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timeonmyhands
My son is adopted so I have yet to go through childbirth. However, Mr TOMH and I are planning on working on baby #2 very soon now. Is it strange that all these stories about pain and breaking water actually make me excited to be pregnant?
katymo
Yeah I'll say New Zealand/Australia-ish too, its pretty cool sounding whatever it is (though its no Phil from TAR!)

These people are all fucking crazy. Especially the wife, why does the world revolve around her other than she's a narcissist? Bitch. John's just as psycho, but he keeps it inside a little better. I hope these people aren't anywhere near my state. My parents went through this, but at least I have one parent that is normal. Yeesh.
fangums
Not that her soon-to-be ex is any prize either - I mean, he chose to marry her.

No, no, gatopreto, weren't you listening? She talked him into marrying her. Poor John.

I liked Ann the attorney but she wasn't right for Amy. I like the new guy, too, especially the way he keeps calling Suzanne on her shit-talking. Because I don't like Suzanne. But truthfully? They just bore me. It isn't even interesting snarking on them like the relationship rescue disaster couples. Neither of these people have one redeeming quality that I can see.
batmom
batmom, I just didn't find the emergency c-section to be the joyous birth experience that was advertised (bwa ha ha!) to all expectant moms. Then again, I wasn't one of these folks that "loved every minute of my pregnancy", either. One minute, we were doing a test, the next minute I was on a gurney, thirty minutes later, baby was whisked to NICU, and I'm going, "hey.......uh...."


Oh, honey, do we have stuff in common. I felt much the same way, although Batboy was born vaginally. I was kind of eager to see what it was like to have a less stressful birth with Batgirl, but by the time I entered my seventh month I was over it. I wanted it over with. Batguy overheard me chatting to her, telling her that her brother was proof that she really didn't need to hang out in my womb for so long. See how she listened to me? Ironically, she was a c-section. Because she was too damned big! Batboy - 3lbs 10oz, 10 weeks early, speedy birth. Batgirl - 10lbs 3oz, 4 days late, long labour ending in c-section.

And don't get me started about the "joyous birth experience". I get frothy with rage when I read or see anything that sells that shit to expectant parents. My SIL seriously considered not having a medically adivsed c-section (she was at risk of hemorraging) because she'd read that kids brains don't develop properly when they're not pushed through the birth canal.

Uh, topic? Dr. Phil has a slap-me face. He's just begging for somebody to reach out and whap him. Preferably me.
JR Labrador
Amy takes the cake.


But doesn't John insist on having the top layer?

These people are just plain squalid. She's a shreiking harpy way too into her own victimology and he's a petty fool who's hung up on silly possessions. Complete and total asshats.
Meghan Jill
Boy, has this board grown! Last time I was here it was at a measly 35 pages or so. How things change.

My sympathy here goes for Amy. She is way, way too emotional and taking things personally, but Suzanne seems to relish riling her up and making her look crazy while all John has to do is sit back and watch her self-destruct. That's not behavior of a good attorney, that's behavior of a vindictive ninth-grade homecoming princess. And I caught him smiling to himself more than once when it happened. Good for her attorney for standing up for her.

Nor am I entirely pleased with our friend Dr. Phil. He would have a great opportunity to help the couple sort things out, but he chose to bring the lawyers along which makes the whole situation adversarial. And it was wrong, very wrong of him to pick apart Amy's tape-recorded behavior and then turn to John and say, "You should never have taped her." How phony!
JamieGoralski
Borokat, the closer you get to the full moon, the more likely BoroBaby will be born! That's a fact! More babies born near the full moon than at any other time. Unfortunately, no moon tonight!


I know some people thing this is urban myth but my daughter was one of 17 babies born the night of a full moon, and all the nurses said that it is absolutely true. Then again with all three of my kids hard labor started while I was watching Saturday Night Live...so I think Lorne Michaels some weird form of pitocin.

Topic: I liked Amy's first attorney, Ann, but she was so trying to get fired. I don't think she was afraid of Suzanne as much as she knew if she was less agressive Amy would opt for someone else. Smart woman. Her new attorney is excellent, calls Suzanne on all her instigating shit yet still manages to hold himself above the fray.
borokat
He would have a great opportunity to help the couple sort things out, but he chose to bring the lawyers along which makes the whole situation adversarial


With these fools, I bet they would not agree to be on the show without their lawyers.

batmom, don't I know you from Fametracker? Celebrity Baby Names thread? For those of you who have not been over there, it is hi-freakin-larious. I think that I am going to take a cue from Gwyneth Paltrow and also name my baby Apple.
Stardancer2001
And don't get me started about the "joyous birth experience". I get frothy with rage when I read or see anything that sells that shit to expectant parents. My SIL seriously considered not having a medically adivsed c-section (she was at risk of hemorraging) because she'd read that kids brains don't develop properly when they're not pushed through the birth canal.


Word! Please don't fall for that "wonderful birth experience" crap. Only a few women glide through their pregnancy and birth with hearts and flowers. I was dog tired after being in labor for 12 hours, and my baby boy cried nonstop for his first 6 hours of life. I was utterly clueless about motherhood. Now when I have another baby, I'll know better (and hand the squalling newborn to a nurse so I could get some sleep!).


John and Amy are 2 of the most petty people I have ever seen. I agree with Suzanne; sell the house, divvy the stuff (or chuck it, for God's sack) and move the hell on. There's no way in hell I'd fight over anything that can be replaced. The spite cup runneth ova......
fangums
There's no way in hell I'd fight over anything that can be replaced. The spite cup runneth ova......

During the meeting where Suzanne kept saying "what will you die if you don't get", I started mentally going through my house wondering what I'd have to have. And I came up with: my bed, which I love and which I had pre-marriage, and my scrapbooks. Oh, and maybe my cow picture. And that's really truly it. I'm sure there are other things, and I'm sure certain things would become more important to me if I were in such an emotionally charged situation, but "petty" and "spiteful" are certainly accurate descriptions.
chainey
Reeeeally stupid when you figure in Lawyer's fee = $250 an hour plus against 1/2 of a used set of Tupperware = $5. Loss to each party = $122.50. That's some expensive plastic.
marillion
Today's show remided me of those awful court shows I avoid!

Borokat, my parents gave mr marillion a Swingline for Xmas a few years back- it is a beaut! Question for you- have you starting feeling the nesting urge? Because I have heard that that particular burst of energy means labor is right around the corner!
masked_spangler
I would fight "to the beaches" for my exercise video collection and trinkets my mother gave me over the years which are not even expensive enough to be called jewelry, and that's pretty much it. Everything else I own can be replaced and frankly is not worth that much anyway. But "he" is NOT getting my Tae Bo, Firm tapes (the out-of-print volume 4!), Slim Series, Power 90 etc. The (imaginary) bastard! And no lectures from Dr. Phil about why do I need so many different ones, either. I can get that speech from my mother if I feel like hearing it.

Joh and Amy bore me. They are both annoying. I just don't care. Of all the Dr. Phil "series" he has done, I think this one bores me the most. I mean, they are fighting over the tupperware? Snooze. And yet I watched today. What does that say about me?

In other news: I snatched Self Matters and the diet book off the Fast Read table at the library. Then I promptly called my therapist friend and told her that I scored 54% on the "how in touch are you with your authentic self" quiz, and she laughed and laughed and told me that the important thing to remember was that being out of touch with your authentic self assuems that you actually believe not only that there IS an authentic self, but that if so it is so easy to get in touch or out of touch with it. And as far as that goes, it's a bunch of hokum and my problem (if I do in fact have one which is also debateable) is nothing more than unemployed 20-something ennui and residual Daddy Issues, in which case I would be better served with a copy of What Color is Your Parachute and a reckless round of speed-dating. Then she asked if she could borrow the diet book when i was done with it.
DR. AL
Boy, do I hate Amy! This is one sister that deserves to lose it all. Lying manipulative bitch! Normally I side with women, sisters, and feminists but this woman is one crazy and lying bitch and she's eeevil! Worst of all her little sissy lawyer (who likely got his JD from a box of Corn Flakes) tried to pitifully use The Mighty Ann Crittenden's Revolutionary Findings from Price of Motherhood to lamely bolster his limp-dicked case. Sorry schmuck, if you're gonna bring in the Big Feminist Artillery then your gonna have to do better then that. I could at least respect the husband's lawyer even if she was a total bitch.

Besides, if Amy was behaving herself it wouldn't have mattered if he got her on tape. She's just mad that he showed her for the shrewish harpy and all around bitch that she is. She's basically saying:

"I can't believe that you told me you'd never tape me being abusive to you and then you then did that to me! Don't I have the right to abuse you in private?!?"

Bitch, you had it coming!

Naturally, PP's reminding us that we should all be on the kid's side every 2 minutes got old real fast.
Drummouse
Joh and Amy bore me. They are both annoying. I just don't care.

I have to agree. Their agendas runneth over.
These two need help.... as in counseling to cool down and get realistic. Most importantly they are doing long term damage to the children with a front row seat to this nonsense. I have no doubt that if they were physically beating the kids, this freight train would stop on a dime until help was found. I have to believe DrP is doing more in this area behind the scenes in as much as he speaks up for kids in such FUFs.

Personally, I wouldn't give ya two-bits for either of these self-centered, vengeful bizarre-o's. She's nothing short of permanently hysterical and his passive-aggressive methods push her to such critical levels.
Heaven help those kids who are getting a damaging life-lesson.
percolata
Dr Al ITA with your post. Glad someone else despises Amy's sycophant lawyer. He makes Mr Burn's Smithers seem like a rebel. Amy doesn't need to worry that he'll ever ask her to be reasonable. If she demanded everything from John, from his Old Spice deodorant to all his future earnings, it would all just be what she deserves for carrying his babies for nine months. I loved his new term for total witch ("independant woman"). I imagine there's a whole group of lawyers out there who have learned to play this faux-feminist card to ingratiate themselves with women like Amy. Any time she turns into a screaming banshee, they can refer to her behavior as just being a strong, assertive woman.

I hate that stuff. It gives real feminists a bad name. Amy is just plane selfish. She's a feminist when she wants to believe that anything she bought with money she earned ( or even just went shopping for) is hers and she's 1953-Woman when it comes to the assumption that the house and everything in it belongs to the poor abandoned housewife. You could see the little wheels turning in her tiny brain when she started saying that if John paid alimony then she would spend it all on the children. Yeah. Just as the children enjoy sitting on the floor looking at her globe, they probably would love the educational benefits of hearing about the exports of Africa while they looked at her new diamond necklace.
Hexele
She's a feminist when she wants to believe that anything she bought with money she earned ( or even just went shopping for) is hers and she's 1953-Woman when it comes to the assumption that the house and everything in it belongs to the poor abandoned housewife.


Aha. Percolata, you have nailed it. I didn't like her from day one; although he's no prize, and I agree with whomever said he was the type to push buttons just to push buttons while getting quieter and "saner" just to prove that he's the rational one, blech. Her whininess about "he didn't buy me jewelry" and her attitude about the air hockey table -- i.e., it wasn't for HER, it was something the kids and hubby could enjoy -- just belies all her independent feminist crap.

Amy, honey, a truly independent woman would set up her OWN house. I've done it. Twice. Shut it.


she laughed and laughed and told me that the important thing to remember was that being out of touch with your authentic self assuems that you actually believe not only that there IS an authentic self, but that if so it is so easy to get in touch or out of touch with it.


spangler, you have cracked me up. I think I'll use this on Mr Hex: "I'm just out of touch with my authentic self today...."
Gemmadoll
So this is really FUF#1's swan song? Well, let's tap the keg.

Phil you have broadcast your message to drama queens and irresponsible people everywhere! :Hey ya'll! Life not workin'? Marriage suckin'? No place for soft fallin'? Well come see Uncle Phil down at his bran' new studio here in California! We'll gitcha a vacation, expensive psychiatry, a make-over, new furniture, boardin' school and lots legal help you wouldn't be able to afford! Can you bitch 'n moan on the TV for weeks on end and let cameras tail ya? Will you turn the other way (or turn on the spigot) when I humiliate you with info my spies turn up? Then come see me, Uncle Phil down at Phil's Exploitation and RV sales. All participants get my autograph, as well as a personal audience in row 12 with my wife Robin. So come on down! (Note: some participants may not be deemed worthy for Robin audience. An alternate prize of equal or lesser value may be awarded. Void where common sense prohibits.)
percolata
Hee I love it Gemmadoll, particularly the Robin part.

But come on you guys, hands up, who didn't cry over the adoption couples? I hope all the teenage girls who are headed for the dumpster drop off in the near future will remember them.
batmom
Yes, borokat, c'est moi. I'm a regular TWOP lurker.
lls59
borokat: why not be original? Choose another fruit - Plum for a girl, perhaps, or Mango; and maybe Kiwi or Ugli for a boy. Apples will be thick on the ground for a few years to come.

Topic: Must go watch the "end" of FUF1. See what kind of lovely parting gifts they're given - maybe Katherine will get a house of her own. Hope she's lost the 40-year-old "ladies who lunch" hairstyle!
radtasms
Watchin' Dr.Phil right now, and goodness, am I ever glad to hear those other couples found children to adopt. I was going to be pissed if they replayed those sections of FUF #1 without telling that those lovely couples got their happy ending.

Poor Nathan.
lindseywalker
The mister & I were watching this last night (actually he was pretending to read ESPN magazine, but I KNOW he was at least listening) and really it was sickening. Amy's "My globe! He wants my globe! He's being so petty." He is but you aren't? Step away from the leather couch!!
Those poor, poor kids. There is probably no way they aren't already a little screwed up because of this.
I couldn't stop thinking about the fact that this couple once loved each other. (possibly) He shopped for a ring and planned a proposal. She planned a wedding. They kissed after the vows. They honeymooned. Now, they just seemed liked they absolutely hated each other's guts. I've only been married for three years, but it's sad to think that maybe they were once like us and that's what can happen. That burning seething hate is very disturbing to see.
Drummouse
.... And if I have to see that stinkin' footage of Marty confessing (?) then Erin breaking down and Alex with that stupid pout on her face, followed by Drama Queen Katherine ballin' her freakin' eyes out AGAIN, I'm gonna lose it!!

Dadgummitt!! They showed it again! .... a couple of times, no less!!

Glad to see DrP was able to throw a few more thousand $$'s at this family before they got away!
Who says you can't buy happiness??!! uuugghhhh...

And as for FUF2 wrapping up next week.....YYYAAAWWWNNNN!!!
katymo
Bwaha, they just love that clip! I laughed again. At Erin's "old" hair too, yikes.

No kidding about the $$. These are some of the biggest assholes ever and they now have rewards coming out of every orifice. Katherine gets a new laptop?! She's just gonna use it to look up how to kiss boys extra good. Blah! I've been wanting one of those for years and it still won't happen soon. Can I be a famewhore when I grow up?

Erin looks exactly like that woman who was just convicted of killing her husband using antifreeze. Scary.

ETA: I'm really very happy for the adopting couples, they all looked so happy it made me teary for the first time ever on this show. Those little girls were so freaking cute!
Bean421
I really enjoy lurking around here, the snark is delicious. One question though. What is FUF? PP has sucked me in with the trainwreck that is Chris and Stacy.
elegantlady
Amy & Jon - I don't get how she can afford that house. If it's worth $500 grand, why would she not be happy to get half of the sale proceeds? She says she makes a lot less than Jon. But then, I fail to understand attachments to houses. I suppose it's just another power play. Would somebody tell Jon that if he colors his hair the mustache has to be colored, too. Just a little pet peeve of mine - remember Sharon Stone's ex?

I wish that family of losers (Erin, Marty, etc., etc.) would just disappear. That poor baby should have been adopted by a responsible couple. How does that skank think she deserves a normal teenage life? DP is really being sucked in (sending that moron to the beaches because she wants to be a marine biologist, PLEASE!)>
Gemmadoll
What is FUF?


Fucked up family. Currently we have Marty and Erin and the Erinettes in the role of FUF#1. Our FUF#2 is the lovely Stacy Straightjacket and her long-simpering spouse "I miss my balls" Chris. We're all so waiting for FUF#3 with bated breath. It'll be nothing but a circus to be sure!
Corbinxxa84
The change in Erin is just hilarious.

At the beginning, she looked like a dour, anus-faced battleax that took pride in how charismatically she could punish her children.

Now, she looks like one of those fancy, high-class hookers that visit business executives in their offices after work.

What a journey. Good riddance and good luck trying to parlay those oh-so-intense verbal bitchslaps into a Hollywood career, Erin.
JR Labrador
That's it! I want to be on DP where I can turn my dysfunction into valuable cash and prizes!

ETA: I almost forgot my favorite line:

DP (aka PBTeen Shill) to the FUF#1 at the end of the show: "You received alot but you've also given alot to America."

Yeah, they've given America a collective migraine.
silverwing
I'm actually interested in FUF1. They're bright enough to actually have some insight and make some discernable changes, and the three women are quite articulate. Marty, not so much. Nonetheless, they hold my interest.

The FUF2 on the other hand, is a total disaster. That mom has a personality disorder, and she ain't changin', honey. They've been running in place since the beginning. Get out, Chris, and take the kids with you.
Princess Tanella
I am really glad that the couples who were looking to adopt were matched with some lovely babies. However, I figure I am at least a little bit evil on the inside, because when the second couple said that they couldn't decide between the two, so they just adopted both, I felt like they were being greedy. (I only say that knowing that there are plenty of people who wait *years* for healthy, white newborns, and I don't figure that the baby that they didn't pick would have been dumped in a dumpster or anything awful like that.) Oh well, I am happy that they were adopted into families that will love them, it's just that mean little voice that Oprah keeps trying to convince me is my intuition that whispers "greedy..."

Katherine's new bedroom...She got tuns of free stuff--yay! Other than that, when I was 13, my room was my space, and I don't think I would have taken well to having it redecorated without my input. Sure, she'd been looking at the furniture and stuff in catalogs so they knew she'd like that, but on my tv it looked like they went from a fun and vibrant green to a blah taupe. I mean, my house now is taupe, I don't have a problem with it. I just don't think it would be at the top of the list for a 13 year old girl.
Siona
Hi- I'm an old-timer on TWoP, but I can't believe I never discovered this lovely snarky thread until today.

One unneccessary but persistant question: what the hell kind of accent is that on John's lawyer? I keep trying to pin it down, but then it dodges me. She sounds like a German-Australian-stroke survivor.


Hee! That's perfect.

I think that the children should be taken away from Amy and Jon and put into Witness Protection - the best thing for them would be to never see those human teratomas again.

Since that won't happen, the house should go to the kids. They deserve to have a steady sanctuary after all the change in their lives. When Amy and Jon were bitching about how hard it was to change dwellings every week, I just thought "this is what your kids will go through for the rest of their childhood, if things go well and you get joint custody.

If Amy gets major therapy and a Xanax IV line, then having Jon rent a room would definitely be the best thing for the kids.
Maybelline
I missed the last twenty minutes of today's show. Did Alex, Marty, and Erin get fat prizes, too? Katherine's room makeover was underwhelming-it looked better before.

Nathan's prize should have been a brand new family.
LisaLyn27
I think Alex's present was the trip to the Caymen's (which Erin and Katherine got to go on). Marty was totally left out in the present department! Hey! He should sue! Of course, he and Erin are getting a boat load o' paid-for therapy.

I agree about Katherine's room. When they were tearing it apart, I figured Katherine was terrified that they were going to find her Super Secret Diary (do kids still keep those?). I would have been. Yikes.
fangums
Of course, he and Erin are getting a boat load o' paid-for therapy.

Really? From whom?
Maybelline
I did hear Dr. Phil mention that Marty and Katherine came out to Cali one day early to go to Disneyland together. So Katherine got to go to the Caymans, Disneyland, a room makeover, and a new computer and Alex just got the trip? I think Phil's got a favorite.
masked_spangler
Well, Marty got to go to Disneyland with Katherine, fwiw.

I have come to like Erin, for some reason. I am rooting for her. I hope Shill follows up with them next season.

And while I am sure those babies will be loved and cherished and have happy homes with the nice adoptive people---I have to admit, when I heard that they had been named Tatum, Taylor and Ashton, that littl ejudgemental diva who lives inside us all squealed "eat hot death, yuppie scum."
DrCher
I'm happy to see that Erin and Marty are all hunky-dory now, but she is making a BIG mistake by letting that man ("that man", just like how Marty calls his mistress "that woman") take over their family finances. He settles secret lawsuits, cashes checks behind her back, etc. He can't be trusted.

Katherine's room didn't look all that interesting after the makeover.
Princess Tanella
Oh, yuck, I had forgotten about Alex's little speech about how her mom is more like the "man of the house" because she's the one who looks after paying the bills and such. My mom did that stuff too, because she was the one who was *good* at it. And as DrCher points out, Marty can't be trusted. No way would I give him control of the finances.
Sars
I will miss Marty. Specifically, I will miss laughing hysterically at him every time he started crying. I am a very bad person and will surely go to hell, but I do not care, because Marty's constipated crying face = comedy gold.

"Boo hoooooo! I love you! I have a ping-pong paddle up my ass! [snurfle]"

Gold, I tells ya.

(Comedy silver: Erin's old hair, courtesy of the Braille Institute.)
Drummouse
Marty was totally left out in the present department!

He got to go to Germany to see his brother.
Erin got to go to Germany and the Caymans.
Alex got the Caymans and Dallas.
Katherine got the Caymans and Dallas, and a trip to Disneyland.
Not to mention they all got expense-paid trips to California every couple of weeks.
In fact, you know all these were all-expense-paid ON TOP OF future counseling (which trust me, ain't cheap!)

.....and Nathan got a lifetime with these folks. uuugghhhh....

POOR FAMILY!!! BLESS THEIR HEARTS!!
DR. AL
I really like Erin too... except when she's being a judgmental bitch! At least Erin is smart enough to realize that she'd eventually just find another Marty if she were back out on the market which is such an important realization. People who understand that their guidance system is what gets them into trouble can resolve their intrapersonal and interpersonal issues with far greater effectiveness. They're actually much better matched than she thinks they are. As for the girl's sexist comments on their role reversal, that tendency towards contrasexual gender roles is what actually likely attracted Erin and Marty to begin with. She's hyper-responsible and he's irresponsible. Erin believes that she wants someone as competent as herself but the truth is that she'd have a hard time ever surrendering that level of control or ever trusting someone that much. Beyond that, the experiences of her formative years (and her constitutional character) have shaped her into who she is. If I was going to hook up with a woman, I'd want her to be as competent as Erin but without the nagging and screaming tirades. I was ready to slap Alex and Katherine's sexist little mouths off of their faces. I can see that they want to be able to respect their Father, fair enough, but that doesn't mean that they have to follow Patriarch Phil's Model of the Family to get there. More and more I am realizing that the secret strength to Robin and Phil's marriage is her endless hero-worship and utter lack of a thinking and charismatic personality that can stand-up to him. Robin is just like Marabelle Morgan who wrote the ultimate sexist manifesto: The Total Woman (or as we feminists like to call it) The TOTALLED Woman!

I've actually gotten kind of attached to this family though there's one episode that they never did that I wanted to see:

Tragedy Strikes: Erin, Marty, Alex, and Nathan must deal with the aftermath of Katherine meeting a sudden and tragic end by being run over by her schoolbus. Can the family survive?

I've always hated Katherine. And I think the reason I hate her has less to do with the fact that she's bratty and more to do with the fact that she speaks like some sort of informed authority. I'm not a big fan of people who make it a practice to write checks bigger then their brains, mouth, and ass can cash.

It sounds like we'll see more of this family next year whereas it sounds like Stacy and Chris may be wrapping up both their marriage and time on the show.

The most nauseating thing about yesterday's show was everyone fawning over Dr. Phil and then Robin offering up her inane commentary as they did their arm in arm exit thing. Robin's genes must be worth it (and her pussy must have a turbo-charger) for someone as dynamic as Dr. Phil to hook up with her. The again, considering the size of the man's ego, Robin is the perfect choice because she's so small and quiet she barely takes up any of the lime-light.
fangums
I originally said:

Of course, he and Erin are getting a boat load o' paid-for therapy.

Really? From whom?


So I was happy to read this:

In fact, you know all these were all-expense-paid ON TOP OF future counseling (which trust me, ain't cheap!)


because I really thought the "free counseling" referred to what Dr. Phil has been doing all along, and that didn't seem to have a whole lot of value.
Gemmadoll
Today's compulsive shopping and hoarding woman? NO NO NO!!! I don't care if she is found skeletized under her twenty tons of crap she "has" to buy. She has crossed the line into elder abuse by filling her mother's house and not, apparently, reacting at all that she has her mom in debt so heavily that this elderly lady up at 3am to run a paper route!

Where are the other people in this clan who love grandma? How about crazyhoarder's grown sons? Uncle Phil, you better send this Batshit Betty on one of your reward vacations pdq, like, say, a three week cruise. While she's gone EVERYTHING should be sold off except her clothes & photographs and all the money put to relieving the debt she's saddled grandmom with. Pronto. Then the rest of the family needs to get off their asses and look after grandmom's best interest.

This is one for the authorities. Don't care how wacky your life or your mindset is, once you start abusing kids, the elderly or animals the jig is up. Phil, where is your standard,"The whole WORLD needs to fall in on you" ? Dork.
Tosia
Late addition to the "where's Marty's prize?" thread.

Marty got to go to Germany and visit his half brother and his dad's resting site (grave). He got much more than the FUF1 females in terms of inherent value.

Wait, now you're saying that this is the end of FUF1? WTF?

They're not divorced? Savvy Erin is letting LiarMarty handle the finances????

Alex is not knocked up again? But she can ignore the baby Nathan and fuck around.

Katherine is not in juvie hall? So she can get more deeply traumatized by all this tv pseudo-therapy, and support a real therapist when she turns 30? It's drugs and alcohol until then.

Oh, no, this is total bullshit. NOTHING HAS CHANGED!--(I am screaming inside my head.)

Wait, are they in an alternate universe that no one told me about? Did I miss that show?

Dr. Shill has pulled a big wooly one over America's eyes. (Yeah, if you want to take that pornographically, go ahead, but the rest of you may need Maalox.)

Poor, poor Nathan. Doomed.
borokat
Oh, that is all coming Tosia. I think that DP is just wrapping their crap in a big red, shiny bow to attempt to fool of the Phil-ites into thinking that once again, he has worked his magic. But you know, crap wrapped in a big pretty box is still crap.

And word, Gemmadoll, I think that there might be something certifiably wrong with CrazyShoppingLady. Like personality disorder wrong. I think that the metal detector dude is actually going to work on his issues, but CSL has no intentions of it. Surely eventually she will run out of money!

Edited because apparently, I cannot spell the word MAGIC!
ShallaHB
Good to see you're still with us Borokat. Well, maybe not good, it all depends on how you feel. Here's a tip if you want to get the little sucker out - have a huge fight with your insurance company. That's what happened to me (assholes) then I went in for my regularly scheduled Dr.'s appointment and my water broke. That was baby #2. Baby #1 came at 33 weeks (also after water breaking), but I really don't recommend that route. It's more fun to actually get to take your baby home after giving birth versus staying at the NICU for weeks.

Okay, Topic.

Borokat wrote:
I think that DP is just wrapping their crap in a big red, shiny bow to attempt to fool of the Phil-ites into thinking that once again, he has worked his majic.


Does the Shil ever work magic? The only people he's ever "cured" have been people that have been on for short periods of time and have done such stupid things that one look at themselves on the television and they changed their ways to stop looking idiotic. Say like, baby-speech lady. Actually, Phil did not even cure her, good lord, all's it took was millions of other people seeing you like that on t.v. That's quite a way to get your 15 minutes of fame. Dr. Phil's magic is is just the smoke and mirrors that seems to thrill a certain portion of the population....that portion which does not seem to be on these boards! Hee...

Also somewhat topic - although Erin's hair has undergone quite the transformation, Alex's face has, too. She has certainly lost all of her baby weight, her face was like a full moon at the beginning and she looks so different now. Wish I could say the same - little shalla is 10 1/2 months old and kid-shalla is 3 1/2 and I haven't lost a lick of weight from either one. Can't say the weight-loss challenge has done anything for me, either! Seems like everytime I watch those damn shows I just get hungry. Bah.
Miss Granger
The most nauseating thing about yesterday's show was everyone fawning over Dr. Phil and then Robin offering up her inane commentary as they did their arm in arm exit thing. Robin's genes must be worth it (and her pussy must have a turbo-charger) for someone as dynamic as Dr. Phil to hook up with her.


Wow! Coke EVERYwhere! Perhaps the turbo-charger kicks in without warning from time to time and is partially responsible for the look of constan surprise on her face. Although I will give the botox it's share of the credit!
borokat
Oh, it just kittens and flowers around here (sarcasm)! I found out yesterday that my OBGYN has decided to take a leave of absence (he has been having some personal problems), his nurse practioner has gone to the Virgin Islands, and some random nurse from the hospital saw me yesterday. My Dr and I originally had a plan that at this point: if it looked like I was ripe then we would induce. I do have the conditions for induction now, but since I HAVE NO DR., they are taking a wait and see approach, and just hoping that I go into labor naturally. If there is still no plan this time next week, at my next appt. I am going to blow a gasket! I was so bummed and hungry yesterday, I went to McDs and ate an ungodly amt. of food. This baby is going to be 12 lbs.

Topic: What are we all going to do during DP's summer hiatus?
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