borokat
May 7, 2004 @ 9:51 pm
Yeah, he definitely looked like a drag queen, which is a shame, because they seemed like good folk.
I tell you, though, Stacy is starting to chunk up with FUBaby #6. And Chris too. I would venture that he has put on about 25 lbs since this mess started. Which doesn't surprise me when your skanky wife refuses to cook you dinner because you did not call her 12 times during the day, and you are probably eating all of your meals at McDonalds just to get away from the bitch.
I had stopped watching FUF2 because they really toasted my crackers and high blood pressure is bad when you are 9 months pregnant, but my Dr. office was playing the show when I was in yesterday (update for Loudfan and everyone: LilBorokat aint anywhere close to coming out, he knows a good thing, and is staying put as long as he can, to the annoyance of Borokat). So I got to actually hear Stacy spout her nonsense, and it was nice to see all the other pregnant women in the waiting room roll their eyes when Stacy would talk. Especially when she was talking about Chris not having the balls to have an affair, like it was a freakin badge of honor. Should we commend her? Admire her for being so morally bankrupt and a piss poor mother- having affair after affair? That comment made me believe that all the waterworks are a lie to gain sympathy, and she is absolutely not sorry for her affairs. She believes these poor bastards that married her DESERVED to be cheated on.
chainey
May 7, 2004 @ 10:36 pm
I get what they're saying about feeling like the opposite sex, but the guy looked ridiculous in women's clothing.
I just got a mental picture of a new show, "EXtreme Swan." Love to see that surgeon work his "feminization" procedure where it can do some good.
DR. AL
May 8, 2004 @ 12:25 am
WOW!
For once, I actually approved of the way PP ran the show and conducted himself.
MTF Grandma Jamie was so sweet and demure (Even if she did look like a toootal D-Queen!) and (s)he and the wife looked really cute and happy together. Did you all notice how nervous and shifty-eyed PP (and some of the usual bimbos in his audience) got when she started talking about how she wanted to be in a relationship were her whole mission in life was NOT just about pleasing the husband? I'll bet he was afraid that Robin and the other southern belles might start getting some ideas about cutting off their corsets, burning their bras, and scheming to escape up North and finding refuge with those Evil Feminist Yankee Women. Not to worry though, although her marriage is a total sexist firetrap, and she has a severe feminist case of down syndrome, Robin's cage is so guilded and plush (and Dr. Phil allows her so much latitude) that it probably doesn't even begin to cross her mind that she's being mentally oppressed and infantilized by a man who has a need to dominate women.
Yuppie Couple with Gay Husband and Tearful Wife was very interesting. To qualify as a true bisexual, in my opinion, you have to be either interested in both sexes on a 50-50 all the time basis OR you need to shift to majority interest in one over the other at some point. Anything else is you ignoring your dominant sexuality and trying to artificially amplify the less dominant side. Most people, consciously or unconsciously, have some degree of attraction to both sexes, but in most cases there is a decided tilt in terms of which you desire and respond to. There are few true evenly divided bisexuals amongst men (there are more so among women) even though, as I said, everyone has trace elements. You never really lose the core visual and physical attraction for men, it's established quite deep inside you why ever it exists; and there are many possible reasons why despite the simplistic claims that many mental health professionals and gay activists tell you. Trust Gay Dr. Al on this one!
Anyway, I suspect from observation and personal experience that if you spend the majority of your life feeling your LGBT impulses naturally coursing through you then it was and always will remain dominant (it certainly has in my case). After years of men, I recently did find a woman whom I adore. She is very beautiful and men do go nuts over her, but it's her mind and personality that draws me in more then sexual attraction. She's probably the first woman I ever clicked with but she's a very rare specimen because normally I have no interest in women as anything other then friends and I still feel more attraction to men. Hence, my take on the situation.
PP should have told them that they would need to redefine the marriage in a way that could work but that it didn't necessarily need to end. There are three options. They stay together and he periodically fucks around she cries about it until she learns it has nothing to do with her and gets a grip, or, he swears off men (Like that will ever work!), or, they divorce and remain amicable and find new spouses. PP was a little too old fashioned in his thinking on this one. Couples can be happy together despite odd twists of sex and fate and marriage as MTF Jamie and wife have proven. It's the love and commitment that matters most.
Mother & Son Couple were kind of disturbing. A 25 year old man who hooks up with a non-fertile much older woman (who is thaaat muuuch older) in all likelihood, has mother issues. It was considerate, and suprisingly feminist for PP to point out that no one bitches when it's the reverse.
However, when the situation is reversed, it's usually because the younger woman is looking for either a daddy or an established and powerful older man with resources and connections to provide for her and their offsping. Men in turn go for younger women for status, or if they want offspring, and they'll go for reeeally younger women if they themselves are emotionally crippled and need someone either at their own level of development or whom they can control.
There are many evolutionary biological reasons why the younger woman/older man set-up works and people just roll their eyes at it but ultimately accept it whereas people tend to recoil when they see a younger man with an older woman. However, all that being said, young and older man and woman pairings can work if they either really are devoted or the age difference isn't as big as it is in this case. Jane Kaczmarek and Bradley Whitford and Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins fit this profile but keep in mind that both of these women were still able to have children and did with their younger man mates. The judgement Mother & Son Couple received is not fair, but it's in response to our natural instincts.
On the whole, a GREAT EPISODE, although a part of me wonders if Dr. Phil is really as open-minded as he presented himself to be.
robbie
May 8, 2004 @ 1:39 am
I wonder, though, if DP would focus so much on this if he weren't speaking to people who claim to have a religiously- based ideal of marriage. I say this becuase, as a semi-fundamentalist, I've sat through lots of sermons and Sunday school classes about the male and female roles in a marriage. But just becuase I buy into them thanks to my religious beliefs (my pastor is female, btw, and totally a feminist-for-Jesus) doesn't mean others would. I hope DP is making that distinction and talking all this "be a man" business because its how he knows they want to operate their marriage.
I did think that perhaps DP was focusing on "traditional" gender roles specifically because the couples he uses it with would be more receptive to it. If that's true, fine, I guess - whatever leads to healing. But I still think empowerment based on who you are is far more deeper and permanent than empowerment based on societal gender roles.
DR. AL
May 8, 2004 @ 8:10 am
I think all men and women need to be capable of functioning within their traditional and opposite sex gender roles if they are to be fully developed human beings. It's as bad to be an underpowered sissy/crybaby as it is to be a patriarchal/matriarchal oppressor. Men need to learn to be more like women and women need to learn to be more like men.
masked_spangler
May 8, 2004 @ 9:11 am
I just got a mental picture of a new show, "EXtreme Swan." Love to see that surgeon work his "feminization" procedure where it can do some good.
Well, that's a rather tasteless thing to say.
As for the DP handling of this, I was impressed---but Oprah did it better. It was topical for me because we still have one borther who doesn't know about our relative (he's only 9 and does not even know this family member existed in the first place, never mind that she has changed anything) so I was curious to hear what DP would say. I thinkt hat the family's handling of it is more important re. keeping the kids okay with it than anything. They CAN handle the actual fact of it itself, but if the family is all freaking out, they will assimilate that mindset.
And just FYI but drag queen is not the proper terminology for what you guys are referrring to. Drag queens are a completely different thing altogether (although it can be easy to get the terms confused). The proper term would be that Jamey is "cross-dressing." And if you don't think it creates a successful effect, she is "not passing." But a drag queen is something completely different.
Maybelline
May 8, 2004 @ 9:47 am
Did I miss something? Why are y'all calling Dr. Phil "PP"? What does that stand for?
Why did Dr. Phil keeptelling the gay/straight married couple that they needed to "reevaluate their relationship" instead of saying "get a divorce"? They kept asking him "but...how do we do that?"
How clueless can you be? You married an admittedly gay man. He has had four affairs since the wedding. "Are we kidding ourselves?" Yes. Yes, you are. What kind of marriage is that? I can't believe they had to go on Dr. Phil to figure out that they don't need to be married anymore.
ETA: Thanks DR. AL.
DR. AL
May 8, 2004 @ 9:54 am
PP = Patriarch Phil
(Which is precisely how our beloved "good ole country boy" -- who has a Ph.D. -- has been thinkin' and behavin' as of late with his vile alpha male and sexist ways and his neverending determination to make all men grovel before him and all intelligent women to dumb themselves down lest they outsmart him in front of a crowd.)
As for the Drag Queen comment, anyone (man or woman) who doesn't look "naturally" feminine after make-up, hair, and clothing can be written-off as looking like a Drag Queen (even if they aren't one) which as Masked Spangler has pointed out is something quite different.
I wonder if PP actually wanted to do this show or if the producers made him?
I actually sent the show an e-mail praising them for this show but lecturing them about about his treatment of Marty, Stacey, the FUF's, and Robin's sexist schlock.
talullahbabe
May 8, 2004 @ 9:56 am
And just FYI but drag queen is not the proper terminology for what you guys are referrring to. Drag queens are a completely different thing altogether (although it can be easy to get the terms confused). The proper term would be that Jamey is "cross-dressing." And if you don't think it creates a successful effect, she is "not passing." But a drag queen is something completely different.
She can't even be said to be "cross-dressing" as DP said she'd had the complete surgery making her a woman. So, she's a female with all that implies (with the exception of a more dominant personality with which she was born and raised and lived for most of her life).
DR. AL
May 8, 2004 @ 9:58 am
Yes but the TrannyGranny still has very male looking features. If they want to make her looke more feminine then it's time for (yet another) Extreme Makeover.
Drummouse
May 8, 2004 @ 10:42 am
Yes but the TrannyGranny still has very male looking features.
This show was really bordering on Maury territory with the extremes.
TrannyGranny almost didn't seem real because she/he was SO male looking (and yes, very drag queen-ish, whatever the definition). What about all the hormones, etc that one is to take before the surgery and the physical changes that come with that?
Her/his voice was still very much a man's voice and she just flat out did not look the "part". I don't know, all that made it distracting from the point.
As for the gay couple.... Grace needs to let Will go live his gay lifestyle!
She needs help as to why she is being so co-dependent in not wanting to let go of this thread of a relationship, however unhealthy (physically & emotionally) it may be.
As for the young / older couple.... that boy has issues in his deep desire for a mother figure. More power to them and may they have MANY happy years together... however, he shouldn't be too surprised that they look more like mom & son (actually I was thinking grandmom & son).
All these stories would have been a better episode of "Dr. Siggy"... Freud would have a field day with these folks!!
Maybelline
May 8, 2004 @ 11:12 am
he shouldn't be too surprised that they look more like mom & son (actually I was thinking grandmom & son).
True. It wasn't like she was a hot, young-looking 53. She could have passed for 63. Watching them kiss was a little icky.
And I may be the only one, but I think a 53 year old man who marries a 25 year old woman is creepy, too. I don't really think there's a double standard, when the age difference is that vast.
DR. AL
May 8, 2004 @ 1:35 pm
Word, Maybelline, word.
You can't get around the ick factor when there's that big an age difference even if the woman looked like Cheryl Tiegs.
borokat
May 8, 2004 @ 1:57 pm
True. It wasn't like she was a hot, young-looking 53. She could have passed for 63. Watching them kiss was a little icky.
This reminds me of a blurb I read in People yesterday about Celeste Holm (famous stage actress who also has been on All My Children for several years). Holm, 85, married her 41 year old opera singing boyfriend recently. I had to read it twice, I was trying to envision that couple. And for the record, I have that same squicky feeling when I read about Tony Randall or Larry King.
loudfan
May 8, 2004 @ 2:14 pm
True. It wasn't like she was a hot, young-looking 53. She could have passed for 63. Watching them kiss was a little icky.
My dad called me yesterday after the show and said, "I'd love to see her birth certificate!" He thought she was totally lying about her age and that she's at least 10 years older than she claimed to be. I agree with everyone whose reaction was, "Ick," although I have the same reaction when I see a 70-yr-old man marry a woman half his age. And even though that's a lot more common than the opposite, I'll bet a lot of those May-December couples still have to hear the same type of comments about "you and your daughter." Heck, my grandfather was only 15 years older than my grandmother, and they got that reaction occasionally (which made my grandpa go ballistic).
I agree with DR. AL, though -- the show was well-done. I thought it was going to be totally Springer, but it was actually a lot less exploitative than the FUF shows.
katymo
May 8, 2004 @ 4:36 pm
I also thought the older lady looked much older than she said. My mom is 45 and she looks nothing even remotely close to that woman who alleges she's 53. Granted that's a good 8 years apart, but nobody ages that fast except for Jerri on Survivor and Hilary Duff. Did they ever say if the woman was rich? I was too busy being grossed out. Could've been an Anna Nicole thing.
percolata
May 8, 2004 @ 6:44 pm
I felt very sorry for the woman in the Gay man / Straight woman couple. I thought she was honestly, completely in love with him and he was just stringing her along and using her in order to have the best of both worlds - a hot sex life with other men and a conventional home with children, at the same time. Why should he let her go? She's a comfy friend who will bear and raise children for him, keep his house clean and his meals cooked and cover for him at all the family reunion and corporate picnics. All he has to do is tell her he loves her once in a while and keep her hoping he'll return her physical feelings some day.
I've seen a few gay men use up a woman's youth and beauty this way, only to dump her once the kids are grown and he has the money and confidence to come out. I wish DP had been blunt with her. She needs to forget all those Harlequin Romances where faithful love is rewarded in the end, when the handsome brooding man finally turns to her. He's not a Prince. He's unbelievably selfish and could be endangering her life.
DR. AL
May 8, 2004 @ 8:23 pm
I partially agree with you Percolata but most women who fall for gay men have practically made a career of doing it over, and over, and over again hence the term Fag Hag.
And this chick was in some serious denial if she wasn't getting a bleep on her GayDar before he confessed.
As one who thinks we all should get as much as we can, as long you're being safe, honest, and loving I don't know that the configuration of the marriage matters that much.
I nearly had to call the paramedics from laughing about your lovely snark about her Harlequin Romance Ambitions.
bellemmers
May 10, 2004 @ 2:16 am
I'd like to chime in with everyone who rolled their eyes at "53" for that woman. My mom is 53. mr. bell's mom is 56. Both of them are vibrant, youthful, beautiful women. Both of them look a good ten years younger than Mrs. Age Gap. So either they've aged abnormally well, she's aged abnormally badly, or she's full of crap.
I'm usually a big proponent of Love Is Great And Can Be Found In The Weirdest Of Places, but these two skeeved me out. I've seen some age gap couples where they really do seem to be on the same wavelength, but these guys just seemed like such a mismatch.
Not my place to say, but I do wonder what their respective families thought of this.
Esser
May 10, 2004 @ 4:10 pm
Today's parenting show: I was ready to slap the first two moms they profiled, so I was glad they showed a mom that was doing well with her daughter and her toys.
Couple things: first, as a mother of a toddler that likes to spray his food everywhere, I thought Pee Boy's mom dressed far too nicely at home considering what she was dealing with. In the home video, she had this nice bell-sleeved blouse on, and another time she had on a nice sweater-oxford shirt combo. If my kid was running around peeing on the floor and me and everything else, I'd probably be wearing hazard gear! Kidding. But at least grubbies. I bet the kid is just bored too.
Basketball kid's glance at Dr. Phil when he suggested deflating all the basketballs had me flashing back to Sam when he was fired from the Apprentice. Evil.
Gemmadoll
May 10, 2004 @ 4:26 pm
Phil had a lot to say to the heavy spending mom about the uselessness of most toys. Then he gives the little girl who complains about her mom's toy"locked box" more toys. You tear my heart out, Phil.
Maybelline
May 10, 2004 @ 4:32 pm
I was glad they showed a mom that was doing well with her daughter and her toys.
I was, too. It was nice to know that someone actually followed Dr. Phil's advice to good effect. Of course, that Mom definitely had good parenting skills to begin with, and if it weren't for Dr. Phil, she would have figured out a way to make lil Bailey clean her room anyway.
Unlike the first two Moms on today's show, who will never stop spoiling their "little angels" no matter how much advice Dr. Phil gives.
Dr. Phil should have been tougher on the basketball Mom. Suspended ten times and in danger of flunking third grade? Someone is failing here, and it's not just the kid. That Mom needs to be setting boundaries, following through with consequences, and rewarding good behavior. I don't think bringing her little brat to Dr. Phil to hear his NBA heroes is going to make her start being a parent to her child.
lmwilker
May 10, 2004 @ 4:43 pm
Stacy knows Chris doesn't have the balls because she has them taped up in a box beside the bed.
borokat
May 10, 2004 @ 8:24 pm
Oh, how I love Stupid Parents shows. Mom #1 with the Little Angel was especially a dumbass. If naked LilBorokat ever took a shit in the middle of the living room floor, I just don't think I would find that as adorable as this dimwit does. The underlying theme to 99 percent of these parents is always: Your kid is not the boss, stop treating them like everything that they do is precious and wonderful, step up and be a parent, not their best friend.
I say that hoping that I can be the disciplinarian that I need to be to raise a successful LilBorokat. I am not as tough with my shepherds as I need to be and MrB does discipline them more. But I look at my dogs as being perpetual babies and I try to train them to be obedient and well- behaved, (especially since the buggers are closing in on 60 lbs each and are STRONG) but I don't have to worry about them growing up to be deadbeats or crackheads.
I think that the basketball kid is that 1 percent exception. I don't think that basketball is problem, I think that his addiction to playing basketball is just another symptom of emotional problems. Did they mention if he had a father that was active in his life?
Stardancer2001
May 10, 2004 @ 8:50 pm
Sigh... I'm sorry, but Little Pee Pee Boy would have received a swat on his naked bottom if he peed on my floor. After about 3 of them, he'll think of an alternate place to whizz. He's only doing it because his parents thought it was so damn cute. Peeing on the television would have gotten a severe no-play-with-any-toys-for-3-weeks punishment.
The naked thing... no problem! Give him naked time, like Dana Carvey did for his sons! However, only in the comfort of home. Once he goes outside, all bets are off!
The basketball kid: Yes, he may have emotional problems. But I think he is mainly suffering from an overly permissive mother. If you are flunking 3rd grade, all outside activites (basketball or whatever) end until you bring those grades up! If that kid speaks disrespectfully to his mother, he'll do that to anyone. I'm surprised that the basketball coach even allowed him to play after mouthing off like that!
katymo
May 10, 2004 @ 9:02 pm
Eeeeww pissing and shitting all over the house is totally unacceptable behavior! I wanted to shake the mother, that ain't cute! It seems nearly ever kid goes through that naked phase. One time when I was about 10 years old I went to visit my cousin who was about 7 or 8 and he was going through a major naked phase. I was one shocked little girl to say the least, but it was in their house, no harm done. He sure didn't go to the bathroom during it.
LeBron JR. should've been told NO basketball a looong time ago. 3rd grade was one of the easiest grades for a bad student like me to pass. That's just sad. Like DP I seriously doubt he'll make it to the NBA, I'm sorry but doesn't he know God is in the bath tub when it comes to these people? Little asshole.
Maybelline
May 10, 2004 @ 9:07 pm
I'm surprised that the basketball coach even allowed him to play after mouthing off like that!
I'm not. They said he was the "star" of the team. And, unfortunately, all the crap the Mavericks were telling him about needing to study in order to get drafted into the NBA? Bullshit. I suppose he needs to study just enough to stay eligible in high school (but lots of schools find ways to pass star athletes), and then if he's good enough, colleges will want him even if he's dumb as a box of rocks.
If the mother or the coach were interested in training him to be a mature, responsible adult, they wouldn't put up with his smart mouth. If he's that cocky and uncontrollable in the third grade, what's he going to be like in ten years?
talullahbabe
May 10, 2004 @ 9:31 pm
what's he going to be like in ten years?
We'll be funding him in prison, most likely, especially if his duh-grinning mother is still in charge and out of tune.
What DP SHOULD have insisted on was self-discipline and manners! DON'T be mouthy to your Mother, first of all, and any coach who would tolerate a "Shut Up" should be washed out. Once this kid said that to a coach, he's out of the game...I don't care how GOOD he is. The little shit was over the top.
Major basketball playing is NOT a good thing for kids to aspire to. Yes, the
possibility of playing in the big league might get them on the road to grades and very possibly a college education (a job!) but after that.....if the kid's a shit, he'll always be a shit. His mother had better take charge now and stop being impressed and bullied by a 9 year old.
HEY MOMMA! Corral that brat and rein him in to reality!
SorchaRei
May 10, 2004 @ 10:29 pm
The first two moms on today's show just pissed me off. They both thought they were so cute, and that their kids were cute cute cute, too. They need to stop grinning at DP, and start stepping up and being good parents.
Stardancer2001
May 10, 2004 @ 10:41 pm
I almost forgot about that second mom who was spending her family into the poor house! I'm going to blame her husband for that one. There is no way in hell Mr. Star would ever allow me to spend $3000.00 for one child at one time! That is serious overkill. They're on the way to creating a spoiled princess that they will never get rid of because no sensible man with short money would want her.
Hubby should have grown a spine and cut up the credit cards. "I want to give my child everything I never got." A poor way to raise a child, if you ask me. They will expect everything to be given to them for the rest of their lives.
maggiegault
May 10, 2004 @ 11:56 pm
Borokat, I don't know you from Adam, but I for one can't wait for the inaugural appearance of LilBorokat in this world.
DBolt
May 11, 2004 @ 6:53 am
Was it just me or did it seem like the lady whose daughter saw the porn video in the other car, maybe had went a little too in depth with her birds and bees talk? She told Phil that she told her "that sometimes married people like to wrestle around and sometimes they do it with their clothes off". Ok fine, so why is she asking about where the baby comes out? I thought he missed the boat on his advice on how to stop her from asking about "that movie we saw" all the time. I will bet that when she asks, mom gets very attentive and starts giving her "the speech" again. Little kids love it when they find a way to get this kind of attention. She should tell her (very calmly and almost off handidly) that we have already discussed that and there is nothing more to say, so we aren't going to talk about it now. I am not saying never discuss sex again, but just stop talking about and reinforcing the importance of this episode (which is kinda what Phil was saying earlier about not making a scene when it first happened). I bet mom wasn't as calm and cool as she said she was either when talking to the cops.
Oh and by the way. MOVE THAT HAIR OUT OF YOUR FACE! You are on national television.
stinkylulu
May 11, 2004 @ 8:29 am
About yesterday's goofball parents: I'm rooting for PeePeeBoy on a certain level... I just feel for kids when their parents clearly got all clever when choosing names. I was listening to the show, thinking of PeePeeBoy aka -- i thought -- "Kaiser" ... I was all, "WHO would name a kid after a disastrous german emperor? OR a dry roll responsible for awkward moments in dental hygiene?" THEN i went to ThePPMan's site and discovered that PeePeeBoy is actually named:
Kycsar -- wtf? Now I'm rooting for that kid to pee wherever he wants... A lifetime of misspelling/mispronunciation awaits him...
percolata
May 11, 2004 @ 8:32 am
The Pee Pee Parents were the prize winners of all the "parents who refuse to parent" that we've seen.
Due to a break in the regular rotation, old Percolata had to watch the pre-school group during church on Sunday. (What a nightmare! Those kids are fast!) At one point a little boy spotted an old stain on the carpet and said, "Looks like somebody peed!" They all laughed for the next ten minutes. I was glad because it saved me from trying to remember what actually happened with Daniel in that lion's den incident, but really, parents are supposed to get them past that phase, not encourage it.
Gemmadoll
May 11, 2004 @ 9:31 am
Kycsar--wtf?
And his little brother Fuhrer.
PissyMissy
May 11, 2004 @ 10:53 am
Kycsar--wtf?
Yeah, that'll look great on a business card. I work with a woman named Tikela, and even our boss was like "that's a name never destined to have VP after it." I'd call him Kyscar Sosay all the time just to punish the parents.
El DeMarge
May 11, 2004 @ 11:02 am
"Kaiser" ... I was all, "WHO would name a kid after a disastrous german emperor? OR a dry roll responsible for awkward moments in dental hygiene?"
Maybe they meant it in the "emperor title" context? Like naming your kid "King" or "Caesar?" Not a very subtle name, but it doesn't necessarily come from that one German ruler. And at least it's not Hitler.
JR Labrador
May 11, 2004 @ 11:24 am
And at least it's not Hitler.
Or as they would spell it: Hihttlur.
talullahbabe
May 11, 2004 @ 11:33 am
I bet mom wasn't as calm and cool as she said she was either when talking to the cops.
Exactly! From what I read of the incident, she was hysterical and I imagine she was waving her arms and yelling.....so the kid was in the car with the windows closed. No doubt she saw and heard everything her crazy mother said.
This woman is one clik away from Munchausen's Syndrome.
As for the little girl with WAY too many toys? Is DP nutz? He gives her MORE toys!? How is that supposed to enforce discipline?
masked_spangler
May 11, 2004 @ 11:44 am
Kycsar? There is just no reason anyone should ever do that. I knew a girl once named Cotapaxi, and she's spent her whole life explaining to everyone she meets that it's a volcano...
And I have a great response to all those people who love their kids so much they want to give them everything they want: it's so great that you love your kids that much---because nobody else will love them since they will be huge brats. I did 4 years of camp counselling and another dozen of babysitting. I know what two-year-olds raised this way become. On child-rearing, I agree with Dr. Phil because my mother raised my brother and I on the same principles---you are not trying to raise a child, you are trying to raise an adult. And when they grow up to be independent, self-sufficient and responsible citizens, they will love you for raising them sensibly. You can make a kid know that you love them without treating them like the centre of the universe. And really, nobody else is ever going to treat them that way. So be a grown-up about it and raise them to understand how the world works.
marillion
May 11, 2004 @ 12:33 pm
Or as they would spell it: Hihttlur.
BWAH!
As I've said before, I'm expecting a baby in late July. I belong to an online Expecting Club and it is ALL I can do to curtail my snarkiness when the other moms-to-be have polls where you vote on which name you like best; the names are awful! Everyone wants to have a 'K' and add 'Y's and extra letters and crap, creative spelling, ick.
Kaiser-gracious me! Out here in California, Kaiser is the not-so-great insurance option.
Concerning Lebron,Jr- what a wimpy coach. My ex-boyfriend was a sociology professor, and every year coaches would call him up to ask that he pass dumb athlete students. The ex was an unsympathetic non-athlete, so the requests fell on deaf ears.
Freshly Ground Coffee
May 11, 2004 @ 1:37 pm
Kycsar -- wtf? Now I'm rooting for that kid to pee wherever he wants... A lifetime of misspelling/mispronunciation awaits him...
"Gimme a
P ! oops!"
Mom was enjoying the attention of Dr Phil. 'Aren't I cute for being such a wretched parent?' Yeah, little boys have accidents when they are potty training, especially during nakey time. But peeing ON something is a power play on this little guy's part, and he is SO the boss in his house.
(Shameless Brag: My recently 3 year old is on his second week of Big Boy undies w/ no accidents! Insert
Hallelujah Chorus here!)
Cotapaxi
The first thing that comes to my mind is Kotex & Maxipads. Gee, thanks Mom and Dad.
eta: I'm a Loyal Viewer now! Whee!
Hexele
May 11, 2004 @ 3:44 pm
As I've said before, I'm expecting a baby in late July. I belong to an online Expecting Club and it is ALL I can do to curtail my snarkiness when the other moms-to-be have polls where you vote on which name you like best; the names are awful! Everyone wants to have a 'K' and add 'Y's and extra letters and crap, creative spelling, ick.
Congrats again, Marillion, and I'll bet we were members of the same group. That online poll was worse than morning sickness, especially when the mommies got all irate when people criticized the names they chose and
asked nameless faceless strangers to critique online. It's like they wanted an award for being so clever -- yeah, the first grade teacher is going to love to see little Kkayyttlinn come in.
Back on topic: is it just me or did they just add Jay-butt to the opening montage before Dr. Sleaze-stache (tm Survivor) says "let's do it!" ??
Aside: Baby Hex is named Alexander. Not Zander, not Aleyx or Kalex.
DrCher
May 11, 2004 @ 4:04 pm
Friday:
A Family Divided: Erin Explodes at Alex
Dr. Phil sends Erin and the girls to the Cayman Islands so that Alex can begin to pursue her dream of becoming a marine biologist. But what starts as an innocent trip turns into something very different when Alex wanders off in her bikini with a boy. Erin loses control, telling her daughter she "acts like a slut" and continues to make "asinine choices." Dr. Phil has advice for this feuding family.
That is exactly what the show's producers wanted.
Isaboe
May 11, 2004 @ 4:36 pm
Erin loses control, telling her daughter she "acts like a slut" and continues to make "asinine choices."
'Bout time
someone told her.
lispunk
May 11, 2004 @ 5:30 pm
Monday's show was a welcome break from the "No chance in hell of solving our problems" bunch of people that have been on lately.
I do not know where they get these men who have no spine when it comes to their wives or children. They just seem to sit there, blinking, saying that they agree with what Phil says, they just need to have it told to their wives that their way is not the best way. Perhaps you should have gotten a clue when you refinanced your house, paid off the credit cards, and she kept using the credit cards to buy talking shopping carts?
The mom who kept buying stuff for her kids seemed to be shopping at a consignment store (it looked like Once Upon A Child to me.) I'm surprised she didn't use that as an argument-"But it's 60% cheaper than retail."
I don't remember where I read this, but future parents are advised to put a serious title in front of their children's potential names. Supreme Court Justice Kycsar? I don't think so. Although that kid may someday sue his parents for allowing footage of him tearing off his diaper and peeing to be shown on national television.
ladyveg
May 11, 2004 @ 5:43 pm
I'm pissed about today's show. I wanted to see those couples beat the crap out of each other. Why build up the big ol' slap for three weeks, and then we don't get the satisfaction of seeing them smack each other? I didn't want to see the damn hug. Why the hell do they think people watch this show?
I'm confused about the format. The retreat was only 2 days, right? I thought that was BS--no professional can decide on the fate of a marriage in two days, and neither can Dr. Phil. So now they're in the studio too? Am I stupid? (Oh, boy, opening myself up there.) How does this work?
katymo
May 11, 2004 @ 5:43 pm
Rene is the biggest asshat! I bet you he's abusive, that whole give me more sex, I like how you clean and do dishes (fucking gag me!) basically holding her hostage in the house was all the proof I needed. They are definitely not equals. I'm glad DP called him out on that but I would've liked to hear more yelling. Damn.
I liked that the 2nd (?) couple seemed a lot better and actually seemed to be using what they learned. I hope it lasts.
SiameseCatLady
May 11, 2004 @ 6:19 pm
Or as they would spell it: Hihttlur.
Best creative spelling
ever!
If my name was Kycsar, I think I'd pee on the TV also - and I'm not a 3-year-old boy. How the fuck do people come up with this stuff?! Damn that hooked on phonics!
You know asshat that PP usually is, a lot of times with these one specific childrearing problem shows, I think he actually does pretty good. Can't say the same about FUF1 or 2, but I want to see Erin try to feign surprise that Alex picks the horizontal mambo with some boy over the educational trip PP gives her and spending time with Mom and Sis. Wonder who kept Nathan during all the trip?
JR Labrador
May 11, 2004 @ 7:06 pm
Kaiser-gracious me! Out here in California, Kaiser is the not-so-great insurance option.
Yeah, with that first name I thought for sure their last name must be Permanente.
Oh and Rene is what you call a pig.
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