Drummouse
Sep 10, 2004 @ 7:22 pm
Anyone else find today's episode with the return of fighting familys nauseating??
Sorry, but that first couple was a pain in the neck the first time and certainly didn't warrant a return visit. I gotta tell ya, I'm SO SICK of DrP dragging out these selfish, immature, need-to-be-right-at-all-costs, obnoxious couples!! They all have kids that are being damaged psychologically (ie: the second family of fighting mom & kids).
These couples all last season, and we all know we've had MORE than our share, are way past the point of 2-bit, daytime tv help. They need intense family therapy if they really want to salvage anything. Otherwise, DrP continually putting these freakshows out for display is beyond disturbing... and not constructive.
I've definitely had my fill of bitter, hateful couples who bicker back and forth and insist on sharing every detail of something stupid the other did in hopes of proving their point and getting us all on their side. Sorry, but I just don't care.
I'll watch the political campaigning to get that sick fix.
DR. AL
Sep 11, 2004 @ 9:51 am
Has everyone seen next week's preview e-mail yet?
FUF1 and FUF2 are back!
I'm looking forward to seeing Phil's town-sized intervention.
I'm surprised they even bother to trot Robin out since her message is always the same one and, according to Robin and Phil, the secret to a successful home is basically:
0) God must exist and must be worshipped: it must be a Patriarchal Christian God, because all other beliefs systems and religions are just plain wrong.
1) The husband (No matter how incompetent he may be!) has the right to lead his family (Even into the ground!) and demand respect and is the Master/Overlord and the wife and kids are his slaves.
2) There is rigid adherence to "Traditional" Gender Roles (Note: They only became "Traditional" after the Industrial and Agricultural Revolutions, before that, it was basically like what we have now.)
3) The wife keeps worshipful -- or the wife keeps quiet -- and follows her man around with her hand on his shoulder.
4) The wife puts out regularly, even in the absence of consideration, communication, kindness, or empathy and even when the husband is an abusive sexist pig and fascist.
5) The wife cooks, cleans, shops, and then she shops some more in between hedonistic beauty treatments.
6) The wife is not educated.
7) The wife does not work.
8) The wife does not have her own money, nor any skills, tools, or resources that could lead to the rise of female independence or power.
Moving along...
Squirrely, I think you are trying break a very complex issue (Infidelity) down into black and white when it's picture that has thousands of colors and reasons.
Besides, if you're in a miserable marriage where there is no love, affection, or commitment, exactly what is it that you're cheating on since the marriage is basically dead anyway?
As for God, well, if you really and truly think that there's a pissed-off old guy looking down from the clouds and passing judgement on his/hers/its cheatin' children then your fate is already sealed.
Stardancer2001
Sep 11, 2004 @ 11:28 am
My husband took the same vow and he meant it because he knows that if he doesn't foresake all others, death will do us part because I will kill him quicker than he can spit!
A-Men.
I can't wait until next week!
squirrleyQ
Sep 11, 2004 @ 11:32 am
I guess that is my downfall Dr. because I do see everything in black and white. There is no gray or in between area for me. There is right and there is wrong. When you take an oath or vow and cheat that is wrong and in my opinion(I will word it that way because I know others feel differently and I am not saying my way is the do all be all), but in my opinion that makes a weak person.
I took the vow till death do us part and I will do everything in my power to keep it that way but I am not saying I condemn divorce either. My parents divorced when I was five and I am grateful for that. My biological father beat my mother in front of me, he kept women on the side and even at five I knew my mother and I deserved better than that. Maybe that is why I hate cheaters so much now who knows.
I think if you are in a marriage that has become loveless(which I don't fully understand anyway, I mean how do you just wake up one day and think "I don't love you anymore" unless there is something else going on) or one that is abusive then get out and then find someone else but don't do it before you are out of that marriage. If the marriage is dead, get the death certificate, i.e. divorce papers.
I won't get into the religion debate because I know some people will not feel the same as I do or believe the same things I do. I will say that yes, I do believe there is a God spiritually and yes I will have a judgement day. Maybe my fate is sealed but that's okay because it's just how I believe. Others don't and I respect that but I feel like if you want to have the big church wedding and have a minister marry you then you are taking the vow before God. Having a church wedding shouldn't be a fashion statement. If you just want to be legally married go to the courthouse.
oreo8704
Sep 11, 2004 @ 12:03 pm
when passion fades should we just steel ourselves for a lifetime of sexual boredom and mediocrity, content that we are with a good mate, should we have occassional adventures to keep the juices flowing, or should we find a new mate everytime we get bored?
That's a good question. Although I would disagree with your assumption that fidelity means a lifetime of sexual boredom and mediocrity. It is possible to have a satisfactory or great sex life while staying faithful to a spouse. Of course there will be periods of boredom but there can also be good periods. However I have nothing against open marriages. And If someone wants to have the occasional one night stand and their partner is okay with it then I think that's fine. I agree that it is preferrable to serial monogamy. My opinion is that completely monogamous marriages aren't for everyone but neither are open marriages. You have to pick what is best for you and your marriage.
I don't watch Dr. Phil often but from what everyone has said he seems to be a little simplistic when it comes to marriage and family.
What is this town sized intervention someone mentioned? It sounds interesting.
Glark
Sep 11, 2004 @ 3:22 pm
Topic topic topic please.
pinhead
Sep 11, 2004 @ 5:51 pm
the big asspony
Hee!!
This is my new catchphrase. It will henceforce be directed at all who defy me.
This "I'm gonna save the whole town" publicity whoring makes me pukey. Not sure if it's the man himself and his pompassity, or the idea that he has ENTIRE towns of fans.
Now THAT is something to be scared of. (pardon me while my participle dangles.)
MyraA
Sep 12, 2004 @ 5:57 am
Glark, what do you mean by [Topic topic topic please]. Huh???
SnowDog
Sep 12, 2004 @ 9:47 am
He means we should stay on topic or we'll get a smackdown.
Gemmadoll
Sep 13, 2004 @ 4:56 pm
I don't understand who the new Phil is supposed to be. Shows where he (wearing monochromatic outfits--I smell a line of Dr Phil Casuals by Wal-Mart; let's watch this closely) does pep rallies and shows where he follows not-so-FU'd-families (like the pud pullin guy--dime a dozen) and shows where he--what now?--interviews celebrities on the cusp of a big project a la Cher and her Artificial Hip Replacement Tour? Isn't this Regis territory?
Jolly good he chose to go one-on-one with Cher, though. Her life has been so secret, so impregnable, rather like Jackie O. What a coup, getting her to open up about herself.(Damn. Rolled my eyes so hard I strained a sinus.)
Corbinxxa84
Sep 13, 2004 @ 5:28 pm
Is that town's name supposed to be pronounced "El-gun" and not "El-gin?" I sure as hell hope so because Dr. Phil needs to be heckled for such a fuck up. I'm also interested in knowing if anyone in the town wasn't totally gung ho about Phil heaving his fat ass into the middle of town and giving a lecture on how to behave the right way.
Drummouse
Sep 13, 2004 @ 5:28 pm
WOO-HOO!! More FUC's!! (F*cked-Up Couples)
I can't wait for the weekly installments of DrP trying to work his magic on folks that to say have already gone over the edge would be an understatement. LOVED the little guy sassing off to the big Dr at the end (our teaser for the next time!!).
Look's like we've got an action-packed season ahead!!
katymo
Sep 13, 2004 @ 6:21 pm
Heh. The local media is all over this DP Elgin thing (in TX it's pronounced El-gen, as opposed to IL where it's El-gin, Phil is right this one time), the local news was there and they were pushing it pretty hard on the six o'clock news. I also wondered if there was this one section of town where they just don't give a damn that Phil's there. I'm betting there is.
This crap amused me to no end, this one family is just as fucked up as the other ones, and now I'm close enough to one of them to go slap em up side their heads! I can't believe she admitted marrying that fuckwad just to pop out the babies. That's pretty bad, though not nearly as bad as physically pushing down abusing your pregnant wife. I loved the guy sassing Phil at the end too! It made him look 10 times dumber.
I don't like Robin even when she's quiet! I wanted to barf when he said even Robin is here, as if its this great bonus treat. Blech!
stinkylulu
Sep 14, 2004 @ 12:04 am
Wow. The resonance of PatriarchPhil just got all the more profound now that His Holiest PP has -- his word -- "adopted" a whole town. They say Mia Farrow's out of control? And at least Kim Basinger & Roseanne were kind enough to buy their towns...
DR. AL
Sep 14, 2004 @ 5:02 am
WOO-HOO!! More FUC's!! (F*cked-Up Couples)
FUC's? Brilliant! Absolutely BRILLIANT!
Tee Hee!
I still need to watch the episode before I can comment.
El DeMarge
Sep 14, 2004 @ 11:34 am
I turned on Dr. Phil today to see that it's now the Tony Danza Show. :p Something is wrong with my programming over here.
Gemmadoll
Sep 14, 2004 @ 4:29 pm
No, that was Robin. Put a little vaseline on your screen. She had a hellacious summer.
katymo
Sep 14, 2004 @ 4:33 pm
Hee! Kitty Surprise looked different on today's show, I think her face looks chubbier. Don't tell me she actually put sugar in her body! Say it ain't so!
How many freaking times is DP going to tell the "Jay sasses Kitty Surprise" story? It's a neat story--once! That's at least the 3rd time he's told it.
I admit it, big butted Jay and scarcely seen Jordan are pretty funny. I liked that segment and as much as I snark on Phil, he seems to have raised some good kids. It doesn't hurt that they're rich, but still.
Elrhino
Sep 14, 2004 @ 5:37 pm
Did anyone else get seriously creeped out in the "Shithole, USA" episode when Dr. Phil came out on stage with all the children gathered around him?
Seriously, his messiah complex is out of control. He's like a cult leader now.
I can only hope his cult and Oprah's cult fight to the death on some neutral battleground like a deleted Braveheart scene filmed in the Midwest.
ReplaceMan
Sep 14, 2004 @ 6:41 pm
Ok, I love that Dr. Phil is fucking Jim Jones, don't get me wrong. If he were all humble and shit, I couldn't watch. Nonetheless, his blatant masturbation today was outrageous -- the juxtaposition of, "Ok -- you suck, your parenting sucks, and your kids suck" with his lovely wife and awesomely funny sons...just too much!!
The man is brutal.
SiameseCatLady
Sep 14, 2004 @ 7:27 pm
Did anyone else get seriously creeped out in the "Shithole, USA" episode when Dr. Phil came out on stage with all the children gathered around him?
Seriously, his messiah complex is out of control. He's like a cult leader now.
Hope all the parents instructed their young 'uns not to drink the Kool-Aid.
BBJ and SSJ were actually cute little kids - what happened?! Oh, Shill happened. But, much as I rank on his ass and much as I hate his patriarchal daddy take charge of your family tirades, Shill was right when he told the parents of the two boys and girl that sleeps in her mom's bed that they needed to be parents, not their kids' best friends.
parsleysage
Sep 15, 2004 @ 8:13 am
I can only hope his cult and Oprah's cult fight to the death on some neutral battleground like a deleted Braveheart scene filmed in the Midwest
FUNNY STUFF,
Elrhino!! I wonder if Oprah ever wonders what demon she set loose upon the 4 corners of the earth when she introduced Dr Shill to the American public??
talkstoomuch
Sep 16, 2004 @ 2:30 am
Wow, Wednesday's show on custody battles was heartwrenching! I felt so sorry for the kids who have these fucked up parents wrangling over them like property instead of people. In each situation it was like King Solomon and the 2 mothers. It was so clear to me which parent really loved the kid(s) and which parent really loved themselves more.
Don't even get me started on that famewhore/serial liar/demented wench Bridget Marks. If I had been in that audience and gotten her book under my chair, I would have beaned her with it on my way out. Psychotic bitch.
percolata
Sep 16, 2004 @ 7:11 am
Don't even get me started on that famewhore/serial liar/demented wench Bridget Marks.
Thank you! I was amazed that Phil seemed to be taking her side in the face of the clear evidence of that "hand over custody" tape. We have no way of knowing for sure what the girl's father is like but we all saw Bridget indulge in a gigantic famewhore drama queen act of hysteria, in spite of the fact that it was terrifying and traumatizing those poor little girls. If a woman would do that for the cameras, just when her children needed quiet reassurance and comfort, it's not a big stretch to believe she would coach them to lie about their father.
I hadn't heard of her until the show so I looked up some of the articles about her on the net. Unlike the poor brokenhearted "actress and novelist" Phil presented, I found a very different picture of a Playboy Playmate, soft-porn actress who had carried on a four year affair with a married business man. She didn't decide to deny him access to his children until after he refused, once and for all, to leave his wife for her.
I had the impression that Phil chose to take the woman's side after the man refused to have anything to do with the show. The father has custody. He has nothing to gain and a lot to lose by going on TV and turning his life into a Jerry Springer show. But Phil can't stand it when people won't open their lives to the Healing Master.
parsleysage
Sep 16, 2004 @ 7:30 am
Don't even get me started on that famewhore/serial liar/demented wench Bridget Marks.
Thank you
percolata and
talkstoomuch. I was wondering what others out there thought of the Bridget Marks situation. I saw that scene on Tv about 6 months ago, and at that time my radar went off about her, but I wasn't sure. I mean, I would be hysterical if my kids were wrongfully taken from me too. I don't know, something about her isn't quite right. And her Mom is an overly-lifted psycho Ann Miller lookalike. I guess its when she was crying already when Shill hadn't gotten out 2 sentences. And she's in this turmoil, but she just happened to be able to write a book about romance on 9-11. Famewhore, gimme a break. What do you all think?
Mom/grandmom thing--let the grandmom have him already (although she is a bit of a harpy) And Dad--SHUT THE F___ UP about "well woman can spread their legs and that doesn't make them a mother." Well sir, any guy can lower his shorts and that doesn't him a father either. You've proved that, asswipe.
hoyaloya
Sep 16, 2004 @ 8:23 am
Yeah, the Dad in that Grandmom/Mom battle was ridiculous. He still didn't answer why HE doesn't have custody. All he could say was " I only live 5 miles away and see him 3 or 4 times a week." What's up with that?
katymo
Sep 16, 2004 @ 9:35 am
Word to all of you about Bridget Marks! That woman is a nutcase and DP really disappointed me by not holding her more accountable for making this as traumatic as possible for those girls. Maybe he just didn't want to seem to play favorites or something, but he didn't even get mad. I remember vaguely seeing something about this when it happened too and it shocked the hell out of me that someone would act like that in front of their children, traumatic situation or not. Those poor kids are going to be basket cases.
I thought the same thing about the dad in the grandma situation. If he's 5 miles aways why doesn't the kid live with him? I kept waiting for him to admit to a heavy drug problem or something, but he never went there, oddly enough. What a dick.
In fact, all the people on today's show deserve a good frying pan to the face, they should all be very ashamed. Except for mayyyyybe the grandma, her intentions seem to be good and she seems truly distraught over everything. Bicking on the DP is automatically points off though.
Celina
Sep 16, 2004 @ 9:58 am
I can only hope his cult and Oprah's cult fight to the death on some neutral battleground like a deleted Braveheart scene filmed in the Midwest.
BWAH and amen to that. Except ... it could mean a mooning from BBJ and I'm not sure the Oprah forces could withstand that.
Toasty
Sep 16, 2004 @ 10:14 am
I... I think I finally understand! Once I was blind, but now I see. Dr. Phil is... He's Jesus!
lmwilker
Sep 16, 2004 @ 1:24 pm
I didn't see how Phil was so sure the Mom was going to get custody away from the Grandma. The kid is twelve and will have a say before the Court about who he prefers to live with and the fact that he has lived his whole life with the Grandmother will also be taken into consideration when it comes to stability and disrupting his life. The Mom should suck it up, admit to her own faults and bad choices and try to build a relationship with her son before it's too late.
Also, the Marks woman is a raving looney. Weird to see Shrill so sympathetic toward her.
talkstoomuch
Sep 16, 2004 @ 1:40 pm
I was feeling sorry for Bridget Marks until I saw her on 20/20 or Primetime Live or some shitty ass soap-news show.
First of all, it came out in the show that she was fine with her babydaddy and the situation of being his kept mistress for a year (or two) before the twins were born and then for 3 years after. She kept harping on him leaving his wife. He kept refusing. She kept fucking him. Finally, she called and told the wife about the twins. But the wife stayed and babydaddy still didn't leave her. Suddenly, Bridget and her mom started coming up with all these incidents of sexual abuse.
The mom claims she saw babydaddy French kissing one of the twins. Did she call the police? Children Services? Kill him? Maim him? Smack him? Yell at him? Refuse to let him see the girls? Nah. She told a lawyer about it. Six months later. Bridget's own psychiatrist only said there was a 60% chance that some "inappropriate touching" may have occured. She also listed her reservations about the language the twins used and the rote way they repeated the same stories.
The worst part of the show to me was that the cameras were with Bridget for 6 hours before she had to turn the twins over. The twins were just playing and talking. One of them even seemed excited. Bridget kept grabbing them and wailing in their faces about how sad she was. And weren't they sad? And ohmigod this is so hard. She would keep doing that until one or both girls imitated her wailing. If you look closely at the footage, one girl is not crying at all. Just matching wails from time to time. The other one was more sensistive and finally started crying because her mother would not let up.
Sorry this post is so long. But that whole escapade made me so sad for those babies. And gave me a slow burning hate for the narcissistic famewhore whose uterus they were so unfortunate to have grown in.
Esser
Sep 16, 2004 @ 2:00 pm
Well, on the upside, the FUFs are back today! And the website isn't giving anything away. My prediction has been that both Alexandra and Stacy are pregnant again, but I'm probably wrong. Regardless, they're all probably still fucked up. But I'm sure Phil will tie it in with all the other cross-promotions (flash the book on the screen....NOW!) and that'll be the point of today's show.
dcalley
Sep 16, 2004 @ 3:41 pm
Someone please summarize FUF#1 (Marty and Erin) because I missed the first half of the episode. Thanks!
gatopreto
Sep 16, 2004 @ 4:50 pm
I only caught a few minutes here and there, but...Stacy is going to be a therapist?!
Oy vey.
SiameseCatLady
Sep 16, 2004 @ 6:23 pm
This really bugs me and I just have to get it off my chest. Someone under 18 can't even buy a pack of smokes. Someone under 18 can't buy, a car without an adult co-signer. Someone under 18 can't buy a beer. Heck, someone under 17 can't go to an R-rated movie with a parent or guardian. But a 15 year old who is unlucky enough or dumb enough to wind up pregnant has sole say-so on what happens to that baby. Does anyone else think it's more than a little fucked up that a teenager is the sole decision maker for what's going to happen to another human being? I've said it before and I'll say it again, Alex should have either had an abortion or given that baby up for adoption.
Gemmadoll
Sep 16, 2004 @ 6:39 pm
Katherine still wants to be tough, which suits her. At least when she's involved in fisticuffs she's not penning sad-clown-eyed letters about being "put up for adoption." Alexandra looked very pretty, which means more and more boys will be snorting and pawing the ground around her. Egads, then.
Erin looked pretty too, but what good are looks when you've thrown your life away on a fucksicle like The Mart. Ick.
Stacy is full of those lactating hormones which quell the bitch surf and allow her family to wade safely. She named her baby after Camryn Manheim, or maybe Camryn the toll-taker on the 7-4 expressway. She didn't specify. Footage of Brianna not trying to toss the baby out of a window for not being Bohdin; footage that shows said Bohdin was adopted by seemingly loving, normal people who will probably move and not leave a forwarding address for Her Skankess. More stuff happened, but I had to sign for a package and drifted away right after.
Oh, yeah, more FUF families are hoving over the horizon and Phil is having the couples pose back-to-back to indicate disharmony. (Hey, if it aint broke! How many ideas you think Phil has? Nine?Ten?)
All in all, we will not be disappointed now that Phil has Come Again.
loudfan
Sep 16, 2004 @ 7:47 pm
I only caught a few minutes here and there, but...Stacy is going to be a therapist?!
This came up last season... I believe she has already worked as a therapist in the past, but of course had to stop because, y'know,
religious reasons and all. She mentioned going back to work as an adoption counselor, which seems like a good career for her, actually.
To the person who missed the FUF1 portion of the show: it sounds like Alexandra is totally being coddled by Marty & Erin. She had threatened to move out, but realized that living at home is a pretty sweet deal -- all the free babysitting she wants (Mom takes Nathan in the morning so Alex can get an extra 45 minutes of sleep!); use of the car; Erin does her laundry (!); etc. Oh yeah, and her prom is coming up and she wants to date again.
Oh, yeah, more FUF families are hoving over the horizon and Phil is having the couples pose back-to-back to indicate disharmony.
I noticed that too,
Gemmadoll. I observed that the shots of Stacy & Chris in the b-roll footage now have them facing one another to indicate that all is sunshine & lollipops in their world.
How long is poor Michael going to have to live at Daisy Hill Puppy Farm, uh, I mean Happy Hill Acres or whatever? He had to stay there all summer? It seems like it would be hard to go back to normal family life after spending that much time in such an institutional setting. Or maybe they'll just keep him there until it's time to go to college, since Phil seems happy to keep shelling out the big bucks for his care.
katymo
Sep 16, 2004 @ 8:34 pm
She named her baby after Camryn Manheim, or maybe Camryn the toll-taker on the 7-4 expressway.
HEE! Funniest and truest thing I've read all day long.
I love how both families were all lovey dovey like everything's grand from now on and suddenly everything's fixed. No doubt a result of editing and payment from the DP show. No way they're normal suddenly now. I hate these two families.
Drummouse
Sep 16, 2004 @ 8:35 pm
How long is poor Michael going to have to live at Daisy Hill Puppy Farm
TOO. FUNNY!
I saw only the first half. I figured there wouldn't be any groundbreaking revelations. I don't know, I guess I've pretty much gotten the jist of these folks. God bless them and have nice lives!
Anyone else catch the infamous scene with Erin, Alex, and Catherine after Marty confesses?? LOL!! I KNEW they would have to bring that classic back just one more time.
Oh and let us not forget.... when it's a disgruntled couple, it's the back to back shots out in the yard. When it's an entire family, we line them up ala execution style. And who doesn't love the faux phone calls in the re-enactments?!
DR. AL
Sep 16, 2004 @ 9:43 pm
What a week it has been! Patriarch Phil's return was so dramatic and over the top...
1) THE FUF's RETURN! Alex, Marty, and Erin all look really good, meanwhile, Katherine now looks like some burnt out hooker. She's still dangerous because she's a stupid person with delusions of smartness. The Faux Mormon clan seemed to be doing well also. BTW, Stacy did train to be a therapist, she just didn't get her license yet. Thank goodness that Psycho-Son is still locked up at the Fucktard Hill School for Gifted Sociopaths. Brianna and Katherine as penpals... NOOOO! I think the thing I hated most was Phil taking one opportunity after another to display his "brillance" and have them worshipfully look up and tell him how it happened just as promised in The Book of Phil.
2) Mortal Kustody Kombat was also rather interesting. They all sucked and where too selfish. Enough said.
3) The Elgin Experiment should actually be good to watch as the town is fairly well representing (microscopically) a multi-class, ethnically diverse, and problem-laden culture. I'm not sure the slavish devotion to Phil was so good though. The abusive couple were so fucked up! It's like he trained with Ike Turner and she trained at Lifetime TV during women in peril week.
Has anyone else noticed how these problem families are always dumb-shit religious types from the South who want someone else to do the thinkin' for them?
masked_spangler
Sep 17, 2004 @ 1:14 am
Katherine and Brianne have also been apparently corresponding via email and they know have the same hair and are little clones of each other. there has a hilarious "backstage after the show" clip as the credits rolled that had them embracing backstage all 'oh my god! oh my god!' Heh. As for the big dramatic revelations: Katherine dyed her hair neon colours numerous times over the summer. Erin almost left Marty, but didn't. marty wrote a cheque to a contractor without telling Erin and she resolved to lock up her cheque book where he can't find it. Erin said she came onthe show for Dr. Phil to fix her family but realized after the year of baring her soul on tv that perhaps her being an ice maiden bitch could have been contributing to the situation too. Alexandra tried to be stupid and move out, but vetoed that idea when her parents told her that if she leaves, Nathan goes with her but the car does not. Alexandra discovered that she has more freedom when she acts in a trustworthy way, and by freedom she means she can sit on her butt all day and watch tv because there are plenty of people to watch Nathan. And everybody thanked Dr. Phil for the scuba diving trip but nobody thanked him for Katherine's room.
FUF2: Stacy gave birth to Baby Camryn (gag. These people have horrible child-naming skills) and is working as an adoption counsellor. Brianne was going to hate the baby but when the baby was born she realized that the baby was an innocent (aka cute) and did not hate her. Chandler was in every camera shot but not spoken about at all. Chris believes he is an excellent stepfather. Brianne does not agree that he is a good parent figure to her but she does concede that he has been making an effort that they are amicable buddies now and that perhaps she needed to adjust her expectations for him (this was actually nicely handled on Shil's part. For the first time, he actually admitted that just because somebody has a fairy tale vision of how they want you to act toward them, it does not mean you are a horrible person if you are unable to comply). Stacy took Brianne to Bohdan's first birthday and Brianne was able to get closure on his adoption by realizing that he had a family and was not out there alone in the world lost and ignored. Nobody saw Michael but that is okay because we have institutions for that.
Preview for the new FUF: it's blended family time! Dr. Phil will educate us on why it is a bad idea to call your stepmom a skanky ho.
Princess Tanella
Sep 17, 2004 @ 1:41 am
I am officially done with Dr. Phil. It's been a long time coming, and you know how they say that the average smoker makes a serious attempt to quit, like, 5 times before they are successful? It's the same thing with Phil. But at last I am free.
I saw a couple minutes of the FUF show today. And in that time, I saw them talking about how Alex wanted to move out. Dr. Phil said "You were really gonna move out?", and Alex answered "I was never seriously going to move out, my mommy cooks me dinner!" Alex, you're a mommy now. Grow Up!
Also, they were explaining the rule of "If you move out, Nathan goes with you and the car stays here", and Marty said "More like Nathan stays and the car can go!" And then everyone laughed bacause that was so cute and clever. And I felt like I was living in an alternate reality. I didn't think it was cute at all.
And then I decided that my blood pressure couldn't take it and I changed the channel. For good.
DR. AL
Sep 17, 2004 @ 6:02 am
If ever there was a show that demonstrates the importance of looong courtships, personal and relational development, delayed childbearing, and educational, professional, and economic development, it's Dr. Phil.
I swear, half of these people are in trouble because they haven't developed marketable skills or economic power, they don't know themselves or eachother, they don't know how to be in a relationship, and they continue to pump out one puppy after another under squalid conditions. And then there's the fact that Phil and all the men expect to be worshipped without question and that all of these women aren't empowered and probably don't know how to spell it either.
I have such a Love/Hate relationship with this show.
Gemmadoll
Sep 17, 2004 @ 7:52 am
I have such a Love/Hate relationship with this show.
I think I'm trying to work out dynamics with a former boss who was mustachioed, bald, and thought his colon excreted Starlight Mints. This boss was an insufferable twit but I was-- for economic reasons-- cowed by him. Phil I can call every name I can think up and it feels...right.
Too true that "Tell It Like It Is Phil" of vintage Oprah show would have laid quite a smackdown on all concerned, especially the famewhore lost-my-custody-but-not-my-Prada bag-mom. I even think he would've told Brianna and Katherine to cut the crap and stop whining. Sometimes quityerbitchin IS the best a therapist can say.
The patriarchal stuff is going to become so cloying and sop dense that it will block out the sun. If you dissect every urp from Phil's lips as if every urp was from a Feminist Studies course, you will see how completely embedded Phil is in 1950's think. Sterling example is the time he jerked the car to a halt and twisted around to face the backseat and got two inches from a mouthy (but now wetting himself) Lil Butt Jay and roared that NO ONE talks to MY WIFE that way. Urp. What if the story had ROBIN confronting her son for disrespecting her? Wouldn't that send the clear message that women are to be respected or THEY will give you what-for, not their closest MALE RELATIVE. Damn Phil. Yank her chair out, open the door for her, but let HER teach her sons how women are to be treated. Shut up and drive, cockninny.
dcalley
Sep 17, 2004 @ 11:49 am
Gemmadoll, I totally agree. I was appalled that we were supposed to think getting in your son's face and threatening him was being a good father/good husband. Robin should have spoken up for herself. And ew, looking at the old pictures of their family made me sick. I can't stand her materialism. It's really really bad.
lindseywalker
Sep 17, 2004 @ 12:49 pm
Did anyone see the previews for the extreme makeovers? Those two guys that wanted to look like Brad Pitt? Please tell me they are coming on because they want to sue their plastic surgeon? My gawd the two of them are squicky! Their new teeth are soooo too big and fake and that skin?!?! Blecccchhhhh.
NoFatChicks
Sep 17, 2004 @ 12:56 pm
I watched the Dr Phil family updates yesterday and was excited to recognize some of the places from FUF1. The younger girl goes to my old middle school! I think the older one might be earning her G.E.D. from community college, even though Erin said "now that she's back in public school..."
I cannot wait to see the Schlep twins try to rationalize their choices and Dr. P give them the big fat lowdown - that they are freaky freaks and their parents are idiots. I'm sure he'll choose better words, but, hey, you know.
loudfan
Sep 17, 2004 @ 1:09 pm
I can't stand her materialism. It's really really bad.
Word. At first I was thinking, "Thank God I don't have kids -- I would HATE to have to spend every single holiday buying up every decoration Target has to offer so I could 'make memories' for my family!" But Jay & Jordan didn't exactly seem to be blown away by Robotoxin's eight million nutcrackers filling every available flat surface of their home, so perhaps they would have been happy with just a tree and a few holiday knick-knacks. Can you say
overkill?
Robin at Halloween: "I'm sorry, kids, you can't go out trick-or-treating -- candy is full of sugar, and that's bad for you! But you're in luck -- I just baked a delicious faux-nanner pie!"
I think I'm trying to work out dynamics with a former boss who was mustachioed, bald, and thought his colon excreted Starlight Mints. This boss was an insufferable twit but I was-- for economic reasons-- cowed by him. Phil I can call every name I can think up and it feels...right.
Gemmadoll, I hope it takes you many, many years to work out your ex-boss issues. Your posts in this forum are always hysterically funny.
JenD
Sep 17, 2004 @ 5:17 pm
lindseywalker Those two guys that wanted to look like Brad Pitt? Please tell me they are coming on because they want to sue their plastic surgeon? My gawd the two of them are squicky! Their new teeth are soooo too big and fake and that skin?!?! Blecccchhhhh.
They did that show
I want a famous face on MTV, and they were soooo much uglier before the surgery. Don't get me wrong...they're hideous now, but it used to be worse.
katymo
Sep 17, 2004 @ 6:42 pm
Those twins are freaking scary. Better than before, but definitely squicky.They really do look like Cojoe! My mom laughed forever at that one, it was so mean of DP, yet so true.
I lost interest in this topic, if people want to cut themselves up, more power to them. They pays their money, they takes their chances. It's not for me, I know that, so eh.