Greenlee delivered her little "I don't swing that way!" bit with such unneeded ferociousness that I just saw it as more HoYay, not a denial of HoYay. Hee.

ETA: Mystic0, no explosion this week, and Ryan still lives. We do get JP holding a gun on him and AMC going to commercial, which allowed me to fantasize him shooting Ryan for a few glorious minutes...

I don't get SoapNet--what's the new Eden promo like? (Obviously easy on the eyes and oink-able, natch)...

I didn't post about the New Year's ep because I figured my comments were pretty out of date by this point. But since you asked, I mostly enjoyed it. I found some of the musical couples bits up at the lodge amusing--especially when Aidan completely forgot Mia's existence when Kendall barged into his room. I didn't think Bianca's spoilered "jealousy" really came to anything much--I didn't see romantic/sexual jealousy, more just a concern about their friendship. However, I do think AMC's trying to downplay Bianca's obvious love for Lena a bit to try to give the triangle some legitimacy, because I noticed Lena got all the romantic lines. And I was pleased by the Lianca kiss, not as disappointed as most others here seem to have been. That's mostly because I think it's encouraging that the second kiss occurred without ABC giving it tons of fanfare or even hints beforehand, a sign that maybe the show's ready to move past all the "momentous" crap and try to present it as more normal and everyday stuff The lack of a buildup moment didn't make it as hot as it would've been otherwise, I agree--their almost-kiss a couple of weeks ago was much hotter--but I wasn't surprised that Bianca, at a public party, felt the comfort level needed to just kiss Lena, and given the dress she chose to wear, she certainly was angling towards that moment all along.

mysticO said:

"Did we get our daily 'splosion? Did Ryan die? (crosses fingers)"

So, I am guessing the big ball didn't fall on his Macy's Day Parade Baloon-Like head? Ah, too bad. But, I am with you mysticO: I am also crossing all of my toes: wish I had more.

Also, in regard to the Kenlee scenes today: loved, loved, loved them. Great scene, more Kenlee, please. Just one question: Are they the new Lianca? Just kidding folks. I love Lianca: don't want anyone's vodoo doll stings or karma like flings coming my way. I really do love Lianca (although I don't write letters to soaps, I did lend my name to the petition to "Keep Olga S. on AMC": hope you do the same) and hope those of you who anticipate more in 2004 are right on target!

And, finally but not leastly (I know that is not a word but it fit somehow): I love Anna and Adam. I hope they hook up so to speak. Two evilicious schemers. YUM. Great chemistry, IMHO.

I also agree with those of you who have no taste for the Tad and White Trash Mama coupling. No chemistry, no push/pull (wink/wink) symbiosis, no nothin': He just laid his body on top of her as if she was a surf board. Geez, I think he would have more chemistry with Portia.

Well that is it for me. Good night sweet princes and princesses. Till next time.

Eden's Promo. (Oink away...I know I did).

...because sharing is caring.

I *will* find that link, dammit. Ok, I probably won't because I'm so damn easily distracted. I was just over at Eden's board trying to find the pesky link and saw that Eden had posted. She did this replay of the New Years kiss with emoticons. (snicker) She mocked Maggie! That's so wrong. Damn, funny though...



Pish. Jump in late and often, why not? I had a real love/hate with the ep. I kinda like the Lodge setup but it lacks punch for me because the couples are all sorta iffy. I actually did love the Lianca kiss (Bianca's dress was a lot more attractive if you only see it from the back while she's wrapped around someone. *rowr*) but would've loved some dialogue. I would like to see Lianca more defined before the Maggie situation gets all wacky but hey.

Now if we can get some more Kinks and Erica's head 'sploding when she finds out about their lovechild, I'll be happy. Erica's misery is my joy.
By the way, welcome newyork1. Always good to rack up (hee!) new peeps. Oh, and welcome to rsmith2k2, you made my point better than I ever could. Thanks for helping out a Braxton Hicks graduate. ;)

allergic2love, thank you! I would have bungled it for sure.

Yowza! She was very...hm, bouncy in that promo there.

I'm sooooo ashamed that that's the first thing I noticed. I'm even more ashamed that I rewound it and watched it two more times because of it. The hills are aliiiive!

Thanks, allergic2love. Mystic0, underneath my predictable oinking at the promo, I must admit I'm starting to share your fear that one day we're going to hear that Eden's died of a chest cold. That tanktop is so low-cut we can see her tan line! Not that there's anything wrong with that, ahem, but it is winter in NYC...

I just went and found Eden's post after you mentioned it, and died of laughing at her emoticons-impression of the NYE's ep. Poor Mags, indeed.

I think we're getting what passes for AMC's definition of defined--Bianca's asked Lena to wait for her, now she's kissed Lena, they're as close to getting back together as two people can be without actually doing so. As I commented back when we were talking about this a while ago, McTrash's idea of Lianca basically getting reacquainted was a good one, but of course, the execution is shit--a couple of romantic musings from Lena doesn't really qualify. But if the show defines Lianca too much right now, well, it's such a short step to them being officially back together, which I suppose makes it too hard to really present Maggie as a serious obstacle. Her only chance is while Lianca is still somewhat broken up--Bianca pays little enough attention to Maggie when Lena is around as it is, so if Lena were her official girlfriend again, and thus around all the time, Maggie'd be way out on the fringes and not really able to cause any trouble.

I think a lot of this is McTrash having a really poor sense of how to pace her storylines, and so she's continually having to put one SL on backburner in order to play out another. For instance, she wanted to start off her stint with a bang by having the Voldemort ep. Fine. But then she also had to have Erica and Jack's wedding, and since obviously the wedding would've been postponed indefinitely, and Michael then murdered, if the rape had been disclosed beforehand, the secret had to drag out for weeks as a result. (Notice Erica learned about the rape right afterwards. And now Jack/Erica are on the backburner until the current murder mystery can be resolved.) Now Bianca's really way too busy to have time for a triangle as well, so we get all these 10 or 30 second snippets that don't really push the action along but remind us the idea's there underneath, until McTrash can wrap up some of Bianca's other stuff. It doesn't surprise me that AMC's course of action is to work on Maggie and Lena's feelings, since they have no other SL, and basically leave Bianca out of it, in a sort of limbo, since she's so busy with everything else, because once Bianca gets clued in to Maggie's feelings, she'll do something about it one way or another. For instance, Maggie realizes, according to spoilers for the week of Jan. 12th, that she's in love with Bianca (color me surprised, I didn't think AMC would go that far with Maggie), but Bianca sounds way busy with everything else that's going on that week--Kendall's trial starts, Erica's found out about the pregnancy, she confesses her secret to Jack, and she, along with Erica and Kendall, have an ominous feeling of some sort. Yeah, there's really time for Binks to deal with Maggie that week too. I think not. So, no way Bianca finds out that week that Maggie's in love with her. So as frustrating as it is, I think maybe once the murder mystery and pregnancy SLs finally reach a wrapping-up point, we'll get some actual meaty scenes here. In the meantime, I'm looking forward to Erica's reaction. It's not clear from the spoilers how she finds out, as the spoilers say that Bianca decides to tell her next week, but then that she reconsiders after Erica says negative stuff about the baby (presumably Kendall's fake one). But still Erica knows by the week after.

I like Tad better with Simone as well. I find Liza pretty boring, maybe because TPTB always make her look so matronly. I like Krystal but I'm not sure if I want her with Tad. I have a strange feeling that she'd have better chemistry with David. They haven't been in any scenes together yet but I think they'd be interesting. I've also been thinking that Brooke and Adam have been interesting lately. I don't know where that pairing would lead though, but it would give Brooke something to do though.

Also I think I hate Ryan.

Think? He is the most annoying, obnoxious character on the show. I can no longer watch any scenes featuring him. No joke. I want him dead.

I can watch Ryan with Kendall (because I can't bring myself to FF her scenes ever) and the shallowness in me has to at least do a drive-by of his scenes if he's shirtless but otherwise? He's doing his hummingbird impression for me.

Well, you did come this close to declaring Alexa Havens so unwatchable that you wouldn't even watch Kendall in scenes with her, kariyaki...

But seriously, is there anyone here who actually likes Ryan, or has the hatred become universal? I can't stand Ryan either, and I never have liked him, but if we must suffer through him, it'd be nice to know that someone out there is enjoying his scenes (and not just the abs, either). Then it isn't quite as maddening for me.

Yeah, I know, but thankfully they've taken Boobe out of Bianca's orbit so it seems the danger has passed.

I haven't seen anyone HERE who likes Ryan but I see it plenty on other boards. Kinda scary.

Well I don't mind his scenes with Kendall but that has more to do with the way they have been Kaiden than the fact that Ryan is so great; however, they then go and kill any goodwill they build-up with me with his tolerable scenes with Kendall by having him go flirt and kiss Greenlee. Ryan annoys me in scenes with Greenlee because I think they work better as friends and because I love Kendall and don't want to see her screwed over. Also, so far this doesn't seem like its going to play out as triangle where people might actually root for different people to get together but rather as a triangle where the writers have no idea what they are doing so they decide to "keep it ambigious" in there my minds, but instead end up making me not like everyone involved.

I know we ff Babe and Jaimie ... but did I see a budding woody? Did I?
I think I saw that. ( Bleaching eyes)
Krystal speaking to Tadster: "You take care of your's and I'll take care of mine."
Let's just start calling her Krystal Cooter now! (Bleaching ears. Hope that works.)

Now that I see the promo you speak of... I see that is the dress from a months ago photo shoot. There is a pic of Eden in that dress ( How I wish I had picked Ben Dover as a local name for her board!) and Elizabeth in a red one that is sheer ... very attractive and sheer so you can see her black undrerpants.

The promo I SAW just this second on SOAPNET: Maggie and Bianca. BF! Bianca and Maggie BFF!!! That's gotta kill the Squeaky Fromme's that they are running that again! BEST FRIENDS! I swear I saw it and it wasn't a hallucinatory experience.

Now you've gone and jinxed things.

I really miss my Kinks, by the way. I was before, but it's become serious withdrawal now. Sigh. I do enjoy Kenlee, but honestly, I think Kinks is better. Part is the fact they're supposed to be sisters, while Kendall and Greenlee aren't related by blood and therefore could hook up if they wished, so the hysterically-funny illicit element isn't there. But part of it is also just that I think Alicia and Eden are cuter together. They glow more. There. I said it. (ducking)

Oh well, time to go watch the tape where googly-eyed Kendall tells Bianca she won't leave until they brainstorm a solution. Hee. And then follow it up with a rewatch of the Lianca NYE kiss (Mystic0, just wanted to mention and forgot before, while I did think the Lianca kiss would have been hotter with a buildup moment, I did love it as it was too. I actually really liked the middle distance shooting of it that some complained about, because it made it very clear that the whole embrace was a full-body contact situation--they're all pressed up against each other. Yum. Usually with these network TV gay kisses the actors keep their bodies apart. I must admit the wardrobe department's new policy of picking footwear for Lianca that will lessen the height difference was probably a good idea, since Olga is inexperienced in kissing someone smaller. <snicker> You'd think she could just watch the guys on AMC kissing all the shrimpy women and figure it out. Tip #1--wrap those hands around the waist...)

Unfair, BK. Bianca's insistent highhug straight hug action is to blame. Eden honeybunch ... I NEVER have had my arms around a woman I am kissing or hugging in a shoulder grasp unless I was horizontal and needing leverage, mmmkay?

BIANCA... being shorter .. is the one that needed to lower her hands to the waist and pull her in by the relevant parts.

Kinda like the hetwise Babe did to Jaime-onna-top today. Anyone else notice that? I think it caused the woody! It's also why het girls like Eden ( read classy) don't do it instinctually. Shoulderhugging is a woody avoidance maneuver that het girls make habitual very early. Gay women DO NOT embrace that way, even with men. I swear.

Word to the McTavish inability to pace or manage more than 2 stories at a time. I so hate Ryan. Yes, Boobe has used up her goodwill with me, too. Her NYE hairdo was unforgiveable. Tad and Krystal (I really don't give a damn how her name is spelled) are not working. Kenlee could be fun, but Megan will insist on a triangle and it's terrifying to think who she might put in that spot. Here's hoping that some characters' NY resolutions involve returning to work and being seen in an office environment, particularly the women. Oh, I know it won't happen.
Megan is entranced with all the dumb characters, in other words, those of her own creation - Ryan, Babe, Krystal. Since I haven't seen the latest ratings, I'll just improvise and say of Boobe and Mom, Skankety-Skank.

After a long stretch of AMC-free days, I tuned in over the holidays and watched while peeping through my fingers (same way I watched Texas Chainsaw Massacre.) Wow! Redneck Slut-O-Rama! Gayness every which way you look! Mary causing Adam to mainline Viagra! Aside from the parts I didn't care to understand (Jamie and JR and all that Scooby Doo orgy room changing crap at the ski lodge), there were several minutes of unadulterated fun.

Momma is still watching regularly and has a theory about the dueling pregnancies of Babe and Binks, paraphrased here : 'They'll both get the daddy test and the results will be switched so that it looks like Babe is having the Cambias scion and Bianca is baking a new Chandler. Babe will be thrilled since this means she's gonna get filthy rich and have no papa strings to restrain her from whoring around. JR will be happy because he'll have a baby mama who will never require him to touch her icky girly parts.'

Is Babe even pregnant? If Babe is not pregnant, I can see her stealing Binks' baby and trying to pass it off as her own. (Only spec, not spoiler)

No need to spoiler tag spec, Sally! Tell Momma4th I missed her ... and BWAH! I really did. Girl parts. Hee! I see JY HoYay is apparent to everyone.

Latest ratings are flat 3.0 last I heard. Good compared to GH and OLTL - They lost .2

Huh, that makes sense. So what you're saying is, TPTB are going to touch on the triangle just enough to let us know it's still simmering. And what of it that is touched upon will be mainly through Lena and Mags (because Binks is hella busy) hissing and spitting at one another as they jockey for position and battle their insecurities, right? And all the while Bianca is oblivious to the fact that her BFF and her kinda/sorta GF (No, not Kendall. The other one.) want each other dead. That's kinda fun. True to life, too. I've actively loathed my friends' SOs or BFFs but played nice in front of said friend. So I guess I can save myself the brainfuel and not worry about Binky suddenly going Maggie crazy (Eden's emoticon puppet show still makes me laugh for some reason. Poor Mags.) anytime soon. Cool. Any clue what TPTB's master plan for Maggie is? I just can't see them making her gay or bi, so why revisit this particular SL well?



I would have picked Kenlee for my fave (mostly to lessen the pervy tint my rep is gaining) but now that Greens is riding my last nerve, Kenlee is now in second place. Right on about the naughtiness of Kinks making it all the more gleefully illicit. Plus, Kenlee never had quite as many inappropriately lusty moments. Brainstorming is the new 'nap'. Kinks4eva! What time is the next sled to hell? ;)

Hey Sally4th, welcome back! My love to the always-hilarious Momma4th. You've both been missed around here.


Well, this should make for a fun weekend discussion. Hee. What I usually see (not to mention do) is: the taller person puts his/her arms around the waist and pulls the other up and in (thereby not having to bend as much). The shorter person generally puts his/her arms around the neck and shoulders and pulls as well--take a look at every other NYE kiss on that ep and you can see that's what the other couples all did. The taller person putting arms and hands around the shorter person's neck/shoulders doesn't work very well for fitting the bodies together--it's an awkward fulcrum point for pulling a shorter person in and the taller person has to bend more, making it more difficult to get maximum full-body contact. Certainly it can and is done, but it's not as common. What does everyone else think?

And--Eden did put her hand on Olga's waist during the first kiss. That said, Olga's admitted she'd never kissed anyone smaller than her before and that it was an issue for her. Very funny moment, Eden completely cracked up when she said that. But I could see during the first kiss that Olga really hadn't ever done that before. Hee. I guess we just have to fanwank it as Lena conveniently always having been with people of an equal or taller height in the past.

ETA:
Yup, Mystic0, that's exactly what I was trying to say. And like you, I find the secret catfighting amusing and fun to watch, especially as when Bianca is around, Lena knows how to be a bitch without looking like one, while Maggie has no clue and so comes off as a big ol' grouch in front of Binks. Ha.


Well, like I said, once Bianca's freed up a bit story-wise, I suspect she'll then find out about Maggie's feelings for her, and I really don't see her doing anything other than giving Maggie the "I love you but only as a friend" speech (and I just love the idea of Bianca finally getting to give that speech to someone else for a change). She's focused on Lena, she's pregnant, the last thing she wants is to be embroiled in some sort of sticky love triangle. Then it's kind of up to Maggie to decide where she's going from there, and that'll probably drive the plot, of her being an active obstacle to Lianca. So, not a true triangle, but Maggie trying to play spoiler. The Jan. 12th spoilers do say Mags realizes her love for Binks, so I guess they are going with bisexual after all, which surprises me. Then there's the talk of the quadrangle--if it does turn out to be Braden, I'm guessing that this is Maggie's attempt to take Bianca's attention away from Lena. She probably figures that if she goes out with a rapist, Bianca will check up on her every five minutes.

Hey, they seemed to have the height paradigm all sorted out while dancing. I didn't see any straight girl shyness there. *rowr*

"Bianca and Kendall are forging a bond that will never be broken. You will see that bond grow and yet oddly enough, it has pit them against their mother, in the sense they are not telling their mother the truth. That will have shattering consequences. When Erica learns the truth, it will impact all their love stories."


McT is a Kinks lover! Hmm, maybe Pervy Writer is her alter ego...

Yeah, that's because wardrobe has started choosing Lianca's footwear with an eye to cutting down on the height differential. That takes me back to my original point, which is that it's probably a very good idea that they're doing that--it paid off well with the dancing and kiss.

If Mags hooks up with Braden just to manipulate Binks......that's just fucking evil! Well, evil Maggie might be more interesting. Then Eden can use the devil emoticon for Mags. Seriously, if Mags does date that rapist pig, she needs to die. Didn't Braden rape Binky's aunt, her middle name-sake? Or am I getting all the rapes confused?

When will I ever learn not to question Momma4th?

New spoilers from Beth at SON with bits added yesterday (GO! Worth a read!):
http://www.soapoperanetwork.com/boards/ind...?showtopic=1772

Includes this Frons spewed sickness inducing tidbit:
-Frons...regarding Kendall/Bianca/Cambias mystery: "We'll find out the truth in February, at which time we also see if the truth behind all the babies comes out. There's an amazing, shocking twist that will happen with these babies--you've got two pregnancies and two women due at about the same time. There will be a big to-do about that."

That is whack. Amazing. Shocking. Twist. Meh. Wonder what it is? ( yawn)

I am nearly done with spec on why short het women do things the way they do. But I agree the dancing action was bodycloseness and ON FIRE!

Why do we have to choose between Kenlee and Kinks? Can't we ship both? Considering McTriangle's proclivities for nonmonagamy, I'd say it's reasonable.

Oh, there's no need to choose between Kenlee and Kinks--it's just that it's been a little while since we've had any Kinks and so I'm in withdrawal. I think every week oughta have a good dose of both non-couples. Hee. But I'm pleased to see this spoiler for next week:
-Bianca tells Kendall she will stay in town to stand by her during her trial. Yay! Kinks coming up! And I do love the bit about Kinks forging a bond that will never be broken. Now McTrash had better stick to that, dammit.

In regards to what Frons said--this is all kariyaki's fault. She jinxed everything! Hee. My guess is that Babe's baby is stillborn and she steals Bianca's, and Erica knows about it (and maybe even actively helps) and lets Kinks be heartbroken over the death of their lovechild. Blech! Now I'm going back to the mansion because I really don't feel like thinking about this.

Mystic0, I wasn't watching at the time, but I'm pretty sure Kit was Jack's sister and therefore Bianca's aunt, though I don't know if Kit and Bianca ever had a relationship. I think all that occurred before Eden's Bianca arrived. That said, I agree it's evil, and also a poorly-thought-out scheme on Maggie's part, but it's about the only thing I can think of. Bianca'd be absolutely appalled, but I also can't see her just throwing up her hands and walking away. Meanwhile I don't see Lena having any patience for this and I could see that opening up a can of worms in regards to Lena's past connection to Michael as a result. Bianca's been completely nice and fair about that up to now, but if Lena tells her to just let Maggie sink, I can see that changing fast. On top of everything else Bianca feels she owes Maggie, which would also be a sore point for Lena. The last couple of episodes of Bianca/Maggie have had a bit of a theme hit that Bianca knows that she needs to be a friend back to Maggie after everything Maggie's done for her, and she's making more of an effort now than she has in the last few months. So we'll see. This is all spec, but the only surviving relative of Ryan's that we know of is Braden and I kind of doubt they're going to bring on a lost-lost sibling or cousin that Ryan never knew about.

Wow, all the Bianca/Lena/Mags stuff has the potential of being crazy complicated. Yowza. I'm not touching the baby maybe switch yet. Thank Bob, for the mansion. But the Kinks! Can it be that Erica reacts so badly that it ends up Kinks (and lovechild) vs Erica? Ahhhhh, what a beautiful belated holiday present that would be. I don't see Kendall calmly standing by if Erica really reams Binky out. Nor do I see Binks letting Erica get away with damning Kendallette. I think Binky has some mama bear in her and would kick Erica's ass to the curb over her kid. Delicious.

I wonder if this is what has LaLucci all riled up? Erica tearing into her pregnant, traumatized, teenage daughter isn't a big way to endear your character with the audience. Who cares? Bring it on!

If you're theory is correct, that still doesn't mean there will be Boobe/Kendall scenes. Still sounds like they'd be kept separate for now. And the eventual scenes it would mean'll probably be Kendall reaming/beating the crap out of Boobe and I wouldn't miss that for the world.

But awww, those are going to be hard scenes to watch. Kinks grieving over their lovechild? Better load up on Kleenex. Heh, Alicia and Eden are stocking up on next season's Emmy reels early this year.

If I'm right about Erica being involved in a baby switch, I can definitely see that driving Lucci bonkers, even more so than just her ripping into Bianca for deciding to have the baby. It would take Bianca eons to forgive Erica, and Kendall never would. It'd break up Jack and Erica again (I'm guessing they'll have reunited by the time the truth comes out.) David would turn his back on her too. But that aside, I agree with you, we're in for some very ugly scenes when Erica learns the truth. It's not just about the baby itself, it's also about the parallels with Kendall, and that's going to send all three women over the edge emotionally. Kendall cannot hear a word Erica says about the baby without directly applying it to herself as well, and Bianca knows that. Erica cannot listen to any argument for having the baby because she sees Bianca's choice as a referendum on her own decision where Kendall was concerned, instead of it simply being, well, Bianca's choice. So the filter will be completely gone from her mouth--she'll rant and rant. And at this point, anyone who criticizes either Kendall or the baby to Bianca's face is making a big fat mistake. Bianca's never had any problem telling Erica off and I doubt that's going to change now. And I agree that Kendall will not stand for Erica criticizing Bianca, either, not on this. She worships her girlf--er, sister. Erica's a tough fighter, but she's going to get her head handed to her by her daughters. Bring it on.

Unless, of course, Erica decides to pretend she's fine with everything. At which point, I'm going to be very creeped out, and very scared. But I can't see her being that coolly calculating. She can do it in business, but she has never been able to do it in her personal life.

Man, these are going to be some vicious, ugly scenes. For once, I can't wait to see them because I'm such a big whore for Kane women drama. It's going to be compelling. And I'll be looking forward to seeing Boobe get her ass handed to her on a platter by the Kane sisters as well.

Actually, kariyaki, I'm starting to play around with the idea that if a baby switch happens, it's done by the grandmothers--Erica and Krystal--and Babe and Bianca know nothing. But that's fine, a Krystal-whooping by the sisters Kane will work for me too.

The thing I really fear--other than the months we'll have to wait for the truth to come out and for Kendall and Bianca to start smashing heads--is that we might then be in for an ugly custody battle. There's really no standing legally, as JR and Babe have no biological claim whatsoever, but this is a soap.

Word, kariyaki, I can't wait to see these scenes. Painful but delicious. If Erica does actively do something like that... Ooh, the fallout. I can so see Erica doing it, too. Yummy, can't friggin' wait!

Since long black paragraphs make baby Jesus cry, I'll jump to some non-spoiler/spec stuff. One thing the writers are doing right is how they're handling the Kinks bonding without changing Kendall's core character. I was a bit nervous that they'd take Kendall from being all about mommy to all about Kinks and eradicate Kendall's mommy need history totally. But in recent scenes, they've still showed that Kendall hasn't moved past the Erica need that has driven her for so long. We got the "Mommy" Kendall in jail scene. Plus, Kendall has gotten her sulky face on, a time or two, when talking to Ryan about Erica's 'Most favored daughter' stance in regards to Binks. I like that Kendall's new Binky besottedness hasn't totally done away with Kendall's many years jealousy of Erica favoring Binks. We even got a shot of Kendall's self serving (or self protecting) nature when she admitted to Binks that she doesn't want to go to jail, so they have to keep lying even if Binks wants to give it up.

I never want Kendall to be perfect. Her self destructive and selfish nature, living in tandem with a good heart, is what makes her such a compelling and complicated character to me. That's another facet that makes Kinks interesting, the history of distrust and resentment has actually been nodded to instead of just ignored in favor of insta-bonding. I'm a Kane family dynamics groupie. It's endlessly fascinating to me.

Perfect people are boring, that's for sure. And the flawed ones can be so much more likable and sympathetic, anyway.

And I agree that the Kinks bonding hasn't changed Kendall completely. Yes, she's matured a little. Yes, I believe at this point that she will never again stab Bianca in the back in order to accomplish something with Erica. Yes, I believe that for the first time ever, Kendall's number one priority is not Erica. But she still very much loves and wants her mother, there's no doubt about that. It was Erica that Kendall wished for when she was in the jail cell. She still shows the flickers of resentment that she's the black sheep daughter. I'd say the difference is that she's learned to stop taking her resentment out on Bianca for it. Kendall needs love and acceptance very badly, and she does respond to those who give her those two things, and Bianca's done that in a couple of especially important ways to Kendall. Kendall's no longer completely self-destructive, just 95% so, and I think it's a good idea that she's now got one stable tie to Pine Valley that gives her a reason to stay even at the points when she'll have trashed everything else in her life. That tends to be the problem with the bad sheep characters--at some point the audience can't understand why they continue to stick around if they're continually on the outs with everyone. Then they make plans to leave town, then there's a manufactured reason to stop and stay, and it repeats and repeats and just turns into annoying, rather than interesting, masochism. But now Kendall has family to stay for--solid family, not one who does a 180 degree turn every two minutes. It connects her to Pine Valley in a way I think she needs.

It was self-serving, though not in a bad way, for Kendall to admit to Bianca that she doesn't want to go to jail--after all, the entire reason Kendall is in this mess is because she's protecting Erica and Bianca. She "married" Michael to cover up the fact that he was actually dead (really quite a brilliant idea on her part, and one that would've worked if it hadn't been for Ryan. See, Ryan ruins everything). And Bianca's made it very clear she doesn't want to see Kendall go to jail, either. She threw a fit at the police station and left the hospital with a concussion for just that reason, and Kendall knows that. (And Kendall doesn't know this, but Bianca was all set to sacrifice Erica and David in order to get Kendall off the hook, too.) I took it partly as Kendall letting Bianca know she was over her temporary lapse of "maybe I should just give up and throw myself on the DA's mercy," which Bianca had been trying to talk her out of.

Ah, just look at all this nice grey space. The black spoiler bars do get hard on the eyes...

Yup, I'm glad that TPTB avoided the temptation of making Kendall the perfect martyr, ultimately self sacrificing and all that. She's stepping up in ways that show just how large her capacity for caring is (and the lengths she'll go to) but their not throwing out the complications that made her a great character to begin with. Props for that.

It'll be awesome to see how Kinks changes the Kane dynamic. What will Erica do in regards to Bling (if/when she finds out) and how well will it sit with her that her daughters finally have a relationship that's solid. For once, Erica doesn't have all the power (she's not the center of Kendall's universe and Bianca would drop her ass in a second if Erica crosses one of Bianca's major lines in the sand) and can easily find herself on the outside of Kane united. She'll get no help from Jack if she tries any of her Erica schemes. Plus, you have Greens waiting in the wings to cause Erica trouble. Mmm........ Erica just might have a very bad year.

The thought of which breaks my heart. <snicker>

Yep, me too. Muhahahahahaha!

Yeah, when Erica behaves like spoiled little shit? I have little to no sympathy for her either. Watching Kendall and Bianca rip her to shreds is going to make my year.

So, popcorn or roasted marshmallows? Erica's had this coming for a long time from her daughters. I so can't wait. Is it wrong to be this gleeful? Whatever, I am.

I'm kind of surprised that La Lucci was pimping the return of McTavish because after Voldermort, there's not so much Erica screentime. I can't imagine that a person so sensitive to age issues (and one so willing to wear backless shirts) is exactly happy about becoming a grandma onscreen. This is all my mindless speculation, but it seems the majority of the screentime is all about the JR/Boobe/Jamie scandal, Kinks, and Ryan fluffing. Now I need an aspirin.
Maybe Erica should have camped out in the steam room with Ryan after all. Wait, the Kane girls should have her over an open spit.

This may have been asked before but whatever happened to Jackson's adopted (autistic?) daughter, Lily? Is she in school or something? I ask because shouldn't she be recast by now? They seem to be buiding up Jackson's family - he now has a son (who's taken the Montgomery name it seems) and Greens is his suddenly bio daughter. His niece Bianca who also has the last name of Montgomery just as I assume her child will have (can't seem him/her being called a Cambius ever) is now a front-burner character. So what happened to the daughter Jack had to begin with? Are they reluctant to use her because they don't know what to do with a mentally handicapped character? That didn't stop them with Stuart who started off as seemingly retarded (which is why Adam hid him all those years) and is now seemingly normal. And with Jamie and JR being SORASed to college age (aka same age as Maggie and Binks) that means Reggie is the only teen on the show...and all shows seem to need a certain number of youngsters for their teen SL (especially during the summer). Or are they saving Lily for when they SORAS Colby Chandler and Petey Courtland - which can't be long now.

Lily was seen about twice last year in some scenes, once in her special school environment and another when she had pneumonia. The latter was the catalyst for Erica giving Jack comfort sex because he was so worried about her. There's a rumor out that they're looking to recast Lily and bring her on-canvas but since the characters rarely mention her (as they are wont to do when an absent character's arrival is imminent), I have no idea if and when that will happen. If so, bravo on the choice to recast as the actress they had playing her last year was pretty bloody awful.

Look at you being kind. Truthfully, that girl blew harder than Gabriel's trumpet. Still better than Borie, though.

You know, I kind of miss Borie, now that you bring her up. There are a lot of people I hated that I miss, just because I loved making fun of them so.

Well, there was that fun Joni/Borie HoYay, too.

The alleged upcoming Kane Family Drama scenes have the potential for greatness. Erica's beloved Bianca turning on her? Awesome. And Eden Reigel and Alicia Minshew are definitely up for it. But Susan Lucci just doesn't have the acting ability to pull it off. Granted, she's best in scenes involving Bianca. (Didn't she win the Emmy for her scenes with Anorexic Bianca?) But...she's no Robin Strasser or Erika Slezak. (OLTL is the only other soap I watch.) So, while I anticipate the upcoming fallout, I wish for a better actress.
Am I supposed to care about Babe and her mom? Because, I don't. Scenes with all new people and/or recasts don't do it for me. I just can't care about NuJamie, NunuJR and Babe. Although I am enjoying Paul in PV much more than in Llanview.

She was slated to have a story line some months ago, which I'm thankful that they seem to have trashed. IIRC, Lily was supposed to be drawn out of her autism by her friendship (romance???) with Reggie. Since that so doesn't work in real life and since I imagine they would have drawn huge fire from the various support groups for people with autistic loved ones, perhaps it got dropped?

Walt said on OUTQ several weeks back that they planned to bring Lily back as a mildly autistic or whatever person, and that he knew they'd draw some fire for that, and he hoped viewers would give them a break this one time and chalk it up to fictional license.

Perhaps it is delayed, put on hold, or dropped. Because I expected to see Lily by Thanksgiving.

Her story was supposed to heavily involve Reggie and I would've liked to see that. It would've been more interesting than this Boobe Llanview crossover stunt. Wonder if Mr.Jordan is bummed? I think they should just pair him with Maggie and be done with it.

Reggie is going to be paired with Livie's daughter, which I think is a great idea. That is, if McTrash spends any time on it at all. Well, summer is coming up, teens are always featured then and there aren't any other teens on AMC currently, so that does leave it open for Reggie. I hope they stick with him instead of making us endure an influx of new teens. If there must be more teens, perhaps they could bring back Joni. *cough*

I checked the updated spoilers for the week of 1/12 and it's time to get creeped out. They say Erica struggles to be supportive of Bianca and the pregnancy. And that a reluctant but desperate Kendall asks Erica for help about something. So clearly there's been no Kane nuclear explosion...yet. I'd say the possibility of Erica being involved in a baby switch just went up, actually. There's no way AMC's had her in the dark for all this time and then isn't going to have it pay off somehow. And the general spoilers do say the fallout from Erica finding out is going to be huge and impact all the love stories.

A possible baby switch is desperate hackneyed writing at its worst. Oh, yeh, we're talking MCT here. Who else would go to this tired and long past appropriate plot line.

Please, just give Bianca a break! She's become Pine Valley's whipping post and frankly, it's starting to make Michael Logan look like a prophet. Yes, MCT likes to make the gays pay...or at least Bianca, St. Bianca, suffer for all our sins.