Does anybody else like this character and the actor portraying him. I'm interested to see how he develops.

I think Glee has done a good job so far of introducing other recurring characters such as the Principal. If only they were more developed.

I actually do like him - he's a dope, but he's kind of a dope with a heart. He might not have had the most couth way of inviting Emma to the tulip festival, but he did say what needed to be said. Besides, I snickered at his decription of her options and why he was a good catch (particularly when he said he was a minority and couldn't be fired).

He's turning into a more sympathetic character than I'd originally expected him to be. Full credit to all involved (actor, writers, director, producer) for finding some depth in what could have easily been a one-note character.

This week's episode really endeared Ken to me -- he's sweet, in a doofy way. The little exchange he shared with Emma before she broke the news about Henri having to drop out of Acafellas ("Did you see me dancing?" "Oh, is that what that was?")...she doesn't deserve him. I kinda hope she'll give him a chance, for real, and discover that she likes him after all.

Yeah, I really like him too. Because if I imagine his high school experience, I picture a football player in a non-glamorous position who really loves the game but never gets the glory or the girl. And it would be nice for a nice guy to find love.

I'm hoping on the Ken bandwagon. He really is a good man and everyone is walking all over him. His proposal was just so perfect. Truthfully, I never thought I would say this but I think in this episode, we saw that Emma is not good enough for Ken Tanaka. He just needs to buy a second pair of long pants and find someone new!

I feel for the guy. Because you just know that he's going to end up getting really hurt in the end. He really loves Emma. Too bad she's so hung up on Will (or the idea of Will) that she can't see a really good guy right in front of her, despite his affinity for ill-fitting t-shirts and shorts.

I don't think of it that way; the problem is not that he deserves better than Emma, specifically, but that he deserves better than to spend the rest of his life with someone who doesn't love him, generally. And he knew what he was getting with her going in, which makes his devotion rather more pathetic than admirable. I do sympathize with him, and I'm glad that they took the risk to Emma's character of making him a decent guy, and one who seems to genuinely understand her, but not loving him back doesn't make Emma a bad or inferior person by any stretch of the imagination.

Taking this to the Emma thread.

I know that they've been dating. The different revelations (her struggle with watching the news, "Blood Diamonds," etc) seems to lead to the fact that they spend a lot of time together. She has told him enough about her, things that she wouldn't say to anyone.

I am getting some inconsistency with the "touching" aspect. In "Vitamin D," Ken has said that he hasn't touched her beyond the wrists. However, in "Acafellas," he said that his girlfriend can't get enough of him while he's been in the group. What does that mean?

And suddenly Emma's gag-reflex comment is all that I can think of. I...would really rather not think of that.

I took it as Emma was excited while watching Will and Ken thought she was hot for him, which is why he threatened Puck in the locker room. At no time did I think Emma and Ken had ever touched.

I'm not saying I condone Emma accepting his proposal, because that was a really stupid move, but firstly, I consider Ken an extreme doormat for still going through with it after she basically said she didn't want to acknowledge him publicly, and secondly, I'd say the part where he suggested to Terri that they should develop something on the side to get back at Will and Emma flirting makes him come out of this a lot less squeaky clean than most viewers seem to think. He's about as good (or bad) as everyone else, really.

I think Ken is just so head-over-heels in love with Emma that he's not thinking logically about the proposal. All he heard really is that she said yes. It is kind of sad, but I think it's less of him being a doormat than him being so infatuated that nothing other than the fact that she said yes matters.

As for the proposed affair with Terri - I never felt he was overly serious. It was kind of his caveman persona - not that he expected her to actually follow through with it. It was more of a guess we should try to get even because that's what people do, not that that is something that Ken was really into.

I disagree. If you're in love with someone, you don't ask someone else you seemingly barely know to have an affair with you. I think the only reason he's so desperate for Emma is because she's a pretty shiny thing he can't really have. Those tears in Terri's office seemed pretty contrived just to get sympathy.

His reactions to me seem pretty harmless, to be honest. The affair thing seems to be a throwaway line as it was said once and then dropped. It's not like he was aggressively pursuing it. I think he loves Emma in his own way. The way he observes her likes and dislikes and pays attention is sweet. If she doesn't like him, she needs to tell him. Firmly. Guys like Ken are dense, but they eventually get it if you firmly tell them you are not interested. She's using him as a fall-back position.

In the pilot Emma came out and told Ken that all the times she had turned him down with various excuses were really because she wasn't interested in him. This is the same scene where Ken asks what it's going to take to get Emma in his hatchback and when Ken wipes spit on Emma's car door handle. Yes, Emma should have stuck to her guns, but Ken wasn't taking no for an answer, and was getting more and more obnoxious about it.

Okay, you are all right, Ken needs to find someone who will appreciate him. The further this goes, the more depressing and unfunny it gets. (See also: Terri's fake pregnancy) Another thing Ken needs to do? Not get upset about seeing Will and Emma together, dancing, flirting and acting adorably when Ken is the one who came to Will with the idea of dance lessons. Why were Emma and Will practicing when its Ken and Emma who will be dancing together? I know they needed to do that for the plot to work but it was clunky and awkward.

Just saw the second episode, and frankly, I really dislike Ken. Just, his speech to her about why she should date him... The "I'll put up with your crazy ... And you're not going to do any better in Lima," parts are taking advantage of Emma's OCD tendencies, and both taking advantage of and encouraging her low self-esteem and fear of loneliness. In order to get her to agree to a date. Ken can be a very nice and attentive boyfriend, when it suits him. But in order to get to boyfriend stage, he was very nasty, selfish, and emotionally manipulative.

I don't like that Emma's continuing to flirt with Will even while engaged to Ken, but that's on general principle, I don't feel sympathy for Ken at all. Given how he got Emma into the relationship in the first place, I think he's getting what he deserves.

Could we please rename his thread:

Coach Ken Tenaka - 74 Flaws as of Yesterday

?????

I stopped really feeling for Ken with regard to the Emma situation after "Mash-up," but I'm glad he found some self-respect and broke up with Emma instead of going through with it and waiting for her to eventually leave. It makes me respect him a little more.

I was very happy for Ken last night, No one deserves a loveless marriage.

Agreed, EmmaFrost. I'm glad he was the one who left her. I don't want it to become a "Ken's such a bad guy and Emma's a wilting flower," though.