Hey Countryclubwife if you go on the show hopefully you can get some dirt about Shill. Be as sweet as you can to the producers and pry out as much snark about Shill as you can. Save the sarcasm for Shill- see if you can piss him off. I have heard that techniques such as "damming someone with faint praise" is a polite way to tell him off. Clinton was good at that. Please keep writing and keep us up to date. It is very exciting.

Obviously you are a Bad Parent, or he would not be asking you onto the show to be enlightened, right? But, of course, I am not really one to be lecturing you because I am unmarried AND childless so obviously I am a selfish, selfish person with no status at all. Right?

Today's Dr. Shill show once again featured Dr. Shill letching on a barely pubescent girl. He had the FUF from Alabama on again, the one with the two sons who bully their thirteen year old sister and call her ugly and stupid. He dragged her up on the stage, put his arm around her, and leeringly told her she's "way too cute for thirteen." Really! She obviously has some good sense, since she almost immediately jerked away and ran off the stage to sit back down next to her parents.
A few more thoughts on this FUF:
Dr. Shill said the bully brothers were good kids with bad behaviors. I call bullshit on that. I think they are just bad children and need to be shipped off to Happy Hill Farm.
Dr. Shill sent the poor girl off to see his quack mentor and his team, who said she isn't getting enough "brain food" (why do I have this image of her eating nothing but boiled eggs and blueberries from here on out ... hmmm ... at least that would be better than the nothing her parents were feeding her for breakfast and the Little Debby cakes they were giving her as snacks throughout the day).
I also felt bad for the girl because Dr. Shill went through a long spiel about the results of all her urine samples. That's going to ease her social problems at school, right?

Ethical concerns about DocShill's diet empire: Phil's questionable ethics

Notable quote from the above link: Oprah Winfrey, who introduced Dr. Phil to the world, has acknowledged that endorsing supplements was not a decision she would have made.


I'm dying to know what is happening with FUF1 and FUF2. Were they just unceremoniously dumped because they were both unsuccessful trainwrecks? Not very professional, DocShill.

I definitly want to know what's happening with FUF #1 cause soemone the the Dr Phil MB (on his site) mentioned that the family might in Florida and there have been quite a few Hurricanes lately so I hope they're doing okay.
That goes for everyone here who lives in Florida too!

Eventually Phil will stop hosting real dysfunctional families and hire actors as Jerry Springer does. Real people are so hard to pigeon hole, coerce, and humiliate without popping up with anger and lawsuits.

The hurricanes in Florida did do a bit of housecleaning. Seeing Marty wrapped around a coconut palm was difficult to see. Except that it wasn't.

Phil's huge empire is beginning to swell along with the unparalleled thrust of his limitless ego. I see a casino, a theme park and a chain of low fat Phil Buger restaurants. Toxic Kitty clothing line, BBJay crisis centers for teens and Jorthro a magazine for adolescents with mad bank and unfortunate genes. If you think this empire of McGraw is not set to usurp all that we know and hold dear then you aren't paying attention.

PS To Phil: When you fawn over teenage girls it looks trenchcoatingly creepy. Stop that.

Ewwwwwwwww. Yucky mental picture. I always hated that Shill devoted entire hours to the young teen daughters of FUFs 1 & 2. Basically agreeing with everything they felt and devoting like a 1/2 hour to that ridiculous letter by marty's spawn that said she wanted to go to a foster home-trailer park in Alabama rather than be dirtied by living with her pregnant sister. And Stacy's twit whose every other word was "IWANTBODENIWANTBODEN" Yeah right.

Of course, this is only for the pretty, thin 13-15 year old girls....

I know exactly where they are in Florida, and I'm confident they fared well during the hurricanes, save some blackouts.

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Hahahahahahhahah! Oh how I love seeing a gold digger get burned. Poor Nicole, driving a nasty old Volvo and having to do her own nails - oh the misery! She kept reminding me of Bernadette Peters in The Jerk sobbing, "It's not the money it's the stuuuuufff!"

Dr. Shill scoop. I spoke with the producer yesterday. They said they fly you out the day before the show, put you up in a hotel, give you a $50/day meal voucher and then fly you out as soon after the show as possible. This seems like the bums rush considering we live in New England. We would probably barely be able to see let alone talk with this kind of travel schedule!

Phil is cheap!!!

Two phrases to cheer me up. Bwah!

Call me a cranky bitch but I had very little sympathy for the second FUF yesterday. I can imagine that the parents are overwhelmed, having to cope with 4 kids under the age of 7 and living in a yooge, decrepit fixer-upper where the kids have to share one bedroom; but who forced them to have 4 kids under the age of 7 and buy a yooge, decrepit fixer-upper where the kids have to share one bedroom? Shill's solution, once again, is to throw money at the problem: Lowe's comes in to do a $100,000 house renovation.

I want my kitchen redone. If I pretend that I have a lot of marital stress (I don't) because we eat a lot of takeout (we don't), because I refuse to cook in a nasty kitchen (it's not, but for Shill's producers I can make it look it really bad), can I get Shill to fund my renovation too? I'd really like a pair of under-the-counter Sub-Zero refrigerators.

There was another annoying thing with the way Shill handled the second new FUF. Let's see, Mom spanks the kids because she has a lot of pent-up rage, partly as a result of being beaten as a kid herself. Okay then. Shill's answer: you don't have to spank the kids, there are other effective ways of disciplining them; read my book to learn just what they are. He's done this on all the Family First shows I've seen so far: present a problem and then tell people to buy his book for the solution. So viewers won't learn anything from just watching the show anymore, they have to open their wallets. (I know, it's not as if they learned anything in the past from watching Shill.)

Shill's marketing machine rolls on.

If this keeps up, we'll have to move this thread to the "Infomercials" forum.

And to think I was once a state spelling champ...

This must be an old article -- weren't the weight loss bars and shakes discontinued, with the remains getting consigned to the dollar stores of the world? I know my local supermarket no longer carries them.



I loved the fact that FUF Dad was soooo proud of the fact that he'd managed to read a whole 40 pages of DP's book. "He usually only reads the sports pages!" said FUF Mom. Goody for him. He is indeed a sterling role model for those two boys, who despite being "good kids" probably display at least a half-dozen of the 14 signs of incipient serial killer-ness.

I'm sure you'll all be thrilled to hear that Phil & Kitty will be on "The View" on Monday, Oct. 25.

Awww c'mon, they had a whole season of Shill's wisdom and personal attention. Can't major problems like those of FUF1 and 2 be completely cured in a season?!

Ciountryclubwife - Even though it would definitely end up on the cutting room floor or be edited to make you look like Skanky Stacey's soul sister, it would be pretty funny for you to bring the snark on Shill and hear your report of the hilarity that would ensue. I'm sure you and your family would not be invited back.


Great description - glad to know I'm not the only one who gets the wiggins from Shill's handsiness and attitude toward young girls. He's like that teacher in junior high or high school who goes right to the line of being inappropriate, but never quite crosses it - at least not in front of anyone. He just seems a little bit too fascinated with the psyches and souls of these girls and a little too anxious to be their White Knight/Saviour/Protector.

But then, not only am I a woman (and a chubby one at that), I'm one of those selfish, bitter childless single people who doesn't ever intend to procreate, so what do I know?!

Edited because an extra word in a sentence is not a good thing!

OMG--Phil, Kitty, Star and Bitsy all together? My head may explode--

Anyone out there listen to the CBC? Today on the Roundup Dr. Phil was described as "Foghorn Leghorn giving relationship advice."

Yep, that's pretty accurate.

No shit! and $50/day? That's barely enough to cover the two of you at a fast food place in pricey L.A.

"Ah say, ah say, ah say, SON!, ya gotta get real, an, ah say ah say the only way tah get real, son, is tah buy muh books! all of 'em, son!"

The lady in the first couple of today's show was waaaayyy too smiley. It was creeping me out, mainly because there was nothing funny about what she was saying. I doubt she even loves her husband. She loves money.

Just out of curiosity, has anyone on these boards ever heard a system or method on Phil's show (not having read any of the books) that they took, applied to their own life and had it actually work and make a difference in their life? Me, not so much.

Toasty and Tarheel, ya'll have inspired me over at the latest Pixel Challenge.

It's pretty sad that I can't bring myself to watch the new shows for fresh personal snark anymore. I just can't stomach his Almighty Shillness and the Nepotism Jamboree.

Maybe if he does another fluffy episode...

Countryclubwife, you've just gotta be on the show! Just imagine the paroxysms of snark you could bring to the board. It could enrich your life I tell ya!

BWAH!!! I think that's officially my new wallpaper, Freshly Ground Coffee. Amazing how much that sidekick hen really does resemble Kitty! ;)

Dr. Phil, my son is a mooch.

Yeah? Well if he were my son...blah blah blah. (You'd buy him a mansion, a ghostwriter and a reality show. We get it).

Dr. Phil, my new husband lies on his ass all day and wants to be a star.

Yeah? Well my wife is the exact same kind of person and I think it's adorable. (Because she is a thin slug, and only a matter of time until you get her her own network like Oprah's got.)

Dr. Phil, My mom is mooching off of me.

Yeah? Well here's a gift certificate for some new panties gal. ( Ok, now we are begging you to get some help with your creepiness toward females young enough to be your daughter. Made me urp my herbal tea, that look on your face.)

Hee, preach it, Gemmadoll! What pissed me off was when he said the drug addict kid was nothing different than having a brain tumor. Ex-fucking-scuse me??! I don't want to minimize addiction because I've seen it happen, but I'm sorry a person with a brain tumor doesn't choose start having a brain tumor, Shill. I see what he was getting at, but shut. up.

I thought the daughter was kind of a bitch. Yeah the mother shouldn't be touching her damn credit, that's all kinds of wrong, but the mom really looked like she was in some emotional pain which they barely touched on at all.

I must have missed something, because I only heard that the mooching son had gotten arrested for weed. Dr. Phil amped up the hysteria so much with the "evils of drugs" sermon, you'd have thought the kid had a needle in his arm in the Green Room. There's a difference between a habit and real physical dependence - I mean, I was psychologically dependent on biting my nails for 30 years, but fingernails are not necessarily dangerous per se.

Yeah, I agree and thought he went a little over the top with this. Maybe it is my general problem with pot being a Schedule One, but experimentation does not equal problem. The kid was obviously depressed, which I think predated his drug use. I've been watching the show since the start and Dr.Phil Of It has been seriously gotten his symptom/disease issues mixed up.

I want to go on the show in the hope that he throws money at me.

Obviously, as I am now criticizing him and defending Drug Use Boy, I should check under my chair for a book that is telling me what is wrong with me...

Hello,
When did Dr. Phil start solving mental problems by giving out Victoria Secret certificates? I'M OUTRAGED!!
That totally goes against his theory that the problem isn't really about the problem.
He gave the daughter lingerie and he told the Mom (who obviously needs help) to turn things around. Then he tells the girl to buy stuff in her size not her Mom's size. Was he degrading this Mother right before our eyes or what???
Also, does anyone know if the Mom lives with the daughter?


By the way, I love this forum. The postings about "The View" really crack me up!!

To me, DP seems so wrapped up with his presidential interviews, prime time specials and promoting Kitty, BBJ, and whatever stray family members he can round up, that he just doesn't care about his "show" any more.

Remember that he says he quit his counseling practice because he got tired of his patients (I'm paraphrasing)? I'm guessing he can't figure why, after a couple of seasons of his possum-mouth-platitudes, we haven't all fixed ourselves yet.

Looks to me like he's just "phonin' it in".

McDermott, I had the impression that the mother & daughter lived together.

Yeah, the daughter was a little bit of a bitch but I cut her slack because she was going to school, working a $7/hour job, and trying to pay the bills for both of them - including, I presume, things like rent, utilities, etc. Too bad Shill didn't give the mom (and the wannabe-rock-star hubby) the kind of advice I was itching to: do what you have to do to support yourself. Clean toilets if that's all you can get and work hard to find something better. Stop holding out for a dream job and do what you have to, to make ends meet right now.

This advice comes from someone who did clean toilets, and performed other menial labor, until she found something better. I don't think a 20-year-old gal should be burdened with having to support her able-bodied mom as well.

the mooching son has been using drugs since 6th grade, does weed daily. His Mom wonders why he won't do anything with his life?! The kid is an addict, the using has robbed him of any clear thinking and as much as I hate to agree with Dr. Phulofit the kid needs rehab. he did not come across as bad as Brandon but he is in trouble.Some one who's mind is clouded by alchohol and or dugs cannot make sound decisions, if they could rehab would not be neccesary.MHO

Now wait now, he may be just letting the tail wag the dog. Or, he may not be plugged in. Maybe he's trying to get real and change what he can't acknowledge? Anyway, hope Oprah jerks a knot in his tail, because that dog won't hunt.

He also acknowledged that he'd used cocaine 20 times in the past month so I think it's a little more serious than just smokin' a little pot now and then. I actually think Dr. Phil handled that segment, along with the "rock star"'s wife, pretty well. I suspect the wife did get a "wake-up call" and will dump his ass within the next few months, and mooching kid really does need to go to rehab.

However, it seemed obvious to me that mooching mom suffers from clinical depression and needs more than just "get over it and get a job." I hope she gets treatment.

Well, Gemmadoll my darlin', that's just my perception, ya see. And as we all know (all together now!!): There's No Reality, Only Perception.

Shill told the mother, who mooched off of her daughter, to keep busy and consider taking some courses at college. The daugher specifically said that the mother is only a few credits away from getting her college degree but she will not go back and finsh it. Shill missed this. He should have asked the mom why she has not finished her degree? I think he is not putting in enough effort to read about his guests background.

Hi everyone,
I really do not feel that Phil addressed the real problem with the mooching mom. Why can't she get motivated? Is she depressed? He seemed pretty shallow in his cure of lingerie for the daughter. Sounds like he has finally gone total Hollywood on us. Everyday people problems no longer interest him.

I know that the mom and daughter live together but do they live in the mom's house or at the daughters apartment? Just curious.

Man, is Jamie Lee Curtis ever friggin' annoying. STFU bitch.

She is annoying! She speaks as if she has everything figured out and knows everything there is to know in life. Shut up!

Word! All that mumbo jumbo about 'dont raise your voice at your kids if you don't want them to do the same' fuck that. I grew up in a household where you do what the parents say regardless of how they tell you. If the parents are paying the bills, putting food in your mouth, clothing you etc they use whatever method is possible to get you to do right. You are a child, shut up and listen.

She's the ONLY guest I've ever seen that could talk over Shill. I found that amusing. And the fact she called him on the creepy giant romper room chairs. Until she kept saying "he's a niiice man". Sheesh.

And her idiocy about not drinking or doing drugs in front of your children so that they won't. Uh. No. It takes constant engagement, a firm moral compass, and good luck. Children from very good families and good backgrounds sometimes get into drinking and drugs. Luck counts.

And why does EVERY FREAKING celebrity think they can write children's books? I agree, STFU. (And that goes for Madonna and Ed Koch and all the others who are whoring themselves to children. STFU.)

The rash of celebrity-written children's books does irritate me, but I have to say, I've heard that JLC's book is actually not bad. Haven't read it myself, though. Or any of the others.

Kristin and Jay the whiney blond and the sarcastic joker.

I've seen this scenario of the sloppy housewife and the critical husband about ten times on Dr. Phil and I'm just fed up with how it's always 100% the man's fault. Phil never asks the woman if she might have some small part to play in the problem. I agree that Jay and his kindred spirits are wrong to bully, but why do the women always get off scot free? When is Phil going to tell these women that if the agreed upon distribution of labor is that the man earns the money and she takes care of the house then maybe, just maybe, she needs to step up to the plate and mop the damn kitchen floor? I'm a housewife and I take my work seriously. Phil demeans all of us when he acts like our performance doesn't matter. If the man kept getting fired from his job because of laziness and incompetence I'll bet there would be some talk about that and he wouldn't just get to whine through his nose and play the victim. Phil always opens his can of whoop ass on the husbands and makes it clear that they should quit making mean remarks ( I agree) but what are they supposed to do instead? Just resign themselves to living in a dirty chaotic house for the rest of their lives? Do it themselves at night? I think he's just addressing half the problem.

The final husband was plain creepy.

On a lighter note: Robotox's new puffy lips only leave a little tic tac of teeth showing, when she smiles. Hee.

Did anyone else think it was strange that Shill seemed almost sympathetic to mooching son re: his drug problem, comparing it to a brain tumor and excusing his bad behavior while on drugs, saying he needed rehab, almost implying that it wasn't his fault? I thought this was quite a contrast with the overweight guests who, unless they happen to be in the WLC, are expected to just read his book and straighten themselves out and not give any excuses about genetics or other reasons they've gained weight.

Re: the mooching mom - I got the impression that the daughter was trying to pay all the bills with her $7 hour job and go to school. ICAM with whoever said Shill should have probed why mom wouldn't finish her degree - maybe she was depressed over the family member's death, maybe she was scared to finish her degree because she was afraid she wouldn't be able to find a job or that she would fail professionally - there was something more there and Shill dropped the ball (quelle surprise!) probably because he was too busy fantasizing about the daughter wearing her new Victoria's Secret undies. I assume since she's in college at least this girl isn't underage, but Shill is still squicking me out with his young girl lurve. When SSJ hits 18, I wonder if Shill will be trading Kitty in for Katherine or Brianna or some other sweet young thang?! Maybe that's why Kitty and Shill are joined at the hip - if he's this creepy with her there, just imagine how bad he'd be if she wasn't;.

That's the way it is in Shill's world: If you're on drugs, they consume you and you're not responsible for your behavior (time for rehab!), but if you're overweight you just need to get off your fat ass, buy Shill's books and develop some willpower. Easy easy.

I think Shill dropped the ball with mooching mom too. She may have some psychological issues, sure, which he didn't address; but neither did he hit her hard with the notion that a 20-y.o. girl, making $7/hour, can't support both of them. It's draining her, physically and emotionally. IIRC Shill's said to other guests that it's best to just get out there: get a job, any job, to get yourself motivated and off the couch, and other successes can follow. Deal with the psych. issues, sure, but do something to make yourself feel proud that you can start to take care of yourself.

The "Be on the show" section of DrPhil.com has some great topics, including this one:



"We will be measuring the butts of Jay look-a-likes to make sure they are big enough. Free Botox will be supplied pre-show to Robin clones."

If anyone's friends and family are constantly telling them that... God help them.

I sure hope a lot of fat, ugly women send in pictures, saying, "Everyone says I look just like Robin!"

A buck for anyone who sends in a photo of his or her self--mooning the camera.

I totally would, except I'd get disqualified pretty quick since I'm black.

Just a random question: Where are Lou, Dina, et. al from? I saw that Dina's son was wearing a Yankees cap, and they all have heavy accents... Long Island?

Reply to NiceFace: I heard one of Dina's daughters mention living in New Jersey. It came up in discussions about Lou's 16 year old daughter moving in with them. She had 3 choices as to where to live but chose to live with Lou and Dina so she could be near her friends. Dina's daugher then mentioned that the family lives in New Jersey.

About an hour north up the coast from Atlantic City. (They live about a mile from me.)

King Sphincter does it again! A young woman trying to eat herself into immobility? Phil gives a 15 second lecture on hypertension & heart disease. Period. Why? Because--I think--the Fat Acceptance members keep going off on his insistence that everyone needs to be thin, so he refuses to intervene in any case where someone isn't begging for help. He seemed almost petulent. Didn't invite her on the show because what, her girth would scare Kitty?

An unfortunate man who is mutilating his body in order to look like a cat. Phil is haughty. "Bet he draws the line at eating cat food..." he jokes. Again, he is not there in person. Why? Scare Kitty.

Nothing wrong with a fetish, but if you accost women on the street and ask about their feet you are VICTIMIZING them. Some women would be so skeeved out they may not recover for quite a while. In some areas it might get you arrested. Just like wolf whistles, most women hate that crap Phil. Don't you understand? Don't you understand ANYTHING about women?

The coupe de grace was the little fame whore who worships Phil. I didn't buy that for a nanosecond. No way. Nuh uh. What the girl wants is to be on Real World and this is her shot, she thinks. Phil invited her on. Kitty approved. Phil gave her a gift basket. The girl's face fell. Watch it in slow mo. See the thought bubble over her head: "Cash? Trip? Computer? Car? The hell?" A basket of Phil products and more, because he mentioned "taking a bath." Oh, ick. Dr Phil bubble bath or more Victoria Secret crap? At least there was no thong in the basket--WE HOPE.

I can't watch the vacuum lady, or the purple people. Phil will try to Robin Williams through it and Phil, you sir are no Robin Williams. Done.