Oh, I've heard that too, but according to boss' wife, KS wanted to divorce due to infidelity, not labor pains.

And you're welcome for the link, folks. I can just see DP, Kitty, and BBJ sitting down for a big dinner of liver pate en masque.

But ... but... how can she want to divorce someone who did such a wonderful and selfless thing as having his vasectomy reversed without telling her because her overheard her say she wanted another baby?????

What if DP only heard part of her sentence?

DP: "I heard you wanted another baby, so I--"
KS: "I said I wanted another baby blue Corvette."
DP: ".............Dammit!"

Really. If Shill had trouble being loyal while he was a small time therapist with small time temptations, who thinks he's going to be able to keep it in his pants out there in the mecca of every ex-county fair Miss Potato Queen from across America? Kitty Surprise should know what the man himself says, "If he'll do it with you, he'll do it to you."

I think he probably already had an affair with JJ.

Business Week has an article about Dr. Phil this week -- "Getting Real and Getting Real Rich: Dr. Phil Inc. keeps growing, but the relentless self promoter has his critics". Despite that promising headline, the conclusion is that the lawsuit is but a bump in the road and the rich will just keep on getting richer.

I missed this somehow: when referring to his forthcoming parenting book it says "and in May he announced the CBS will air a prime-time special this fall timed to the book's release." (Of course, it just occurs to me that NBC is who carries Dr. Phil here...). Also, "his newlsetter is about to get a major marketing boost from its publisher", so all those cover shots y'all were envisioning may happen yet.

(see link below -- thanks LoudFan!)

Of course, what the online version lacks is the big ol' shot of Phil himself, the picture of the mugs with his mug on it (not the "what was I thinking" version") and two shots of his younger days.

edited to remove link that was apparantly a figment of my imagination

Sometimes I guess the best predictor of future behavior ISN'T past behavior, huh Phil? Suck on that cigar, Dr Freud, and tell us another one you skirt-chasing bounder.

Apparantly, this week's pixel challenge is designed for us:

I wasn't able to use fangums' link -- it took me to the mysterious "http.com" -- but I was able to find the article at Business Week, so here it is:
Dr. Phil Article

I would think that Dr. Phil is too smart to realize that if he did get caught cheating now, it would ruin his career. I mean, so much of his persona is "head of the perfect family," and having an affair made public would destroy that completely. However, if President Clinton couldn't learn his lesson, who knows? Maybe one of the tabloids will try to set up a sting, a la Frank Gifford...

Those Weight Watchers cards are HYSTERICAL!!
Comedy Gold, indeed!

Did someone somewhere seriously think anyone that sat thru this past season of DrP would dare sit thru a summer worth of repeats? ewwwww....
Just as well, I suppose because now I can get more done and enjoy the longer days.
Hopefully this show gets a kick in the booty over the summer and comes back to some form of "normalcy" next season.
But then again, where is Dollar Bill's reason to do that??

If you haven't seen it, be sure to check out Freshly Ground Coffee's entry in the TWoP PC #104: Dr. $hill
(Scroll down to the 4th post)

LMAO!!!

Amen to the shit that $hill has been shoveling out to us this past year! What a shyster of the worst kind. So nouveau riche tacky--like gold bathroom faucet handles. Embarrassing I imagine is how real rich people (like Oprah) feel about him and Kitty Surprise (love that name). At LA parties, it has to be like Thurston Howell III saying, "Like, move away slowly from the greedy hillbilly family, Lovie, dear."

Congrats PissyMissy! have been on Weight Watchers for 11 weeks and lost 15 lbs. The first thing that made me want to do WW was at the meeting a person who lost 86 lbs in a year, said that what keeps her going is being able to have treats sometimes. That it is her decision and she accepts it, enjoys the food, and continues to eat lesser calorie food. Losing weight gradually becomes more motivating than enjoying food or stuffing yourself to mask feelings. The more you lose, the more motivated you are also. It's like, Wow, it IS possible to lose weight.

My WW leader said the same thing about being realistic and having real food treats sometimes--bec we all get into the "poor me, I'm can't eat that cake-pie-lasagna-burrito-side of beef-etc." And then we binge. So go ahead and have a piece--and enjoy every single bite.

She says that esp. on holiday weekends, it's better to focus on maintaining rather than losing weight. Just get through the family gatherings, and food celebrations, with minimal damage. Try a taste of it all.

They don't talk about Dr.Shill at all. It's a very positive atmosphere and no one yells at you or forces you to disclose shameful secrets in public. The key is motivation, not power.

OMG, that mag cover by FreshlyGroundCoffee was HILARIOUS!! Thanks for the laugh today! Very creative! Thanks for posting that, Nova!

Any of you snarkers plan to "be in the Los Angeles area" so you can catch a taping of Phil's Monster Therapy Rally? (Yes, I know, I know, but you could take a Dramamine before hand.)

My interest is purely for reconnaissance. I knew someone about a dozen years ago who was a guest on Donahue's show and came back with eye-opening tales that made me re-think my Donahue opinion.Re-thought it to the point that I swore off his phoney self and wanted to see "That Girl and Phil" made into a feature film. Lots of love lost for the Irishman. Lots.
Of course the guests see a different side than the studio audience, but imagine seeing how McBloat acts when the camera is off, growling at his staff and pawing the ground.

(I would not last an entire taping, as the urge to scream MOUSE! and point directly under Kitty's chair would be too great an impulse. )

Oh, that would be too awesome. Do it!

Better yet - scream "Sugar!"

That'd be perfect! Of course I could lob a sugar cube in her general direction and she'd have me arrested for "assault with a deadly weapon."

BTW, remember the woman in the movie "Parenthood" (don't remember the actress;Rick Moranis played her husband) who exercised constantly and acted very Kittylike about junk food but kept a medicine chest of sorts deep in her closet full of Twinkies and Snickers and the like for when she was stressed? Betcha Kitty has a closet that Minerva the maid is not allowed to dust. Kitty has a sucrose stash somewhere, otherwise she'd have already taken a rock and killed Phil. Women have relied on candy for generations to keep us from committing serious crime; nutrasweet only slows us down.

I understand many an immacualte conception can be blamed on chocolate. Dr. Phil never reversed that vasectomy- Jorthro is the result of an unholy union with Kitty and a Hershey bar. Call him Coco Suprise.

I will try to attend a taping sometime next season... I live in the San Francisco area, so it's a bit of a long haul, but I haven't been to L.A. for eons and a road trip would be fun. Naturally, I will report back. My hope is that I'll get into one of the Kitty Surprise "I love girl stuff!" shows so there will be lots and lots of pricey freebies under my chair.

According to the web site, the show is on hiatus until August, although "Dr. Phil will be holding a special taping for PARENTS at the end of July! If you are a PARENT and would like to attend a taping of this special episode please fill out the form below."
link to the form

I'm afraid I'm not eligible for this one, not being a PARENT. I don't think my dog counts for the purposes of this show.

I wish I were not 3,000 miles away from LA - I would love to see a taping. But don't you think Dr. Fullofhimself is savvy enough to act right in front of the studio audience? Oh wait, I forgot, he's an asshat! But, I agree with loudfan, if you're going to go, get in on some free goodies under your seat, why not?

As much as I get absolutely, completely and totally annoyed with Dr. Phil for so many reasons (which we have all listed here many times) I have even more contempt for the fools who willingly go on that show! Maybe not for the guests in the early days of the show, they thought they were getting the "good" Dr. Phil. But, now, c'mon. The Emperor Has No Clothes On! And everyone knows it. Or maybe they don't? If you watch any recent show, you know exactly what he is going to say to a guest. Say you have a problem with spending too much money? Guess what - he's going to tell you to stop! Want to loose weight? Guess what - he's going to tell you to not drive by fast food places! My God - why didn't I think of that? So one has to wonder what would drive some people to humiliate themselves on national TV to get advice that is common sense and that any schmo on the street could tell them? Can famewhoring really be that powerful of a force? And I can't help but wonder if Dr. Phil himself doesn't feel the same way about his guests, that they are famewhores who deserve to be treated with total contempt. Because that is the way he acts. Well, I guess it takes a famewhore to know a famewhore.

Whew! I feel better.

Guess what? I just typed in "Dr. Phil criticism" on my (CompuServe) search engine, and #7 was not only linked to TWoP, but the "excerpt" (don't know what the actual name for the blurb is) was something I said!

Check it out:



I am famous, and so is whoever said what was after the fist ellipses! Yeah, us!

This comment is pure genius.

I caught a little bit of today's show with the drug addicted kid... a repeat of course, and I remember seeing the update on him a few months ago. That poor kid was so messed up, but on the update, wow, what a difference, little thanks to DP, except for helping the parents grow balls to get him into rehab. He's handsome, well-spoken and seemed altogether cleaned up. Completely different person. I hope he was able to stay clean. Anyone else see the show today or the update?

These two episodes have been amongst the two that have most traumatized me. Patriarch Phil and The Fucktard Folks LIED to this kid to get him on the air and staged a quack intervention before a live studio audience. This kid should have sued PP and his parent's sorry asses.

Sorry, Dr. AL, but if this had been my kid, lies from his parent would be the LEAST of his problems. His momma needed a big slap, yes, but the minute my child brings in a safe? in my house? his ass is so gone. Yes, you're my child and I love you, but get your big lazy ass up out of the bed, get a job, or get the fuck gone. (What, wasn't he like 20? I was living in a dorm at 16 and on my own at 19....jeez.)

I hate to fall back on old-bad-parenting-cliches, but if ever a child needed to hear: I brought you into this world, and I can take you out!

Now the fact that they aired their skid-marked laundry on Phil? You're so right, AL, that was fucktarded.

Afterall, he did get to appear on CSI.

In regards to today's show about the babies & couples. I know it's a rerun and I've never seen it but I remember wondering the first time around what he gives the childless couple that makes them cry. Does Shill give them a baby? Free in vetro fertilization? What does he do? Why do I care?

He gives them $20K(?) of fertility treatment. Or he took her backstage and impregnated her - because Shill is all about the giving.

Automatic physical clench here.
I want to cross my legs and secure them with solder, but I also want to indulge in a little projectile vomiting.

I just read all 180 pages of this thread, and I must say that you guys are the snarkiest snarkers who ever snarked. Keep it coming!

And this...



HEE! At least now we know why Jothro not only looks nothing like the Mc$hills but acts nothing like them either. They say sooner or later the brown shows through. Perhaps this explains Kitty Surprise's uncomfortable look when $hill called sugar the "white devil"...

I never saw the beginning episodes of the original FUF - holy SHIT. Marty wants to be a stay at home dad to his daughter's baby? Sweet Jesus! And Erin wants to keep it as a little pet or something and raise it as her own? What a perfect union of CRAZY.

You made me choke on my croissant, talkstoomuch!

Dirty, dirty, DrCher. I just had a weird flashback/crossover scene in my head: anyone seen the Monty Python gang teaching English schoolboys how to have sex? Well, substitute $hill for John Cleese.

ITA with the poster who said Phil is a neomaxiezoomed jerk. Also, word to the poster upthread who said that Phil probably has a hellacious foot odor problem and roids. I also agree that, like J. Edgar Hoover, he probably DOES wear high heels and teddies to unwind.

LOL to whomever mused that when Phil sloughs off this mortal coil Robin will open their estate for tours, including the gym and jungle room. Word that "Pomp Land " would need a cafe to serve up high-volume, damn near inedible food, as well as a gift shop with tee shirts that read,"What Were You Thinking?!" "The Best Predictor of Future Behavior is Past Behavior" and "The World's Biggest Blowhard Dipshit Died and All I got Was This Lousy Tee Shirt."

Roses to whoever said that Jorthro is the spawn of someone Kitty met once at an airport lounge; the reversed vasectomy was Phil's way of saving face. I think the boy could be Julio Iglasias's or Squiggy's.

And finally, I have to agree to the snarker who said that--when the studio lights are just so-- it is easy to imagine rubbing the shiny pate of Phil with a handul of seeds and then dousing it with a watering can. Ch Ch Ch Chia.

Edited to correct J Edgar's real first name hence to remove aspersion that insinuated that our worst president also loved his silkies.

Love the snark from newbies who are seeing reruns of Dr. Phucktard for the first time.

Last night on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, Graham Norton guested and said that "Dr. Phull was fat! He's eating all the food so others don't get any!" You go Graham!

Greedy hill-billies.

Oooo, I love Cursing Baby! That was awesome!

I'd forgotten about the dad who never wanted to take his daughter to the doctor. He came across as so strange. I can understand not wanting to overmedicate a child, but jaundice and fever are serious matters and should be treated by a physician.

I do wish DP hadn't praised mother's intuition so much. That implies that women are born knowing what to do for their children. If that were true, there wouldn't be so many children killed every year by poor parenting.

Greenguysmama I saw the druggie guy repeat and update. It is the only time I thought DP did a good job but the job was realy done by the rehab center and the kid. The parents let it go on way to long and were failng the kid.You can't expect the kid to ask for help, he is irrational,he was on drugs.People on drugs can't make rational decisions, they need intervention, just not on TV.All DP did was arrange the rehab which was truly needed and that is where the work was done.
on the update he looks and acts like a new personn, he had a bit part on CSI. I wish they would recap him again, I hope he is sill clean

I haven't seen much of Dr. Phil's show lately, but I watched today. I was totally appalled at the young girls who pestered their parents for expensive clothes/cars, etc.

The first girl (whose mother felt guilty when she didn't give in to her demands) was by far the most horrible. What a little bitch! I wanted to smack that smug look off her face. She didn't even have the decency to look guilty when she found out that her parents were $40,000 in debt and had gotten a second mortgage on her home. Not sure if I even buy her little excuse that she didn't know. What a master manipulator. She doesn't even seem to care that her mother is wearing second hand clothes. And I know the little designer-obsessed bitch recognizes that her mother's clothes aren't on the same level that she wears. And the car situation? There are just no words for that.

And what is wrong with her clueless mother and father? Do they really need someone to tell them that they're leading their children down the road to ruin by giving them everything they want (especially when you can't afford it?) I just can't believe these people are in charge of three children's unpbringing. I think it may be too late for the first girl to change, because she's practically an adult. Hopefully, she may watch herself on the show and do a turnabout, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

The 11 year old was pretty bad, but at least her father seems to have common sense. The mother is kind of weak, but with her father to put some restraints on the situation, there may still be hope for her.

The aspiring designer was deluded and kind of obnoxious, but at least she was paying for the designer clothes that she craved. But even if she's an extraordinary designer, her chances of becoming rich and famous are slim. But as least her mother didn't create a monster.

I see from this thread, that there is a lot of critisicm for Dr. Phil, and I agree with a lot of it. But I did think he was pretty good on today's show. When he said to that first mother, "If you have a brain in your head, you won't buy her a Lexus," I though that was great advice. The damage may be done with their daughter, but they don't have to continue to indulge her selfishness. I also thought Dr. Phil had some good advice for the wanna-be designer. Not that I think she's going to take it.

It made me sick to hear that young girls admire Paris Hilton. I thought people probably like to watch "The simple Life" to make fun of their cluelessness.

With the 11 year old, her parents should just drop her off at the flea market with $25 bucks. An 11 year old does not need designer purses. She can buy knockoffs like the aspiring designer girl.

Yeah! Snobby Little Brats and the Parents Who Failed Them.

I'm so tired of people blaming the media (and pretty much everyone except themselves) for their children's problems. Maybe if they spent more time with their kids instead of sitting them in front of the Cathode Babysitter they wouldn't have these issues now.

blocked writer, I've noticed that I tend to agree with DP when he does the parenting episodes. He does provide a common sense wake-up call for clueless people. I think he should stick to those types of shows instead of the season-long WLC/FUF crapfests.

I see where tomorrow they start the repeats of FUF2.
Holy Cow!! WHO pissed off the tv gods??
As much as I used to enjoy Dollar Bill (DrP), I am totally avoiding the repeats o'Summer. The shows were painful enough the first time around.

Here, here everyone! I liked DP's advice too, but there was one thing that really pissed me off. He was bugging that last girl about getting A's in school and how she'll have to do a lot of math. Well, just the other day, he spent a good few minutes talking with Robin about how she does ALL of their finances because he's a dummy in math. Way to be, hyporcrite.

Most kids want name brands, that's just the way they are. That doesn't mean you have to give it to them. I was poor growing up and when my parents could afford to get me a name brand that I really wanted (which was rare), I thanked them for weeks and made up for it. I blame the parents for the vast majority of these issues, if not all.

So true, SnowDog. I won't say that the media and peer pressure don't have an effect on children, but these parents need to grow a spine, say no and mean it!

When I was a teenager, I thought my father was the cheapest man in the world. But I kept those thoughts to myself, or only shared them with my sister. My dad used to make us account for all the money we needed, beyond our allowance. If wee needed money for school activities, clothes, etc., we had to give him a list of what we intended to buy, and how much it would cost. Only then could we have the money. My mother was a stay-at-home mom for much of my childhood, but even if she had been giving out the money, there's no way she'd have indulged us like these parents.

If I ever had the temerity to tell my father how cheap I thought he was, I can imagine him saying, "Fine, do without it." My father made a decent living and could have spent a little more on us, I suppose. But we had everything we needed, and it never occurred to me to pressure my folks for super expensive designer clothes that were clearly beyond their means. And the first girl's nasty attitude wouldn't have been tolerated by my parents, either.

And if I had been lucky enough to be given any kind of car at 16 (even a used one), I'd have been thrilled. The concept of any child refusing to drive a new car (a free new car!) because it isn't good enough, just boggles my mind. That girl needs to live with my parents for a year. They'd straighten out her spoiled ways. Actually, if she weren't such a bitch, I'd feel sorry for her. Her gutless parents did her a real disservice. I can only imagine the romantic trouble she's going to have in her life. She has a cute face, so she can attract a guy, but no decent guy is going to stick around once he gets to see how she really is.

Hi -- emerging from lurkdom for a minute -- I watched Dr. Pompous today for the first time in months & the bit with the aspiring designer reminded me of something I heard on the radio yesterday:

The afternoon DJ said that he felt like calling up his old high school guidance counselor, the one who always bugged him to buckle down & get good grades. "Hey.....Mr. Whosits......guess what? I'm at work -- & my job tonight is to go to the Styx concert!"

I truly hope her dreams come true & she comes back in a few years & says, "Hey, Dr. Phil.......Phftbbbbbbbbb!"

I couldn't believe Dr. Phil praised her at the end of the show for being so "articoolate." Every third word out of her mouth was "like"! Chicky, Moon Unit Zappa called. She wants her Valley Girl dialect back.

SnowDog, I don't give a damn what our genders are, I'm having your baby.

"Cathode Babysitter" Ladies and Germs, I think we have a new word for the lexicon.

Here is what this bitter old childfree woman doesn't get: how can the media influence your children unduly, if YOU as the parent ultimately control the access the child has to said media?

Here's a concept: you aren't your child's friend. You are your child's parent. Parenting means having to be the bad guy sometimes. It means loving your child enough to stand up to him or her because it is the best for the child. It isn't a popularity contest. Sometimes a child must be told NO.

Do you think that your child won't "love you" if you set boundaries and establish rules and demand proper behavior? You don't think much of your progeny, do you? Furthermore, what child doesn't go through phases of loathing their parents? That's part of growing up. That's a big part of why chicks leave the nest. Trust me, I had very strict parents, I hated them a lot of the time for the rules, and then I grew up and became a responsible adult (largely due to their rules). I realized that, while I didn't always get to do every little thing my heart desired as a child, my parents had my best interests at heart. They showed me their love by caring enough about me to risk alienating me for my safety, growth, and well-being.

As for the conspicuous consumption crew on today's show, I have a quote:



blocked writer, yours is the coolest name ever.

Cross Eyed Mary, that would be cool, and maybe her dreams will come true. But realistically, the odds are against her. For each designer who has made it, there are probably at least 100 who don't. I have a feeling the successful ones had a combination of great talent, ambition, hard work, and a lot of good luck, and most of them were motivated initially by an artistic vision, not by the desire to have a huge house with a pool.

I don't know anything about this girl's talent, but I remember thinking her taste in clothes was a little suspect. Those hats (designer or knock-off, whatever they were) were ugly, IMO, but I only caught a glimpse of them.

Maybe this girl is a great designer, or maybe she is just some deluded kid who thinks she's great. Even if she's exceptionally talented, it would be good to learn as much math as she can. Everyday you hear about rich people who were ripped off by their accountant or business manager. Dr. Phil's own lack of math skills nonwithstanding, his advice to her on that count was good.



maggiegault, truer words were never spoken! The parents of the first girl have not only raised a kid with a horrible outlook on life, they also are setting a terrible example for their other two children. I just can't imagine it's that hard for these parents to see the damage they are doing. And the mother of the 11 year old made me sick with how much she wanted to blame the media. What the hell is an 11 year old doing watching "The Simple Life" anyway? If you have allowed your daughter to even entertain the idea that you should have a private jet, when you are clearly not super-wealthy, then the fault is yours, not the media's. She needs to sit that brat down and tell her that they can't afford a jet, but even if they could, it would be none of her business if they should buy one or not. And I'd stop taking that little heifer shopping with me all the time!

When I think about children who are war orphans and refugees, or kids who are being physically and/or verbally abused, I want to shake all three of the self-centered girls on the show. They have no concept of how lucky they are, especially the first two, who are without a doubt two of the most spoiled brats I've ever seen on TV.

Anyway, enough ranting from me. maggiegault, thanks for the compliments on my screen name. Your mother sounds like a smart lady who raised a cool daughter.

Ack! Have you seen this?!!! Dr. Phil's Newsletter. $24.95 for 12 issues? Sheesh. I get a New Yorker yearly subscription for $35 bucks, and that's every week. And, I bet it's better for me.

I'm so glad that I too was raised in a family with rules (and not much money) after watching Dr. Shill yesterday. I just can't wrap my head around the idea of parents who can't say NO to their kids.

And what is an 11-year-old girl doing wandering the malls with a credit card (I assume) and her little partners in crime (shopping)? WTF? I wasn't allowed to go shopping with my friends until I was a teenager and my mom made damn sure she knew what I was shopping for and how much money I'd need; and you'd better believe she checked my purchases when I came home too.

So maybe my parents were unusually strict. But my sister and I both knew how to balance a checkbook and handle our own finances by the time we were 19, and we never got into huge credit card debt or had to beg our parents for money as adults.

I hated what Dr. Shill said when the show opened: "Fancy cars, designer purses, Tiffany jewelry: these are things you'd expect a man might buy his wife or girlfriend, but nowadays they're things young kids are demanding too." As if women aren't allowed to buy their own luxury goods. Well, maybe in your house, Shill, but not mine. Grr!

Not to mention that that any child of mine that tried to demand anything past a breast pre-weaning would find themselves set straight PDQ. Demand, my ass.

So the little miss is getting Prada purses at the age of 11.

Can you imagine what kind of problems she's going to have in 10 years when her hubby can't keep her in the lifestyle to which she's become accustomed?

The problem isn't just now; it'll be forever, unless they set her straight yesterday.

I would think at this point, it's too late for that to get fixed, with her or with her siblings. If the parents fold that fast for her, once the siblings start with the 'but you did it for [kid's name]', they don't have a chance. They've set a precedent.

Word.

These parents were spineless simps. They deserve their bratty children - they created them!

I think it's utterly hiliarious that the designer-girl idolized the Simple Life girls. FOR WHAT? Making sex tapes, acting like complete skanks and pretty much embarassing all of womankind?