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allergic2love
Ok, guys, who put the acid in my water? BoogieFever!Lena didn't actually happen, right? Right???


You ever see something that was sooo unbelievably embarassing for a person that it actually brought you pain and made you ill even though you weren't the person doing it? Yeah...that was it.
kariyaki
I think I'm gonna watch Monday's ep kariyaki style and count on you guys explaining the parts I was too stoned to understand.

Oh, fine. Make me sound like a brain dead freak. Hey wait. Monday's ep? Today was Friday?
2deadcows
BWAH!, allergic2love. Grace from Once & Again did that to me all the time.

I only saw the last half of the show, so I missed BoggieFever!Lena (heh, btw). Do I dare rewind tape tonight?

And this:
Eden, rock on, Rhythmless Nation.


cracked me UP.
Mystic0
You ever see something that was sooo unbelievably embarassing for a person that it actually brought you pain and made you ill even though you weren't the person doing it? Yeah...that was it.


Hee! Actually that's happened to me many, many times over my years of watching this show. I'm used to seeing Eden having to do spazztastic things, but this was the first time it's happened with Olga. My prayer is that the whole lot of them were righteously drunk before filming. God knows I wish I were drunk while watching.

Oh, fine. Make me sound like a brain dead freak. Hey wait. Monday's ep? Today was Friday?


Bwah!
SkiffyPup
Olga, that was the best impression of Elaine on Sinefeld I have seen ... ETA: since Bianca on the pool table!

Bianca is right. You HAVE lost you mind, Lena. Turn the music on first. I am 9 minutes in to this ep and I am laughing my ass off. maggie rhetorical question followed by Lena entrance... another Sinefeldian moment.

Welcome, Les lie.
kariyaki
Okay, now that this Asscicle storyline seems to be winding down, I just want to take this opportunity to vent my frustration on how LONG it fucking took. Almost six months. That's about four months too long. For example, ATWT. They just had a murder mystery come about in the last week of December and the killer was revealed today. Wham bang boom. Granted, that's a little fast and I would have been fine with another month of investigation but (going back over to AMC) SIX MONTHS?! I'm so glad this is almost over. It made me miss Proteus at times.
2deadcows
Damn, was Lena that bad? Elaine? For real? At least Elaine was intentionally funny. Why are they doing this to Lena? Why can't they just leave Maggie and Bianca to the stupid shit and ugly-ass "youthful" clothes? Whyyyyyy? Speaking of clothes, what horrors did Punisher inflict upon Lena today? Did she at least retain some dignity?

WORD, kariyaki. I really don't care who killed Asscicle. Never did. And if those previews are any indication, the big 'reveals' may be as cheesy as the demonic baby with Michael's head in the crib scenes. It's past time to leave this portion of the storyline behind.
SkiffyPup
Lena looks ubersexy in a tight pair of bluejeans and a tight blue top.
Maggie is wearing an ugly shirt with a giantass flower on the front.
Thanks, Punisher! I heart you hardcore!
Bianca is still in the odd top with the scarf front.
drmom24
Damn, was Lena that bad? Elaine? For real?
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ITA 2deadcows. Then, on to Macarena? Ay Macarena. Ay, Mags+Lena.
SkiffyPup
If I have seen anything more swoonworthy than the glory of nude Minshew, I cannot recall.
kariyaki
I'm sorry, what? Nude who in the what now? Did I miss something by only listening to the show today?
Black Knight
2deadcows, Olga had on a dark, deep blue top--the color looked gorgeous on her. Her hair's a bit too long, though. And I didn't know anyone still danced the macarena...I had to snicker when Bianca woke up from her nightmare and Maggie crashed into Lena in her rush to get to Bianca first. Lena, next time just raise your foot and stomp her flat.

Nuts, the spoilers were a little off in the timing. Oh well, Monday should be fun. I certainly wasn't expecting First Evil Assicle to pull a Carrie move. I actually like it, though, because it means that he's actively taunting everyone in their nightmares. It's not just the subconscious of Erica, Kendall, et al tormenting them. Assicle was a sick S.O.B., so the torture he devises ought to be interesting. For some reason I was bizarrely amused at his complaining in the previews of "I'm not going to let you get away with what you did to me" or whatever. Maybe because it's such vintage, typical Michael. Mikey, if you hadn't raped Bianca and then lied about it, you'd at least still be alive. Good to know he's still a weasel.

And word, kariyaki, to the murder SL dragging out too long. It started off really strong--I just adored the first two weeks in particular--and then it lost steam. First off, it took too long for the body to be found, and second off, it took too long for Kendall to be arrested, and third off, it took too long for the trial to start. Hopefully the trial will go pretty quickly, and it could be rather entertaining, what with Judge Lampert, Livia, Kendall, Forehead DA, and Tarzan.

But Proteus, OTOH, had me bored from day one. It didn't help that a lot of the characters involved were ones I despised. I so don't miss Mateo's fingerpointing.

Oh, and while Kendall looked great in her half-nude state, I have to admit it was sort of spoiled for me because I was wondering why she had the wrong leg thrown over Ryan. It looked dreadfully awkward for Alicia.
kariyaki
Hopefully the trial will go pretty quickly, and it could be rather entertaining, what with Judge Lampert, Livia, Kendall, Forehead DA, and Tarzan.

Yeah, I'm actually working on Wednesday's recap right now and I have this little sidebar going about how much I'm going to love the trial even though I normally hate them on soaps. With the fire of a thousand suns.

And I missed naked Kendall, huh? I'll get it on SoapNet later, I guess.
SkiffyPup
Seriously Karyaki. You must SEE it. Hottie McHottie. Hipview and backview and sideview with only her arm blocking breastview. OMG.

BTW- I love Jack and Erica today lots and lots. Two snarks... Susan honey, your claw... keep it off the pretty man's face. And Walt ... raise your arms when you get a spray tan.
Black Knight
I'm all for Jack/Erica because it means getting the extended Kane-Montgomery family, but...I never want to hear Jack talk about Erica rocking his world again, thanks. And I groaned when Erica started in on the storm crap. No. More. Storms.
2deadcows
Okay, I am somewhat mollified that Lena got to hold onto an infinitesimal iota of self-respect with her clothes. But, seriously, the Macarena? Why? Whyyyyy? That’s just wrong. I may have to FF through these scenes out of sheer self-preservation.

And, based upon what you all have said about Kendall’s wardrobe, or lack thereof, it looks like allergic2love shares the “AllSeeingEye” with Opal. So which Powerball numbers should I pick tonight?
SkiffyPup
2deadcows,
They had to do the macarena because Maggie objected to the hustle. Notwithstanding my snarky comments above... Olga can outmove Elaine and Bianca. She was cute. But.. how to have rythmn with no music? BWAH! That was so funny. The incredulous stares from the fudgesicle crew were priceless. My own face was the same.

"OMG... is Lena on crack? WTF? LOL!" was the look they went for.
CineFille
Hey, kids--

I ususally hang out in the TFGH thread, but I was watching SoapNet and saw them advertising the "Tad the Cad" Valentine's Day event (a nice antitode to the SonnyNauseous marathon, I must say.) I don't remember anyone mentioning it here . . .

Or maybe y'all would prefer a Kinks/Kenlee/Lianca marathon ;)
Mystic0
Lena, next time just raise your foot and stomp her flat.


Hey, accidents happen all the time. Not Lena's fault. Heh.

Speaking of Lena, I did find it rather amusing that she researched the 'entertainment', right down to the funkadelic, hip cat speak. Yeah, it might have been awful, but it reminded me of the good ol' days of Lena and her anal little "Lianca does Europe" itinerary. (Hmm, that sentence sounds oddly suggestive despite being a non-Kinks sentence. Huh. Not intentional, folks.) It was also good to see Lena is going to be inviting herself over anytime she feels like it. Hee! Maggie will be sooooo happy.

I still don't quite get what they're doing with the Maggie part of the triangle. Being irritating doesn't seem to be making Bianca notice Maggie except to tell her to shut up or, at best, include Maggie whenever she happens to think of it. Lena got in a dig or two though. Hee! Poor Maggie, no one wuvs you.

Almost six months.


I hadn't realized it had been that long. Wow. I guess it was even more drawn out because they kept taking those week long breaks (for 'splosions and hitmen) from moving the murder plot on at all.

ETA:
Olga can outmove Elaine and Bianca.


Which brings me to something that's been bugging the hell outta me. Eden, and I know at this point it is highly unbelievable, can actually dance. I know because I've seen her do it at an appearance. (And by 'I', I mean a 'friend'. 'Cause *I* certainly wouldn't time visiting my dear friends in NYC around soap events. Nope, not me.) So, given my friend's (who is *not* me) intel, I can only speculate that Bianca's lack of dancing ability must be some weird acting choice. Or that Eden's downing some X at her appearances. Something, man.
sweeper
That was some seriously naked Kendall. Why, oh why, did we never get naked Kaidan sex? Oh, you say it was just to keep the TV from exploding? Geez, I can get another one.
Black Knight
Good point, Mystic0, about Lena's anal-retentive side. Must be that finance background. I don't think I've ever met a CFO who wasn't like that.

It was also good to see Lena is going to be inviting herself over anytime she feels like it. Hee! Maggie will be sooooo happy.

Hee. Yeah, Lena's definitely making a play for territory. Now that Bianca's staying in town, what with her short-term lease things are much more up in the air. She can't stay in that studio with Maggie and a baby, and Lena knows it. That said, I won't be terribly surprised if Bianca moves in with Kendall instead--all Kinks jokes aside, people! She isn't ready to live with Lena, she sure as hell doesn't want to live at Erica's even when they are on good terms, and she won't want to live alone either. Factor in that Mommy!Kendall--er, Auntie!Kendall will want as much time as possible with the baby anyway, and I can see her insisting Bianca move in with her for a while. That'd be amusing because they could snark on each other's dates. All this is, of course, assuming that La Kane doesn't pull some baby switch shit that negates Bianca needing to move anywhere.

Eden, and I know at this point it is highly unbelievable, can actually dance.

Well, I know after the infamous barroom dance, someone gave Eden a how-to-dance video. Was the appearance your friend saw her before that episode?

I also know that many times dancing scenes are actually taped with no music, so that the dialogue will record. Soaps don't do dubbing, so it's not an option the way it is with films where they can just bring the actors in the studio to record any lines that didn't come across clearly when they did the scenes originally. So that could explain the bad dancing of Eden, Olga and Liz as well.

ETA:
Why, oh why, did we never get naked Kaidan sex?

We did, actually. Once. Eons and eons ago. Sigh.
SkiffyPup
Well, I know after the infamous barroom dance, someone gave Eden a how-to-dance video. Was the appearance your friend saw her before that episode?


I was in on the conference call where that was suggested and it cracked our shit up so hard it HAD to go in. It ended up in a giftbox from Lianca Fans Unite. They gave it to her at the Aug. AMC fan luncheon. Eden roared with laughter, apparently.
kariyaki
"Apparently"? I saw the picture. Eden almost burst her kidneys laughing at that dance video.

Re: the above mentioned Valentine's Day Tad the Cad promo. ALL of the scenes they're showing are from the Fan Fantasy Day last year. Dare I to hope that they show it to us yet again? Not that I don't have it on tape but I love that they keep repeating that episode. Even THEY know it was a work of art.
Mystic0
That said, I won't be terribly surprised if Bianca moves in with Kendall instead


As much as Kinks sharing a one bedroom condo would please Pervy, I would hope that if Kinks shack up....erm, become roomies, that they'd find a new place to live. There's something deeply icky about living across from where Mikey lived, and I assume, was killed. I do agree that Kinks becoming bunk-mates, dammit, roomates is a real possibility. Plus, if Bianca ever sees how hot Kendall cleaning out her fridge is, we might get Kinks in canon. *Rowr* I know, I'm checking the sled schedule now...

Yeah, Lena's definitely making a play for territory.


Dude, she really is. Maggie may not realize it but I think her antagonism is spurring Lena on. Bianca's being nothing but welcoming, so the fact that Mags is trying to push Lena out has got to be bringing out Lena's "Oh hell no!" competitive nature. It would mine. I do wonder how Lena and Mighty Mouse are gonna settle this. I just don't see Lena letting herself get pushed around too much. Since Bianca clearly doesn't wish her to, I doubt Lena will go quietly into that good night without a helluva fight. Dear God, I'm rhyming.

Hee! Skiffy, can't believe y'all did that! That's soooooo wrong and so damn funny.
Black Knight
True, I forgot about Kendall living across from Michael and was just thinking about how she seems to have plenty of room in her condo, since I don't think it's ever been stated specifically that the condo's just one bedroom (at the very least it's bigger than the studio, but I would think there's at least a smaller second room off the hall too). But it must bug Binks a little, now that I think about it, because Kendall always visits her instead of the other way around.

*Rowr* I know, I'm checking the sled schedule now...

I think Satan just has one coming around every hour now. His recruiting's been so successful, after all, and we seem to be unceasingly pervy.

Bianca's being nothing but welcoming, so the fact that Mags is trying to push Lena out has got to be bringing out Lena's "Oh hell no!" competitive nature.

I agree, Maggie's been pushing Lena, so Lena's pushing back, and doing a much better job of it than Maggie. Of course, it helps that she's a lot subtler about it. In particular, she doesn't contradict Bianca when Bianca tries to include Maggie, instead she throws her own insincere invitation in. So right now Bianca thinks the problem is entirely on Maggie's end, and she doesn't want to dig into it too much, not that Maggie would tell her the truth anyway. Hee.

Maggie uses a sledgehammer to make a place for herself in Binks' life (which never goes over well with Bianca). Lena goes the "water" route...she just sort of pours herself into every open crack she can find. Soon Bianca's probably going to feel like she's living with two people.
SkiffyPup
I'm still on the lovetrain of seeing Bianca take Lena's hand and place it on her belly.
Lena knows to give Bianca all the initiative re: physical contact of any kind. She waits very patiently. Naggie, on the other hand, is all insecure and pushy and going to "boil the bunny" if they execute this triangle.

I agree that there is no way in hell the Nagster can outclass Lena or ever look like a secure woman in her spectacular, if occasionally dorky, presence.
Black Knight
Bwah, SkiffyPup. Thinking of Maggie boiling a bunny actually makes me interested in her character for the first time ever. AMC, PsychoMaggie is definitely the way to go here. It's not like we can take her seriously as a truly viable rival for Lena.

Mystic0, that reminds me. I think what they're shooting for with Maggie's character triangle-wise at the moment is just that "simmering" thing. So she has to be irritated so that we can see something's definitely up with her, and so we can see she's even wondering herself why she's so irritated about Lena, but since Bianca is still way too busy with everything else, it's just simmering irritation for now and no true recognition even on Maggie's part of what's going on. After all, AMC can't do a triangle when the person being fought over is sitting in court holding her other girlf--er, sister's hand.
SkiffyPup
Oh, and I real really really want Bianca to move out of the too small studio and in with Lena.
1) Maggie would freakin' go nutzo. A plus.
2) It's the only way we get to see where Lena lives.
3) Heather needs two mommies and it would be so sweet to see that Lena had thoughtfully researched the ideal nursery contents and cribs and such. Just.in.case. Ha!

ETA: FutureWorstDr.EverStone- The hustle is not dangerous for 6 mo. pregnant women. Notwithstanding your skippage of adanced anatomy this semester, you should already know this. Incompetent.
Black Knight
Heather? Anyway, I would like to see Lianca live together...but not right now. For one thing, I'm really happy that Bianca isn't of the mindset "I'm pregnant, so I might as well get married now." I totally thought that's where the pregnancy SL would go, that it'd be a lesbian cliche from start to finish--especially when Lena hauled out those commitment rings. But instead Lena's not that interested in having children, and Bianca's not rushing to wed...I like it. I want her to get back together with Lena for the right reasons and at the right pace, not because she knows that with a baby, her life would be easier with a partner. And Bianca seems to be doing just that, taking her time, making sure that it's right.

I remembered my favorite line of the day--Adam to Mary when she was telling him about choking: "Go towards the light, Mary. Go towards the light." Hee. DC's delivery just killed on that one.
Mystic0
I think what they're shooting for with Maggie's character triangle-wise at the moment is just that "simmering" thing.


Ah, I can dig that. I guess I'm just wondering what Maggie's hook ultimately will be, if this does end up being an actual romantic triangle. In the beginning, I was pretty convinced that the true intention of the triangle would be Maggie the jealous bestfriend, which is what most of what we've seen of the triangle initially supported. Then they went and showed Maggie fantasizing about Binks and her tank top and had Lena call Maggie on her possible romantic feelings toward Binks. That's where I'm getting puzzled. As you've said, Maggie doesn't seem to have any weapons in her meager arsenal to make her a proper rival to Lena in the war for Binky's affections. It doesn't help that Bianca hasn't displayed anything even approaching anything romantic towards Maggie. Which, even though Bianca's still recovering and a very busy girl, would be easy enough to do.

I mean, so is this going to be a romantic triangle or just a patch of weirdness on Maggie's part before she hops the next train to boyville? And if it *is* going the romantic route, what possible trumpcard does Maggie have that would vie with Lena, much less let her win? Even in the Kendall/Aidan/Ryan debacle, I can see why Kendall's chasing Ryan. Unfortunately. She seems to have a passion and love for the dolt (that I sooooo wish she'd snap out of) but Binks/Lena/Maggie? I. Don't. Get. It.

Anyway, I would like to see Lianca live together...but not right now.


Word. I want Lianca as much as anyone but I really don't want them playing house yet. For all the reasons you stated and because I don't want all of the interesting issues they have to be choked to death in domestic bliss. Sadly, I fear that if they were together and happyhappyhappy, that would be the end of what makes them so viable now. Plus, one of them would probably die a horrible death immediately. McT, ya know, wouldn't stand for happiness. I would actually love to see Lianca date again for awhile.
superdiva80
I thought Lena was cute today especially when she said to Maggie "Don't be such a squaarre!" I'm going to have to start saying that to people, complete with fake polish accent.
SkiffyPup
Heather Has Two Mommies is a famous children's book about a girl with two lesbian mommies. It's famous mostly for being burned or removed from libraries and never returned.

The U-Haul syndrome is a cliche' because it is true, except in the case of a certain recapper I know. Bianca and Lena have had their second date and should be living together by now. Only the rape delayed this. Oh, and they need a cat and a fight about what to do with the cat now that the baby is on the way.

I don't want them to be happy necessarily. Together doesn't mean happy. It means together.
CKD
Oh, sure: out me as the only lesbian who gets her girlfriend to move across the country only to get a place 10 minutes from my house instead of moving in. Feh.

I'm with you on the "together" thing: it means together, not wedded bliss. Or, well, hell.

And word, word, word to the comments about 1) Maggie having what? to offer and 2) Lena letting Bianca dictate the touching while Maggie can't wait to break her leg trying to get there.
SkiffyPup
Oh, sure: out me as the only lesbian who gets her girlfriend to move across the country only to get a place 10 minutes from my house instead of moving in. Feh.


BWAH! You outed yourself, dear. I just put out a Blind Item.
Now that you've said it publicly, I bet the LezPolice are on their way over to confiscate your gay card, rainbow banner, and black triangle pin. Oh, and any labarys (sp?) jewelery.
CKD
I don't have any of that. Bwah!

Speaking of Lesbian Mafia, I was asked if I planned on recapping "The L Word" and my gut reaction was - yeah, so the rest of the lesbian population can take out a contract on my head. Sweet.

What's this about the Lena/Bianca/Maggie triangle becoming a quadrangle? Or - whatever has four sides: spoilers say a fourth person will enter the mix and it's for any one of them. How does that even work?
kariyaki
The quadrangle would involve a guy for Naggie to work out her sexual frustration on. Word is that it's a relative of Ryan but NOT his brother Braden, the rapist. That pretty much just leaves them creating a whole new character because Ryan doesn't have any other previously established male relatives. Probably a cousin or something.
CKD
Did you also read that the new person is supposed to be someone from Lena's past? They've all been bombing recently, so I'm not putting too much stock in it, but it would be sorta kinda interesting.
SFHagood
Maggie & Lena help to jog Bianca's memory
Is that what the kids are calling it these days? Its so hard to keep up.

I only caught the last part, but from what you guys are saying I'll make an effort to catch the next replay. Lena looked hot, but why is Bianca still in that fugly varf? Although, it must be the going thing in preggy belly cammo to hide behind one of those things, because Grace on Will & Grace had one on Thursday night as well.

Ryan is just eww, and that is all I have to say about that.

I only started watching when Lianca came on the scene, so I don't know much backstory, but has J.R. always been such a little shit or is it just the actor?

Because while Lianca has an "i", Lena so does not.
SkiffyPup
SFHagood,
From my spot here by the West deNile mansion poolside I can almost confirm that that spoiler is a typo and they meant:
Lena and Maggie jog Bianca's mammary.

Oinkity oink.

CKD, I don't think they'd take a contract out on you. They would just hunt you on a recurring basis. Hee.
Black Knight
I agree that living together doesn't necessarily mean happy, but in Lianca's case it probably would be an excuse to shuffle them permanently to the backburner under the guise of domestic bliss. I think AMC would be very reluctant to have any problems in the relationship once Bianca actually starts living with someone who'd be a second mother to her baby. No thanks. The fact they fell in love very quickly and Lena's been mentally picking out china patterns since May is, I think, quite enough of a nod to the U-Haul cliche. Throw in the baby and I'd be on overload.

And, CKD, I'm notorious for never dating anyone more than twice, because I think three dates is a relationship and I'm a commitment-phobe. (Once is just once, twice is coincidence, three is a definite pattern...and therefore something to avoid.) I do admit that if Eden were gay I would probably change that policy, but since she's not, I have an excuse to never commit. Bwah.

I've never seen the talk about the fourth in the quadrangle being someone from Lena's past from a spoiler source--just as speculation from Olga's board, spun off the fact that the late, unlamented Chris Stamp seemed to know Lena from somewhere.

I only started watching when Lianca came on the scene, so I don't know much backstory, but has J.R. always been such a little shit or is it just the actor?

JR's long been troubled, but two actors ago he was a pretty nice guy overall. He started being something of a shit with the last actor--average spoiled rich boy stuff--and now with this JR I think AMC wants him to descend into Adam-like territory. But JY is no David Canary.
Rif_Randle
Aaaack! Dancing! Couldn't BLAM have played Truth or Dare? Or Spin-the-Bottle? Or strip poker? No bad dancing, ever!

Although I quite like Jerica, I still do not need to see post-coital bed scenes.

Aside from JR and Boobe, I loved the scenes at the Chandler mansion, with the women congregating in one room and the men in the other. I loved Mary's matter-of-factness about how, in addition to talking behind other's backs, she also enjoys eavesdropping. Anna Stuart rocks my world.

I loved the last scene, in all its soaptacular glory. Totally cheesy, of course, but Michael "rising from the grave", along with the storm, and E/K/B's nightmares set a nice, eerie tone for the next episode. It was kind of Days of Our Lives-ish, but in a good way, as I've always thought that Days did Big! Horrifying! Moments! very well.
Black Knight
Days used to, anyway. I was watching today's ep of that show and giggling at the supposed-to-be Big! Horrifying! Moments! But then it's hard to take a tiger at a funeral seriously.

Anyway, a more complete list of dreamers: Michael haunts the dreams of the principal players, including Kendall, Simone, Adam, Palmer, Lena, Bianca, Jack, Erica, Reggie and Boyd.

So, from what I remember of who was running around that night who are real suspects, that leaves David and Maggie out (and of course the happily late and unlamented Carlos), but the spoiler does say "including", so they may be dreamers too. It's not really necessary to have them if David was with Erica the entire time and if Maggie seeing Kendall and Boyd dragging out Michael's body was all of note that she saw that night. But we don't know how much the nightmares are going to entail actual flashbacks to that night and how much will just be Michael tormenting everyone.
I'm still amused for some reason by Michael whining over his fate, since he brought it on himself. Which reminds me, I will say that I thought Liz did a pretty good job with the "he got dead real fast" line today. It got a smirk out of me.
KerleyQ
Am I the only one who found the Lena dancing scenes adorable? Yes, it was embarassing, but in a "I'll make an absolute ass of myself if it will just make you smile" sort of way that just made me a little mushy. Haven't any of you ever done something embarassing in front of someone you love just to make them laugh?
And, while Lena could make it look adorable, had Maggie done it, it would have been anything but.

Anyone else catch Winifred eyeing up Officer Sean? I'm starting to like Winnie lately, now that they're letting her be a person and not just the maid.

Tad, David, Adam, and Palmer? Sign me up for an hour of that every day. That was just good times.

Since I'm becoming reluctantly resigned to the pending demise of Timone, may I offer a suggestion? Since she's already had a few dates with ADA Tarzan, can they recast him with Nolan North and pair them up? NN and TI would be hysterical together.

"Go into the light, Mary." BWAH!!
Mysticks Muse
I'm thinking the "simmering" thing is a way to gauge audience reaction to Maggie "turning" gay out of the blue. This weeks spoilers say something about Maggie thikning she has romantic feelings for Bianca but doing nothing until after trial. My guess is may TPTB want to let the audience write in to express it's feelings on this development. Judging from most message boards lately, the audience ain't gonna buy it.
onlyinPV
JR was always a little shit. He was spoiled bratty kid who drank, sold drugs, had no respect for anyone and invoked the Chandler name to bail him out of trouble (which was frequently). He basically had the same attitude of I hate my father and renounce him and disrepect him but I'll use his name and money and influence to help me out that he has now. Tad and Dixie did much hand-wringing over him but Adam kept bailing him out of trouble instead of letting him take his lumps. To be fair, the writers were trying to show the consequences of letting a teenager run wild.

I could buy JR now if they had him show some anguish or unhappiness or uncertainty about his situation. He would be a much more sympathetic character than he is just showing this never-ending hostility.
Kelsey
KerleyQ -- I love your idea of recasting ADA Tarzan with Nolan North; that would be so much fun to watch. I also loved the Adam, Palmer, David and Tad interchange; we need more of them and less of Boobe and JR!

Is it just me or does anyone else think that Jacob Young is one of the worst actors on this show? I just roll my eyes and FF whenever he is on.

Naked Kendall was very hot!
gspiggott
Jacob Young is generally one of the worst actors on any show he appears in, it's just a knack and he's got it in spades. AMC has cast Neve Campbell's brother Christian for an unnamed role, it might be pervy's attempt to get the ho-yay competition with Kinks fired up.
2deadcows
Am I the only one who found the Lena dancing scenes adorable? Yes, it was embarassing, but in a "I'll make an absolute ass of myself if it will just make you smile" sort of way that just made me a little mushy. Haven't any of you ever done something embarassing in front of someone you love just to make them laugh?


After all of my pre-emptive grousing yesterday over BoogieFever!Lena, KerleyQ, I have to admit to busting a gut laughing once I finally steeled myself to watch. Lena doing the Hustle all by her lonesome? That shit was funny. And not as embarrassingly cringetastic as I feared. But the follow-up Hustle and Macarena scenes dialed up the old wince-o-meter.

Thinks I liked:

* Lena's "wait for it..."

* Maggie’s “I know what it means. Why is it coming out of your mouth?” Bwah! and Word. Lena should never use slang, even in jest.

* The dead silence following Maggie’s “Okay, I’m hep.” Hee!

* Mary snarking how the girls were fighting over the man ‘scraps’ in PV.

* Anytime Tad rags on Palmer and Adam about taking their vaudevillian act on the road. And the thing with Palmer’s dyed eyebrows. Hee.

Speaking of ‘snark,’ aside from this website and a few other related sites, I’ve never really seen or heard the term used elsewhere (on TV or in RL). But I think I heard it twice on AMC yesterday and maybe on a few other occasions too. Am I just pitifully behind the times or is the glory that is TWoP spreading throughout this land?

Anyone else catch Winifred eyeing up Officer Sean? I'm starting to like Winnie lately, now that they're letting her be a person and not just the maid.

I saw that, I saw that! That Officer Sean is such a charmer. Best cake I ever had, indeed. Maybe the actress who plays Winifred is the new Alison Janney. ;)
CKD
In my defense...hee...I'm not a commitment-phobe, on the contrary. Right now I'm enjoying that whole "I'm coming by later" thing 'cause I never got to do it with this girlfriend since she lived in CA and I'm in D.C. - but enough about me.

So Lena will be dreaming of ZombieAss, too? Huh. That makes the murderer central canvas a bit more interesting, though I'm almost positive she didn't do it. Still, nice to know she's included in the nightmares. Wonder if Maggie will be there, too? It is a nightmare after all.

ETA: the quadrangle thing came out of the SOW chat and it's not speculation at the SS. Well, yeah, they've speculated that bit to death but, apparently, there will be a fourth person in the LAMB saga. LAMB? I need to stop the acronym crap.
Black Knight
Am I the only one who found the Lena dancing scenes adorable?

No, you're not, all snarking aside (hey, we're a TWoP board, it's what we do...). It was actually very reminiscent of when Aidan was mugging around to get Kendall to smile, not to mention AMC giving the director an excuse to shoot Olga moving around in tight clothing. Which reminds me, in between hysterical laughs, Bianca was definitely checking Lena out.

CKD, to clarify, I was talking specifically about the "from Lena's past" part of the whole quadrangle part. The triangle turning into a quadrangle has been officially confirmed, as well as the fact that it'll be someone from Ryan's family--but the "Lena's past" part, as far as I'm aware, is entirely speculation.

I'm thinking the "simmering" thing is a way to gauge audience reaction to Maggie "turning" gay out of the blue.

Well, we already know that that it is going to be a triangle, and then a quadrangle. AMC is three-four weeks ahead in taping, so the trial and murder mystery should be all wrapped up at this point and the show concentrating on other SLs now. I think Maggie decides to do nothing yet because she actually is able to utilize the few brain cells she has to realize that Bianca will not welcome this development, especially at this time, and that Bianca's very much in love with Lena.

I don't think in AMC's view that Maggie turning bisexual (she likes guys enough that she can't be 100% gay) is out of the blue at this point--we've had months of Maggie/Bianca, and any soap watcher knows where something like that could potentially head, so they've had plenty of time to hear from the audience, not that McTrash is one for writing story based on what the audience wants to see, anyway.

I actually don't object to a triangle as long as it's not a true triangle, where we'll be asked to believe that Bianca might become seriously torn over Maggie vs. Lena. It's doing wonders for Lena's character--nice to see the manipulation and subtle bitchiness back--and it is amusing to watch Maggie's patheticness. Bonus: When Bianca does find out what's going on with Maggie, it should put an end to the Bianca/Maggie living arrangements.
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