain without charts.

I noticed that the mom refered to Makai as her son but called the other children our sons or our daughter.

I'm thinking that Mikai is Brad's (the Dad) adopted son.

Does anybody knows where this stupid family lives?!! Mikai is a lost cause & his life is not worth saving. Even Jesus wouldn't save this bastard. Mikai & Kenda can go to hell for all I care.

Those parents on today's show with their out of control children: Why do these stupid parents go on Dr. Phil & not the Maury Show?!! At least I will have something to laugh at on the Maury Show. Today's show is basically zzzzzzz........

Tomorrow's show will be about kids & ADD. What the hell does Shill knows about ADD other than his STUPID audience, Mikai, & Mikai's stupid parents probably has ADD?!!!

Tiramisu1980 asked:


Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Which is why tomorrow will be filled with Phil spouting something like the following:

To the father of ADD child: "You need to get tuned in. You need to step up and lead this family. You need to br strong for your wife and [insert child's name here] because no one else will."

To the mother of the ADD child: "How's that been workin' for ya? Look, you're a woman, and it's perfectly naturally to be weak and emotional at a time like this. But you need to set goals and consequate yourself. Like 'If I don't sit down with [insert child's name here] for one hour a day to deal with this, then I cannot wear makeup or fix my hair the next day.'"

To both of them: "Look, your family is in turmoil. That's why myself and the good folks at Travelocity have teamed up to send you guys on cruise to the Bahamas and a week at Disney World."

To the audience: "I feel very strongly about this issue, which is why if y'all look under your seats, you'll find a copy of my new book 'Family First' under your seats."

There. I just saved us all sixty minutes.

I love it how he looks right into the camera and says, "I REALLY think all y'all should go out right now and buy my new book!!" All right, I added the "all y'all", but all y'all know it fits. Am I right? How totally f***ing self serving!!!!

I'm just so sickened by watching this guy always dispensing his little self-esteem pellets, too!!! It's funny watching the guests, sometimes, watching them process what's being said. It's kinda like watching a hamster nibbling on a yummy treat --- the judiciously doled out self-esteem pellets!!!

Well, I gotta go and chew up the new newspaper on my bed. And I can't wait to sink my teeth into that nice juicy leaf of lettuce that I've stored in the corner of my room!!

Mikai's family mentioned Utah so I assume they are Mormons from Utah.

Don't forget that the ADD show will undoubtedly feature Dr. Frank Lawless telling parents to feed their children blueberries & hardboiled eggs or some such bullshit.
I would love to see a television show addressing the research on ADD that shows a strong correlation between watching television and getting ADD. Not bloody likely though.

Sounds like high response blah blah food so Shill would approve.