I can't believe I missed a Texas Rollergirls event with Mike Judge!

(whacks self in head repeatedly)

Judging by that title, it sounds like that not only is Connie going to have a growth spurt, but she going to be taller than Joseph.

Speaking of Joseph, are he and Bobby still friends? They havent been in an episode together all season so far.

I'm watching the tainted beer episode. It has one of my favorite visual gags; Peggy's swagger as she flashes her Alamo beer ID.

Also a great "Yup" gag, right at the start, when Hank Dale and Boomer are standing around beerless waiting for Bill and they start repeating themselves.

I love "Yup" gags.

"That part is over now."

"Why?"

"Chicken thigh."

* sniffle *

OK, I have Season Two on DVD now. What are the easter eggs?

Yeah, I think Connie is going to have a growth spurt and be taller then Joesph too. Speaking of which Joesph has been really side tracked this season. Add in his testorome attitude and beating up Dale and then that look with Hank. He hasn't really done much and poor Bobby, only kid on the show who never changes.

According to Zap2it, a new episode tonight and no fear of football pre-emption!

http://www.dvdtalk.com/eggs/read.php?ID=231

I haven't been watching King of the Hill since that christian/rock/punk ep. Not for any particular reason I just haven't. So there's a new ep tonight? Great! That whole growth-spurt thing sounds cool. That's what I like about KoTH, the kids aged, until a couple years ago, or am I just imagining that? Didn't they start out in the fifth grade and work their way up to the eighth?

And I got another little question, is anyone else getting entirely sick of Bobby? I'm holding out for the episode where everytime Bobby opens his mouth, he gets killed.

Ok I'm not gunna read all 60 pages of this thread so if this has already been said oh well. Did anyone know that Hank's dad and Con or however you spell it are voice acted by Artie from Pete&Pete?

If you're not going to read the thread, at least don't announce that you didn't. It's rude to those of us who do follow the rules, and doesn't make us want to answer your questions.

Just when you think Bobby can't go any further and Hank can't be more embarrised about something. We get money issues. Truth is, I've really wonder how Hank and Peggy make it when she's been a subsitute teacher for what amost 20 years, you think she would of found full time statis by now. As for Hank, just when he thinks he's teaching Bobby a valuable lesson, he goes completely half ass about it.

I don't mean to nitpick, but would a propane man like Hank really let his wife cook a steak on the stove? Maybe his second puberty clouded that part of reality.

I don't mean to nitpick, but would a propane man like Hank really let his wife cook a steak on the stove?

Hank's not opposed to using a stove. Grilling with charcoal, however, is grounds for divorce. "What's it going to be, Peggy--charcoal, or me?"

Truth is, I've really wonder how Hank and Peggy make it when she's been a subsitute teacher for what amost 20 years, you think she would of found full time statis by now. As for Hank, just when he thinks he's teaching Bobby a valuable lesson, he goes completely half ass about it.

As we have seen, Peggy is incompetent, and not the brightest soul. I think this explains why she's not a full-time teacher. Hank and Bobby--yeah, Bobby really does need to go to a reform school or something. But Bobby needs to do goofy stuff to keep the show going. The main theme behind King of the Hill is straight arrow Hank Hill and his difficulties with his loopy friends and family.

Love Bobby's "bling-bling" fantasy sequence. More to say, will edit it in tomorrow when I'm not so tired.

Yet Bobby's saving grace is that he really does care what Hank thinks about him and wants his approval. With their fear of money talk (Hank & Peggy would rather Bobby see them making out than paying the bills!) it's no wonder a kid with an imagination like Bobby's would make up a story about Hank being rich. I loved the kid talk about crazy rich people (yay Joseph! yay Connie!), and how at the end, Hank decided to keep the jet ski for awhile, and when given the chance, Bobby actually grasped the concept of debt/high interest payments.

(And John Red Corn dumping his older woman for a chance to hit up Hank for seed money for his holistic old folks home was hysterical).

John Redcorn becoming a gigolo was both funny and disturbing.

Can't blame John Redcorn on having long-term plans for a holistic center! And yes, a career as Gigolo is a bit Jarring.

Nah. The stunt with the credit card was bone-headed, but he's not a bad kid. And Hank would never send Bobby to reform school; he'd view it as admission that he'd failed to bring him up right.

You seem to have forgotten that Hank DID send Bobby to a reform school - or at least he tried to.

Anyway, much as I loved the fantasy sequence, I thought this episode showed some serious danger signs. For starters, it is a bit of a retread of the great 2nd season episode where Bobby goes to work for Jimmy Witchard at the NASCAR track. Not totally, since the main plot there was getting Bobby to see when the time is right to stand up for himself against an abusive boss, and on the flipside to get Hank to trust Bobby a little more instead of being blinkered by his own work ethic, but still - they've done the "Teach the boy the value of a dollar" bit before.

Secondly, the fantasy sequence itself is a bit of a danger sign. One of the really charming things about KotH is that it hasn't veered off into bizarre/stupid subplots like Family Guy and latter day Simpsons. But the Simpsons started on that route by having these kinds of fantasies play out in the minds of the family - especially Lisa and Homer. When audiences reacted very positively to the psychedelic whimsy, it began to take over the show until we finally ended up with Jockey Gnomes and rhinos hatching from eggs (also Homer eating potato chips to "The Blue Danube, so it wasn't all bad, but you get my point.) Anyway, although KotH has done stuff like this before, with Hank passing out from varnish fumes and Peggy dreaming of Hell, this seemed different somehow. It was hilarious, and totally in character, but I do hope the writers can keep it to a minimum.

That said, the end of the show, contrasting the spoiled rich kid with the newly humble Bobby was great, especially the short bit where Bobby offers to shine the Jet-ski for the brat, and it pushes Hank right over the edge. If there was ever a time for Bobby to remember his self-defense training, that was it. What a little shit that kid was!

This episode (which I thought was OK but not up to the similar "Life in the Fast Lane") was actually another leftover from season 7. And the writer of this episode, Etan Cohen, always seems to write in fantasy sequences; he also wrote "Vision Quest" (Bobby as a panda) and the first part of the Japan episode (the guys' fantasies in John Redcorn's sweat-tent). Maybe because he used to write for Beavis & Butt-head.

Oh yeah, it was definitely good to see John Redcorn again, but I sure thought he'd be too sensible to believe rumors that Hank is secretly a millionaire. I'm kind of glad to know that he's up to his old...um...tricks.

kwnyc

That's what struck me about Bobby's bling-bling fantasy. Right before they dove into their adjoining pools, Hank says to Bobby: "Well done, son".

Did anyone catch the KotH reference in last night's Simpsons? It happens when Bart and Lisa are struggling for the remote at the beginning of the ep. One of the channels they flip to has a Hank sound-alike saying something about Bobby and propane and his urethra. Can't remember the exact quote but it gave me a chuckle.

When I saw the name Etan Cohen in the credits I first thought one of the Coen brothers was a guest writer for that episode. I would love to see a Coen Brothers written KOTH.

I'm sitting here grinning and giggling at the thought of Peggy speaking the line "That rug really held the room together."

Castallack

HA! I did but forgot about it until you reminded me. The other night my local UPN affiliate ran a Simpsons rerun that parodied the KotH opening sequence.

"There's propane in my urethra, Bobby!"

Of course, Hank & family actually show up in the Simpsons ep where Homer's coaching pee-wee football ("We drove all the way here for this?")

Talking about loose ends, isn't there a herd of wild emus on the loose in Arlen?

We've gots tons of loose ends on King of the Hill. What the hell Peggy's mother was so belittling of her, we know why with Cotton, how he was raised. Where is Peggy's supposed brother and father? What about Bill's folks or Dale's mother? Why is Peggy so obsessed with Mexico? What really got Hank into Propane, how the hell has Mr. Stricklen stayed in business this long, when he is a complete dumb ass? What about the non exploding La Bomba fire cracker in Mexico? Where did Mrs. Kahn go, last time we check she was still living with the family.

Peggy's mother is just plain mean, same as Cotton. Their vicious parents is one of the things that Hank and Peggy have in common.

Bill's a transplanted Louisianan, his parents probably went back there.

Peggy's folks are in Montana, except for her brother who is living on an offshore oilrig in fear of his ex-wife (Luanne's mom.)

Peggy isn't obsessed with Mexico in any way I can tell.

Hank got into propane because Mr. Strickland charmed him away from Jeans West.

Strickand Propane stays in business by gouging their customers.

The firecracker was a dud.

Minh is doing fine, although she misses her husband on his long commutes.

Wasn't Hank working at a clothing store when he was hired by Strickland? And so his love of propane came from working with it rather than the other way around? Or am I remembering it wrong?

I think Readster was asking about Khan's mother, Leoma, not Minh.

(BTW, Readster, Khan is Khan's first name. His last name is Souphanousinphone.)

"So Mr. Kahn*, are you - uh - Chinese or Japanese?"

* I think that's the right spelling

Oh, right, Laoma. I figure she's just in that shadowy netherworld of guest characters. I would kind of like her to be a recurrer, though.

Painter, you're correct about the spelling of Kahn's first name. Or so the official site claims.

[QUOTE]Peggy's mother is just plain mean [QUOTE]

I have always assumed that while Peggy was treated poorly by her mother, her brother was the favored child, the "goldenchild", if you will. I wonder if we'll ever find out if this is the case.

Heh - come to think of it, that might make a good episode: Mother Platter meets Cotton Hill and the two bond over their crushing dissappointment in their own children - but when this starts to extend to their kids' choice in mates (ala "Hank's Wife"), they suddenly become fiercely protective.

Yeah, I like where this is going.

We know that Peggy's parents split up a while ago just like Hank's. Just wondering if we'll ever see Peggy's brother or her father. I mean we met Dale's. And what I really meant to say was what is Peggy's obsession withe Spanish culture and language. She is always trying to prove she knows the Spanish like the back of her hand when she clearly doesn't. Of course she's been shown she can't but she still goes on.

Well, that's just ego. And of course, she's not nearly self-aware enough to realize how badly she understands spanish, as shown in her 'kidnap' episode, her 'interview for Mrs. Arlen' sequence, etc. etc..

I don't know what the plot of it is, but Peggy's mom will be coming to visit again in season 9 in an episode called "A Rover Runs Through It" (all I know is the title and the fact that Peggy's mom visits in it and that it will air in season 9).

And Peggy knows her Espanol is perfect because she can roll her "r"s. Listen! Rrrr! Rrrr! That's the key to perfect Spanish.

Again? Has she visited before?

I agree that one of the more subtle jokes about Peggy is how she's always so careful to roll her r's and say "Mehico" instead of "Mexico", but her Spanish is so terrible. One of my favorite episodes is the one about Peggy's crappy Spanish, when she kidnaps the little Mexican girl by mistake.

Last time Peggy's mom visited was during the second season when she was Bobby's secret Valentine which was way to creepy for even King of the Hill. She's been on the phone several times, belittling Peggy more then we've seen Cotton do it to Hank's face. Thanksgiving episode with the smoke turkey is one example.

No matter how many times I see the Mexican courtroom scene where Peggy defends herself in Spanish, I always LMAO.

And, as to Peggy's mom, she also showed up belittling Peggy in the flashback to Hank & Peggy's high school days, where Peggy tries to cook Hank a dinner, but is saved when Hank contracts mono from a soda cup and can't come over to eat. And that's his story, and he's sticking to it. Well, until Peggy comes up with conflicting documentary evidence and a confession from the girl involved. Hey, there's a potential story: Peggy runs for D.A. based on her investigative and deductive abilities. And her Spanish.

Aren't Bill's parents dead? I thought he mentioned it in the episode where he goes back to play for the highschool ffotball team.

Yes, Bill's parents are dead. When he rejoined the Arlen High football team, he asked the kids at the pep rally "where's the party tonight -- whose parents are out of town?" Hostile silence. "Hey -- my parents aren't even alive! Party at my place!"

All quotes guaranteed inaccurate.

Don't remember who said Peggy's parents have split up, but my question is how do we know this? I don't remember it being said.

The next episode is on Jan. 25 -- "Ceci N'est Pas Une King of the Hill": Peggy designs a sculpture that is picked up by an art dealer from Dallas, who publicizes her as an uneducated hillbilly.

And here are some of the episodes we can expect in the rest of the season (note: turns out "Girl You'll Be a Giant Soon" has nothing to do with Connie)

"That's What She Said" - A new co-worker (Ben Stiller) makes Hank so uncomfortable with his off-color jokes that Hank decides to sue for sexual harassment.
"Cheer Factor" - Peggy becomes coach of the high school football cheerleading squad, and devises an aggressive new cheer that leads to her being accused of a hate crime.
"Apres Hank, Le Deluge" - Arlen experiences a flood.
"My Hair Lady" - Luanne and Bill both get jobs at a fancy hairstyling salon. (Guest star, Christina Applegate)
"The Redneck on Rainey Street" - Kahn decides to give up overachieving, and starts hanging out with a redneck gang (guest stars, Tom Petty and Trace Adkins)
"The Unbearable Lightness of Being Hank" - Hank is suspected of abusing workman's compensation. (guest star, Johnny Depp)
"Girl You'll Be a Giant Soon" - Hank and Luanne protest a no-propane rule at the Texas State Fair Grill-Off, but campus radicals take over the protest and turn the whole fair into an anti-globalization rally. (Guest stars, Eljah Wood and "Dax" from Punk'd).

Now I get the title of "Girl you'll soon be a Giant." Refers to being on top of the world and controlling others.

Uh-oh - the outsider art episode ("Mom and Pop Art") was The Simpsons' last hurrah - in my world, at least.

Whoa, I like the idea of Peggy running for office. That's even better than the idea we were kicking around a while ago to have Buck Strickland run for city council.