Am I the only one who thinks Alex boinked that guy in the ocean? We know she's on birth control now, so why not? And she has raging teenager hormones. It does make me wonder if Dr. Phil set it up for her. And why wasn't there more emphasis ON marine biology in the segment? Learning to scuba dive is NOT marine biology. It's a fun diversion. I thought she was going to be interacting with a marine biologist to turn her on to the career.

I liked DP at the beginning, especially when he was on Oprah, but now he grows more like Maury every day. And, no, that's not a compliment. It's all about the hysteria and the shock value, all with the supposed intent of "helping people."

Was I having a blond flashback or don't FUF1 live in Florida. One would think that if Shill was really concerned with encouraging Alexandra in her pursuit of marine biology as a career that he could have come up with a day trip for her to someplace that actually studies marine life instead of on a scuba trip to the Caymans. But then, I didn't understand the whole Alex and Katherine unchaperoned trip to Dallas so they could meet Depends-Boy's carefully coached SMU students.

Okay, which TwoPPER is going to try to convince Shill's people that they should be FUF3 - and then take the story public that they shammed him?! Damn, I knew I should have had kids - you think if I dressed my cats in children's clothes I could convince them that they were just very hairy children?!

Oh great -- a whole bunch of new kids will be dragged into the media circus. And I'm sure they'll fare just as well as Alex and Katherine have. [/sarcasm] Why doesn't DP just collect all the problem children and send them to Happy Hill Acres?

ITA about the marine biology thing. When I was a kid, I wanted to be an astronomer because I loved going to the planetarium and learning facts about the planets. When I learned that I'd have to study physics and higher mathematics, I changed my mind pretty quickly. (Science just wasn't my forte.) Somehow, I can't see Alex taking her mind off boys long enough to take classes in molecular biology, chemistry, geology, calculus, etc.

Maybe DP should have sent her to this site.

For some reason, I was actually liking FUF1 on Friday's show. Not to the point that I would want to know them, (God, no!) but after the whole incident between Erin and Alex was over and everyone was back in the studio, somehow they all seemed to let go a little bit and even looked *gasp* slightly human.

Everyone always tells Dr. Phil that they don't think that the footage he shows is really representative of them. Then Powertrip-Phil (that would be PP nickname #2) gets on his high horse and says something like, "Oh, yeah? Let's see that footage again, " etc. etc. But, really, how many times have we seen footage of FUF1 just sitting around and having a *good* time. I can't imagine that their entire lives consist of screaming and belittling each other. They must get along sometimes, but we never do see that. It's just not good t.v. I'm definitely not saying that there's no problem with all of their relationships, but somehow they all actually looked more like real people towards the end of the show. There was some laughter, some smiling. I didn't even know that Erin's face could DO that!

Let me preface this whole comment by saying that I watched the ep on Tivo several days later after having put in an extra 20 hours of overtime on a project that had a deadline this a.m., so I was probably slightly delirious.

Oh, and, I was about to jump in on the MIL bandwagon, but after Maggiegault and PorkFat, my MIL isn't SO bad. Not that I'm going to like her anytime soon or anything....

Where, oh where, is borokat. Oh where, oh where can she be?

*hangs head in shame* I have to admit, I went through a "oh, I wanna be a marine biologist" phase as a teenager and it was pretty much based on the fantasy quoted above. However, I actually took a class in the subject once I got to college. Let me tell you, we did not study cute little dolphins. It was a lot of sea cucumbers and algae and it was BORING! No offense to those who REALLY love the subject, but it was a huge wake up call for me. I can understand how a 15 year old could be so delusional, but how could Dr. Phil have fallen for this?

Still no progress, fangums. MrB just emailed me to see if I am feeling any pains- I don't think he is having a good Monday and is ready to come home. Actually I feel pretty normal- about to head to the grocery store. Checked the pantry and wheat bread and dog food is just not going to cut it.

I was pleasantly surprised by the show today- until DP jumped all in those girls who had not lost enought weight. Whaaaa???????? I think that losing any weight period is damn good and these chicks had lost 30-40 lbs. each. To browbeat them and tell them it is not good enough is just going to feed into their food issues even more.

After all, the really super obese guy had not lost hardly any weight compared to how large he is (800 lbs.). They said that he had lost 70 lbs. I guess this comment is dependant on how long he has been on the plan. The other obese people in the family had lost small amts of weight compared to the challengers (the fiancee had lost 20 lbs.) and DP did not jump their case. I guess I am wondering if they are truly following the DP plan where apparently if you do it right, you can lose 200 lbs a year!

ETA: I just registered MrB here so he can give you an update when the munchkin actually decides to come out.

I don't understand how Danielle lost 170lbs in 10 months. It almost makes me want to buy Shill's book. I have a post-pregnancy pooch I can't seem to get rid off and maybe I'll get some freebies if I write into the show about my weight loss.

Don't do it, Dr.Cher!!! Here's what Dr. Phil's book will teach you: Eat less. Exercise more.

I just saved you $20.

I think I figured out this whole "Alex wants to be a marine biologist nonsense".
OBVIOUSLY, she was watching a rerun of "Seinfeld" and saw the episode where George claims to be a marine biologist.
The story of him saving the whale by retrieving Kramer's golfball SO intrigued and enamored this young girl, and the rest is history.

So what's next? .... she's going to claim to want to be an architect?

And she has obtained employment at Vandelay Industries!

borokat, we'll be waiting for news!

How can PP tell everyone weight loss is for health and body-image reasons only, then say "look at youuuuuu" and spin them around even before he asks if they're feeling better. And "genetics is crap?" Also controversial. Of course, if you plateau after losing "only" 30 pounds, you better be on a few different medications, 'cause only then is it explicable.

And I thought it was absolutely criminal that he said to (oops, forgot her name) WLC lady that she "should" have lost 177 pounds by now. In 9 months?

Why did a 13 year old girl get a $2000 shopping spree? Good lord, give her $100 bucks at each of the two stores and she'd be ecstatic. The prom dress for the tall girl was not custom made, my daughter almost bought it for her grad, and it's one of that company's standard bridesmaid designs, all they had to do was make it in her size and alter it to fit her. I think it was $239. Canadian plus alterations.

No teenagers should be given indoor exercise equipment - what a crock.

No kidding. I don't just understand why the whole competition thing, other than it supposedly makes for better TV. It's like Survivor: The Fatback or something.

Hee. One of my best friends is studying to be just that. I thought it sounded really cool and ambitious, and so did he. Now he's always complaining about bio and chemistry classes that he has to sit through and what a complete bitch they are. They do go on diving trips all the freaking time and take trips to FL too (from TX). He seems to like it but from what I understand they don't make that much money considering all the schooling they have to go through. Eh.

I don't think gentics is crap, its made it a hell of a lot harder for me to lose weight. I've had to work my ass off to get to the weight I'm at and damn proud of it. I do think what he means is that many many people use it as an excuse to stay overweight and complacent about it.

I want to win prizes! Bah.

JR Labrador:

Ok, this made me snarf couscous.

DrCher:

Noooo! My grandma followed his diet plan and gained 3 pounds. She was so mad, she ate a bag full of jellybeans.

lls59:

I concur! I mean, how dare she lose weight at a sensible rate?? She's making DP look bad!

Gah! I nearly threw my dinner at the TV when one of the WLCers said that Weight Watchers failed because it's not a lifestyle change while DP's program is. Every single piece of literature I've gotten from WW has said it's not a diet; it's a lifestyle change. The WLCer just didn't stick with it.

I don't know; when I was an overweight teen, I was too embarrassed to go out and run/jiggle my way around the neighborhood, or **gasp** go to a gym. I finally got a treadmill and haven't looked back since. Everyone is different of course, but I know for me, having indoor exercise equipment was great. Maybe I should've just gotten over my embarrassment, but that's easy to say, hard to do at 15 when you feel the whole world is judging you. Besides, indoor equipment just sits there mocking you as you sit on the couch playing on the internet, so its a good motivation tool!

Borokat, is MrB "having a case of the Mondays?"[/"Office Space" quote.] BTW, hope you are as comfy as can be!

Genetics is not ALL crap! PP has to eventually give in a bit and admit this.

Alex would probably do well as a Club Med waitress, not marine biologist. Frankly, she just does not seem that scientifically apt or academically motivated. She doesn't even seem to posess a real curiosity about the rest of the world and how it works- in short, a very average 15 year old.

Katherine needs a vat of whoopass opened up on her, stat!

Katherine is the girl version of Dewey from Malcom in the Middle.

I was also bothered by Dr. Phil's berating the women who hadn't, according to him, lost as much weight as they should have. Shaming doesn't seem to me to be an effective motivator. Especially for the woman who had lost her sister and learned of her mother's Alzheimer's, he could have encouraged her to refocus on her own problems in a gentler way.

As for Alex wanting to be a marine biologist, I'm assuming she selected that off the "Careers to Impress People" that many high schoolers pull out around graduation time. It can be annoying to see many teenagers tell people they are going to major in pre-med or pre-law when they obviously hadn't done any looking into what going into those fields means. For example, I just sat through a baccularaute service where Sally Senior said she was starting junior college to become a radiologist.

I was watching the WLC show, when I realized that, contrary to the week's previews, no one was going to be sent home for not losing enough weight and suddenly I knew that Dr. Phil had LIED BY OMISSION! I burst into tears and my son and husband ran to comfort me with their chins trembling and their lips all stretched out. My son shouted at the TV, "Dr. Phil, you need to just stop!" It was really awful, but on the brighter side, I'm expecting he'll send me to the Canary Islands to get over it!

---Borokat hasn't posted today. Fingers crossed!

Percolata, that cracked my shit up!

Anyone else squicked out by RRT Donna being so much taller than Vinnie? I mean, its one thing to be an inch or two taller than your man, but crikey, she's just towering over him. I'm thinking thats the real cause of the affair.

It's still amazing to me that some people who want to be marine biologists are surprised by the amount of biology they have to study. If you don't like science, and if the way living things work doesn't fascinate you, why would you want to go into that field of study?? Sorry, officially leaving it behind now.

I watched Dr.Phil yesterday for the first time in a while and I thought that the whole "lose too little weight and Dr.Phil will stop supporting you" was crap. He said that he had refused to 'leave behind' at least one of the girls who were supposed to be cut off, and was said he was reluctant to let her go again.
Also, I thought it would have made more sense if the person with the most weight loss was set free ... because they could do it on their own - like graduating, or being set free from the post-surgical recovery ward. Or maybe because they'd reached a percentage of their total ideal weight loss, or their target weight. Instead, Dr.Phil has to grapple with which person, who is having the most problems with losing weight, to drop. Silly.

You know, while I was watching PP harass the WLC women who hadn't done enough yesterday (and noticing that 3 of them had also had some serious psychological shit to deal with which I doubt can be handled by a Phil's Book of Platitudes from the Wal-Mart), I was again getting bugged at him over his discount of their 30, 40, 70 lb. weight losses over 9 months. If he claims that Ann Marie (I think) should have lost 144 lbs. in 9 months, that's an average of 16 lbs. per month. And I know several of us have discussed that any sensible non-fad diet we've ever heard of said to lose weight and keep it off, you're looking at an average of about 8 lbs. a month or 1-2 lbs. per week. I want to know if PP is going to put his money where is mouth is and put an ironclad money back guarantee on his WLC that if a customer does what he outlines they will absolutely lose 16 lbs. per month for as long as they do it or they get their money back, no questions asked. Bet he'd back off the "slackers" PDQ if he'd have to commit to his product to that level. Maybe he'd also be more accepting of the idea that everyone's body is different and loses weight at different speeds. Of course paying out all those guarantees might constrict Robin's Botox Budget and we wouldn't want that happen.

Oh, and did anyone else want to scream when he was pimping the Dr. Phil Newsletter - MAKE IT STOP!

I was pissed off when Erin used the fact that Alex was on birth control as a slam against her. Bitch. Also when Dr. Phil looked at Erin and said "You're the mother" I wanted to scream "But Alex is the mother too" I agree with the poster who said they suspect Erin is doing the majority of the Nathan raising. Alex cannot be a "normal" sixteen year old because she is not a "normal" sixteen year old. She is a mother and that needs to be impressed on her in a really big way. It just doesn't seem like Alex is getting what she and Nathan needs, parenting skills ect. She has totally unrealistic expectations of her role. And have I mentioned Erin=Bitch.

Loved the Seinfeld references, Drummouse and Lispunk. I have to laugh every time I hear Vandelay Enterprises! Maybe Alex can check with the NY Yankees for openings too!

Being a marine biologist is a phase a lot of young folks go through. Get this, my husband wanted to do that--but the priest at the Catholic high school he was at messed up his paper work to the college in Louisiana. So he went to a college close to home. Right. Same way his older dog, Pepper, jumped out of the truck and disappeared, when his parents were driving back home one day. Right, and Pepper is happily living out his days at a farm now.

Ok, get this, my 15 yr. old son, out of the blue, says he wants to be a Marine Biologist--after having living all his life in either Colorado or Nebraska. Yeah, lots of experience there!

Of course, that was two weeks ago. Now he's onto environmental lawyer. Or writer. Or professional hockey player.

As for MILs? My MIL and I have something in common. Neither of us likes the other! `Very passive aggressive crap I get.

...that and nothing good can come from marrying a 5' tall cop named Vinnie. He fits every single stereotype for being a jackass, not that Donna is any better though. Hey Donna, why don't YOU just sleep with the other woman and GET OVER IT!

Yeah, but when they sit down there's not near as much difference. Then they stand up and whoa!

My sweet, darling, good-hearted 7-year-old wanted to buy my Christmas present with her own money so her daddy took her shopping. And what did I unwrap on Christmas morning? Dr. Phil's weight loss recipe book crap. "Because I know you watch Dr. Phil and I know you're on a diet." And I just smiled and said "thank you sweetie!" And nobody can tell me Christmas isn't about Jesus because he wept that morning, people ... the baby Jesus wept.

I am still here! 7 days until the due date, I have not been on the computer today because LilB is getting to be a butterball and I am having some back pain. The computer chair does not help.



I am just squicked out by Donna. I find her to be a sad human being. She was totally deserving of the DP smackdown. And what is all this about Vinnie did not sleep with the twinkie, he just kissed her? And stayed in her guest bedroom? Whatever. With the hell she is putting him through, I hope he did sleep with twinkie. And ya'll know how anti-adultery I am! People who are that self-centered that they would expose their children to that level of dysfunction, know they are doing it, and not caring enough to stop, really piss me off. Apparently, DP too!

To all the mommies here, can I ask, how did you know you were going into labor? A little off topic, but you guys have been really good to me when I get off on a tangent, and I want this baby out of me!

Okay, I take it back that she's not that much taller when they're sitting. I hadn't seen today's show yet. I remember during the initial studio session that from the back they seemed much closer in height while sitting, but I guess Vinnie was just sitting on a phone book then.

Borokat, I didn't know. It wasn't regular, the contractions didn't last a minute and they would get down to five minutes apart for 30 minutes (not an hour), then back out to 20. The doctor finally sent me to the hospital, assuring me I'd probably get sent right back home for false labor, and I was 8 cm. Water never broke for any of them (3) but each time the menstrual like cramps were the biggest indicator.

ROFL!!! Hee!!!!!!

and a THICK phone book at that.......... HaHa!

Oh crap, I just realized I was posting under my husband's name. Oops.

Also, hee, marillion! I was just teasing MrB the other day about not letting them take away his red stapler!

fangums, I guess I am wondering if everyone could tell it was coming or if they were just walking around feeling fine and them, bloop- here comes baby. I have bursts of energy and then an hour later feel like total crap.

Hee! When you posted under your husband's name, borokat, my first thought was, "Wha--- he's pregnant? What are they, seahorses?"



Wouldn't it be awesome if DP had played the occupational hypnotherapist from Office Space?



Heh, no shit, LostGirl. Hey, at least Alex is studying comparative anatomy. (nudgenudgewinkwinksaynomore!)

Oh my goodness, that is priceless! It reminds me of all those social situations when Dr. Phil comes up and I have to remember that I am not surrounded by TWoP'ers. I just sit there and bite my tongue, feeling the bile rise in my throat. I am so glad we all have each other. The outside world just doesn't understand.

borokat, wish I could tell you! Lil' Hex came five weeks early via an unplanned cesarean, so believe it or not, I'm a little jealous of what you're going through. The wait, the anticipation, is this it??....

Donna: glad to see the old DP back and getting back to basics. "You can either move on OR you can get divorced. You can't maintain the marriage and continue to dwell on this at the same time." "But... but.." Repeat, ad nauseum. It almost sounds like Donna wants to keep her marriage as long as she's allowed to make her husband's life a living hell. And he, no prize in my eyes but hey maybe to someone, has shown her he has options other than sticking around in hell.

Reminds me of my old relationship. You have to stay with me so that I can remind you every day how untrustworthy you are and how unhappy I am. Uh, no, actually, I don't!

Watching the RRR episode:

Me: Arrghh!! Why the hell is Robin in there counseling them? She doesn't have a degree, she's not a therapist!

Mr.SnarkKitty: Maybe she stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.

Nah...... Unless that Holiday Inn would offer a "Spa Package" and designer boutiques and 24/7 pampering and for Robin..... bet she can't remember the last time she had to "downgrade" and spend the night in one.

I felt like I was getting the flu and just generally felt like a big fat ball of crud-no contractions or pain until I had the pitocin in the hospital. Good luck!

Anywho, I had a Dr. Phil marathon yesterday (5 episodes on the TiVo) and had a few comments:
-I only watched a little of the Survivor: Fatback episode, because I HATE seeing him pimp his own "method" of weightloss. However, those kids deserve props for losing weight.
-the RRR was a trainwreck. My hubby said "Fat people aren't interesting, but couples on the verge of divorce are." Hee. What really chaps my ass is that Donna can't let it go. For cripes sake, Vinnie should've slept with the girl, seeing as he was going to have to live through hell with the wife! I think they either need to get a divorce or she needs to forgive and forget because what they are in now is not a marriage.
-Amy and Dave, "The Anatomy of a Divorce". Fighting over Tupperware and the vacuum? Gah. Boring. NEXT!
-FUF #1-Maybe Alex is a slut. Marty is an emotionally unavailable, self-centered prick who married a controlling, shrill woman. Sounds like a recipe for a divorce to me.
Oh, and Katherine needs a big fat dose of SHUT THE FUCK UP medicine. She's just jealous that Alex is getting all of the attention-even though it's negative attention. They all need to get the hell off my tv.

FU Divorce Family: They are fighting over the tea bags? the TEA BAGS?

I bet Ann the lawyer is sitting at home giggling with glee that she does not have to deal with these horrendous, morally bankrupt assholes anymore. Amy takes the cake. If this is what she lets national television see, just imagine how she acts behind closed doors. For her to scream, "pedophile" just to get back at her husband is a new low. It is worse than the "mentally disturbed" charge from last week. I know that she cannot even get her head out of her ass long enough to think about her OWN CHILDREN, so she is not going to think about anyone else, but when she said pedophile, she made a mockery of anyone that has ever been sexually abused. If every spoiled, hateful, ugly housewife cried pedophile just to get ahead in her divorce, how could we ever separate them from actual victims? Sickening. Absolutely revolting.

The pettiness has sunk to a new level. It is worse that FUF1 and FUF2 put together. Fighting over the laundry baskets is hilarious. Bitch, just go to Target and buy you another laundry basket. Its like, 9.99. I am so glad that my Mom and Dad did not act like this. My dad took the van, a dresser, the stereo, and the dog. I think he took his tools too, but there was little fuss. These people were divying up a frozen turkey in the freezer! Its mind boggling.

Last week, I hated his atty. I thought Suzanne was a vindictive shrew. But this week, even though I still think she is vindictive shrew, I am wanting her to take Amy to the cleaners. I think that Amy made it personal for Suzanne, and now she is going to stick it to her. I just feel sorry for Amy's new atty.

Borokat, I've been in labor twice and both times, the contractions started in my sleep and woke me up. They didn't hurt at first, just a tightening in my belly every five minutes. I'm excited for you!

I hate the Anatomy of A Divorce shows. That lady...grrrrr! "There was never any jewelry in this marriage!" Uh, so what? Is her husband required to give her jewelry and if he doesn't, she just goes and drops 3k on a bracelet to "treat" herself? Yuck, that is insane.

Edited because I can't spell.

My water broke while I was washing dishes. No warning! The funny thing was I thought I had spilled water on the floor. I didn't have any real painful contractions until seven hours later in the hospital. Good luck, and don't forget to ask for Demerol.

Topic: The Divorce Divas are sad human beings, but damn they are funny! I just told Mr. Star about the turkey division and he says "The white meat's mine!" {;"D

borokat, Batboy came 11 weeks early and was heralded by my water leaking (it doesn't always gush). Batgirl was 4 days late and I'd been having painful Braxton Hicks contractions for 3 weeks. The day I actually went into labour, I woke up at four in the morning with an aching back. It was decidedly different from the earlier pains. However, I was crabby and figured that nature was just toying with me some more so I went about my day (which included a 45 minute bus ride with Batboy to his school and home again).

But the contractions became regular and more frequent and it's a good thing that Batguy ignored me when I told him to stay at work a bit longer because by the time we got to the hospital, they were every 5 minutes.

When you think you're getting contractions, note the time each one starts. If you're in labour, they'll start to become regular.

And note to the other poster who's baby was 5 weeks early - I can sure understand the stress and anxiety of having an early baby but let me tell you, the ninth month sucks! I hated it! I'm glad I only went through it once (Batboy is now a hale and hearty 8 year old, so I can look back on his birth with a lighter heart).

[I've been lurking lots on this thread. I love the snark]

A girl after my own heart! Natural be-damned, I want DRUGS! Kidding. Sort of. They may offer you Demoral or Stadol; YMMV, but Stadol can be a "down the rabbit hole" experience. I never want to do that one again.

batmom, I just didn't find the emergency c-section to be the joyous birth experience that was advertised (bwa ha ha!) to all expectant moms. Then again, I wasn't one of these folks that "loved every minute of my pregnancy", either. One minute, we were doing a test, the next minute I was on a gurney, thirty minutes later, baby was whisked to NICU, and I'm going, "hey.......uh...."

Oh topic? Dividing the turkey: these people only want to hurt one another at this point. I'd LOVE to be one of their lawyers (cha-ching) and run the bill every dad-blamed time they called.

Dr. Shill show is such a waste of time--unless you like getting upset.

Same baby situation here, Hexele. My son came 5 weeks early.

My water broke while I was in the shower at 7:30 a.m. --I wasn't quite sure--it just felt different than urinating.

Anyway, I call the dr. and it's a Saturday--so they say walk around for while.

Finally about 12:30 they say go to the hospital for a check.

First check for aminotic fluid--nope, go home. Wait, let's do a second check after you walk around about a half hour. Ok, it's aminotic fluid. Get admitted to hospital. Walk around halls for a few hours.

Finally contractions start about 4p.m. Like very severe cramps. About 6 p.m.--remember no doctor all this time--nurse checks baby's position--with her hand! Owwww. Ok, baby in breach position, must do emergency Caeserean asap. About 7 p.m. Doctor appears. Baby in distress. Must do it now!

All of a sudden everyone around me is in fast motion. Anaesthesiologist (sp?), nurses, someone kept asking medical history at least 3 times, etc.

In surgery, the doctor give s thebest news ever: We are going to give your something to stop the contractions! Whoo hoo! Thank you Jesus!
And epideral also. After that it was no pain at all. Very easy. (I also healed easily and without much pain too. Easy pregnancy as well.)

Baby born about 8 p.m. I threw up from anaesthetic. Baby ok. Happy birth day!


Oh, I hate Dr. Shill.

Borokat
And considering all the strange and weird people we've seen on the PP cake walk, I believe that says it all.

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In case we haven't already got Borokat thinking that she's probably having the baby right now and doesn't know it:

I woke up with a steady pressure in my lower back. I was sure it was just gas pains. In the morning Mr. Perc took me to the hospital because he was worried, while I was still thinking, oh well, maybe they'll give me something for the gas. Strapping Boy was born an hour later.

I'm watching the current "John hates Amy hates John" divorce spectacular. All I can say is, what a couple of horrible asshole morons.

Why is it that parents don't understand that fighting in front of the children is like punching them in the face? What the hell.

One unneccessary but persistant question: what the hell kind of accent is that on John's lawyer? I keep trying to pin it down, but then it dodges me. She sounds like a German-Australian-stroke survivor.

Hi - long time lurker to the boards but this is my first post...and I can't believe it's in response to a Dr. Phil show.

With the exception of Amy's attorney, what a bunch of raging psychopaths.

What I would like to know is how someone can toss around the word 'pedophile' and the earth didn't come to a screaming halt until it was settled? Either he is and that is the ultimate deal breaker in terms of custody or (and I think this far more likely) she just threw down the vilest card she could make up which should also be a deal breaker when it comes to custody. There is nothing you could possibly say more inflamatory if you are trying to vilify your spouse. Why even PP (great nick btw) let that go is beyond me. All this lip service about him being on the side of the kids, and he allowed that to pass without resolution? It's in their best interests to have their father alluded to as a pedophile on national television?

Amy is just flat out crazy and John with his passive aggresiveness is no better. He doesn't have to hurl insults personally - he's paying his lawyer to do it for him. Did anyone else notice how twitchy the lawyer was when called on her crap? Ick. About her accent, I'm not a linguist but it sounded british to my ear, albeit atypical.

Amy is a friggin' psycho hosebeast! Not that her soon-to-be ex is any prize either - I mean, he chose to marry her. He strikes me as a real passive-aggressive loser.

She is such a miserable bitch!

Man, do I feel sorry for their kids. Why the hell do people like this insist on reproducing? Don't we have enough screwed up people already here?

John's lawyer sounds like she's from New Zealand to me.

I think she's from the same place as the Clergyman from the Princess Bride.

"Love, twue love..."

That's a good guess. I was going to say Australia but I think you're right. And of all the guests on today's show, I like her the most. She's evil, but she's just the kind of lawyer you need if you are divorcing Amy. I love that she is the only one who is standing up to Amy and calling her for what she is-a greedy, selfish bitch, and an unfit mother to boot.

Not that John's any prize himself, but he has better taste in lawyers.

Borokat, the closer you get to the full moon, the more likely BoroBaby will be born! That's a fact! More babies born near the full moon than at any other time. Unfortunately, no moon tonight!

Suzanne really sounds like she's from England and that accent is NOT high Brit. She's a devil, either way. She's played into JOhn's passive-aggressive behavior and dives in like a pitbull. Bitch! I like Amy's new attorney, Greg, and I think he's exactly what she needs. Ann seemed almost afraid to confront Suzanne...good move, Amy! Sic 'im.

It was interesting to hear the applause from the audience. Clearly they are on Amy's side (as I am). And why shouldn't she offer to rent a room to her dear ex-hubby? It could help pay the bills and he'd be there for the kids. It's a hell of a lot better than rooming for a week at a time in a lousy hotel room. And, it most likely wouldn't last forever. I'll bet he takes the offer. Altho' I wouldn't want my children around this emotionless piece of crap!