Man the 'i'm too good lookin' to get a date' guy just made a complete ass of himself. I seriously cannot believe that he worked up enough nerve to go on Dr. Phill just for that reason.

First of all--if you are that GOOD LOOKING you should not have to try so hard to get a fuckin' date. Changing how you look--how you dress is just ridiculous. He is doing something wrong. My opinion is that he must be one helluva corny dude. Really--who runs from a fine ass guy.

It was so funny when Dr. Phil asked the ladies their opinion on him, and when they clearly let it be known that he isn't that good looking to the point it was intimidating...I thought the guy was going to cry. He is really delusional. Me thinks that he had this idea in his head that everybody was going to agree that he was so fine and all the ladies would go ga-go over him but it backfired big time. I agree with the last young ladies opinion--he isn't all that--although she gracefully said it in a different way.

Shut up, Robin. Shut up, Dr Shill.
So, I guess a TV in the bedroom's only a no-no for kids, eh, Dr Phil?
And Robin gets up at 5:15 am every morning to run on the treadmill. Great. So now you're going to make moms and nonmom women all over the country feel even worse about themselves. Not me, though!

I feel so sorry for the "Too Good Looking for my Own Safety And Well-Being" guy. Son, look up "Body Dysmorphic Disorder." What you have is funhouse mirror syndrome. You see a god, but remember that god backwards...

No, I kid the demi god. Lad, you're average and leaning toward the above average face-wise. I mean, you wouldn't scare away runway models but none of them would hop out of a cab and chase you up Fifth Avenue either. Just sayin. That's all.

Oprah did a show once about being beautiful vs being ugly. You had no idea how audience members saw themselves until they announced that they were "cute" and intimidated everyone or "ugly" and frightened the chickens. It became a game of sorts. Poor Oprah was suppressing guffaws so hard she was registering a forehead vein the width and length of Florida. You could see,"Bitch please!" in a thought bubble over her head.

To paraphrase, whether you think you're beautiful or you think you're homely, you're right. Just don't become so convinced of your own Hallie Berryness that you go on TV and get reamed. Get a second opinion, then a third. Then shut up. So you won a genetic lottery. Thank your parents and move on.

OH... MY... GOD!

Today's show was just VULGAR!

Phil & Robin's bedroom was so over-the-top and ornate that I was ready to vomit! The McGraw's have no shame and no class... they are simply classic Nouveaux Riche White Trash. I would be ashamed to have a house and furnishings like that. What was Robin's next line going to be? My guess is that it was:

"Let them eat cake!"

As for Robin balancing her needs with that of the family, they didn't bother to point out certain details such as that the boys are grown, that Robin doesn't work, and that Robin & Phil can afford to have slaves do pretty much everything for them. Considering that Wanna-Be-Writer-Mom is providing full-time childcare, cleaning, and cooking, Robin's stern admonishment that she take time for herself (when there's clearly no time to be taken) was so out-of-touch with reality.

Of course Robin can get up at 5 am the bitch doesn't have to work!

Man-Boobs 2004 was painful to look at and this time I do agree with Phil on this kid getting plastic surgery.

I'm-Too-Sexy-For-Myself was fairly decent looking but in an airbrushed and pretty boy sort of way. I suspect he's probably gay, but beyond that little detail, he also needs to develop a personality and expand his values to include concepts not force fed into him by GQ, Abercrombie & Bitch, and Old Navy.

Blech I agree! I wanted to smack Kitty, who gives a flying sack of shit what her bedroom looks like or what time she gets up. I'm with you, DR. AL, Oh yeah I'm sure she's just frazzled with all that money, one of her boys an adult, the other one almost there, Phil off doing God knows what, and having no job. How does she do it???

The "too good looking" guy I felt kind of bad for. Clearly something was off about him and he really did look like he was going to cry. I thought he was an attractive guy, but the more I looked at him, the cuter he wasn't. Maybe that's the problem? Dork.

I was also for the kid's surgery, that will never go away and I can imagine how humiliating it would be to be a teen boy and have boobs like that. The bad thing was that it gave Shill another excuse to pimp an old book!

Sorry to offend anyone whose taste mirrors Dr. Phil's, but that house and the furnishings, per the link above, are just awful. Stereotypically overdone, gauche to the point of trashy. Just revolting.
And word to the nth degree with respect to everyone saying that Phil did no favors to the man with the shopaholic fiancee. Thirty days is nothing. What Dr. Shill did was like telling an alcoholic that he would buy her a stocked wine cellar if she quit drinking for thirty days.
And besides, how special is an engagement ring that some stranger gave you as a prize for quitting your nasty behavior for a short period of time? I'm not married, nor have I ever been, but I thought that part of what was supposed to be wonderful about an engagement ring was that someone saved up and sacrificed to buy it for you. Now her fiance isn't even really giving her the ring. Dr. Shill and his corporate whores are giving her the ring. Ick.

That bedroom - ugh! It looks like something Christopher Lowell would hork up after a three-day bender.

ITA about the house, but it's very, very unlikely that the furnishings/decor were there when the McGraws were in residence. These days, almost all high-end properties are "staged" by professional decorators -- the homeowners move out all of their own furniture, and basically the entire house is made to look like a giant model home. The idea is that your own personal touches will inhibit would-be buyers from imagining how they would fit into the home. I know a couple of local women who do staging, and they have a whole warehouse of furnishings and accessories that they use for their jobs, ranging from shabby chic to ornate.



Betcha things were very different when the boys were young and Phil was not yet the king of all media. But of course, Robin would never admit to having been frazzled and stressed out, which I'm sure she was at times; it would hurt her image as the Perfect Mom, Wife and Homemaker.

No comment on the gross bedroom.

But calling a wedding day the most important day in a woman's life because that is the day she becomes a "true adult and citizen" is insulting and ignorant. On behalf of all the single (and thinking married) women in the world, fuck you, Dr. Phil!

I'm in Atlanta, so I don't know what episode was played for the rest of you. But what kind of surgery was Paul talking about having?

A Man-Boob Reduction. He bought Phil's book, lost all the weight, but his chest skin was stretched out from the years of obesity and he actually had some Man-Boobs post weight loss. Unfortunately, many people who lose dramatic amounts of weight then have to deal with the problem of sagging flesh. I can't believe Phil called them Man Breasts because the correct pop-culture term is Man-Boobs!

Has anyone else noticed that everyone who comes to talk shows with their problems is either looking for:

a) On on-air flogging before a live studio audience in order to repent (usually they are Christians).

b) To promote themselves under the guise of "getting help" as did Plump Piano Chick with the pseudo-phobia of public performance or Wanna-Be-Chris-Rock who claimed to be traumatized by Phil's FUF programming and then decimated those people with a Worthy-Of-Chris-Rock riff on their failings.

b) To humiliate and expose and discredit an errant spouse that they are about to dump.

c) To have their problems fixed with Phil, Oprah, or whomever's money and divine power.

Big fat WORD, DR. AL, especially to c) - with the emphasis on money!

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and a big bag of money."

Last season there was a female guest on who was pissing and moaning how she is too pretty, so women don't like her and all the men think she is flirting even when she is not.She just could not understand why she was not getting any sympathy for being so beautiful(she was not all that either). maybe Dr. Phulofit can hook up to pretty and too handsome and they can live happily ever after and leave us alone.

I've never watched this show, but I caught the preview for the guy who thought he was too good-lookin' (shyeah, right) and had to tune in.

OK, in the first segment, the Ask Robin or whatever Phil's wife name is, is her advice always beyond obvious? I felt so sorry for that poor woman who's doing 10 loads of laundry a day, because it's obvious her husband is changing his clothes and underwear at least 3 times a day, and Robin's stupid advice was if that's the biggest problem you have in your marriage you should be grateful?!?! She said something else equally nonsensical before that and the audience clapped like it was the Dalai Lama's last pearl of wisdom. Then Phil goes, well, it's not like your down at the river scrubbing the stuff down on rocks, so shut up and quit complaining. Well, duh, but doing that much laundry is a huge pain in the ass - you're never finished! Maybe I'm oversensitive because I hate doing laundry so much, let alone someone else's. Ugh.

The guy who thinks he's too cute? I thought Dr Phil's advice to him was crappy, oblique, and totally unhelpful. It was good that he asked the women's opinions, but then he didn't really tell him what the obvious problem was - based on the video of this moron approaching women, he acted like they were oh so lucky to get to talk to him and came on really strong and creepily. He needs to act like he's interested in the woman herself - he seems to think all he needs to do is say hello and she's gonna cream her panties. Sheesh, what a tool. I thought that Dr. Phil was direct - it seemed to me he wasn't here, and the occasion called for it.

Couldn't watch the rest of this dreck, so I missed what he told Bridezilla. But based on Toasty's post above, it's a good thing I changed the channel.

The sex must be really good for this guy to put up with this con artist. Dr. Shill should have told this guy to start thinking with his big head and dump this loser because she bankrupts him. There are probably a string of ex-boyfriends and ex-roommates who have been burned by this woman. All Dr. Shill can do is dangle a caret (get it?) on a stick in front of her. Dr. Shill must be getting a kick-back from the DeBeers people.



I remember that chick. She came on the show in some low-cut blouse and her hair hanging down. She used the old push-up-my-boobs-with-my-upper-arms trick and leaned over into Dr. Shill's face the whole time. When I was in college, I knew a girl who complained that others where jealous because she was soooo pretty. She was pretty, yes, but she was also a slut who stole people's boyfriends.

Also, why does Robin have to get up at 5:15 every morning anyway? It's not like she has a house to clean, a job to go to, or a kid to fix breakfast for? My mother woke up at 4 am every morning so she could catch the 5 am bus to go to work! My brothers and I got ourselves up, fixed our own breakfasts, and caught the school bus.

The Laundry Lady should go on strike. Tell hubby and the kids to wash their own undies.

I was thinking about this, too. Mr. Jean generates about that amount of laundry (I don't have kids) and it is a massive undertaking, even with teh two of us, for me to do our laundry because we do not have a washing machine.

So I have to go to the laundromat and, of course, stay there because I don;t want someone stealing the clothes,because, you know, it happens.

He's quite a bit more busy jobwise than I am right now, so I don't mind so much, but it is labor intensive and it does take a lot of time. Add kids to the mix, and I could see myself being driven insane after awhile.

If they have an in-house washer, he should totally help do it, there really is no excuse. She should just stop washing his stuff. I went on a similar "sock strike" a while back and it worked like a charm.

Dr.Phil-er-up and Bobbin' Head Robin's advice was terrible, they just basically belittled her problem....but some things DO get to you, and it's a sign of a lack of respect when your spouse just expects you to take it.

What do you want to bet that she's the kind of woman who has to be completely made up before hubby sees her? Heaven forfend he catch a glimpse of her before she's "put her face on"! I once met a woman who -- no lie -- claimed her husband had NEVER seen her without makeup; she got up early and went to bed late to accomplish this. Very bizarre.

I also think Laundry Lady should go on strike. If hubby had to wash his own clothes, I'll bet he wouldn't be changing outfits 3 times a day.

Maybe I am not understabding the laundry thing because I am not married myself, but wtf is up with that? My mom does all the laundry. My stepmom does all the laundry. Today I even had lunch with a career woman who has been marired for one year, and guess what she tells me she does on the weekend? Mike's laundry. Why? Are men completely incapable of washing their own damn clothes? What was Mike doing before she married him? Am I doomed to a life on spinsterhood if I insist that my future husband take 15 minutes out of his schedule to prepare his own laundry? I don't get it at all. Maybe this is something that as a non-married person I just cannot understand, but in a household with two functioning adults, I don;t see why they can't each be responsible for their own clothes.

masked_spangler - I'm a recent newlywed and I too have been suckered into doing all the laundry. He has other chores that he's responsible for, but I will always do all the laundry-mainly because I don't trust him to separate my delicates and 'cold wash' stuff from the towels, t-shirts, socks, and undies. He tends to put everything in on super hot. He also hates doing the laundry just like I hate cleaning the bathroom. So he's on bathroom cleaning, and I do the laundry.

Also it would be totally inefficient to have two separate laundry details, it would almost be like you're each responsible for cooking your own dinner. One of the most beautiful parts about marriage is that it's a true partnership (Can you tell I'm a newlywed?! I even get sappy about chores *sigh*).

masked_spangler, you are not doomed to a life of doing your hubby's laundry if/when you get married. At the risk of sounding sexist, laundry is actually a great chore for men because they can do it on weekends while watching sports on TV -- you just run into the laundry room during the commercials.

I would suggest that if you don't want to be stuck with the "second shift," do NOT marry a man whose mom waited on him hand and foot. Mr. loudfan is the son of a busy single mother, so he's been doing his own laundry since the time he was old enough to reach the controls of the washing machine. Someone like "Patriarch Phil," on the other hand, who has very rigid ideas of gender roles is more likely to expect wifey to do all the chores and put a hot meal on the table every night.

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Heh, that actually sounds like a pretty good division of labor to me... I'd rather do laundry than clean the bathroom too!

My father has more flexible hours than my mother does, so whoever has the time does the laundry (whatta concept!). He has also mastered loading & running the dishwasher, putting meat between two pieces of bread when he wants a sandwich, and pushing the buttons on the microwave to heat up a leftover for dinner if necessary. Amazing, huh?

Oh, I understand division of chores and all that. I just don;t understand someone like this career woman I met with today who was telling me how much she used to love teaching swimming lessons to children on the weekend but she can't do that now because she works and she is married so the weekend is the only time she has to do his laundry for him. I also don;t understand why my stepmom does not make her teenaged children handle their own stuff. My mom has us doing our own laundry at early high school. She had just gotten re-married so it was a perfect time to say okay we are making some changes because we all had to move. So she's all well, you can wait for *me* to do the laundry if you want to but there is no guarantee when that will happen so if you want your stuff done when you want it done, here is how the machine works and way we went.

I watched all the website blurbs from Phil's show and it looks like he did not actualyl give any of the people any answers! He presented the problem and is all 'yup, that's a problem' but he did not actually tell them what to do. What's that about?

Also---this might be an unpopular opinion, but...I am getting a bit tired of all the parenting shows. I know family is important and all, I would love to have kids and do that one day. But right now it is just me here and it is a bit annoying to have day after day after day of shows that have nothing for me. I would even be okay with something like Family First day the way they had the weight loss stuff on one day last year. But this all family and kids all the time is just...boring. Well, for me, anyway. No offense to anyone who has kids, I just wish he would have more of a mix,y ou know? Like, some shows about kids but some also not about kids?

I really wish Phil would quit telling all the bad parents to sit their children down and apologize to them before changing their ways. Just change your ways. Quit spanking or demeaning or fighting in front of them but please don't tell a six year old that you've been doing everything wrong and you're sorry. I think if my parents had done that to me I would have felt the earth move under my feet - and not in a good way.

No offense taken, and I have a kid! (I also have a husband, friends, a job, household issues, and things that aren't 100% kid...shhhh...don't tell anyone.)

But hey....he had Mr. I'm Uber-Hot Guy who scared off women. And Ask Robin Day. Those shows are all for you! (Now don't you wish you had kids????)

Has anyone seen the commercial for Tim Allen's new movie? I didn't catch the name of it due to laughing because there is a scene where Jamie Lee Curtis, who apparently plays Tim's wife/girlfriend, is with him in a restaurant after he's had botox and is telling him how his face doesn't move, etc. - He looks surprised and his eyebrows go up at an angle and he looked like he could have been Kitty's twin brother!


Philmphile, don't be silly, taking care of Shill and SSJ is Kitty's job and she wuvs it!

Robin has to get up at 5:15 to do her time-warp Beauty Routine.

I'm afraid we are probably stuck with the pointless, ill-conceived parenting advice and how to raise your kids the DrShill way! shows until he is through shilling his Family First! book. masked_spangler maybe after he "writes" and starts shilling Single People Second! there will be some ill-conceived dating advice and how to land a patriarchial man the DrShill way! shows (God help us) Unless BBJ is giving out the dating advice, and said dating advice involves BBJ flipping off Shill and Kitty on-air and then making out with me in the green room, I want no part of it ;)

Some women are compelled to run the house and do all the laundry because some women are control freaks. And some of us like to do everything then complain and act like martyrs for sacrificing so much for our families. Many won't admit it but its true.

Unfortunately, I can be a bit picky when it comes to the house chores. Maybe it was upbringing because I came up thinking that a man who can't keep house is trifling but a woman in a dirty house REALLY needs to be ashamed. I have to have things cleaned a certain way, I wouldn't trust my boyfriend to do my laundry and I pretty much will dictate how the house looks, is decorated, everything. I assume extra laundry will be the price I pay for all this power. When I get married, I'm also assuming that I'll probably be responsible for laundry much of the time, while he's responsible for the mortgage. I don't mind that trade off but that's just me.

10 loads of laundry....and Dr. Phil says to tough it out because you're not washing the clothes at the local creek? It's not like he or his wife does laundry. I have 3 kids two of which are under 2 and the laundry is incredible - sometimes I want to cry about it. LOL.

That said, my 10 year old does her own laundry and believe me it helps a lot. He should have told her to start having her kids help out.

I just came across this funny semi interview with Roseanne where she just rips into Dr. Phil. I find it funny because its precisely what so many on this board have been saying for so long, although Hitler may be going slightly over the top.

Roseanne Lambastes Dr. Phil

Shhh! Don't give Dr. Shill any ideas!

That's not a far-fetched idea, though. Dr. Shill has tackled couples, parenting, fat people. What's next? He hasn't jacked up single people yet. That'll be a good scam for Jay to take over. Remember that "The Rules" book that came out ten years ago? Dr. Shill can photocopy that, put his name on it, and hawk it until kingdom come.

Or maybe Robin can write the book "How To Find a Control Freak Husband," or "Stay In Shape For Your Man."

philmphile, The Rules came to my mind, too. There was a guy on Oprah last week who had written something called He's Just Not That Into You that had a similar message and if Phil wanted to be a little more subtle than usual he could have his ghost writer blend the two. Robin could then come on and say something trite about "playing hard to get" and the audience could give her a standing ovation.



Guilty as charged Lahboogie. My husband tried to take over the laundry for me last year because I had been griping about the stairs to the basement. After a few weeks I begged him to stop. When we first married I found the best way he could help me with housework was to take a shopping list and get out of my way for two hours.

I hate that prick Dr. Shill, and his whole fricking FUF family.

Laundry, not so much.

BUT, my 15 yr. old son does his own. (Although I do all the whites).

I do laundry bec. I can multitask--do other stuff at the same time, frankly most of the housework, bec I work pt. When I was FT, I was very angry at doing most of the housework and went through angry stage, martyr stage, not-doing-it stage, kid-myself-that-it's-good-exercise stage, etc.

Then I called the Maids and had them for about 7 yrs. until we could not afford them.

Now, I still do most stuff--I like it clean and neat. I like feeling responsible. I do ask my Husband to vaccuum every Saturday a.m. which he does and other stuff--like folding towels, that he can do while watching tv. He would never think to do anything on his own--it's just not in his thought process. He has been know to step over a laundry basket for days, rather than move it to the basement.

I can't wait for the day when I can get the Maids again. Housework sucks almost as much as Dr. Shill and BotoxBovine Robin and BBJay.

Bwah! That's funny.

Also, a choice bit from that Roseanne link: "I would fight him in a grudge match if I were a wrestler." Bwah!

I do still think Dr. Phil does have some merit. That Life Strategies book really helped me and I still think some of it is true. I wish he would focus more on that kind of thing and elss on this woo-woo authentic self crap. And also, as I said, maybe one or two shows for people who don't have kids :)

Wow, lahboogie, when did you meet my mother?? Hee.

But seriously, Shill couldn't give good advice to Laundry Lady because he and Kitty have no concept of what it's like to do real-life chores like that anymore.

I felt bad for Spankin' Dad. IMO it's always wrong to beat your kids, but poor SD should've learned some daytime-TV therapy-speak before he went on Shill's show. He said his goal for his kids was to raise them to be obedient, law abiding adults; he didn't say a word about making them feel loved, or good in their own skins, etc. Poor guy was a meal for Shill.

I don't think the anger is about the housework. My ex when we were married wanted to be a stay at home wife(no children). I had no problem with that. She took care of the house and I took care of a job. We both considered that a fair division of the work. I set up a household account of $4000/month for taking care of the house(no utilities, morgage or car payments). She also had an account of $2000/month to do with whatever she wanted. It wasn't pay. I believe that everyone needs money that is theirs and not have to answer to anyone about. After two years she started to tell me how tired she was from doing house work and how she had to cut back on her charity work. She wanted me to help. I said OK and did what I did before I was married. I hired a housecleaner for MWF. My ex hit the roof. I was totally lost as to why. I loved her and always let her know it. We took weekend vacations every 4-6 weeks. We took longer ones 3-4 times a year. We went out to eat at least 3 times a week. I loved her and gave her anything she wanted. I started doing some of the house work when I got home. Six months later she told me she wanted a divorce because "she didn't love me anymore" and would not go to counseling. Sorry for the long post.

ITA. I think Laundry Lady was feeling less-than-validated by her husband, and instead of maybe keying into this, Dr.Phillatio mocked her, instead of validating her.

Laundry may or may not be a big deal, but I had the feeling that Mr.Laundry Lady was under the impression that the laundry was done by Magical Laundry Elves instead of his wife. And with how difficult being stuck in the house doing laundry and taking care of kids can be, a simple thank you or "I'll take it out of the drier" can do wonders.

As for me, as I mentioned, laundry is a big deal because I have to physically remove it from the apartment to get it done. I doubt that is the lady's situation, but here in NYC I know couples who it is a serious issue for because it can be so time consuming. We almost literally do have to take it down to the river and pound it on the rocks!





Dude had to know that Dr.Philsbury Doughboy would have a problem with this - which is oddly one of the few things I am in total agreement with him about, parenting-wise. Off topic, but illuminating: Mr.Jean is a psychologist who teaches intro classes in Psychology. Inevitably, when the parenting styles thing comes up (Dr. Philter feeder did sooo not come up with that!), they discuss spanking. There are always a few people who stand up and say, "My parents spanked me and I turned out fine!!" and those people are never at the top of the class, in fact they are almost always at the very bottom. I don't want to offend anyone who was disciplined that way, but, you are right...Spanking Dad was completely unprepared for the talk show rules of engagement.



He still needs to tackle Married Couples without Kids - What Were You Thinkin'? or Why I Think You Are So Selfish!

Yes, please. And have me & Mr Tivvy on (oh! But scandal, we've been living together for 5 years, with no plans to get married!), so that we can concur with him. We are selfish. We do like things the way they are. And neither of us are mentally stable enough to be parents (if I say that the beagle makes me cry sometimes when she won't listen, do you think he'll have me as a guest?).

And Robin just bothers me. Me & Mr Tivvy have a pretty traditional (if unmarried) relationship. I decorate, I cook, I clean, I pull his clothes out for the next day (yes, really). But I don't think it's something every woman would enjoy, and oddly enough, Mr Tivvy is appreciative of my efforts.

A local morning DJ has been railing on Dr Phil for the past couple of days (spurred by the Roseanne interview). I really hope he or his staff read this, since they espouse the same "what a waste of airtime" view.

Oh, and hi. I read y'all regularly, just don't usually find much more to say other than "I agree. Absolutely. She's right. He's right. I hate this show. I won't watch any more. . .after today."

Kimberlee Jean, oddly enough, in my house, the Laundry Elves DO take care of the laundry--it's a running joke with my thoughtful roommate, that I come home from work to find my laundry thoughtfully folded (and sometimes my bed even made with the fresh sheets). "Laundry Elves" also sometimes take care of her clothes, or are rewarded with gifts of flowers or their favorite candy--sour Skittles. My folks taught me that thoughtful division of labor was the benchmark of good relationships, and martydom serves nobody. Dr. Shill would serve his guests better by playing up that angle. Also, while I thought at first that I was too punk rock for this website, application of the philosphies found here have proven to be very effective and supportive. About half the martyr haus fraus on "Shill and Kitty's Poor-Me Parade" could use it.

BWAH! As a another evil! selfish! childless! person who owns a sometimes unruly dog, I would so watch that show. Shill would probably use the exact same advice he gives the kids, just recycled for dogs. You can potty train your beagle in one day!

Remember the Morton Downey Jr show from about 15 years ago? Dr Shill is the Morton Downey Jr of the kinder, gentler Bush era. It's conservatism prettily packaged in pretty pink soundbites. Dr. Shill makes all the "Standing In The Gap" crusade jargon palpable to us unwitting liberals. Dr. Shill is kindly, gently telling us that dad has to be the sole breadwinner/head of the family and mom has to be the agreeable Stepford wife in order to have a happy, successful family. All social ills derive from a deviation of the Ozzie-and-Harriet ideal.

Over time, Morton Downey Jr's novelty wore off and his ratings plummeted. Maybe the same thing will happen to Dr. Shill.

So far I've not watched a single episode of the new season. How disappointing this guy turned out to be! Season one was so promising then last season was definitely the turning of the tide. Sorry, I can't appreciate the mockery he and his co-horts are making out of counseling field. I just can't support that.

Btw... and I may be incredibly late to this revelation, but after listening to many tapes and learning more about another guy, I now know where DrP gets his "stuff". This guy TOTALLY rips off Dr. Wayne Dyer! As if the baldhead and mustache (early WD) aren't enough, I hear DrWD using all kinds of so-called "DrP-isms".... 10 and 20 yrs ago!
However, DrWD makes one think for themselves, not use them and their situation for personal gain.

Give me a break. Buh-bye, DrP!

Ok gang.....for several months Dr. Phil has been stringing us along. He wants us to be on a show because my husband and I disagree about one of our child's activities. We don;t fight....DH just says he thinks it is stupid and I think it is also stupid by our child enjoys it so I just allow him to keep doing it. Supposedly the show is about the "difference of opinion" that we have. Dr. Shill might be disappointed because we do not knock down drag out fight and we love and respect one another.

Anyway.....a few observations. I talked with one of the producers last night. Those gals work ALL hours....they have even called us on a Sunday! I asked her about that and she said that is the worst part about working for Phil- that he works them 80 hours a week. (Do you think HE works 80 hours a week?)

I am not sure if we want to go on the show or not.....I really can't stand him anymore. I used to like him when he was on Oprah. (Can't stand her either.) I want to tell him that he should take his own advice and go on a frickin' diet. (I weigh 135 pounds at 5'7" so I guess I can talk.) What do you think? If I could work that in during our segment? Give me some snark ideas please.

What do all of you think about this? I mean, it really is a non-issue for us so Phil won;t get mcuh good fodder but still.....free trip to LA (hurray- can't stand the place) and a chance to make Phil look bad? Do it or not?

Thanks gang!

Omigosh, that is too funny! I have a beagle, too! Sometimes I feel like crying when I crate him before work, but since I'm an evil childless person, I'm sure my suffering is unjustifiable.

Can I be your second wife, aszxas? I believe I could slip myself right into that job description quite nicely.

And countryclubwife, is your dilema a no-brainer or not? GO FORTH and SPREAD TO THE MASSES the good news of TV w/o PITY!! Beside, I want to see how good you look after your plastics (Dr. 90210 thread). As long as your kid doesn't throw poop on the greenroom walls, what could hurt?

parsleysage LOL! Do you guys really want me to let him in on where he should look for snark about himself? I. Just. Hate. Him. It kinda feels like selling out. Plus.....I am not as quick witted as some of you here and would hate to let anyone down!

CCW, don't worry, you wouldn't let anyone down.

DrP uses that deer-in-the-headlights approach, and I know I'd lose the ability to think on my feet with cameras, lights, and a loud, angry bald guy lecturing me.

CCW ,If you have the stomach for it, it would be cool to be on the show and get some insider insight. Could be interesting.

CCW, don't forget, it ain't a live show and he owns the editing. If you snark him too badly, he'll edit that puppy until you come off as Stacy2, The Howler Monkey. I don't think he'd take too kindly to TWoP, either, knowing his penchant for controlling every freaking word that was ever written about him.

But if you wanted the free trip out of it, and hey, that's cool, I'm sure we could figure out how you could have fun with it.



I'm sure they're all evil childless people and have no other life but their jobs, and he's completely justified in working them into an early grave. Jiminy.

Countryclubwife, here is my take on this. Dr. Shill's EDITORS also work long hours, so you can bet the country club that if you try to snark, disagree, or otherwise refuse to play the DrShill games, either your snark will wind up on the cutting room floor or they will try to make you look bad. Failing that, your whole piece will get tossed out. I'd say go for the free trip, but if you hate L.A., there's not a lot of incentive.
Is this activity is that your son wants to do, but Countryclubhubby thinks is silly, somehow gender related? If it can at all be turned into a gender thing, I'm sure that's what Shill will do.
I'd like to see you go on there just to come back here and give us a behind the scenes snark, but speaking from an editor's perspective, any of your attempts to bring down the Shill will probably backfire. (again, I'm not an editor for Shill, but I've edited segments for talk shows before. I know the games they play and the tricks they use!)