Buzzspark
Sep 25, 2009 @ 6:32 pm
Is Sonny Corinthos your all-time favorite soap character? Do you wish David Vickers would leave Llanview and never come back? Are you just dying to see another baby swap story? If so, this is the place to share your unpopular opinions without fear of scorn and ridicule.
To get the ball rolling, I have a few unpopular opinions of my own.
On Y&R: I love Gloria Bardwell. I first started watching the show about two and a half years ago. During that time Gloria was a front-burner, over the top schemer. She was on all the time and I loved it. Nobody can play bug-eyed, hysterical dramatics quite like Judith Chapman. I'm a little disappointed that she's not on as much anymore. Especially since every scheme blows up in her face, now. I think Y&R should let her win a few every now and then.
I'm also sorry to be losing Tammin Sursok as Colleen. I think her acting improved over the years. Her perfomances when Brad died won me over. Dare I say, I even liked her better than Adrienne Leon who always seemed so dour and whispery to me. Worst of all, though, I think it's a shame to lose a young character with so much history and family. I wish soap execs would learn not to kill off young members of core families. The story that comes from it is never worth the decimation of a core family(unless your GH's B.J. because that was good stuff).
On GL's Finale: I was pleased overall with the final episode and the week leading up to it. I think Alan's death was a perfect ending for the character and the show. The one(and only) thing I liked about GL's new production format was the ability it gave them to create a real community out of the characters. I loved seeing everyone happy as a family, as a couple, but more importantly, as a town. Being a 20 year viewer and a Jeva fan, I was thrilled to see Josh and Reva reunite at the end. I wouldn't have wanted it any other way. As a gay man, I can understand the disappointment many Otalia fans felt with their couple's ending. I can recognize that Otalia was a progressive story that gave GL some buzz and a bit of mainstream press. But as a GL fan, they were really just a small blip on the radar of the show and the stories. I'm more upset about the lack of airtime for long-term Springfield residents like Ed, Holly, Bridget, Nola and Dylan than I am about a true ending for Otalia.
sixesses
Sep 25, 2009 @ 9:13 pm
My UO would be that I found GL to be incredibly boring towards the end. I liked Murray Bartlett, and once I stopped seeing his character, I stopped looking at it.
I also like Y&R's Gloria, and enjoyed the show when she was in jail or dealing with her sons more often. I like Jeffrey too, which I think is really UO.
Bastet Esq
Sep 25, 2009 @ 11:21 pm
Eh, nevermind -- I need to be in a better frame of mind.
FlamingWench79
Sep 26, 2009 @ 12:39 am
My UO? I'm not as sad as I thought I'd be over about GL being off the air. I didn't even shed a single tear during the finale and I'm a diehard Jeva fan. The whole thing just felt so contrived to me and slapped together. That and I had long since come to the conclusion that my GL died a long time ago.
motheroftwo
Sep 26, 2009 @ 3:33 am
My unpopular opinion? I enjoy baby swap stories because once the drama dies down the child is with a permanent babysitter until he or she is SORASed to the point where they can do a baby switch of their own. This might be a bit of an exaggeration-but not by much.
pjamma
Sep 26, 2009 @ 3:46 am
I'm over Luke and Laura. Blah, blah, blah supercouplecakes. It was good while it lasted but it's been forever since they were relevant. I never need to see another reunion or hear about how they were the love of all loves ever again.
obtabius
Sep 26, 2009 @ 4:15 am
I'm over Luke and Laura. Blah, blah, blah supercouplecakes.
Same. Sorry LL fans I just don't get it. And I like Luke and Tracey together.
Also...I don't get why people think Chrystal Chappell is so amazing. I mean, I think she's good, but people think she's the Greatest Actor Ever. Which I definitely don't see. I want to...I just can't.
Toria
Sep 26, 2009 @ 4:25 am
I'm over Luke and Laura. Blah, blah, blah supercouplecakes.
Yeam I'm over LnL too and I like Luke and Tracy together but Tracy deserves much better IMO and I just couldn't care less if Luke was on GH or not. If Laura were to come back I'd want her to turn her back on Luke for being such a dick and get herself a hot young boytoy and snark on Luke with Tracy.
I don't like most super-couples because TIIC think that because the're
super they can trample all over everyone and do heinous things including to one another and yet stay together and still be loved for their supposedly super-couple status.
Also...I don't get why people think Chrystal Chappell is so amazing. I mean, I think she's good, but people think she's the Greatest Actor Ever. Which I definitely don't see. I want to...I just can't.
Yeah she's good, but not even counting the rest of daytime I think there were more than a couple of actors on GL that were better than her.
annsterg
Sep 26, 2009 @ 9:47 am
UOs from the mists of time:
- On ATWT, I liked Heather Rattray's Lily about a million times better than Martha Byrne's.
- I absolutely could not stand Terry Lester, in any role I ever saw him play. Just awful, constantly mugging, chewing the scenery, selfish with other actors...just UGH.
- Again, on ATWT, I have never ever EVER been able to accept Kelly M-H as Emily. IMO the one true Emily is Melanie Smith. Period.
and one current UO:
- I just don't understand the enduring popularity of Victor Newman, and Y&R's constant focus on him makes that show unwatchable for me.
motheroftwo
Sep 26, 2009 @ 10:21 am
I love this thread. It's so reassuring to know that you're not the only one who thought Victor Newman was way overblown--and I also stopped watching Yand R--about 25 years ago. It's fun to see people go against the general consensus-then realize there are more of us than originally thought.
DanaMB
Sep 26, 2009 @ 11:41 am
I don't see the big deal about Genie Francis and would rather she not ever return to GH.
AG can go anytime now, too.
I've liked Melanie pretty much from the beginning on DOOL.
I wasn't upset Steve and Kayla were written off DOOL.
I enjoy DOOL and rarely ff these days.
I kind of like Danloe on DOOL.
I hate mismashed names like Danloe.
Split Ends
Sep 26, 2009 @ 12:02 pm
I think Shane and Kayla were a fantastic couple and deserved a real story.
Just kidding. That's got to be the ultimate unpopular soap opinion.
oreo8704
Sep 26, 2009 @ 12:08 pm
I hate mismashed names like Danloe.
I do too. I've started using them more in recent years out of laziness but with a few exceptions I don't like combined couple names.
Marlies
Sep 26, 2009 @ 1:06 pm
I think Spinelli on GH is one of the most annoying characters ever and...dare I say it? He is too ugly for daytime.
I don't get the hate for Stacey on OLTL and I prefer her over that annoying gremlin, Gigi.
Nuke on ATWT is a subpar couple at best.
Otalia on GL was overrated.
Laura Wright on GH is a horrible Carly.
Liason is boring and I get why TPTB don't want to put them together.
Dinah and Shayne on GL were awful, just awful.
MulletorHater
Sep 26, 2009 @ 2:21 pm
I'm over Luke and Laura. Blah, blah, blah supercouplecakes.
I was never on the Luke and Laura bandwagon to begin with. I must have been one of the few people in America who refused to see their wedding as this wonderful event. I never got over the fact that he raped her and that she looked in her husband's face and repeatedly lied, shielded and protected her rapist and actually fell in love with him. I never got over the fact that they shit on Scotty just to make him look unreasonable (how dare he?!) for calling his wife a tramp after she abandoned him and ran off with her rapist.
Binks
Sep 26, 2009 @ 2:38 pm
John Ingle while a good actor was terribly miscast as Edward. One of the worst recasts ever. It changed Edward's characterization completely. Jed Evans (I think that is the name of the actor who came in to replace JI a few years back) was too young to be Edward but he was closer to David Lewis Edward than JI ever has been. They should kill Edward off and bring him on as a previously unknown brother or cousin of Edward's.
Add me to the list of people who was never a Luke & Laura fan. Scotty/Laura all the way.
Claire Labine's best GH story was not the heart transplant or the Stone/Aids story. It was the Scotty/Dominique romance. Best characterization and best plotted story she ever did on GH.
Every actor on GH is okay at best with the exception of Jane Elliot and Ron Hale and even Jane Elliot is starting to ham it up like TG.
Both Robin Christopher and Ric Hearst while excellant at the technical aspects of their craft have the charisma of wet noodles and couldn't generate chemistry with co-stars if they had a bunson burner and some chemicals in front of them.
Ignacio Serrachio (Diego) while a terrible technical actor while on GH was a chemistry magnate. Skills can be developed. That type of charisma cannot.
FlamingWench79
Sep 26, 2009 @ 2:39 pm
Also...I don't get why people think Chrystal Chappell is so amazing. I mean, I think she's good, but people think she's the Greatest Actor Ever. Which I definitely don't see. I want to...I just can't.
Ditto. I think she's fabulous in her own right, but I can think of several daytime actresses that can run rings around her.
Johnathan and Tammy on GL? I hated that pairing with the white hot intensity of a thousand suns. They were cousins.....by blood. Yuck, yuck, and more yuck. I'll go even further and say that I can't stand Tom Pelphrey (sp?) either. He was one of the many reasons why I tuned out of GL. I couldn't stomache anymore of his overacting and scenery chewing.
IMO the one true Emily is Melanie Smith. Period.
OMG, I miss her so much! And yes, when I think of Emily, I still think of Melanie Smith's version.
I just don't understand the enduring popularity of Victor Newman, and Y&R's constant focus on him makes that show unwatchable for me.
As a longtime viewer of Y&R, whom recently ceased her viewership, I understand. I'm not only sick of the character, I'm also sick of the actor who portrays him. He's well past his prime and mumbles through all of his scenes.
IMO there is ZERO chemistry between Chance and Chloe on Y&R. Watching them together is the equivalent of watching paint dry. I also feel the same way about Katie and Bill on B&B.
I hate mismashed names like Danloe.
Ditto.
I also wish soaps (the American ones) would stop with writing gay storylines. No, I'm not a homophobe, but I have yet to see anyone really go balls to wall and writing a good, compelling story that is character driven and not all about the "shock value" (I'm looking squarely at you Y&R). I would have much more respect for these writers if they would just admit that they're too chicken to write a gay story, instead of feeding viewers the same line of bs everytime they are questioned about it (looking at you too, Ellen Wheeler). Although, I think OLTL has been doing an ok job (just started watching so I'm trying to play catch up).
pjamma
Sep 26, 2009 @ 2:47 pm
I enjoyed the Sonny and Emily story on GH.
It feels good to get that out.
oreo8704
Sep 26, 2009 @ 3:07 pm
Both Robin Christopher and Ric Hearst while excellant mechanical actors have the charisma of wet noodles and couldn't generate chemistry with co-stars if they had a bunson burner and some chemicals in front of them.
I thought Robin Christopher had good chemistry with Ted King and John Bolger but I didn't think she had any with Anthony Geary, although I'm not sure if that is an unpopular opinion or not.
While I don't think he is a bad actor I think Anthony Geary is very overrated in terms of acting ability and charisma.
Hatpin
Sep 26, 2009 @ 3:50 pm
I don't believe there is a behind-the-scenes conspiracy to destroy soaps. I believe a combination of poor judgment, sloppy writing, and bad decisions are combining with changes in the way people watch television and doing tremendous damage to the genre, but I don't think the people who work on soaps hate them and want to destroy them from within. I think sometimes the desperation to save a show is what leads to the terrible decisions that sink it, such as GL's production style during the last couple of years.
oreo8704
Sep 26, 2009 @ 4:26 pm
I don't believe there is a behind-the-scenes conspiracy to destroy soaps. I believe a combination of poor judgment, sloppy writing, and bad decisions are combining with changes in the way people watch television and doing tremendous damage to the genre, but I don't think the people who work on soaps hate them and want to destroy them from within. I think sometimes the desperation to save a show is what leads to the terrible decisions that sink it, such as GL's production style during the last couple of years.
I agree. I don't think TPTB are incompetent but not intentially tanking the soaps.
BluBelle
Sep 26, 2009 @ 5:17 pm
Holy cow! I want to marry this thread and give it babies. Here are my OLTL UOs:
I enjoyed the hell out of Tarty. TSJ and SH had such crazy white-hot chemistry that even though I didn't want to love it...I did. I knew it had to end but damn; it was dark and twisty and gnarly in the extreme and took the soapiest of risks. Don't judge me - like the thread title says, there's no accounting for taste.
I adore skanky Stacy and her side kick second slut Kimmie. And anything they can do to stick it to Rex and Gigi is a-okay by me.
I miss Spencer Truman.
I never liked the character of Evangeline and thought REG was merely an adequate actress.
I think TSJ is a brilliant soap actor and when he wants to, he brings a lot to his portrayal of Todd.
There's more, but I'd best stop for now before I truly embarrass myself.
daniel82
Sep 26, 2009 @ 5:37 pm
Yeah...if you talk too long, we on the OLTL board might trace the call. :)
I sort of agree on Stacey. Giving her a talk-to character (Kim) finally gives me a chance to listen to her thought processes (or lack of them) and attempt to understand. Back in the stem-cell fiasco period, I wanted her to get run over by a bus.
My UO on OLTL is that I hatehatehate David Vickers and his schtick with the reality show was awful. All the in-jokes and double entendres screamed "writers trying to be overly clever". Having the actor drop in every time he's on break from Desperate Housewives is a disservice to the full-timers at OLTL whose screen time is reduced.
I think the new Adam on Y&R isn't any better than the old one.
I don't think anyone could have made that new production model on GL work, so I don't hold any grudge against Ellen Wheeler. In fact, I kind of feel bad for her.
sixesses
Sep 26, 2009 @ 5:41 pm
I think the Unpopular Opinion would be to like TGVN.
The soap conspiracy to me is the conspiracy to keep useless people employed when they could keep better actors employed.
I also like TSJ a lot, and thought his scenes with Marty were among his best, she won an emmy for it, and I never could even stand the site of RHowarth. I tried to watch some of his scenes yesterday. Yeesh.
Rodney
Sep 26, 2009 @ 7:03 pm
My UOs?
I was always rooting for Gwen over Theresa on
Passions.
I'd long wanted Theresa to give wishy-washy Ethan the heave-ho and make a play for, maybe, Noah.
As a black man, I'm liking more black characters showing up on OLTL.
I like Victoria Rowell, but I never saw the appeal of Drucilla on Y&R, for some reason. Didn't hate her, but didn't like her, either.
I actually
liked Patrick Lockhart on DAYS and rooted for him whenever Bo went on venom-filled rants against him with no shred of proof of him being a bad guy.
I also have liked Melanie Layton from the beginning on DAYS.
In Bo and Hope's current marital troubles, I'm siding with Hope over Bo.
I like Frankie and Randi both as individuals and as a couple on AMC.
After all of his venom-filled rants on Alison Stewart, I'm so far over Tom Hughes on ATWT (though I still do like Scott Holmes and think he's a terrific actor).
I like Janet, Liberty, and Teri Ciccone on ATWT. And though she can annoy me at times, I still do like Meg Snyder on that same show.
Binks
Ignacio Serrachio (Diego) while a terrible technical actor while on GH was a chemistry magnate.
I actually thought he was terrible with Adrianne Leon's Brook Lynn, but he smoked with Kirsten Storms's Maxie and Julie Marie Berman's Lulu, and I'd have loved it if TPTB had let Diego give it a real shot with either of them.
FlamingWench79
Sep 26, 2009 @ 7:38 pm
I was always rooting for Gwen over Theresa on Passions.
When I used to watch Passions, I always pulled for Gwen. Even when I quit watching, I was still hoping that Gwen would get her man. I love Lindsey Hartley as an actress but as Theresa, she bugged
hard.
Even though he has had many bouts of assholery, I still like Billy and Chloe together on Y&R.
The one and ONLY Craig Montgomery for me will always be Scott Bryce. I absolutely hated Hunt Block's take on Craig.
This is from a few posts ago, but I never understood the mass appeal viewers had for Luke and Laura on GH.
DanaMB
Sep 26, 2009 @ 7:56 pm
I, too, rooted for Gwen over Theresa.
Although I absolutely hated they way GH killed her off in order to get rid of her, I was never a huge Georgie fan. I think they should have let her just go off to college, but I don't really miss the character.
Buzzspark
Sep 26, 2009 @ 8:26 pm
I also wish soaps (the American ones) would stop with writing gay storylines. No, I'm not a homophobe, but I have yet to see anyone really go balls to wall and writing a good, compelling story that is character driven and not all about the "shock value" (I'm looking squarely at you Y&R). I would have much more respect for these writers if they would just admit that they're too chicken to write a gay story, instead of feeding viewers the same line of bs everytime they are questioned about it (looking at you too, Ellen Wheeler). Although, I think OLTL has been doing an ok job (just started watching so I'm trying to play catch up).
I say keep the gay stories coming. I would rather see half-assed than nothing. I think these types of stories appeal to a good part of the audience, gay and straight. Sometimes, you have to start small to create a change. Without Luke and Noah, I doubt there would have been a Fish and Kyle. OLTL is doing the best job I've seen yet. The characters being used started off as small side characters. Through this story, they've been able to add dimension to them while avoiding stereotypes. Just last week Kyle was making out with a guy who wasn't even the other main "gay" in the story. And it wasn't spoiled. It was just a normal part of the episode. It was enough to give me faith the writers are committed to the story so I'm more than willing to go along for the ride.
My gay UO would be that I don't mind cliches like Ameera marrying Noah or Natalia being pregnant with Frank's baby. I want my gays to be treated just like the rest of the characters in soap land. If that means they have to deal with some crappy plot contrivances and annoying third party interlopers then so be it. If the straights have to deal with it then so should the gays.
Jack Malloy
Sep 26, 2009 @ 8:35 pm
For a while, my big unpopular opinions were my hatred of Jarlena and Shelle, but ultimately both couples became pretty unpopular in everyone's opinion, so I think I'm with the majority now.
Steve and Kayla also did nothing for me, and I liked them more individually than together. They're, frankly, just a blonde Bope.
I loathe E.J. and how terribly written he is. I'm a big fan of redeemed villains, but they've botched his
terribly. He's a poor man's Jack Deveraux, through and through.
I think, in the grand scheme of things, Tom Langan (HW from 1999 - 2002) did a terrific job. He may not be 80s/early 90s quality and yes, he focused too much on the teens, but he was better than most anyone else post-1993.
On the One Life to Live front, I like Rex and Gigi as characters but hate them as a couple. Gigi shows way more chemistry with Schuyler and I, frankly, have trouble buying Rex as a romantic lead at all. I find David less over-the-top than that guy, sometimes.
I enjoyed the hell out of Tarty. TSJ and SH had such crazy white-hot chemistry that even though I didn't want to love it...I did. I knew it had to end but damn; it was dark and twisty and gnarly in the extreme and took the soapiest of risks. Don't judge me - like the thread title says, there's no accounting for taste.
Here, here. I echo that sentiment exactly. They were awesome together, and while ultimately I know they can't end up together and Todd needs to end up with Blair... still. Amazing chemistry. That's probably my number one unpopular opinion too.
I think TSJ is a brilliant soap actor and when he wants to, he brings a lot to his portrayal of Todd.
That's only an unpopular opinion here, I think. Most places TSJ still remains very popular. I think he is, far and away, the best part of OLTL. He ever leaves, so will I, probably.
And finally, I think in its earliest years Passions was pretty good. James Reilly actually created a good soap and good characters, but he ran it into the ground. But by 2004 it was a shadow of its former self and by 2006/7 it was just unwatchable.
TobinAlbers
Sep 26, 2009 @ 8:47 pm
Let's see...
I like Sharon on Y&R and still root for Nick and Sharon despite the shoddy writing for their story.
On B&B I love when Stephanie pokes her nose into everyone's business- Brooke and Ridge, Steffi and Rick, Eric and Donna. Susan Flannery just brings it with the drama and rage and it's just so cathartic to watch her tell people off. Even if she's being a hypocrite, LOL.
On DAYS, I want Brady and Nicole, part deux, for Brady to become grayer and embrace his Kiriakis/DiMera roots to battle EJ and Nicole to actually win a man she wants for once.
I rooted for Gwen on Passions and thought Teresa was psychotic and should've never had a happy ending. Also Passion, IMO, was as entertaining and in some cases better than a number of soaps currently on the air. It knew what it was and embraced it and it had diversity and cast interactions that put all the other soaps to shame.
Cinabuns
Sep 26, 2009 @ 8:55 pm
I am in fact a fan of John McBain. It just works for me. And have rooted for Jason and Carly for years.
Go ahead try and top it.
pjamma
Sep 26, 2009 @ 9:00 pm
Cinabuns, I see your John McBain and raise you a Cole.
DanaMB
Sep 26, 2009 @ 9:04 pm
I think, in the grand scheme of things, Tom Langan (HW from 1999 - 2002) did a terrific job. He may not be 80s/early 90s quality and yes, he focused too much on the teens, but he was better than most anyone else post-1993.
I truly thought I was the only one who thought he did a good job.
DimSome
Sep 26, 2009 @ 9:15 pm
I always liked Liz Kiefer's Blake over Sherry Stringfield's version.
I adored Robert Kelker Kelly as Bo Brady and only tolerate Peter Reckell.
Ellen Wheeler was a great Marley Love. Jensen Buchanan was an adequate Vicky. But Anne Heche forever owns both roles to me. Whenever I think about the show, I automatically insert Anne--no matter the time period.
After nearly a decade, I am still unable to accept Natalie as Viki and Clint's daughter on OLTL. It's not that I don't like the character; it's more that I cannot believe the storyline. And that's saying a lot given some of the crazy stuff I've accepted from my soaps.
Another World's Cass Winthrop belonged with Kathleen McKinnon--not Frankie Frame.
I cannot stomach Julie Pinson on any soap. Ever. I don't dislike the actress or any of the characters she's played, but the sound of her voice sends me reaching for my remote. I think she's pretty and hear she's a fine actress, but I'll never know because I simply can't bear to listen to her.
annsterg
Sep 26, 2009 @ 9:36 pm
And have rooted for Jason and Carly for years.
GAH! it makes me feel warm and fuzzy knowing someone else shares this. I started watching GH again AFTER Original Recipe Carly and Jason had sex and waited and waited and WAITED for them to get together again. SB and SBu had (have?) crazy chemistry and I wanted them together in the worst way. <whispering because this really seems UO: I think Jason is sexy. There, I said it.>
I cannot stomach Julie Pinson on any soap. Ever. I don't dislike the actress or any of the characters she's played, but the sound of her voice sends me reaching for my remote.
And I'll see you your Julie Pinson voice, and raise you Kim Mc on GH. I can't stand her voice so Robin has no chance with me, even if I did like her character. Which I don't.
Another UO: On B&B, I have liked Brooke better with ANY of her pairings OTHER than Ridge.
I thought Josh on AMC was soo hot. What a waste.
I loathe what GH did to A.J. & how he was always vilified by Sonny, Jason, & Carly.
A slightly different take: I loathe what they did to AJ when they recast him with Billy Warlock. In fact, I've never cared for any character BW has played. Once he was playing AJ, it was understandable to me how AJ became the huge perennial weak pathetic loser he morphed into, because to me that's what BW does best. Sean Kanan is the one true AJ.
vildachaia
Sep 26, 2009 @ 9:38 pm
I, too, thought Jed Allen was closer to David Lewis than John Ingle is. And I liked him as Edward.
On OLTL, I still think there's hope for JPL. And I like ME when he smiles, which, true, is a rare occurance. And while I like KDP, I'm apathetic when it comes to Blair.
I hate, hate, hate Tamara Braun with the red hot fire of a thousand nuns.
Soapwide, while I applaud the use of cast integration, and think long term relationships of any kind (not just romance) are the backbone of soaps, I don't believe any one is "owed" a job or "too big" to take a pay cut. I may find some cuts short sighted, but I understand business decisions.
adixon99
Sep 26, 2009 @ 9:40 pm
My UO's:
I, too, love Gloria on Y & R. For some reason, I always find her entertaining. I still miss the first Mac( Ashley Bashioum) & think all the other ones were poor imitations of her. I also, like John McBain on OLTL & especially enjoyed him with Evangeline. I never did get all the John/Natalie love or why anyone liked them as a couple. I also love TSJ & wished TPTB had gone there & paired Todd up with Evangeline. Melanie Smith is the only Emily on ATWT, even though I like KMH. I loathe what GH did to A.J. & how he was always vilified by Sonny, Jason, & Carly. Stephanie on B & B rocks. No matter what she does, I love it. I also liked the Cooper family on GL & didn't find them as irritating as alot of the board does. Marina & Mallet kind of grew on me & I always thought Marina & Alan-Michael had smoking chemistry.
BondGirl
Sep 26, 2009 @ 9:47 pm
I never got the appeal of Luke and Laura either--the rape=romance thing, obviously. I could never watch a single one of their lovey-dovey scenes without cringing.
I hated every moment of GH's Jason and Robin. I thought they were unbelievably dull and incredibly sanctimonious. Similarly, I've hated Jason Morgan since the day he opened his eyes and set about treating nearly all of his loved ones like crap.
I LIKED GH's Lily and I liked Sonny and Lily together. More than Sonny and Brenda? No, but I didn't hate Lily and I'm sick of her being maligned for simply talking to Sonny when no one ever said a word about Brenda's constant dry-humping of Miguel.
I thought Jacob Young and Natalia Livingston where perfectly fine as GH's Lucky and Emily, respectively, even if they were light years behind their predecessors.
I thought Jennifer Bransford could have been a fine Carly if given the chance.
I hate OLTL's Rex and Gigi and hate that Adriana had to be bitch-fied in order to make them work--but I hate Stacy too.
I don't think Todd and Blair have worked together since the first go-round in 1995.
I think Malone missed a golden opportunity for a Rebecca/Todd/Blair/Cord quad back in 1994/95.
Rodney
Sep 26, 2009 @ 9:51 pm
Two more UOs I've got:
I prefer Arianna's original, short-lived portrayer, Felisha Terrell on DAYS and that she had a calmer, more mature take on the role than current portrayer Lindsay Hartley's overacting tendencies, though I'm okay with her in the role, as well. I like both portayers' versions with Eric Martsolf's Brady, though.
I actually think Jack's current relationship with, and marriage to, Janet, while a bit rushed (seriously -- only dated five months before getting married!), is way better than any of his relationships with Carly on ATWT.
Bchick
Sep 26, 2009 @ 10:32 pm
Otalia on GL was overrated.
Count me in with that opinion too. Totally overrated and not a compelling love story EVER even though I thought the actresses were good.
I never hated Melanie on
DOOL even when the actress chewed scenery up and down the sets. I also like Melanie and Philip together.
I hated Jason/Robin on
GH and always wanted SB's Carly and Jason together.
Kendall/Ryan is disgusting. I'd rather he be with Erica.
I think writers obsession with The Great Victor Newman being god-like is killing
Y & RI don't like Chloe on
Y & R and don't care about seeing her with any man but rather prefer her to leave Genoa City. Like the actress since
AMC but the character of Chloe is a bust.
I've always liked Bo more with his other love interests than with Hope on
DOOL.
I've never liked
B & B's Brooke.
BondGirl
Sep 26, 2009 @ 10:32 pm
Speaking of which. . .
I REALLY hated that the ATWT writers destroyed Julia to facilitate Jack and Carly. And I do mean destroyed--she went from an all around nice girl, even if she was a Mary Sue-type, to complete madwoman. And for what? For Jack and Carly to do their perpetual on-again, off-again thing?
For that matter, substitute GL, Annie, and Josh and Reva and you'll get my feelings on THAT storyline (even if Cynthia Watros did some of soaps best acting EVER).
I would have loved it both women had wised up and dumped the jerks and escaped with their dignity and sanity intact.
oreo8704
Sep 26, 2009 @ 10:39 pm
Kendall/Ryan is disgusting. I'd rather he be with Erica.
I agree. I would much rather watch a Ryan/Erica romance than see Kendall reunite with him.
SimoneS
Sep 26, 2009 @ 10:59 pm
So many:
Brian Frons is trying to save ABC soaps and does not micromanage them any where near to the extent that the online rumors suggest. Fans blame him wrongly for decisions made by EPs and headwriters.
I never liked Reva. She has always got on my nerves. I wanted Josh to stay with Harley.
I'm not buying Olivia as a lesbian. Since she arrived in Springfield, she has loved three things; money, power, and penises.
Carly was more entertaining with Hunt Block's Craig than sanctimonious Jack. I blame Jack's emotional cowardice and game playing for making Julia crazy.
I never liked Holden and Lily. Lily and Damian were the best. She grew up and became a woman with him. He was the most beautiful man I had ever seen.
I always have hated TGVN from Y&R and Brooke from B&B.
I can't stand Kelly Hensley as Emily. I still miss Melanie Smith.
I could not stand Dixie. Brooke had been so nice to her and she turned around had an affair with Adam. Dixie never was held accountable for her action. I preferred Tad with Brooke.
I will always prefer Bo and Lindsay to Bo and Nora.
I prefer Sami with Lucas over her other love interests.
I have never gotten the hype about Sarah Brown. As an actress, she lacks subtlety and loves to draw all the attention to herself in every scene. She is overrated.
DimSome~ After nearly a decade, I am still unable to accept Natalie as Viki and Clint's daughter on OLTL. It's not that I don't like the character; it's more that I cannot believe the storyline. And that's saying a lot given some of the crazy stuff I've accepted from my soaps.
Same here. I watched Jessica being born. I don't believe for a second that Natalie is really Viki and Clint's daughter. It is too preposterous.
Tellitlikeitis
Sep 26, 2009 @ 11:12 pm
My UO's. Warning these are my honest opinions and may offend some ;-)
GL-Crystal Chappell is overrated. The botox and the lip collagen is very distracting. I like my tears with real waterworks thank you. Ellen Wheeler wasn't a bad EP. Loved the find your light themes and inside the light episodes. I will never hate on her because I don't know what it is like to oversee a soap that was on the cancel block for years. I also liked the ending. It went back to the roots of GL which was family.
GH-Megan Ward couldn't act out of a paper bag, and I was glad to see LisaL replace her character. I don't mind the mob stories or the stunt events. Seriously.
Y&R- Hated, hated, hated VR's Dru. I don't need to be reminded that Dru is black and sassy(this is coming from a Black woman) and the way VR is talking shit about YR castmates shows that she isn't very professional. MTS could have left the show.
B&B KKL is overrated to me also.
AMC-Eden R voice got on my nerves. I wouldn't mind if Susan Lucci doesn't make the move to LA.
OLTL- I like John Mcbain. I like the dark, brooding type of men on my soaps.
DOOL- Kristian Alfonso can't act. Another one who cannot generate tears to save her life. I wasn't mad when the fired all the vets. The show did not suffer. Although I don't like that they are making Crystal Chappell to be the second coming of Christ on this show.
ATWT- Maura West is overrated. She didn't deserve that Emmy in 2007.
FlamingWench79
Sep 26, 2009 @ 11:45 pm
I say keep the gay stories coming. I would rather see half-assed than nothing. I think these types of stories appeal to a good part of the audience, gay and straight. Sometimes, you have to start small to create a change. Without Luke and Noah, I doubt there would have been a Fish and Kyle. OLTL is doing the best job I've seen yet. The characters being used started off as small side characters. Through this story, they've been able to add dimension to them while avoiding stereotypes. Just last week Kyle was making out with a guy who wasn't even the other main "gay" in the story. And it wasn't spoiled. It was just a normal part of the episode. It was enough to give me faith the writers are committed to the story so I'm more than willing to go along for the ride.
I get what your saying. I'm still a relatively new viewer to OLTL and I'll admit, sofar I like what I see with Kyle and Fish.
Natalia being pregnant with Frank's baby.
Another UO: I didn't understand all the hatred fans had for the Coopers, especially Frank. I didn't feel that the whole show revolved around the Coopers. I also didn't think it was fair for all the Frank hate because he was interfering with Otalia. Natalia slept with Frank willingly and without protection.
Another UO: On B&B, I have liked Brooke better with ANY of her pairings OTHER than Ridge.
Crazy as it might sound, I thought Brooke's best relationship was with Thorne.
I never liked Holden and Lily. Lily and Damian were the best. She grew up and became a woman with him. He was the most beautiful man I had ever seen.
I was on the Holden and Lily train until she returned married to Damian. Don't think for a minute I wasn't throwing things at the tv when Damian and Lily were split up so she could go back to Holden. HAAAAAATE!
I wasn't that into Professor Korbel and Colleen on Y&R. I also like Sharon but hate what they have done to the character.
BondGirl
Sep 27, 2009 @ 12:02 am
Same here. I watched Jessica being born. I don't believe for a second that Natalie is really Viki and Clint's daughter. It is too preposterous.
Speaking of which, and I doubt this is unpopular. . .
I absolutely HATE retcons that mess with something we've seen (or haven't seen) onscreen. Don't tell us OLTL's Jess and Natalie are twins when we all saw Jess being born, don't tell us four GL characters were involved in a young woman's death 20 years ago when we KNOW nothing like that happened, don't tell us Luke cheated on Laura at a time when they were ONSCREEN as a blissfully happy couple.
Eden R voice got on my nerves
Mine too. I think EVERY actress who has ever played Bianca has gotten on my nerves somehow. At least ER could act.
I always have hated TGVN from Y&R and Brooke from B&B.
I will second your opinion of Brooke--KKL's voice gets on my last nerves, but grudgingly admit that I do NOT hate TGVN. Is he my favorite character? Hell, NO. But I just don't get that "boil him in oil" feeling when he's onscreen.
I never liked Reva. She has always got on my nerves.
Ditto.
I could not stand Dixie. Brooke had been so nice to her and she turned around had an affair with Adam. Dixie never was held accountable for her action.
I thought Dixie was, as Janet once described her, a "self-righteous ninny", as well as a grade-A hypocrite. She blasts Brooke for sleeping with Tad, when she had an affair with Adam (who admittedly took advantage of her, but still), and she blasts Tad for his drug-induced one-night stand with Leslie. . .then turns around and publicly carries on a months long affair with David.
pjamma
Sep 27, 2009 @ 12:06 am
I don't hate Y&R Sharon's hair. Sometimes I even like it.
Ashley Abbot is one of the worst soap characters of all time.
I've always liked Cricket (or Christine).
Billie Jean
Sep 27, 2009 @ 12:22 am
DOOL- Kristian Alfonso can't act. Another one who cannot generate tears to save her life.
Agreed. I only watched DOOL briefly but I couldn't stand her as Hope. Also, I think 98% of the DOOL cast are scenery chewers and can't act.
I also prefer Natalia Livingston's Emily over Amber Tamblyn. Amber's Emily was overbearingly obnoxious to me.
I hate, hate, HATE Jolivia on and and Olivia in general. I am rooting for her and Sonny so I can FF them both at the same time. Also I find Lisa L. to be very unattractive.
I don't mind that Mac doesn't have much screentime, either. I think John York works best in small doses.
I'm another Jason/Carly shipper for way back. I originally tuned out in 2000 when Carly/Sonny had Hate!Sex.
I floved Sexis and hated that he went back to Carly.
I hate LW as Carly. I don't think she's a fit- she's too cheery to be Carly. I never saw CarJax's chemistry either.
And here is the most extreme unpopular opinion <small voice>, I didn't mind Courtney or the Fab Four.I loved her with AJ too. I only hated her when she was going back and forth between Jax and Nick.
Tamara Braun was my favorite Carly.
Jaclynovascotia
Sep 27, 2009 @ 12:22 am
I think I have many unpopular opinions:
Days of our Lives: Steve and Kayla bored me although I recognize they were played by very good actors. But charisma-less, IMO. I thought Marcus Patrick was right when he said that daytime doesn't allow men to portray real men. Daytime male characters are neutered for the most part. When Shawn and Belle exchanged purity rings, I thought that was ridiculous, not romantic, just foolish. I like men who act like sex is important to them. I don't think KA is too thin. I think she's just right.
One Life to Live: I think Robin Strasser overacts, although I think she has charisma and screen presence. But for technical prowess, I think she's a distant second to Erika Slezak. I don't think Tuc Watkins can act if it's a really serious scene. His latest scene with Bo made him look like a pale imitation of Forrest Gump.
Passions: If the situation between Theresa and Ethan had been reversed, he would have been arrested for stalking, viewed as a criminal, etc. She should have been institutionalized. The least romantic heroine in history. Gwen went too far after a while, but initially anything she did was just in self defense against this deranged psychopath.
General Hospital: I don't think Jacob Young shouted through all of his scenes, and think he's a very, very good actor now on AMC (although I haven't watched recently). I was riveted by Robert Kelker-Kelly's portrayal of Stavros (and loved that whole storyline) that was terminated because of September 11.
All My Children: I think it was very selfish of Eden Riegel to leave the 1st time she left. These actors should know when they have the 'type' to succeed in other genres, and she doesn't. As evidenced by the fact I haven't heard about her since she left. And she totally derailed the show. Yes, daytime writers suck for the most part now (except for Ron C. on OLTL and Dena H. on DOOL), but I don't think actors like ER get enough blame for messing up storylines with leaving at inopportune times. If actors aren't going to be dedicated to the shows that made them famous, then viewers shouldn't be loyal either. The babyswitch storyline was awesome, IMO, and soapiness at its best. ER left and the momentum was completely gone.
Nelson Branco can go too far sometimes, but I think he's adorable and fun, rather than overly creepy. I at least find him very interesting.
And I hate, hate, hate it when women slap men's faces on daytime at the drop of a hat. And the men just take it. Not that I want the women slugged back, but violence is violence. I do not find it romantic, amusing, desirable or worth watching.
pjamma
Sep 27, 2009 @ 12:25 am
I didn't mind Courtney
You are very brave. But I kinda liked her too.