Check this out. It describes the experience of an audience member of the Shill show.
http://www.raggededgemagazine.com/extra/dr...lnightmare.html

Great-- and snarky-- recap of Phil and W. enounter on the Washingtonpost website in the Style Section.

Unfortunately, ABC Evening News even ran a short clip of the interview. Lord knows why. I can't imagine any news organization so desperate for an interview with the President that they had to use that one.

I sat through the whole Shill and Dubya interview, gritting my teeth the entire time. KittySurprise was dragged along to shove her into the spotlight - she's so useless. She was hyperventilating before the interview: "We're making history! This will be a part of history!" Whatever, moron. Shill lobbed softballs at the Bushes the entire time; never once did he ask a tough question like, "Do you think all your drinkin' and huffin' set a bad example for your girls? Especially since they were caught underage drinking a couple of times?" If Shill had an average (i.e. non-famous) dad on his show, he'd tear the guy a new one for being a heavy drinker around little kids. But Dubya got a pass.

When Shill asked the Bushes a question, they'd sometimes respond differently. When he asked if they ever spanked the girls, Laura said "Not at all" and Dubya said "Sometimes," but Shill never pursued any of these conflicting answers.

Also, the Bushes were good at picking up Shill-style therapy-speak PDQ.

So, the bottom line: the Bushes get a pass while Shill asks the Heinz-Kerry duo terrifically personal questions about divorce, how their kids coped with divorce, blended families, etc.

I took a media relations class once and one of the things I learned about interviewing someone is that the interviewer should do LESS talking than the interviewee. Would one of y'all go tell Dr. Phil?

I swear, he NEVER shut up! Many of the Bushes' answers were one word or "Mm-hm" because they couldn't get a word in edgewise. And it must have taken him two full minutes at the very beginning to lay out his premise, plug the primetime show, the book, and the new shows about the book, and finally get around to asking a question.

I'm no fan of the Bushes, but even as a campaign appearance, this just seemed like a colossal waste of their time.

I totally and respectfully disagree.

The entire "interview" was a free campaign montage for the Bushes. And effective, too, for those voters who could care less about the issues and are making decisions based on such important considerations as how nice the candidate is and how much he loves his family. In fact, during the mini (read: bullshit and tightly controlled) Q&A afterward, I saw an audience member shaking her head disapprovingly at a woman who dared try to minimally call the President out on his "do what I say not what I do" attitude.

Not only did Bushie get to repeat his favorite line about how he's so down to earth and regular but he also got to talk about how a governor is a better shoice for President (presumably than a senator) because he's closer to the people. Phil also lobbed him the clincher: that he makes decisions for the country in the same way he makes decisions for his family - out of love.

Okay, talkstoomuch, I'll concede that it was, in fact, a good PR move. I guess any TV face time at this point is valuable to the cause. It's just that when an incumbent presidential candidate agrees to do this kind of sit-down interview, it's usually framed as a showcase for the candidate and his platform/views/life/whatever. This felt more like The Dr. Phil and Robin Show with special guests the Bushes. In other words, the emphasis was more on the interviewer and his agenda than on the interviewee.

I'm guessing this was taped in July during the Democratic convention, when the Bushes were laying low in Crawford. Otherwise, I'd be very surprised that the campaign or the White House would allow the First Family's valuable time to be taken up doing what ended up as testimonials for Dr. Phil's parenting philosophy. As always, this is just my take on it--YMMV.

Love. Yes, that's what it is. AND he'll respect you in the morning. Really!

I watched a few minutes of the interview but started twitching so badly that we were afraid the bad television had triggered a seizure, sort of like all those kids in Japan. What I can't get is the fact that both the Bushes and McGraws have no self-awareness. It's so Scarlet O'Hara -- I'm not going to think about my drunken twins today; I'll think about that tomorrow. I'm not going to face my total hypocrisy about BBJ today; I'll think about that tomorrow. And for them, tomorrow never comes.

I'm hoping that when Karma finally shows up, she's carrying a very large bat.

Ultimately, even in discussing the fate of our nation and the free world, it's about Phil. Every talk about family values (his or anyone else's) is always about Phil. After hearing how he treated his former business partners I suspect his ego will ultimately rupture and take a goodly amount of his credibility with it. Put him in khaki's and he'd make a damned fine third world dictator. He has too much lust for power and wealth combined with a moldy idea of marriage and a woman's place in the world.

Little tidbit: Today BBJay had a remote soundbite for FUF's sixteen year old daughter. He talked about family, and if you read between the lines I think he's trying to tell us that things aren't so green over the McGraw septic tank. If he wasn't beholden to his father I'll bet he could write a Kittykelley that would give Phil a coronary. Something about Phil is deep and dark and barbed, going to explode full force and surprise everybody. Watch this space.

Here's the above mentioned article from the wonderful Lisa de Moraes. You should bookmark her columns site because her TV columns are really great. Lisa's columns And, lest you don't want to sign up to read the Washington Post online, I give you bugmenot.com

And when the (Heinz-)Kerrys are on?

I agree with divasahm and Gemmadoll. It's all Phil, all the time, and I'm shocked that the Bushes and the (Heinz-)Kerrys even agreed to be part of it. The whole "Candidate as Celebrity Interview" trend is just awful, whichever side you're on. I couldn't be less interested in their kids or their dogs or their hobbies. It's an utter waste of time...nobody is going to say anything remotely interesting, shocking or revealing so what's the point? I would blame Bill Clinton for starting this whole touchy-feely style of politics, but I blame him for everything and that's not fair.

Re: FUF3. I missed their debut during the primetime special, but can anyone share what did teenage son do that was so eggregious (sp?) that Dad entirely quit communicating with him when Mom overrode his punishment?

I could be wrong, but I think he tried to push the father down a flight of stairs? Someone tried to push someone down a flight of stairs.

I saw a magazine article earlier (not sure which, maybe Ladies Home Journal) with an article by Dr. Phil about "Building the Perfect Family." I looked at his robotic botox bitch and realized that Dr. Phil has built himself what he considers to be the "perfect wife."

RE: FUF3

The boy forgot to take the trash out or bring the empty trashcans back from the curb...the father punished him (no TV tonight), and the mom overrode him b/c she wanted the boy to be able to watch TV with the family.

So the dad thought "hey, if you want to be the only parent for this child, I'll wash my hands of him". Asshat.

Guys, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the interview was not all about Phil acting like it was important to wash the Bushes in his special glow of superior parenting. I agree 100% that it was.

My only disagreement was with the idea that it was a political waste of time for the Bushes. Since I am certain they reached a lot of people - for example, the non-voting women on Oprah - who could care less about political issues. Hence my characterization of the interview as a vehicle for the campaign.

I am sure it will be the same for the Kerrys. Phil's superiority complex knows no political party.

Thanks JenD -
That's even lamer than I expected. What a fucktard that father is - ignore the kid because the mother decides to question his author-i-tay.

These people don't reach the trainwreck proportion of FUF1 and FUF2 - maybe Shill is realizing his limitations - naw!

And looks like the Weight Loss Challenge Crew is back. I'd like to see Smug Jim regain his weight and have Bitch Wife be bitchy to him again.

Today's follow up with the weight loss participants was sad, sad. The woman who brought her immobile-due-to-obesity husband tons of junk food because she was afraid if he lost weight would leave her ? She has arranged that self-fulfilling prophecy. He didn't get to shed the pounds and seek out a better life, where he got to move and grow and experience things,to forego the indignity of an unwashed body and bed sores and infection, instead he succumbed beneath the rockpile of his own flesh, suffocated by an asthma attack no doubt brought about or made much more severe by his precarious health, his struggling heart and his taxed lungs.

She said that she was thankful he had passed quietly in his sleep. As he lived his life, I guess. Impassive, using whatever energy he had to bit by bit extinguish his life. New widow or not, I wanted to smack her hard in the face. You just didn't sit by and watch him commit suicide, you went shopping for the poison. I hope you choose to get serious psychological help before you choose to "love" anyone else again.

Oh, such fun -- yet more Phil-bashing in the Washington Post TV column! Here's the link.

"Dr. Phil ought to have his head examined for calling a child a serial-killer-in-the-making on prime-time television last week, the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill said yesterday.

"CBS, the network that aired the special, may have put children's lives at risk because of Dr. Phil's bum advice, the group said in a letter fired off to CBS chief Leslie Moonves."

SiameseCatLady


I feel the same way about this family and other new FUF(4?) - the family of stepchildren. They just don't seem to have the trainwreck qualities that FUF1&2 had/have. We need some cheatin' spouses and slutty daughters!

Gemmadoll, I'm so sad to hear that about that really fat guy. DP hasn't yet aired here today, but I'll be sure to see it. I'm no doc, but I can't imagine that suffocating while sleeping is a peaceful way to die...wouldn't you wake up and then be fully aware of what's happening until you pass out?

I'll preface this by saying, I could stand to lose a whole lotta weight myself and have had issues with weight, real or imagined, my whole life, so I'm definitely pro-fat people, but I am always more than a little bit amazed by these 700 or 800 lb. people that can't get out of their easy chair to pee, sleep, etc. I wonder how someone gets that far gone. I understand that probably at 700-800 lbs. they are considered disabled and can get some kind of welfare, but before they qualify as disabled how do they support themselves? I don't go to work, I don't get to eat and I certainly don't have anyone fetching me ho-hos and chip and dip. And we know that the man who passed away's girlfriend was his enabler, but what kind of friends did the 700 lb. woman have that would bring her that kind and quantity of food to keep her a prisoner in her chair?!

And the WLC, I think the thing that really bugs me is, if I or most overweight people lose weight, we might improve our health and feel better and we might look better in our clothes and be able to wear a smaller size, but we don't suddenly get a glamourous new dream career, we're still secretaries or bus drivers or work at Target, same as before we lost weight. We don't get better personalities - maybe a little more confidence - but in no way do we have anywhere near the total 360 in our lives that the WLC people did.

Thanks, for letting me rant.

Word to that SiameseCatLady! It always boggles my mind how someone gets that bad before they finally are forced to do something about it. 500, 600 pounds is not even in my realm of comprehension of what a person can weigh.

Also word about the careers. Good for them, but I wish they would all go away to that little place where famewhores go to die (career-wise). It also pissed me off that many of them got plastic surgery in the end, which DP always turns his nose up at. I realize that they probably had a lot of loose skin to fix, which is fine, but their comments didn't sound quite right. It made them seem really shallow after all that. Jim looked really odd in the face and Thomas looks the same. His song sucked but he has a nice voice.

I heard that crap ass Meredith Brooks "Shine" song in my local grocery store today and nearly puked all over the frozen food aisle. Bah!

That poor guy didnt have a chance hardly.
I'm confident he passed away peacefully. When you stop breathing in a deep sleep you quickly go into further unconsciousness. At that point without immediate emergency aid to VENT his airway for assisted breathing with oxygen....he's no longer suffering.


Here are some things to ponder:

The majority of his weight was water. With blood pressure/heart problems [he was probably suffering from congestive heart failure] the kidneys can easily start to fail and .....BOOM .... you can quickly gain 100 lbs in water retention within a period of DAYS. Serious osteoarthritus is also almost a given. Knee joint replacements are often needed, but not available until a person slims way down and stays slim. Also having severe arthritus puts a huge damper on traditional cardiovascular exercise such as walking, or even standing for a long time.


He would have been on SSI [Suplimental Security Income] a last resort Federal Disability allotment for sustaining your living envionment. I doubt he had any health insurance, so if he was taking medications he would have perhaps been on State assistance for that, if his state does that.

His body would have been craving alot of calories just to sustain that sort of weight. Easily over 4000 calories. I imagine food turns into almost heroin at that point. Constantly fighting cravings, begging/pleading with family/friends/loved ones to go and get this or that favorite food.

Eventually, the people around can't take seeing his agony any more and break down. Believe me, his girlfriend is going to be psychologically wounded for the rest of her life.

If you can get down to the 400s/better yet the 300s a person has a fighting chance to stay active, walk more ....get to doctors, dentists, or travel to an obesity specialist or hospital facility.

I was offerd today to go to the Dr.Shil...err Phil taping. Except that I'd have to miss class on that day which I can't afford to do. But I'm.so.tempted.to.go. I remember someone saying that they screen the audience members to see if they have any phsycological problems. Is this true? Any info anyone could pass along about the "screeing" that they do?

FINALLY... I managed to catch up on all the key Phil episodes that I hadn't had a chance to watch. Without further ado, my comments:

1) Robin Does Cher:

What was a scream about this is that y'all know that someone like Cher would never hang out with someone like Robin if Robin wasn't Mrs. Phil! Why? Because Cher sees the world, people, and issues using many different lenses and in many shades of gray and is accepting of difference. Unlike New Millenial Nazi Robin who is totally incapable of acceptance or non-judgemental thought. You know the real reason that Robin never wanted a daughter is because she's a controlling narcissistic bitch and any female offspring of Phil's would have gone all Wynonna Judd on her ass and kicked her into next week. As someone else observed, Robin had to (OF COURSE) gravely point out the "direct link" between education, a career, independent thought, and emotionally damaged children. This episode was pathetic and a sexist cheap shot but then Robin has already sold out her entire gender anyway (As have the rest of Phil's hardcore Phemale Phan-Base!) so why should we be surprised?

2) The McGraws Do The Bushes:

I simply could not stop laughing. First of all, the lighting was practically blindingly bright so it made everyone look totally ridiculous... as if they had "crossed over" with John Edward! How sweet that George and Laura neglected to mention their own hard drinkin' ways of the past or how Laura (back in her teens) was allegedly involved in a DUI crash that cost the other driver their life. I don't actually blame Jenna for sticking out her tongue at the Papparazzi. What's really scary is how the Tequila Twins are trying to promote their parent's warped retro 1950's agenda and out-of-date conservative values despite years of hard-boozin'. I do feel bad for those girls, for being forced into the spot light and to come from that family which is swiftly becoming synonymous with Ignorant Stupid Narcissistic Americans Who Have No Clue What They Are Doing. The Bushes were pretty stupid to do this interview, it makes them look more out of it then ever. Meanwhile, John and Theresa, will wipe the floor with their saavy and intelligence no matter how desperately Phil tries to work those Avid Controls and Robin is going to look stupid too. Intelligence, experience, and competence always shine through.

3) FUF3, FUF4, and FUF5:

Very interesting. That blended Family Nightmare was just the worst. 7 kids, 2 parents "livin in sin", and 1 Mobile Home (Trailer) to house them in. This is like White Trash Opera. I must say, Phil & Co. have been pretty resourceful at scrounging up some wholesome white trash families this year. My first thought was:

"OK Phil, to start with, y'all need to put them in a 9 room house, and get their asses into therapy."

4) Robin Does The Studio:

Robin is a superhero, and her power is to "tastefully" fill up any room she comes across with vast quantities of color coordinated and pseudo-elegant yet contemporary shit. Was her renovation of the Men's Bathroom a scream or what? Robin's selections aren't what bothers me, what does bother me is her near militaristic approach to it and compulsive need to do it.

5) Elgin:

I have to say I am SOOOO loving this series within a series. I don't agree with all of Phil's methods or conclusions. But, he is doing a VERY good job of putting the spotlight on some serious social issues and, despite his conservative stance and many failings, at least he doesn't shy away from facing-down the retardation and wishful thinkin' of the Abstinence Only Freaks who have yet to join the rest of us in the 21st Century in what should be an age of science and reason. Phil's waaay too conservative, domineering, and abusive, but, at least he basically gets it when it comes to community breakdown and that's a darn sight more then some of the other conservative white males out there. Kudos to the show for demonstrasting what REALLY happens to 15 year olds who babies. Parenting - School - Parenting - Work - Parenting... in that endless order and without relief. Alexandra, in constrast is practically waited-upon Teen Mother Royalty.

Theredqueen, from what I've read, you can't go to a taping unless you sign an agreement (or maybe they just ask you) that you haven't been treated by a psychiatrist.

From the recap:


As a UNT alumni, let me say: heeeee. The university used to be called North Texas University, and the radio station is still called KNTU. And there was a comic strip in the college paper about it, which I didn't get, because I was really naive. Heh.

I never watch Dr. Phil during the week. I only saw a bit of the special. But Jacob's recap? Awesome.

I admire the recappers who can actually get through the things that would have me throwing things through the TV after 5 seconds.


Hee!

My fav personality test on the Quick Poll is the MMPI (Minnesota blah blah) A friend of mine wrote software to administer the test (on an Apple ][, ages ago) and I took it just to test the software. The shrink who was buying the software was impressed that my 16-yo self was so "non-neurotic" - it's multiple choice, the sane answer is right there in front of you, all you have to do is recognize it.


Whoa. Is there such a thing as psychiatric Munchausen's by Proxy? Not that the kid isn't nuts, but Mom sure seems to thrive on the attention.


Both, actually - well, the cartoon part was only in the movie, but they were both based on a short story: "It's a Good Life" by Jerome Bixby. Being sent "into the cornfield" was in the story and TV versions.

Oh Jacob, Jacob, Jacob. To watch all of Dr. Phil's special is one thing. To write a 25 page recap of it? I'm stunned. You must have a cast-iron stomach and typing fingers to match. Too bad we can't send this recap to Dr. McGraw...or can we?

Yay! My school, Midwestern State, got mentioned in a recap.

I haven't seen any of DP's shows since my FOX affiliate moved JJ to 3pm. I had to choose between FUFamilies and FULitigants. I went with the FULs.

I'm still amazed at the mom who allowed her child to watch 9 hours of TV a day because she "got so much done" while he was zombied out. I just don't understand why someone would have a kid but not want to do anything with them. What's the point?

The Tubey Eye Vomit Award goes to.....
Jacob

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Speech! Speech! (never mind)

I must have missed something. What is Jacob's recap? Where is it??

That one took me a second, but when I remembered what it was from, I laughed aloud. Jacob, you RULE. Excellent recap.

I was bummed. The other day BigButtJay was on and I've never seen him before, and I was looking forward to seeing how big his butt was becuase of what you guys have all said. But alas, he had a jacket on. Is it really THAT big??

Parsleysage ,it is unlike any butt you've ever seen before. A tragic, attention-grabbing,NY Post headline, Courtney Love kind of a butt.

Now, I'm sorry to sound melodramatic, but this whole Elgin thing is giving me the heebie jeebie skeevies. Well-dressed man comes to town with a book, says he'll shut down your sausage emporiums and drag in (three) pieces of exercise equipment. Say we got trouble right here in Elgin City with a capital "T" that rhymes with "P" that stands for Phil--NOT pork.

Maybe instead he is a latter-day Aimee Semple MacPherson, wanting to rid Elgin of its sin and salami, its donut bars and its rib joints. Obviously, like the Christian missionaries who carried the first Bibles into deepest Africa, Elgin is pretty much shut off from the world, its citizens never having heard the gospel of aerobics and low fat eating and grains. Phil said,"There's nowhere to run and nowhere to hide [especially for the very obese] in Elgin." Wow. What a thigh slapper. This sort of insensitivity was only trumped when he said to a 17 year-old girl who commented that fries were "missing" from her school:"Oh, I can tell you where YOUR FRIES ARE." Isn't this the same type of thing Uncle Art said to many of us at family picnics when we were pudgey teens that helped lead to our eating disorders? Thanks, Phil.

Everything about this man is saying,"You aint BEGUN to see the power I'm goin' have." While he tries to turn small southern towns into satellite branches of Beverly Hills, the rest of us need to fortify our borders and sandbag our French bakeries. The sumgum is coming! You heard it here first.

I don't recall if Dr. Phil has mentioned this, but are y'all aware that Elgin is famous for sausage? Many Texas barbecue joints will specify "Elgin sausage" on their menus as proof that they're up there with the good 'uns.

I'm sure that the WLC will discuss the folly of eating sausage morning, noon and night, but those of us who partake sensibly will be plenty peeved if it goes away just because Dr. Phil feels that removing the temptation will solve the problem. Also, I certainly hope that Dr. Phil isn't planning to completely close down Elgin's number one industry--central Texas has been hit hard enough with job loss as it is without the good doctor wiping out an entire city's livelihood.

Now, if y'all will excuse me, I think I'll see if my husband wants to meet me for lunch at our favorite barbecue place...

MyraA


Scroll to the top of this page. click on Home You'll see all the recent recaps.

Yes, doG bless, Jacob, that was the funniest and most long-awaited recap I've ever read. Thank you!

BWAH! Hahahahaha! Dr. Phil was supposed to make us think, but I don't think he meant to make us think that!

Dr Phil has just reaffirmed my decision that I am never having children. As if giving birth wasn't bad enough you're stuck with this kid that can just turn into a demon. And God forbid I turn into my mother. So it's best just to avoid having to deal with Dr Phil altogether and just not have kids. Thank you, Dr Phil, for showing that my original assessment was the right one.

I noticed someone was asking about screening the audience members. Actually, if the guests are currently seeing any therapists when being considered for the show, Dr.Phil speaks to therapists to make sure it is okay for the patient to appear.

To be an audience member, the only requirement is being 18 or older or 16, depending on the topic.

I remember hearing around the time the show premiered, from someone who was working there, that audience members had to be attractive to get in.

Jacob - that was a great recap for many reasons. To see any of those reasons, you'll have to BUY MY BOOK.

Considering some of the audience members they show now, I think that no longer holds. This is not the "beautiful people" audience you see on some LA-based shows (check out the "Last Comic Standing" audience, they all look like hip 25-year-old models hired for the occasion). I'll bet the only current rule, appearance-wise, is that no one can be thinner than Kitty Surprise, or have tighter facial skin.

What a nauseating show today!

Just when I thought Dr. Phil might actually be rounding a corner toward some socially responsibile programming I realize that I thought too much too soon. No, he has to go and (once again) role out the goddamn Former Fattie Force to begin laying siege to all those American's who in their 8-12 hour days simply don't have the time to work out for hours at a time, eat prepared healthy foods, or turn the daily maintainance of their lives over to paid support staff.

Yes, in some ways, we can all eat a lot healthier (less carbs, fat, salt, sugar) and become a bit more active and a bit healthier. To a point, there's no cure for the demands of Modern Life other than Independent Wealth.

However, the level of fitness that Phil & Co. demand is pretty intensive and most average people don't have the time, the resources, or the energy to do it and many of those people who do succeed in losing the weight are DEFINITELY going to require plastic surgery to nip and tuck them.

What pisses me off is that basically Phil & Co are telling people that if they aren't in the kind of shape the species was in when we were an agrarian and/or hunter gatherer one then they might as well just kill themselves because no one will want them.

How about we try working on this sick male fantasy that all women should like Kate Moss both before and after they give birth?

Newsflash to Phil, most people who look that way are either naturally slender or live, work, and play their entire lives in order to look that way.

Dr. Al - ICAM. Just when we thought the terror of the WLC was over and we wouldn't have to hear Shill shill that book again, he's now starting a fat jihad on Elgin - and he's sending out his Minions, Jim and Thomas, to whip the town into shape, so we have to see them again.

Did anyone else catch when the Minions were going through the cookbook with the restaurant owners so they can add some Shill-approved selections to the menu and they saw the title Banana Cream Pie and said that that was something they could put on their menu?! Wonder what they said after actually reading the FauxNanner Cream Pie Recipe?! Somehow I doubt that the Shill Specials will be the hottest thing on the menu. I just hope that Elgin has a Big Lots or Dollar Store so that they can buy lots of Shill's Bars and Shakes to help them.

Isn't Elgin a lucky, lucky town now that Shill is going to make them Stepford perfect in every single way!

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Just wanted to add my love to the great recap done by Jacob. I had one question about something he mentioned in it:



What the heck does Tobey (allegedly) like having done? If anyone knows I would love to hear that. If it is too gross feel free to spoiler it. If this question is considered off-topic then I will edit it, I just figured since it was metnioned in the Dr. Phil recap this would be the place to ask.

Regarding the WLC in Elgin: There does not seem to be a lot of more upscale restaurants there, just BBQs and fast food. Did anyone notice any salads on the menus?

Yes, healthy food might be more expensive in the short term, but think about how much it is going to cost to treat diseases associated with being overweight, such as diabetes, heart and cholesterol problems, high blood pressure, and cancer. These are all conditions which will lead to medications,multiple surgeries, chemo, radiation.

I think that if you are prone to weight gain, you need to realize this early on and accept your body type and metabolism. MargeLarge needs to realize that she cannot eat fattening food as frequently as SkinnyMinny and simply burn it off by walking for a few minutes. Hopefully, Dr.Phil will be teaching them this.

Full Disclosure: No, I've never had a weight problem. I'm SkinnyMinny. However, instead of the weight, I got the weak enamels, meaning I have to be careful and brush/floss really well. I guess I've got "the other issue" with sweets, at least.

Boy this Elgin town is sure helping Dr Shill. Today's weight loss episode was a marketing blitz for Shill. It was a great opportunity to promote his 4 weight loss books. He promoted his book "The Ultimate Weight Solution", Jim and Thomas promoted his "Ultimate Cookbook" and his son Jay promoted his book "The Ultimate Weight Solution for Teens". The last guest had a copy of his "Weight Loss Food Guide" on her kitchen table. His books sales must by skyrocketing thanks to Elgin.