...maybe it's Maybelline? Or will it be Alec's instruction that could take her to the top? You might not know Josie's name, but you probably know her face - Sports Illustrated, Victoria's Secret, Maybelline ads - she's done it all. So here's the place where we talk about her!

If there are any David Blaine fans out there, you might remember they used to date. She was even there at the end of one of his hairbrained stunts (buried alive, I think), when he was coming out of his "grave" and getting into the ambulance. She looked genuinely upset at his condition, which made me think it was actually for real (well, mostly real, anyway). Beautiful girl.

I'm loving this title Aurinos

I believe she was there in for his "buried in a block of ice" stunt, not to be confused with his "buried in a glass coffin under water for a week" stunt. (Which granted, all seem the same, so don't worried about getting confused catgyrl.)

She also appeared in this.

Thanks, mtlchickie - it was too long ago for me to remember.

I am too, though Josie probably isn't since she's now promoting her own makeup line.
Here's hoping a younger model (literally) works out better for Alec this year.

I don't know Josie at all, but I'm a huge Alec fan and will be disappointed if they are the first to go because of no name recognition.
Do you guys think she will be good?

No idea if she'll be any good - but she's beautiful and 4 inches shorter than Paulina, so that's good, for starters.

Is she the girl in red in the vampire sequences who is, worryingly, not dancing?

She's really pretty. She has some tacky photos out there, though, and I hope the more prudish in the audience aren't annoyed by that. I know that some thought that Kelly Monaco's Playboy-past was problematic.

Hopefully she'll have a fun personality, and they'll either be really good or really bad the first night, so that people remember to vote for them. If she wears skimpy practice outfits ala Kelly, that might help, too.

LOL, whatever it takes for votes and to keep Alec!

If by "tacky", you mean "sexy as hell", then that's a good thing. Check it out: Josie Maran. Those are real, BTW. 5'7", 34C.

At least seven of the female celebs so far in DWTS history have actually appeared nude in Playboy.

She is very pretty, but this:

"I looked it up, and she has dated David Blaine and Brett Ratner."

To quote Frank from 30 Rock, oh that is grim.

Also on 30 Rock, Liz proves the stupidity of Jenna by saying that Jenna was once engaged to David Blaine. Heh.

I almost feel sorry for Josie, due to those previous traumatic choices in her life, but if you don't got it, you don't got it. She'll probably be leaving tonight. I do wish that she could stay a little longer, especially since I loved Alec in S1 and haven't really seen him able to strut his substantial stuff since.

I did feel sorry for Josie, but then I saw some behind the scenes interviews with her after the show. She was a bit bitchy, saying that they were picking on her but hey, she didn't have any dance training! (Note: this was before the guys' performances of course, so at this point she couldn't reasonably make the argument that the judges let the guys get away with more stuff). It's just…yeah, Josie, we know you don't have dance training while other contestants do. But really, did you not know what you were getting into before you signed on? Don't sign on for this sort of show unless you can hang with the big boys, dance training or not. Or, if you think that you won't do well, at least don't get pissy about it when you don't do well. I wish people would retire this sort of excuse when they don't dance well.

I feel bad for Josie. I don't think she did bad for someone with no dance background, and if she's seen the show, she certainly did better than previous worst of the worsts (Tucker Carlson! Kenny Mayne! Master P!). The judges have been much kinder to other bad dancers, and I don't blame her for being upset over being reamed for what was really an all right first effort.

Exactly! I'd never heard of her, but her interactions when training with Alec were funny. As was his declaration that she was terribly unfit for being so thin. I think everyone out there has much improvement to shoot for. But what made me like her less, was her put out face when receiving the scores. It doesn't surprise me she whined about having no dance training. That is true for several of the men and women. I'd like to see her mature into a better dancer, but I see her leaving soon. Only Floyd had scores almost as low. Floyd got to me too, when he started talking about himself in the 3rd person! But I think his dance had more ooomph, so I'd rather him stick around. Josie, Floyd and the billionaire guy had the biggest egos I could see.

I think it was just the way she came off in the interview, because I do understand why she'd be upset. But I just really hate that excuse: "I'm not a dancer!" This is still a dance competition (to some degree, because dancing obviously isn't the only consideration given to scoring and there are differing levels of experience). Shut up about the fact that you're not a dancer. Everybody knows already. You just come off as pathetic if you keep bringing it up all the time (BRC, anyone?).

I saw the full confessional on ABC.com, and her complaint seemed to be that she was told her footwork was terrible the whole time, but it wasn't... the WHOLE time. So she seemed to acknowledge that yes, it wasn't perfect. I think the hyperbole of the judges, especially the dismissiveness of Carrie Ann, really irritated her.

I have a feeling that the problems were because Josie wasn't working as hard as she needed to, and as hard as Alec wanted her to. Because he goes on to say that her fired-up-edness is great, but she needs to work, not talk, and let's go out there and walk the walk, etc.

I'd honestly rather her (and, even more honestly, ALEC) stick around another week than Wayne or Mark, or even Marie, who aren't going to be contenders for the semis. I think if Josie works, and pushes herself, she has the youth and health to improve. I'm not sure that the others do.

I'm hoping that the voter turnout for last night will be lower than it was for the ladies (I know several of my group that couldn't commit to watching and voting Tuesday night as well as Monday), and that Josie will be saved to dance again by a guy being sacrificed (preferably Mark or Wayne).

Josie isn't a Master P, Kenny, BRC, or Tucker. And, though it's a bit early to tell, I don't think she's a Jerry Springer, John Ratzenberger, George Hamilton, Tatum, Sarah Evans, or Leeza, either.

It won't matter. If you go on the ABC website and click on the section that explains voting, you'll see that the powers that be have already taken this into account. I only skimmed the explanation so I don't know too much myself, but they acknowledged that possibility and are therefore doing things on a sliding/relative scale of some sort.

I'll cut her a bit of slack on this whine, because Carrie Ann's comment to her was that it's obvious she's not a dancer, dear, or something to that effect. So I can understand a frustrated "duh" type response.

I wonder if the stars hang around the dress rehearsal and have a chance to see what the other couples are doing. Because that could contribute to it, too. You have Jane and Sabrina, who are doing fantastic routines, and are, or have been, "dancers." Sure, Jennie, Marie, and Mel aren't dancers, either. But there wasn't a whole lot of rigorous dancing in Marie's routine.

At the end of the day, excuses don't matter. So she just needs to suck it up and work harder, if she has that opportunity. But, I'll give her a bit of a pass on being pissy about the opening night critiques. It was a lot like Kelly and Alec in Season 1, Week 1, and I think it's hard for anyone to take that sort of public criticism, esp. one with a celebrity-sized ego. And, generally speaking, the judges have been pretty gracious in the past with their remarks on opening night, ever since Kelly.


Hmm, well then what was the point in splitting up the women and the men? I thought the conspiracy theory was that TPTB wanted to "force" an ouster of a guy first? Shows what I know!

The math on the voting must be very complicated. Thinking about it makes my head hurt.

Based on her shaky relationship with Alec and how unenthused she seems to be by the process, I'm not sure if she'll improve even if she stays another week. This week she may stay because people feel sorry for her, but I hope she doesn't stay over someone who was better than her. If she stays instead of Floyd, Mark, Cameron, or Wayne, then that's fair, she was better than they were.

I must've missed that comment. In that case, I get why she said that. Although...she still seemed kinda pissy, but I'm probably just finding it hard to let go of my dislike. *grin* I guess I should cut her some slack for right now and wait to see if she makes it into the next round (low chance of that, I guess) and continues making that same excuse.



The conspiracy theorist inside of me says that they deliberately make it convoluted to the point where they can screw with the result if it's not to their liking.

Yeah, I know, I'm paranoid.

I'll have to watch it back, but Carrie Ann said something about her obviously not being a dancer, or dancing obviously not coming naturally to her (which... is the point of the show -- non-dancers trying to learn to dance). And I'm pretty sure she stuck a "dear" in there, too, which would have made me want to slap her -- don't patronize me! Hee. But, regardless, Josie could have handled the situation more graciously.


Hehe... that too!

I have to wonder what she has been doing for the past four weeks of rehearsal. Everyone is saying her biggest problem is being out-of-shape. One month of working out won't turn you into an athlete but it is enough time to build up a decent base. Just taking a pilates class a few times a week would have helped her core strength immensely. So has she been flaking for the past month or is she really that unfit? If it's the latter, then she is really going to have to put forth a huge effort. I don't know if there is enough time for her to do the extra work needed to build some stamina AND learn all the choreography in time for a performance each week.

Good grief, yes, I'd have wanted to slap her too under those circumstances! If Carrie Ann was that infuriatingly patronizing then I will definitely give Josie a pass.

I watched Josie's confessional. Alec was completely stony-faced, IIRC. And then as another poster pointed out, he talked about how she needs to work, not talk. I don't know anything about physical fitness and how to develop muscles, but going by what skylighter says, Josie should have developed some sort of stamina by now, particularly if she's working the same long hours that many of the other contestants are. This makes me think that she really is slacking off to some degree. Alec can't be pleased at all.

I really don't get how she can be so unfit. When doing leg lifts on the monkey bars during Alec's Boot Camp, she had defined abs. It's not like you get those from just not eating. And when he was trying to get her to lift herself up from a back bend in the studio, she had leg muscle. It's not like she's some 85-lb runway-walking waif. She clearly has some muscle tone. It's a mystery!

Interestingly, Yahoo! says that Josie Maran is in third place behind Marie and Jane as the most "searched for" DWTS contestants. Make of that what you will, vote-wise.

Even if he hates her ever-living guts, I think Alec should have been more gracious, esp. on-screen. I think his steely expression, his distance from her on the couch - he seemed to be sitting there seething with anger while she tried to look at him furtively - etc. This makes HIM look bad. You'd think he'd know that! He should comfort/support her more, like Brian Fortuna or Jonathan Roberts or, really, anybody else would (except maybe Maks but I think even he would do better than Alec has in this situation.) And I don't care if she has been slacking (and I did not get that impression from the rehearsal stuff) - it's just a question of common decency.

I felt so sorry for her. Her funny little comments in the rehearsal footage made me even sorrier. She said if he slipped up, she'd cover for him. That was SO cute - and I think a sign that she was trying to cut the tension. Also in the confessional, when he sat there, cold as ice, she had just said something like, "My arms suck. My legs suck. My feet suck." and she looked like she was about to cry. She's NOT a professional dancer. This show KNOWS that some people will be better than others - that some will outright suck at dancing. That's part of the FUN of the damned show.

And they bend over backwards for some (like Wayne) and lower the boom on others (like Josie.) NOT FAIR! I hope there's a backlash -- well, I think I hope that. I'm not sure she'd be any better on Latin dances - don't they require even more strength and separate dancing? And if she stays, it's more chances for her to be brutalized by everybody.

I hope Paulina's on the phone comforting her. Or SOMEBODY. She may be a ditz, she may be a klutz, but she hasn't been rude and mean to anybody (that I've seen) and people HAVE been rude and mean to her, and I don't like it.

My curiosity would be to see how Josie's body changes through the course of the season as she gains strength.

I do think the writing is on the wall for her but the comment about how 'deceptively unfit' she is compared with her model's build, I'm curious as to what would happen.

Most of the people who have been on the show have talked about how much weight they lost. Even people who didn't look like they necessarily needed talked about how their body changed. Kelly Monaco, from Season 1, lost five pounds when she was on and I don't know where she could have possibly done so... she was like 5'2" as it was.

I think the only exception to that rule was Apolo... who said he gained weight. Shouldn't be surprised if he had put on some extra muscle mass.

Anyway, I would have been interested to see how Josie changed.

I think a bit of the pouting in their post-dance interview was staged on purpose by the two of them as a joke, b/c they were both so over the top about it. And if you look at the longer clip online, Alec does speak to her, and does smile and lean towards her -- they just cut it off while he was looking pissy for the show. Based upon footage from past seasons and other interviews, Alec doesn't hog the camera, like Maks. He generally lets his celeb do the talking, and doesn't butt in. I just think, as far as the confessional, he was letting her say her peace before he chimed in. But, it did come across as cold, the way it was cut for the show. What they didn't show was his encouraging her that she could do it, she just has to walk the walk.

I didn't notice their positioning on the couches backstage after performing, so I can't comment on that.

I thought they were having fun in the rehearsal clip. He was good-natured about her mess-ups, and when she accused him of doing the wrong step, I loved his looking at her and cracking up. That was pretty awesome. And the "deceptively unfit" part will never not be funny.

Alec came off as cold at first in the first season, too. He warmed up. I thought he and Josie had a really nice rapport in the rehearsal segments.

I just don't know if they got the support they need to stay in.

Yeah, this first week for Alec was a lot like his first week with Kelly, down to the harsh comments from the judges and the downtrodden partner. I think if Josie makes it past elimination, and if she'll buckle down, we'll see Alec thawing. He's just never been hammy with the camera, or one to crack a lot of jokes or try to take attention away from his celeb. And I've always liked that about him. Just as you can count on Maks to pull a face, or stand up to start a wave the second the camera is on him like last night, you can pretty much predict that Alec isn't going to be vying with his partner for the limelight. I think it's professional. Me likey.

Well, you guys made me feel better - but I do think that others may have gotten the same impression I did and it would be better (for Alec himself) if he was a little quicker with the supportive gestures and comments. And I was a huge fan! The only reason I watched Season 4 in the beginning was because of Alec being back. (but not long into the season, I was watching because of Apolo - esp. since Alec was gone pretty quick, lol.) Anyhow, I'll probably try to catch his movie with Cate Blanchett or whatever her name is - and I NEVER watch movies.

I feel bad for her, I don't think she deserves to go first just as I didn't think Paulina deserved to go first last season. If she goes it's because of judge's bullshit.

God, that was agonizing. I think I'll skip results shows in the future, maybe the whole stupid series. She wasn't the worst - Wayne was - easily, she tried hard, and she was so sweet/cute (like Paulina before her, who was way better than several of the men.) It's not fun watching sweet vulnerable people get voted off. Not fun at all.

I felt bad for her, too. It was like ABC set her up to lose. I would rather have seen Wayne go (and I adore Cheryl).

Personally I never cared for her dancing or their partnership but she should still be here over Mark. At least Alec and her did the moves. To me Mark didn't really do any serious dancing.

Someone in the episode thread said she was on Jimmy Kimmel claiming the judges didn't like her because she's too pretty.

She's not *that* pretty, and even if she was, her lack of work ethic and her anti-chemistry with Alec are bigger reasons to dislike her.

The comments on Kimmel are unfortunate. I was hoping the "pretty" card wasn't going to be played. *sigh*

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Elsa -- In total agreement with you about the manner in which Alec treated JM on screen and how it made HIM look bad. He did her no favors. He was sullen, ungracious and boorish towards her. Not saying she's all that but thought he was really unprofessional and wonder if that is his usual MO when he doesn't get what he wants.

I couldn't watch much of the results thing last night. I knew what was coming and, while I'd never heard of JM before and was not invested in her success, watching folks be humiliated on national tv just not my idea of entertainment.

And the Wayne Newton adoration is just bizarre. Fine to give the man respect but letting him pass on the basis of that particular dance really unfair to the others. Inviting him on to sing as a guest would've been one thing. Having him compete -- not so much.

I get the feeling that part of the problem with Josie was that she wasn't putting in the time or the effort. Alec commented, clearly frustrated while trying to be encouraging, that they just need to work harder, and if she's all fired up, they need to walk the walk, not just talk about it.

The confessionals were cut, so he probably was more sympathetic to her than we saw. But I did like that he admitted that they ended a full bar ahead of when they were supposed to, so that they were rushing. He wasn't pulling any "we was robbed" stuff. Now, after the guys went, I'm sure he was "what the hell?"-ing the judges' comments and scores.

I can't feel bad for the woman. I certainly don't think she was mistreated. I agree the problem seemed more with Josie maybe not putting in enough time and work for Alec's liking.

I also can't support a woman that then basically went on Kimmel and said the judges treated her poorly because she is pretty and if she wanted to do well she should have cut off one of her legs. If she wants to see class after getting kicked off first undeservedly, she should look to Paulina.

Plus I don't see last night as cruel. She wasn't put in front of a firing squad and shot. She was kicked first off a dancing show. Does she not realize it's partly her lack of fan base as a model that got her kicked off? At least Albert seems to readily admit nobody knows he who is and has to work harder because of that fact.

I totally agree msrayrudd. After the Kimmel appearance, I wonder if her personality (i.e. shifting the blame) is part of the reason Alec couldn't get along with her also. I mean its one thing to work with just a plain bad dancer who's trying, but if she exhibited the same behaviour she did on Kimmel, I can totally see him just being through with her (before they even really began)

Good point. Kelly got roasted after their first dance and she stood there and took it all stoically and then came back and got down to business. I remember one of the rehearsal segments that season showing Alec saying how impressed he was with her determination and her ability to shake off the criticisms and not get discouraged.

Kelly Monaco is no slug, either, so the pretty excuse doesn't work. For that matter, who else is in the competition this season? A bunch of hags? Please.

This bugged me. Every other pro was really nice to their dance partners. Josie got stuck with a jerk.

I didn't watch her on Kimmell so I'll bow to others' judgment on that. But I still say, even *if* she was the jerk of the millenium, that doesn't excuse Alec from being too icy and appearing to be mean/rude to her. He's the pro - he's there to teach but he's also there to support - or hell, at least LOOK like he's supportive and caring of his partner, even if he's stuck with a tool (not saying she is -- but I don't know, maybe so...)

Now, on the results show, when she said she'd dance "alone" now because the dancing bug had bitten her -- I believe he said something like: "Awww, you can come knock on my door and I'll dance with you (or teach you)" -- something like that. That tells me that he DOES care about her to some degree - and that he can be a nice guy and say something sweet and supportive (instead of just being 100% jerk.)

And I remember with Kelly Monaco, he could be extremely sweet and gracious and supportive -- (on one of the rehearsal things), he said he may not have gotten the celeb with the most skill but he definitely got the one with the most heart. Now that comment was just perfect. Which leads me to believe he just gets caught up in his emotions of the moment (extreme disappointment, hurt feelings, anger, even blaming) and doesn't keep a lid on them, so therefore, he seethes or stares angrily away from his partner or whatever.

Well, and I say this as a genuine fan of Alec's, he needs to get a grip, and learn to squelch his bad feelings and be GRACIOUS, no matter what. No matter if his partner is a jerk/slacker/bitch/idiot. No matter that he's voted off first yet again. No matter that the judges say unfair things. Maybe some people call pull off being more open/direct -- Anna seems able to keep the tone right while Karina is more like Alec and comes off badly when she lets her emotion come out (at least I think that's the case, with her pouting and stuff, though I haven't paid that much attention.) Alec comes off very very badly, imo, and needs to learn to PRETEND his way through it, if nothing else. I think his coldness may even affect how many votes he and his partner get. And I'm trying to be fair -- I think he IS a nice guy underneath it all, but maybe a bit of a baby, and he needs to learn to handle things better.

JMHO though - and of course, YMMV and all that. And I do love Alec, I swear. I think he's easily the sexiest pro -- well, other than maybe the new guy Marky :) -- and I'm practically drooling when I watch him, but still... It doesn't excuse lack of manners.

Actually, Jimmy Kimmel started the "too pretty" comments. He told Josie that he had predicted way before the show started that she would be eliminated first because she was too pretty. And, he thinks Marie will go next,,,can't remember the reason though.

I do agree that some of the pros wear their hearts on their sleeves more than some of the others. Alec does seem to get a bit serious, but I think he does care for his celebs generally. I'm not sure what the problem between Josie and himself was, but it does seem there was a bit of a disconnect.

But as a general rule, the women pros (with the exception of Karina) seem to have an easier time putting on a brave face for the camera even if they aren't happy with something, whether it be the judging or their partners or what have you. The men tend to let it all out. I don't think Alec is any worse in this department than Maks or Tony.

Kimmel did start the "pretty" comments, but she probably shouldn't have jumped so enthusiastically on that bandwagon.

And the comment that she should have cut off her legs - that was all her.

Oh I like Alec, even with his silent ice, more than Maks, that's for sure. Heck, I absolutely adore Alec -- and I plan to go see his new movie with Cate Blanchett - but I think he didn't do well this season with his emotions - and he's been too cold in the past, imo. And Maks can be rude in correcting his partners but he does seem to have a little more warmth toward them (I think ?? actually, I don't pay much attention if I don't like the pro much, and that's the case with both Maks and Tony.)

Hasn't Alec been gracious with other partners before though? I just wonder if his behavior toward Josie was more how she was acting. (and this is from someone who thought Josie was funny on Kimmel)

Josie Maran: I Should Have Cut Off My Legs



I have watched the show since season 1 and thought Alec treated both Kelly Monaco and Paulina with consideration and respect, although it's harder to tell with Paulina since they were in the competition so briefly. However, in the rehearsal clip and the post-dance confessional, Alec and Paulina appeared to get along well.

I think Alec really respected Kelly's work ethic despite the fact that the dancing was less than stellar for the most part. This was the one season where the judges actually critiqued. Kelly was raked over the coals for most of the dances but she took it on the chin and worked even harder. The one exception was the infamous samba with the wardrobe malfunction. I think the malfunction worked to Kelly's advantage because she was so concerned about not letting her top fall down that she didn't overthink the dancing and resulted in the a relaxed and sensual performance, where the marks reflected it, but I digress.

I could see any number of factors in play with Josie. Again, it's hard because she was on so briefly but in the post-dance confessional, Alec was more emotional than with Paulina and Kelly, even though Kelly was getting relatively low marks. His remarks seemed to indicate what his frustration was - Josie wasn't putting in the time and effort. And then in the rehearsal clip, he said he didn't want to go out the first week two times in a row. I wonder if he was concerned that the producers might not consider him a viable pro. And the pro is paid for each week he/she continues in the competition, so that is also consideration.



I got an "I'm entitled" vibe from her but *shrugs* YMMV.