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TWoP Bayliss
Age: 31
Hometown: Spring, TX
Occupation: Human Resources Representative
Marital Status: Married
Birthdate: 6 Aug 1976

Libra is a staunch Obama supporter living in the heart of Bush country. She attended Rice University where she earned a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science and Economics. Because of her strong personality, Libra has always stood out in the group at predominantly white schools. She has been married for seven years and has three children: a 4-year old girl and recently gave birth to a medical rarity... 4-month old twins, one black and one white. Her husband is comfortable staying at home with the kids and will be rooting Libra on all the way.

She has a relationship with her mother but doesn't know her father and has only met him one time that she can remember. She considers politics very important and has voted in every election for which she was eligible. She played volleyball in the NCAA Division and loved being a college athlete. She loves to shop, enjoys running, likes to gossip and hang out with family and friends.

Libra describes herself as intuitive and spunky and is most proud of her children. Oprah Winfrey is her hero because she has surpassed all the odds to become a top figure in television where she has influence on the American culture. The men she is attracted to include Jude Law, Rob Lowe, Matthew McConaughey and Nick from Big Brother 8. She'd love to become a singer but doesn't believe it will ever happen.
VAHokies
She's spunky and sounds rather intelligent in her interviews (except with her attraction toward Nick - eh). I think she's one to really watch.
Balthier
Good. I've been waiting for another African-American BB player who was actually intelligent. Haven't seen one of those since Danielle. Jameka was decent, but I definitely wouldn't say she was particularly intellectual.
VAHokies
Jameka's problem -- while pretty likable -- was that she was a pretty lousy player. After seeing Libra's casting video, she seems to know the game -- so that's an added bonus.
Balthier
I also hope Libra doesn't blow it early like Parker.
Turanga Leela
Her twins are only 4 months old. I can't believe she's leaving them, that seems awfully young. Bad mommy!

Also I would like to point out that she's not even a Libra... her name lies. Or is Libra a real name and I just don't know it?

My picking on her is all in good fun. I don't pre-hate any of them except for Dan.
AnnieGirl
Her twins are only 4 months old. I can't believe she's leaving them, that seems awfully young. Bad mommy!

My heart sank a little when I read that. Must be a major famewhore to leave them behind by choice. Wow! Possibly 3 months away. Children change a lot between 4 mos. and 8 mos. and she'll never, ever get that time back.
LonePirate
I think Libra has a lot of potential in this game provided she plays it smart. I think she needs to be very careful about any alliances she forms or joins.

I sure hope she doesn't break down a couple of times a day because she misses her kids. I quickly hate these parents who sob about leaving their kids when they knew beforehand they would be isolated from them for several weeks.
lasu
I find it stunning that she would chose to be away from her children for so long when they are just infants. I have a feeling I would have really liked her if it wasn't for that, but I just can't get past it.
Dbrain2004
So, can we get ourselves a Virgo or a Capricorn in this house for next season? ;)

(Sorry. SOMEONE was gonna make that joke, might as well be me.)

I must say, she's my early favorite going in. I hope she doesn't disappoint.

Her twins are only 4 months old. I can't believe she's leaving them, that seems awfully young. Bad mommy!


Now, considering that casting for this season was airing during BB9, back in Feb./March, meaning that she probably just gave birth to those twins when she was trying out. I do have to give pause to that, but otherwise, I have to root for her. I have no doubt that she'll use the half-million to provide a better life for her kids.
Balthier
She's got the same name as my brother's sign, so I have to root for her based on that (among other things)!
CassandraRedux
She's definitely one of the house guests I want to love, but like a lot of you, the baby thing gives me much pause. I'm hoping she will be so filled with awesome, I'll just let it go.
goombalina
She is from the same town as me. And I can't stand her already. Mainly, it's leaving twin babies behind. I felt so guilty leaving my 4 month old kitten with my son in Austin last summer to go to Hawaii for a couple of weeks to see my daughter and she is leaving 4 month old babies? Possibly for 2 months? You couldn't pry me away from mine when they were that age. It boggles my mnd, seriously.

I hope they vote her out first.
dantsea
I love her. She apparently is secure enough in her relationship to realize her babies will have a loving family around them even if she's not there, and realizes that she'll have an entire lifetime to share with her children. The lack of apron strings is refreshing in this day and age of hover parents.

At least I feel that way now; let's see how she comes across when the show and feeds start tomorrow night.
Balthier
dantsea
I love her. She apparently is secure enough in her relationship to realize her babies will have a loving family around them even if she's not there, and realizes that she'll have an entire lifetime to share with her children.

I feel the same way and am not holding her leaving her children so long against her for that very reason.
BooNasty0121
I love her. She apparently is secure enough in her relationship to realize her babies will have a loving family around them even if she's not there, and realizes that she'll have an entire lifetime to share with her children.

I feel the same way and am not holding her leaving her children so long against her for that very reason.


Agreed. And if she wins, when they turn 18, they'll be able to go to any college they want without worrying about student loans thanks to mom.
MariaK
I love her. She apparently is secure enough in her relationship to realize her babies will have a loving family around them even if she's not there, and realizes that she'll have an entire lifetime to share with her children.

I feel the same way and am not holding her leaving her children so long against her for that very reason.



No, I won't hold her leaving her children against her. However, I will hold that haircut against her. Me no likey. Most likely because it reminds me of Chelsia from BB9 and I really hated that hoe.
Balthier
She was pretty quiet in the premiere. So far, so good. No ruffling feathers, she seems pretty well-liked, and she managed to escape the first nomination. Good for her.
MITerp
Here's an interview with her, parts 1 and 2. (Apologies if this has already been posted/seen.)

She's an intriguing young lady. I like her (it's early, though). Can't wait to see how she develops her strategy.

With her complexion, hairstyle, and voice, she bears a striking resemblance to Renee Goldsberry.
Munchiewoman
I'm sure the kids will be fine - they'll have love and be taken care of. I also think it'll be harder on the 4-year-old. But there is just no way I could have left my kid at that age unless I were forced to. It was hard enough going back to work and missing so much - like her first step - but to be completely away for that long? I just can't fathom doing that for a reality show, I don't care how much money you can make. It didn't appear they were hurting for money.

I don't dislike her because of it, I just question her judgment. And I wonder how she'll hold up.
chesslover
Maybe I'm blind but to me she has a dark skinned malotto baby and a light skinned malotto baby. Anyone else see it that way? There's nothing wrong with that but don't tell us you have a black and white baby. Rant over. Now where are those puppies? I'm hungry.
LocaCola
don't tell us you have a black and white baby.

I know! That is NOT a medical rarity. It's called one looking like the mom and one looking like the dad. And ITA with all that said she shouldn't have left her kids.
PetuniaP
I also admire Libra for having the gumption to leave the care of her babies to her husband and family while going off to pursue something she really wants. Mothers that act like leaving the kids for 10 minutes is a major tragedy and being gone longer than a few hours is inconceivable annoy me to no end. Looks like Libra takes the view that her life did not end when she had kids and it's a refreshing change.
Canadian Tyler
I get what you mean, Petunia, and I don't entirely disagree. But, this is possibly 3 months away, not a weekend away with the girls
PetuniaP
I get what you mean, Petunia, and I don't entirely disagree. But, this is possibly 3 months away, not a weekend away with the girls


I think the kids will be fine. After all, they are with their father and he is more than capable of caring for them just as their mother did. Here is a link to what he had to say about it on their Myspace page.

I think what really bothers me if that if there was a new father of twins in the house, there wouldn't be all this hullabaloo. There might have been a little bit of grumbling but most people accept that fathers might need to be away from the family to try and earn more money for their keeping. But if a woman does it, it's "what kind of mother is she?" It's a terrible double standard that I am not in favor of.

It's seems to me that Libra and Scott (her husband) have the maturity to decide what is best for their family and I'm happy to see them take the nontraditional route.
mrskatja
I think what really bothers me if that if there was a new father of twins in the house, there wouldn't be all this hullabaloo. There might have been a little bit of grumbling but most people accept that fathers might need to be away from the family to try and earn more money for their keeping. But if a woman does it, it's "what kind of mother is she?" It's a terrible double standard that I am not in favor of.


Petunia,

I totally agree - if Libra's husband were in the house instead no one would be making this an issue at all. I respect Libra for being able to take this chance to possibly help her family in the long run. Yes, she'll be missing 3 vital months of her children's lives, but if she passed this up she'll have a life time of "what-if"'s
percolata
I don't think anyone believes a woman needs to quit living just because she has children but the first year is a very special year. Babies that young recognize their primary care giver by smell and touch as much as by sight and they derive a big part of their sense of security from that familiarity. If Dad has been their primary care giver all along, then fine, but if they have to undergo a big shake-up in their lives, the kind that babies usually only have to deal with if their mother dies, for no reason except that Mommy can't wait until next year to do a fun thing like go on Big Brother, then I think it's pretty selfish.

Mother's don't have to quit having fun because they have children, but I don't see how giving up a few pleasures for one year out of a typical lifespan of 75, is an unbearable sacrifice.

As for the money, they looked like their house cost almost as much as she might win. I doubt that she needs the money for their college tuition, even if we had any reason to believe she was going to save it for that.
Munchiewoman
I personally would be just as amazed if a father took off for three months in a 5-month-old's life. Three months in a baby's life is a HUGE chunk of time - they go through so many changes and live so much of their little lives during this time. And that's time you can never get back, changes you'll never see and experience. I don't worry about the kid so much (though I bet the first few days are horrible for them), I just don't see how a parent could do it so easily. But that's just me.
lasu
I would feel exactly the same way if the father had come on the show. I think a parent leaving kids so small is very shocking when you consider the time and reasons, it doesn't matter which one.

There's a huge difference between saying life doesn't end when you become a mother and saying it's ok to leave your infants for two or three months to go be on a freakin' reality show. I don't think that parents have to be around their kids 24/7; I agree it's healthy for parents to get some time to themselves and to accomplish personal goals. However, I obviously have no problem judging a parent who makes this particular choice. It's lame. I hope she's either voted out first so she can go home to her family or wins the whole thing so at least they get a house or something out it the whole thing.
MrsSea
I will hold that haircut against her. Me no likey. Most likely because it reminds me of Chelsia from BB9



I'll hold it against her because:


1. it's out of style now (it was out of style when Chelsia was on too)

2. she's wearing it improperly...her part is all wrong and she didn't take the time to REALLY style it, and just looking at it annoys me
DAngelus
I'm torn about her participation; I'm no fan of "hover parenting" but three months (and with only the first four bootees not making sequester, the odds are more than two-to-one that it *will* be three months) seems an excessive absence this early on.

That said, I have to disagree here:
As for the money, they looked like their house cost almost as much as she might win. I doubt that she needs the money for their college tuition, even if we had any reason to believe she was going to save it for that.

For all we know, they've got a 30-year mortgage on that house, which they could be struggling to pay. Not exactly the same thing as having the asset free and clear.
PetuniaP
Yeah, my girl Libra is fierce! On one show, she managed to school April, back Ollie into a corner and get a backdoor nom for big mouth Brian. Beautiful.

Mama drama aside, this woman is one of the smartest people ever in the BB house. I am going to enjoy watching her play. Long live Libra.
Balthier
Great gameplay by Libra, but I'm hoping she doesn't overdo it in the coming weeks. She can't if she expects to win that money for her kids.
Drygo
I don't know if this was intentional or not, but the good thing about Libra's gameplay on last night's episode was the way she went about getting Brian's nomination. She didn't act like she was trying to manipulate anyone, she had no ego about it. She didn't act like she was trying to stir the pot, you couldn't even tell if she was scheming. She was merely pointing out facts, and people were able to see the light about it. It seemed to me like when you do your game play in that way, people don't begin to think of you as a threat. In fact, you gain goodwill from everybody else and people just think of you as someone who realized something, not someone who tried to manipulate anything.

Like I said, I don't know if that was an intentional move on her part. But, either way, it was a smart way to get rid of this season's self-titled puppetmaster, Brian, without throwing attention onto yourself. She played exactly the way Brian should have played, without the cockiness and the overt manipulation and deal making. From last night's episode, she's pulled into the lead as one of my early favorites.
candycanecrawl
As for the money, they looked like their house cost almost as much as she might win. I doubt that she needs the money for their college tuition, even if we had any reason to believe she was going to save it for that.



Given what college tuition is for three kids and raising three kids in general I don't see that having a nice house would eliminate that need. Should the twins go to college at the same time, that's double everything tuition, books etc at the same time.

We may not have any reason to belive that she would save it for that, but it seems a reasonable assumption since that's generally the kind of thing most parent's think about.

And it is possible to get a lot of house in Texas for not a lot of money, so that house could still be what's considered moderately priced.

It seems that if the babies are in good care and she and her husband are on the same page then there is no problem. And I do agree that if it was the dad in the house there would be less debate. I think some people would think well the mom is there and the dad doing what dad's do and trying to secure his family's future. I don't have a problem that the gender's are reversed.
jbreckenridge
It seems that if the babies are in good care and she and her husband are on the same page then there is no problem. And I do agree that if it was the dad in the house there would be less debate. I think some people would think well the mom is there and the dad doing what dad's do and trying to secure his family's future. I don't have a problem that the gender's are reversed.


Unless dad can lactate, there is one significant difference. If the twins are stuck sucking down formula just so that mom could be on TV, I'd call that selfish. Four months is kind of early to be weaned.
ShadowyMoon
Unless dad can lactate, there is one significant difference. If the twins are stuck sucking down formula just so that mom could be on TV, I'd call that selfish. Four months is kind of early to be weaned.


Many mothers can't or choose not to breastfeed for a variety of reasons that may include but aren't limited to wanting to appear on a reality show. Libra may not have been breastfeeding her twins at all.

I like Libra so far. She's a little pushy and, I don't know, kind of gives off a self-congratulatory vibe about her independent thinking but she was a smart cookie to flip things around on Brian. Now that she's made a big move, it would be good for her to lay low for a couple of weeks, but I'm not sure she's capable of doing that.
baxsmom
Babies that young recognize their primary care giver by smell and touch as much as by sight and they derive a big part of their sense of security from that familiarity. If Dad has been their primary care giver all along, then fine, but if they have to undergo a big shake-up in their lives, the kind that babies usually only have to deal with if their mother dies, for no reason except that Mommy can't wait until next year to do a fun thing like go on Big Brother, then I think it's pretty selfish.


I say if the opportunity is there, go for it. It might help pay for a nicer place to live, for college, or their future therapy.

I asked my children (who are in their late teens and early twenties) what they remember about that first year of life? Guess what...the only remembrances are through pictures and videos which they only look at if my husband or I prompt them. My kids don't remember my scent--hell they are embarrassed when they found out I breast fed them and asked that we would never speak of it again.

As long as there is someone there to hold and feed them, change their diapers, keep them warm and clean, and bond with them, I think they will be fine. It sounds like they have a good Dad and Grandma to fill in for Mom. They also won't have to live down any embarrassment or notoriety the show may bring their Mom/family will bring due to appearing on the show as they are wee ones.
TWoP Bayliss
Please stop lecturing each other on what constitutes good parenting and living within one's means, and start talking about the topic. Which is Libra, not yourselves. Thank you.
Orion7
I don't know if this was intentional or not, but the good thing about Libra's gameplay on last night's episode was the way she went about getting Brian's nomination. She didn't act like she was trying to manipulate anyone, she had no ego about it. She didn't act like she was trying to stir the pot, you couldn't even tell if she was scheming. She was merely pointing out facts, and people were able to see the light about it. It seemed to me like when you do your game play in that way, people don't begin to think of you as a threat. In fact, you gain goodwill from everybody else and people just think of you as someone who realized something, not someone who tried to manipulate anything.

She's my favorite player right now because of that. She was smart enough to see through Brian's (stupidly arrogant) posturing, and used the knowledge very effectively. It was fun to watch her move from small group to small group.
Balthier
Orion7
It was fun to watch her move from small group to small group.

Which is the way Brian should've played things if he hoped to get what he wanted from the other houseguests. He should take a lesson from Libra.
Dannysheaven
I don't want to comment on Libra, I just want to say "Mmmhmm." But that would be teetering on spam, now wouldn't it? ;)
BoozeGood
The woman knows how to drop a "mmmhmm" which might be one of the most effective non-words ever. I also appreciated Libra's, "it's not your life, step up off" moment in response to the non-controversy of her non-abandonment of her kids.
spaceshuttle
I also appreciated Libra's, "it's not your life, step up off" moment in response to the non-controversy of her non-abandonment of her kids.


I agreed with her also; her decisions are her decisions, and it should be left at that. Still, to each their own.
sidekickgirl
I would feel exactly the same way if the father had come on the show. I think a parent leaving kids so small is very shocking when you consider the time and reasons, it doesn't matter which one.

There's a huge difference between saying life doesn't end when you become a mother and saying it's ok to leave your infants for two or three months to go be on a freakin' reality show. I don't think that parents have to be around their kids 24/7; I agree it's healthy for parents to get some time to themselves and to accomplish personal goals. However, I obviously have no problem judging a parent who makes this particular choice. It's lame. I hope she's either voted out first so she can go home to her family or wins the whole thing so at least they get a house or something out it the whole thing.


Co-sign.

I really want to like her, but this is a big stumbling block for me.
blackwing
I could never leave my baby for such a long time - it was hard enough just going away for a week without him. But kudos to her for being able to do it. She must be very strong willed.

Maybe I'm blind but to me she has a dark skinned malotto baby and a light skinned malotto baby. Anyone else see it that way? There's nothing wrong with that but don't tell us you have a black and white baby.
I agree. I don't know why they call it a "medical rarity". The twins are obviously fraternal. One happens to have the darker skin of the mom and the other happens to have the lighter skin of the dad. It's interesting, but since she is black I don't think it is accurate for them to go around and say she gave birth to a white baby.
Barrett0033
Why do the houseguests that I like in the beginning always turn out to be assholes? I so wanted to like her but man has she turned out to be a mean one. And I am sorry but getting in the face of a 75 year old and screaming like that is a huge no no IMO. Unless he was about to cause her bodily harm he deserves more respect than that. I know if I ever acted like that towards an elderly person I would have two Grandfathers and a Grandmother come back from the dead and knock my ass from here to next month. No excuse IMO.


And damn is she is tall one. If she wasn't so pretty I might start calling her Godzilla. Of course if she keeps acting like and uber bitch I may just call her that regardless.
Tajeznah
And I am sorry but getting in the face of a 75 year old and screaming like that is a huge no no IMO.



In my book - no male, no matter how old should jump in any female's face screaming & carrying on like he did. He'd already called her a bitch and worked himself up into a frenzy over a lie - I'm surprised he didn't try to hit her.
dsg21
Maybe I'm blind but to me she has a dark skinned malotto baby and a light skinned malotto baby. Anyone else see it that way? There's nothing wrong with that but don't tell us you have a black and white baby.


Delurking to comment on this. "Mulatto" is not the way most people would refer to themselves. The preferred term is bi-racial.

Returning to lurking.
shantastic
Libra is a medical rarity - a chimera. Check it out here: http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=8905

She has two separate DNA strands. Her twins aren't really fraternal - they received completely different DNA from their mother. It's not a simple matter of one being darker or lighter. I wish BB would spend a ilttle more time on this, because there seems to be a lot of confusion.

I've seen case studies where children were removed from their mothers were accused of stealing babies because the DNA didn't match up. Truly frightening.

That being said, she still irks. . .
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