Black Knight
Apr 3, 2004 @ 11:54 pm
Yeah, I like the Danielle/Greenlee interaction, particularly as she's someone that Greenlee isn't trying to make amends with. And so we get to see Greenlee's edge come out. But I also thought that it's a bad idea for Greenlee to be stashing a runaway minor, especially given she's Derek Frye's daughter. God knows why I'm spoilering that since I don't think there's anyone who doesn't already know, but just in case. And Danielle is a way for Greenlee to get in good with Reggie. Those two are making fun siblings. The foursome of Greens/Reggie/Kendall/Binks really are the best siblings ever, which is why Uncle Foo Foo and Erica must get married as soon as possible! Heh.
oysterverse
Apr 4, 2004 @ 12:13 am
And right up there with the Greenlee/Bobby interactions, I am love, love, loving the Greenlee/Reggie bonding. Danielle grates a bit, but if she's necessary to keep bringing those two together, I'll take her. And it really is fun to see her get to Greenlee. She very nearly got Bitchy Greens to make a comeback when she made the crack about her being 30, but Greenlee smartly calmed herself down and returned her attention to Reggie before blowing up at her. It'll be fun to see how long it takes for her to really send Greenlee over the edge -- I'm sure it won't be too long, especially if she keeps making trouble for Reggie.
Wordy McWord. I like Reggie well enough, but not as much as I like Greenlee, and I get irrationally annoyed everytime he badmouths her. The snarky sibling stuff is fine; the bitter feuding, not so much. But I've been loving them this week. It's nice to see Greenlee displaying an ounce of maturity, too, and in a blessedly Ryan-free context.
Is there any way we could get the Greenlee/Reggie stuff without Danielle? Her callous disregard for Reggie's probationary status is making me hate her. I was so pleased at Greenlee's gracious offer to allow Danielle to stay in her apartment until I realized that meant she'd be in all these scenes I couldn't FF. Phoo.
Scene I'd love to see: Greenlee getting advice on how to be a good sister from Kendall. That'd rock my TV right off the dresser. But since that would involve those two not being at each other's throats, I suppose I shouldn't hope to see it this decade. Maybe Bianca?
krizmic
Apr 4, 2004 @ 1:15 am
Hola all!
Glad you enjoyed the caps, CKD There have been some great Kinks lately...moments of total trust and emotional (if not physical) nakedness...(did I really just type that?? Gosh, I'm on a sled to ... I can't believe I thought it, much less wrote it!)
Good cappies from BK too!
mirashima
Apr 4, 2004 @ 1:26 am
The foursome of Greens/Reggie/Kendall/Binks really are the best siblings ever, which is why Uncle Foo Foo and Erica must get married as soon as possible! Heh.
Indeed, 'cause aww! Though I've been meaning to ask -- what the hell did I miss? Uncle Foo Foo?
Scene I'd love to see: Greenlee getting advice on how to be a good sister from Kendall. That'd rock my TV right off the dresser.
That
would be adorable (and were my TV on the dresser, I'm sure it would follow suit), though you're right, probably not happening any time soon. I could maybe see Bianca, though. Especially if
they end up bonding a bit when Bianca gets Greenlee to take her back to the crash site. And I haven't seen Friday yet, so I don't know exactly what went down with Greenlee at the hospital, but if she gets to go through with her plan to give Bianca the necklace from Leo, that should also be a very good step in the right direction. Those two do love to play the Leo card on each other, don't they?Speaking of that spoiler
about them going back to the crash site, I fear that may be another very bad move on Greenlee's part. I know she's trying to make nice with Bianca, but Kendall is going to go ballistic when she finds out, especially if it ends up adversely affecting Bianca (and, really, how could it not?). I give her points for effort, but she's really not going about this whole redemption thing quite the right way. Both of her current schemes seem to have a very good chance of blowing up in her face.
Black Knight
Apr 4, 2004 @ 1:41 am
Though I've been meaning to ask -- what the hell did I miss? Uncle Foo Foo?
That was me. I stole it from the L&O SVU thread, where Captain Cragen is continually referred to as Captain Foo Foo on account of his being utterly useless riding herd on his detectives. And Jack, while I love him, is pretty much useless when it comes to handling situations, especially those involving his family. And so I've taken to calling him that.
mirashima,
I'm thinking that we may be getting Greenlee arguing with Kendall over what's best for Bianca, if I'm right in my speculation about why Bianca's in the hospital so long. Greenlee taking Bianca to the crash site seems to imply that Bianca can talk her into shit that she can't talk Kendall into, probably because Greenlee is so desperate to get in good with Bianca. If AMC keeps that up and maybe has Greenlee being the only one willing to believe Bianca about Miranda being alive, while Uncle Foo Foo is convincing Kendall her girlfister is delusional and needs to be kept in the hospital until she comes to her senses...thereby redeeming Greenlee. Which I have no problem with, except it'd be coming at Kendall's expense. I want to see the three of them--Kinkslee--working on figuring out what happened, not Kendall looking like an idiot while Greenlee helps Bianca.
DeeeDee
Apr 4, 2004 @ 2:34 am
I actually think that Reggie wants to like Greenlee strangely enough. He's shown that he desperately wants to keep his little ragtag family together against all odds. But ever since Greens has been deadset against Kendall and to a lesser degree (albeit unknowingly) Bianca, Reggie's been opposed to her. I think with Greenlee's "evil witch hands" melting slightly that Reggie will give up some ground as well. I also think that Greens is realizing that she's on the outside looking in right about now wrt most of her relationships and that's not the greatest place to be especially when everyone is leaning on everyone else about Mimo.
I predict strangely enough that Greenlee just might fall on Erica's side strangely enough when all is said & done though. Which in essence would put her at odds with Kinks and possibly Reggie again depending on how things work out between he & Danielle.
Greens is also putting herself in an extremely bad position by allowing Danielle to stay for three reasons. Uncle Foo Foo (Hee!) will be hella upset when he finds out that Reggie almost got in trouble and risked his probation and he wasn't told and Greenlee knew about it, secondly that Reggie is continually getting in trouble because of Danielle and Greenlee was not only aware of it but argueably encouraged it by allowing Danielle to stay, and three if only for the simple fact that Danielle is Derek's daughter.
Whenever Erica pops up again I can definitely see the two of them bonding over their outsider/insider standing inside the Montgomery/Kane brood. Greenlee-Erica might even weirdly enough draw Bobby into their little group as well seeing as Madame Anita seems to be bonding with Aidan. Ryan seems destined (however stupidly by McHack IMO) to reunite with Kendall as well. And since Aidan, Ryan are already close to Bianca & Kendall I can see the two of them (and possibly Anita by association) possibly becoming an even closer part of the Montgomery/Kane inner circle.
What's sad is that poor Mia & Simone will end up getting left out in the cold since Tad seems to be gravitating towards Krystle and all the other available bachelors have pretty much departed town (Boyd, Juan Pablo, Tarzan, etc). Maggie, Jamie, Liza, and David all seem at loose ends these days as well to varying degrees.
Black Knight
Apr 4, 2004 @ 3:05 am
I think with Greenlee's "evil witch hands" melting slightly that Reggie will give up some ground as well.
If Greenlee builds up some currency with Reggie, and then gets Bianca to soften towards her some (which that necklace and speech ought to do), I think that'll go a long way with Reggie.
I predict strangely enough that Greenlee just might fall on Erica's side strangely enough when all is said & done though. Which in essence would put her at odds with Kinks and possibly Reggie again depending on how things work out between he & Danielle.
I was thinking, actually, that
if Uncle Foo Foo has Bianca stuck in the hospital until she lets go of her "delusions", and Greenlee's the only one willing to believe her, Greenlee might then get hold of Erica in Vegas (the budding Bobby/Greenlee friendship could lead to Greens finding out where Erica is), so that Erica can come back and use her rights as Bianca's mother to spring Binks, thereby helping to redeem herself. Erica might or might not believe Bianca about Mimo being alive--even though she knows all about baby-stealing/switching--but she's on such poor terms with Bianca right now that I doubt she'd care. Anything to get back in good with Bianca. She'd probably spring her daughter even if Bianca was hallucinating pink elephants everywhere while espousing the One World Government conspiracy theory.
jenmarie
Apr 4, 2004 @ 5:01 am
I actually think that Reggie wants to like Greenlee strangely enough.
Oh, I totally believe he doesn't hate her nearly as much as he
wants to hate her. I think he feels like he has to hate her for what she did to Kendall. Afterall that's his job as protector of the family. However, he wants and needs a big sister badly. That was coming through in his scenes with her after the music store incident. I love him calling her Green Pea, even though it's supposed to be an insult, it sounds awfully cute.
Uncle Foo Foo. Hee.
Just FYI,
Thunderclap is gone and won't be back.
CKD
Apr 4, 2004 @ 10:22 am
(As for Alicia and Eden, we need to figure out how to get hold of that Halloween pic of the two of them. D'ya think Alicia would post it on her website if asked? Hee.)
I'm happy to report one of my peeps at the AGR has put in a request; she says: "A request has been sent into Lucious to get a copy of the picture. And hopefully with Uncle Daddy's help, I can reiterate the request and get it!"
And...Uncle Foo Foo. Bwah! I love it.
Black Knight
Apr 4, 2004 @ 12:20 pm
Oh, I totally believe he doesn't hate her nearly as much as he wants to hate her.
I think part of Reggie's early dislike for Greenlee--aside from the way she announced that she was Jack's daughter, by busting up Jerica's wedding--was in how Greenlee dismissed him initially as Jack's son and her brother. Reggie's adoption was not finalized until later, so there was some insecurity there about his own place in the family, and when Greenlee did hear about the adoption being official, she was snotty and unwelcoming. Greenlee didn't begin to acknowledge Reggie as her brother until it suited her, when she saw that Reggie was close with archenemy Kendall and that she herself was ending up odd one out in the family, and tried to enlist him for her side by playing the siblings card.
I do find the jockeying for position among the Kane-Montgomery siblings--Reggie, Kendall and Greenlee, that is, since they all know Bianca's position is secure as the one who's been a part of Uncle Foo Foo's life for many more years than any of them--amusing. What's interesting is that all three of them are traditional outsiders, and they all finally have a chance to be on the inside, and if one of them perceives another as trying to boost his/her own stock at the other person's expense, there's backbiting and feuding. Reggie feels secure now that his adoption is final, so he doesn't have to play that game anymore. But Greenlee and Kendall have been quite stuck on the idea that for every group of people, there must be an outsider, and they've been determined to make each other the outsider since August. Greenlee's epiphany has caused her to drop that and start working at actually building relationships with her family instead of trying to simply slide in by default by throwing someone else--Kendall, usually--into disfavor. While Greens is still emotionally stunted, she's grown and has certainly gained some emotional intelligence. Most notably, she's been careful to respect Kendall's bond with Bianca, something that is absolutely essential if she's ever to accomplish the feat of mending fences with Kendall while also building a relationship with Bianca. But Kendall is still hella suspicious, though I don't think she herself really is trying to secure her place by making Greenlee an outsider anymore either; I think now she just simply
sees Greenlee as the outsider, an untrustworthy one, and is treating her as such.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed on that Halloween pic...
ETA:
Just FYI, Thunderclap is gone and won't be back.
Heh. I just strolled over to that thread to enjoy reading the verdict of "troll" and "banned". Thanks,
jenmarie.
oysterverse
Apr 4, 2004 @ 2:10 pm
If AMC keeps that up and maybe has Greenlee being the only one willing to believe Bianca about Miranda being alive, while Uncle Foo Foo is convincing Kendall her girlfister is delusional and needs to be kept in the hospital until she comes to her senses...thereby redeeming Greenlee. Which I have no problem with, except it'd be coming at Kendall's expense. I want to see the three of them--Kinkslee--working on figuring out what happened, not Kendall looking like an idiot while Greenlee helps Bianca.
I can see it playing out something like "Greenlee goes along with Bianca out of guilt or a desire to get in good with her cuz; Kendall, goaded by her anger at Greenlee, lashes out at Greenlee for "messing" with Bianca, and ends up on the wrong side of the argument; Bianca brings her around with the doe eyes and/or the realization that Greenlee is genuinely trying to do good." It's not entirely implausible.
I think Kendall wants to believe Mimo's alive (unless I missed something in all the Kryan scenes I've been skipping), but it's just too hard to keep any kind of hope under these circumstances--it's very painful to keep hoping, and the sooner you convince yourself there's no chance, the easier. Kendall is way more invested in this child than Greenlee--for Greenlee, Miranda's death is a source of pain for people she cares about, and probably also an abstract tragedy--a baby died!--but not an intensely personal loss for herself and her best beloved. It doesn't seem implausible to me that she could be quicker than Kendall to believe Bianca--she's got less at stake.ETA--Green Pea's kinda cute as a nickname, and it's certainly better than Meanlee.
jenmarie
Apr 4, 2004 @ 2:19 pm
You're welcome, BK and thanks for the info on the Greenlee/Reggie backstory. I knew there was other stuff between them besides what went down during Kendall's trial, but I didn't see any of it. I'm looking forward to seeing that relationship develop. It should be really interesting.
You're so right about the dynamics between Reggie, Greenlee, and Kendall. Those Kane/Montgomery children are a fascinating group.
Black Knight
Apr 4, 2004 @ 8:03 pm
Not so fast, PToS...
When glancing through the soap mags at Walgreens this week, I noticed that in two different ones there were wide-shot photos of the infamous moment when Greenlee ripped off Kendall's dress in court, that shows more people than we saw onscreen. Our favorite snarky judge is sadly rather out of focus, but Livia's eyes are popping out of her head and Exeter's jaw has hit the floor. Very amusing.
There was also a roundup, I think in the SID, in which some actresses were asked who dresses the best offscreen. Alicia and Amelia were the ones who answered for AMC, and they both picked Liz. The hell? The only way I can fanwank that is that Naggie's onscreen wardrobe is just so horrendous that Liz's offscreen wardrobe looks way better in comparison. (And, P.S. to Alicia and Amelia--the correct answer to that question is always Susan, Susan Lucci. La Lucci isn't a raving bitch diva, but still, don't push it.)
Speaking of La Lucci, there was also a photo spread of her doing an infomercial or something for her products line, and Alicia, Rebecca, Eden, and Eva all wisely lent their support and endorsement, as did Walt (bwah!). Some nice group pics.
SkiffyPup
Apr 4, 2004 @ 8:33 pm
There was also a roundup, I think in the SID, in which some actresses were asked who dresses the best offscreen. Alicia and Amelia were the ones who answered for AMC, and they both picked Liz. The hell? The only way I can fanwank that is that Naggie's onscreen wardrobe is just so horrendous that Liz's offscreen wardrobe looks way better in comparison.
They are all blind, tasteless, or Comic Machiavellis! Nice fanwank too, BK. Except Liz specifically said on OUTQ that she loves Maggie's clothes and dresses just like her. Shops at the thriftstore, etc.
random person
Apr 4, 2004 @ 9:35 pm
Incase anyone here hasn't seen yet, Alicia's official site has been udpated with personal photos of Alicia's. The childhood photos? CRACKED my sh*t UP! Check out the 'FRO at age 4! Red too. "Annie" hair! hee! And the 3rd shot? Possibly the ugliest dress ever. *giggle* But dang she was adorable.
http://www.aliciaminshew.com/Alicias%20Pictures.html
random person
Apr 4, 2004 @ 9:37 pm
There was also a roundup, I think in the SID, in which some actresses were asked who dresses the best offscreen. Alicia and Amelia were the ones who answered for AMC, and they both picked Liz. The hell? The only way I can fanwank that is that Naggie's onscreen wardrobe is just so horrendous that Liz's offscreen wardrobe looks way better in comparison.
They are all blind, tasteless, or Comic Machiavellis! Nice fanwank too, BK. Except Liz specifically said on OUTQ that she loves Maggie's clothes and dresses just like her. Shops at the thriftstore, etc.
Rebecca also once said that she'd love to play 'Maggie' because she has the best clothes.
Black Knight
Apr 4, 2004 @ 11:13 pm
They are all insane at AMC. Hee. randomperson, it's funny that you mention Alicia's site, because I was over there just an hour ago checking through the photos and trying to confirm the impression I have that she dresses okay IRL--i.e., no half-sweaters like Nags wore for Thanksgiving. And while some of Alicia's outfits aren't to my personal taste, I didn't see any particular horrors. And I love the majorly-off-shoulder black dress in particular.
It cracks me up that Alicia and her sisters all have the exact same curly hair--clearly a hella-dominant Minshew gene. I couldn't resist re-reading the Alicia/Rebecca HoYayish interview while I was there, either. Comedy gold.
krizmic
Apr 4, 2004 @ 11:21 pm
Alicia's site is great, isn't it??
I'm going to paste something here that I emailed someone about what makes Kinks so interesting or compelling...take it for what it's worth to you!
I know what you mean about Kendall/Bianca trust. What makes it even more powerful is that, though Bianca has known trust all her life, has trusted people forever,
Kendall JUST learned to trust with Bianca...because Bianca decided that she could love a child of rape, so, Kendall knew Bianca could love her too...and suddenly, there was trust. Ferocious, fierce, intense trust. It is what we all want in life--so I think we
see it there and are drawn to it, ya know?
oysterverse
Apr 4, 2004 @ 11:48 pm
Except Liz specifically said on OUTQ that she loves Maggie's clothes and dresses just like her.
She admitted to that in public? Brave woman.
Rebecca also once said that she'd love to play 'Maggie' because she has the best clothes.
...
She must have been joking. No one would
want to play Maggie.
Unless she secretly envied Liz Hendrickson all Maggie's bonding (mmmFixodent) scenes with Bianca! Maybe she misses all the CuzYay since she's stuck with these noxious Ryan storylines! 'Kay, the world is right again.
ETA--Unsticky PostIt, you are my hero of the week. That's a thing of beauty.
Unsticky PostIt
Apr 4, 2004 @ 11:49 pm
Coming out of extreme lurkerdom to post this-
http://www.exuberantself.org/megan/kinks3.jpgyeah...I think I should be sleeping now. Those pictures on Alicia's site are totally cute. Cracks me up about all the sisters with the same hair too, BK.
(credit to www.churchsigngenerator.com)
krizmic
Apr 4, 2004 @ 11:53 pm
Wow, UnstickyPostIt *please* stay! Join the sled--it's getting full, but we always have more room (we may have to make it a train soon, folks!). That is hysterical UsPI!!!
katesus7
Apr 5, 2004 @ 12:09 am
OK, I'm a bit late to the party, but I'm have much to comment on.
I loved Kendall with the letter.
Heck, why didn't she just preface her whole snark with a "this is for TwoP", because could it have been any more obvious that she was speaking for all of us? I laughed every single time she made a comment. The whole "Erica Kane - as if there's another Erica" comment just had me rolling on the floor. It made Jack reading that drama queen letter worth it. Otherwise, I would've been rolling my eyes the entire time. God love Kendall! But, of course 'Poor Jack' would be worried about Erica. Because that is 90% of his plotline. He's not allowed anything else.
As for other issues. First - Reggie vs. Greenlee? It seems completely realistic to me that he has that much animosity towards Greenlee after the whole MC murder. He was THERE, and helped Kendall cover up Bianca’s role in the killing. I’m absolutely certain, at that exact moment, he was going to support Kendall no matter what, and be pissed at Greenlee whenever she tried to rock that boat even a little bit. He didn’t care that she was his new sister; his relationship with Bianca meant more to him at that point, and Kendall had proven herself to him much more than Greenlee ever could. No contest. It’s nice that Greenlee is doing everything possible to win back his trust, but I hope the writers take this dynamic slowly, and don’t make Reggie do a complete turnaround based on one incident. Because, please.
My other comments revolve around the SOD I got today, so I’m going to spoiler tag them, because I got this issue way before I usually do.
Juan Pablo leaves, and AMC actors are upset? Hah! Please. Anyone who didn’t realize he was gone about 2 months ago is just an idiot. He had no love interest, no connection, and no one liked him. Why on earth would he stay? Also
Apparently, next week David warns Greenlee about Kendall?? Oh, Hell, no, don’t you be messing with my Kenvid. That’s just wrong. If there’s any warning David needs to be giving Greenlee, it's to warn her not to harm a hair on Kendall’s head, because that is his future love. Yes, I mean it. And, Bianca starts to lose her mind? Thanks, McTrash, we’ve been wondering how long you were going to take to make Bianca’s situation even worse than it is. It’s nice that it doesn’t take you long to disappoint. You ass. And, the fact that I still feel the need to post after every show I watch just shows how much I am Eden, Alicia and all of my other favorite AMC actor's bitch. Because it certainly isn't because of this "story".
2deadcows
Apr 5, 2004 @ 12:25 am
BWAH!!!!!!!!! I’ve heard stories, but what does a lightening bolt really feel like,
Unsticky PostIt?
And this?
Be then again that is because I can write with is more that some of you can say. --
gobbledygookpersonIs that the sound of one hand clapping? ...-- regis
has been cracking me up since I first read your post,
regis. We’re talking desk-slapping, gasping for breath, out-loud, chortlin’.
I refuse to believe that Alicia, Amelia, and Rebecca have such bad taste (Bob F. Guinney notwithstanding). Nope, not possible. ‘Tis only self preservation, surely. EH dresses like Maggie who is costumed by the Punisher. So, essentially, to criticize EH’s/ Maggie’s fashion sense is to incur the wrath of Punisher. Can’t blame the girls for wanting to avoid that sh!t list. Especially poor Alicia who just recently got the Curse of the Floral Sundress lifted. Yep, that's the reason. I'm sure of it. La la la.
Black Knight
Apr 5, 2004 @ 12:38 am
She admitted to that in public? Brave woman.
Wasn't there some gathering where actors were snarking on Naggie's half-sweater from Thanksgiving and Olga was the only one who said she liked it? But I certainly don't get the general love. Maybe the Punisher is really blackmailing the cast? "Say you like Naggie's wardrobe or I will dress you in equally horrible outfits!" ETA: Ha,
2deadcows also has the same theory. So that is what I will choose to believe.
Unsticky PostIt, you
rawk. That is the funniest shit ever. Please stay and post more instead of going back to hide your brilliance in extreme lurkerdom.
It’s nice that Greenlee is doing everything possible to win back his trust, but I hope the writers take this dynamic slowly, and don’t make Reggie do a complete turnaround based on one incident. Because, please.
Word. So far, I think AMC's doing very well with this dynamic, and hopefully they keep it up. It was made clear in the dialogue that Reggie only called Greenlee because he did not want to bother the hella-busy Uncle Foo Foo. And clearly Kendall wasn't remotely an option because Reggie would've wanted her right where she was, that is, with Bianca. (Speaking of Kendall with Bianca, did it crack up anyone else that Kendall knows the exact moment Bianca wakes up in the morning? Gee, I wonder how she came by that knowledge...)
katesus7,
did the SOD spoilers go into enough detail that it's clear that Bianca actually is losing it, or is there a chance that it's a poorly-worded spoiler (not that that's ever been known to happen before)? The spoiler I saw was "Bianca loses touch with reality" or something like that--I was hoping it might be clumsy wording for "everyone else thinks Bianca is losing it" because she decides that Miranda is still alive and starts searching for her. Kind of like the spoiler for last week that said "Kendall and others try to keep Bianca grounded in reality", which wasn't exactly the case onscreen. They were trying to keep her grounded in their idea of reality, when in point of fact Bianca was right when she identified Miranda's crying, and in her feeling that Miranda was close by. She seemed sane enough throughout.
I do hear that Tomy Dunster is a hella nice guy and that Rebecca was pushing for Greens/JP, but the character just didn't catch on. Bye bye, Tomy. With Christian Campbell around, and apparently Jonathan Lavery arriving (sigh...well, hopefully he'll at least be played by a decent actor), there's no need for JP.
I don't mind David warning Greenlee about Kendall. Greenlee is his late brother's wife and just because he's building a friendship, and maybe more, with Kendall doesn't necessarily mean that he should stand by and do nothing at all if he knows Kendall is gunning for Greenlee. I don't think it represents irreparable harm to potential Kenvid. And he knows that Greenlee wants to make amends with Kendall, not fight her.
KerleyQ
Apr 5, 2004 @ 2:25 am
Something that bugged me while watching last week--wouldn't the PV police kind of know Derek's daughter? Especially if she has run away, wouldn't her picture have come across a desk or two down at the station?? Wouldn't a policeman's teenage daughter going missing be fairly big news in PV? I know it would be around here. I was totally able to overlook Reggie and Greenlee not knowing Derek's daughter was missing since they've been a bit distracted by more pressing matters lately. Then we were served up that horrible locked in the music store all night bit. So, now I'm expected to believe that no one--from the record store guy to the freaking police--recognized Danielle? Or even asked for some ID from the kids?? Now, we didn't see the details of her conversation with Shawn, but, I'm going to assume he didn't know who she was, otherwise, he'd have hauled her butt into the station to hand her over to Derek, right? Derek's the chief of police now, right? Wouldn't it be a bad career move to have the chief's runaway daughter standing right in front of you and let her walk away? Am I missing something here, or are we just supposed to believe that Derek had a bigger hard on for punishing his friends for Michael's murder than he does for finding his own teen daughter who's been off on her own for at least a few days now? Anyone??
caitmcg
Apr 5, 2004 @ 8:19 am
KerleyQ, my understanding of the story was that Deredk and Mimi got divorced at some point, and Mimi and Danielle are living elsewhere than PV (which would explain no one recognizing the teenaged Danielle - though presumably Jack would, on account of being friends with Derek, but if Danielle recognizes Jack in the photos at Greenlee's, she's keeping mum). Danielle ran away, and has complained about her mother, but not mentioned her father, so I assume she came to PV because Derek's here (and Livia?), but she's taking her time about getting to him. But you're right, presumably Mimi would've contacted Derek about her running away, etc., etc. I have only one explanation for the holes: it's a soap. And, okay, the PV police force is the lamest one in the universe.
dirksunboy
Apr 5, 2004 @ 8:57 am
Something that bugged me while watching last week--wouldn't the PV police kind of know Derek's daughter? Especially if she has run away, wouldn't her picture have come across a desk or two down at the station??
Not only has that bugged me, but the character of Bobby has bugged me since his return. He freakin' grew up in Pine Valley, other than a few years away, being SORAS'D. Why didn't Erica realize who he is? Why did he say "Well I don't know who this Kendall is..." I am not sure but I
think Bobby and Kendall were on at the same time before, but even if not, I'm SURE Bobby would have heard about Kendall's shenannigans back in the day. And is he
ever going to have any scenes with Palmer and Opal? Wouldn't his grandfather like to know he's in town?
Yeah...you're all correct: it's a soap.
So Thorsten Kaye's coming on board. Meh.
Mystic0
Apr 5, 2004 @ 10:25 am
mmmFixodent
Bwah! Don't know why that cracked me up so completely but it did. Hee.
Unsticky PostIt, that?
Rocked! Loved. It.
Speaking of Kendall with Bianca, did it crack up anyone else that Kendall knows the exact moment Bianca wakes up in the morning? Gee, I wonder how she came by that knowledge
Ha! Right on.
I'm still obsessing with Bianca's living arrangements. Kendall is still in her condo, where I guess she'll stay because Lord Ryan will be staying in PV now that he's a billionaire again (gag). Unless Lord Ryan gets a manor more befitting of his lordship and gives Kendall his old crib. I'm hoping that Maggie has moved in with Jamie. Obviously she isn't at the hospital 24/7 so she could have finished moving, right? I just don't want to see Bianca back in the tropical studio (other than Kinks way too many snort-worthy scenes happened there. I blame those weird pillows.). Mainly because I'm still hoping for a little Kinks cohabitation and because I'd like a lot less LenaMaggie scenes (Hey, you don't have one without the other anymore.). Perfect!Lena and Inept!Mags just bore the hell outta me. It's a deadly duo, y'all. Yes, we'd still get a few of their scenes if Bianca lived elsewhere but then Mags would *not* be living there too and would have to go home eventually. I'm sure Lena would still call couch privileges but since she's stuck in traffic a lot maybe she wouldn't be there when Mags is. Yay!
Stinkerbella
Apr 5, 2004 @ 11:24 am
I'm telling y'all, Olga is being punished. As if being on this show wasn't punishment enough, they have to stick her with Liz in every damn fucking scene. Naggie is the eqivalent of a gas leak...she brings on the snore...fast! I love any scene with Lena (she brings on the tingly feelings) but the scenes she is in are all.about.Naggie and helping Naggie deal with whats going on. Poor Olga, she's now been reduced to fluffing the Nagster.
jenmarie
Apr 5, 2004 @ 12:28 pm
I can not believe that Frankenbrow had the gall to equate breaking up Kendall to losing a child.
And of course Bianca didn't actually get to see the baby, God hates her.
Darn
Apr 5, 2004 @ 12:38 pm
Right, Liza is stupid and pathetic. I forgot.
CKD
Apr 5, 2004 @ 12:40 pm
You know what's better and more progressive than Kendall and Greenlee fighting over Ryan (as opposed to Kendall, Greenlee, Simone and Mia fighting over Guan Pablow)? Liza on her knees fighting to get Tad.
Unsticky PostIt, the Dark Father weeps: he's so proud of you. Sniff.
Kinks Is Love.
SkiffyPup
Apr 5, 2004 @ 1:15 pm
LOL.
I suppose I should skip today?
Unsticky! Great to see you here. Are you of legal age yet? Because ... that photo is excellent, and The Dark Father and I could not be more proud of your rapid adult descent into Kinks fandom.
My little bird has flown the nest! See you in hell, dear.
Unsticky PostIt
Apr 5, 2004 @ 1:40 pm
Hehe, thanks guys...that's what avoiding studying for a math test will do for you. I've been 'shipping Kinks right along with all of you, but I've never had anything interesting to post...until that sign. heh.
Skiffy! Not of age yet...5 more months. You're all corrupting minors! The Dark Father thanks you.
I haven't seen today's episode yet...about to go do that now.
*joins the sled*
Sappy
Apr 5, 2004 @ 1:59 pm
Tuesday's feed from Dabri 99 at SON
Tuesday's Episode part 1
Greenlee begs for Bobby's help. Then Bobby talks about what Erica talked to him about. Bobby says it's her life and if she makes it her business it's not your business.
Kendall talks about miracles with Ryan.
Lena talks to Bianca. Bianca wants to know what happened and tells Lena she needs to find out the information as to what all happened.
Babe talking again about Paul to JR and Krystal comes in. Keeps saying it's a secret.
Bianca tells Lena about Paul, and tells Lena she can't wait to find out the information. Lena promises they will find out everything they can. Lena kisses Bianca and leaves to let her get some rest and promises her she'll find out information one way or another then.
Reggie comes to Bianca's room. bianca tells Reggie not to cry because she's afraid she'll lose it.
Ryan says we got miracles and Kendall says no. Miranda was her miracle and she's gone. Kendall says she doesn't have any fight left. She just wants to watch Miranda and Bess grow up together.
Krystal takes JR out cause she wants Babe to sleep. Krystal says she doesn't know what's what. Paul says he's going to make sure Paul never comes around again. Krystal tells him not to bring any negativity in that room about anybody. Krystal goes back into the room and says it was a close call cause she was about to say something about the annullment.
Tad trying to figure out why Liza was hiding in his house. Then she kisses him. Makes up a story as to why she was there. Tells her to leave and don't do it again.
Maggie and Jamie's at BJ's and she's talking about Bianca. Jamie just tells her to eat. Jamie then says I wished someone loved me as much as you loved your old roommate. Then Maggie starts to cough and says too much hot sauce. She tells him his whole family loves him. Jamie says you guys are way more than pals anyone can see that. Then she coughs again. Then says they are like any great duo in history. Says they are willing to die for her. People who know real loveHe he envies that. Jamie goes on how bad he feels about the babe thing.
Anita begs him to tell them about Erica. Greenlee mentions Philly. Tells him the reasons Erica wanted to leave and then what she was doing in the chapel. Then says maybe you should let her go since they seem to be the reason she left. Then Greenlee said to think I almost started to like you.
Ryan and Kendall talk about forgiveness and appreciate things more becuase of what happened. Ryan says life can really suck, but maybe the miracle in all this we keep fighting against the odds. A tragedy brings people together instead of rip them apart. Jackson comes in to talk to Ryan about Erica leaving. Kendall claims the note is bait. Asked about the last time he saw her. Asks what the plan is and says he'll hook up with Tad to find out things. Kendall thanks Ryan for everything.
Greenlee goes off on Bobby and dishes out his dirt in front of Anita. Anita thinks Greenlee has his number. Anita gets mad about finding out that he went with Erica to Philly. Asks him what does he see when he looks at her and maybe he never did.
Jamie goes on about his infatuation with Babe. Maggie tells him it just got out of hand. He feels sorry and is glad he didn't take away the baby from it's father.
Sappy
Apr 5, 2004 @ 2:00 pm
Part 2
Kelly and Paul with the baby. Kelly wants to know more about his biological parents in case he gets sick. Paul tells Kelly to stop worrying. Paul tells her I'm not making any promises.
Kendall says she was so sure it was Bianca's baby when she saw Bess to Erica. Greenlee thought she might need her. Kendall goes off on her. Jackson tells her to forgive her.
Tad and Ryan finding out info about Erica. Tad on the computer and Ryan on the phones. The drink soem beer.
JR then tells Babe he loves her and he never stopped and he was hurt and angry he wanted to hurt her back. Tells her not to give up on him because he wants to make things right.
Lena then finds Paul and wants him to answer Bianca's questions in person. Paul doesn't want to rehash her hell. Tells Him he'll be the sorriest SOB in two cities if he doesn't.
Reggie makes some jokes to Bianca. Bianca says family sticks together. He tells her he never met anyone like her before. Bianca answers the phone and says he isn't in and takes a number down for Uncle Jack and gives it to Reggie to give to Uncle Jack.
Kendall keeps going on about Greenlee. Reggie comes in and gives the number to Jackson. Greenlee is going to go too. Reggie tells Kendall to lay off. Kendall can't believe that everyone is forgiving her.
Jamie is like totally in to being Uncle Jamie. Maggie says you can get chicks with the baby. Maggie says we are friends who hook up, but not together. No expectation no hookups. Jamie thinks Maggie is the coolest chick in the world.
Tad and Ryan still looking. Ryan says she was spotted at the airport and asks about private planes. Tad couldn't find any credit card activity.
Anita tells Bobby he is wrong. Bobby says he loves her. Anita says she doesn't know she can forget about what happened. Bobby is willing to leave her in risk she'll miss him and take him back. He leaves to go to Vegas and hopes she uses the number and he kisses her.
Kendall says it's a ploy. Then continue to fight. Reggie tries to be middle man. Jackson comes and tells them to stop it. Jackson tells Kendall to let it go to help Bianca and Erica. He tells them he loves all of them. Jackson has to go do something about Lily. Has a word with Kendall and tells her he's worried about her. Tells her she has to take a risk. Then leaves.
Ryan then talks about his love life to Tad. Then Tad answers the phone and finds out some info. They go to see a man.
Babe has broken her fever. Krystal and JR are happy. Babe eyes open.
Bianca is having flashes of her baby and her. She then gets up and leaves the room.
Previews.
Greenlee wants to call a truce.
Tad and Ryan question Palmer.
Bianca gets upset at the crash site.
krizmic
Apr 5, 2004 @ 2:09 pm
Yay, UnstickyPostIt!! Welcome to the sled. Glad you will be sticking around.
Today doesn't sound that intriguing...tomorrow...well it sounds like Alicia will be given some stuff she can have fun with...
I hate this SL. I really do...it's just paralyzing all the characters I love.
random person
Apr 5, 2004 @ 2:34 pm
Sets being worked on tomorrow Tuesday the 6th include (but are not limited to): Bianca's hospital room (okay, this is getting a little ridiculous), S.O.S., and the music store.
DrCher
Apr 5, 2004 @ 2:39 pm
Sappy and random person, thank you for the tidbits you share daily.
Mystic0
Apr 5, 2004 @ 2:50 pm
Anita really sounds like she won't be able to forgive Bobby so, can we have Breenlee please? Mmmm.....a pretty eyes and dimple war. Yummy! I'd be okay with a Anita/Bobby/Greens triangle, I could just mute them and watch all that pretty. Bobby needs to lay off on using so much Dapper Dan, though. Try the dry look Bobby, you might just like it.
I loved the Greens/Jack scene. Awwww. She's calling him Dad now. I liked how she obviously bit down on the snark rising in her throat when she read Erica's letter. Hee, she got stuck on the Erica Kane part, too.
Ryan needs to die but the one benefit to Ryan/Kinks scenes is watching Kendall try to bust them up. Does she ever look comfortable whenever Ryan's within fifty feet of Binks? Hee! I love you Kendall, you pretty thing.
Man, poor Kendall. She's never been faced with Bianca when Bianca sets her mind on something and Kendall is opposed to it. Somewhere Erica is laughing. Erica knows that there really is no derailing Binks when she gets set on something. Please come around and support your GF, Kendall! She's not crazy, I promise. Oh, and Kendall? I know your relationship with Binky is relatively (heh) new, but anytime Bianca sends you away, she's up to something. It's a rule.
I can't really comment on Bianca because it's all so damn sad. Her instincts are dead on and no one will believe her. Plus, dammit, Mimo just gets cuter by the day, she should be with her damn mother! Hee, how pointless was that last sentence? I like stating the obvious sometimes.
Aw, in the previews Lena called Mimo "our baby". Daddy!Lena was kinda hot.
Edited because he and she are two different words.
oysterverse
Apr 5, 2004 @ 3:07 pm
[QUOTE]Kendall keeps going on about Greenlee. Reggie comes in and gives the number to Jackson. Greenlee is going to go too. Reggie tells Kendall to lay off. Kendall can't believe that everyone is forgiving her.[/QUOTE]
Well, this sounds more entertaining than watching Greenlee and Kendall talk trash behind each other's backs.
They're such a snarky pair that it's fun to watch them fight face to face--but they have to be in the same room! Having them take jabs at each other through other people, by which I mean Ryan, is just tiresome.
Fark! Forgot the spoiler tags.
CKD
Apr 5, 2004 @ 3:31 pm
I can't really comment on Bianca because it's all so damn sad. Her instincts are dead on and no one will believe her. Plus, dammit, Mimo just gets cuter by the day, he should be with his damn mother!
She. MiMo is a she. Unless, by MiMo, you mean Peanut. As in Babe's baby. Speaking of which, what would his name have been? Anyway - weird screams aside, it
is horribly sad and I can't wait for this whole thing to be over: I don't know how many more moments of "There, there, Bianca: calm down. And MiMo's dead" I can take.
And Lena said "our baby" in the previews? I miss all the good stuff: all the crap gets in the way.
Hee, how pointless was that last sentence? I like stating the obvious sometimes.
Hee. It's only obvious to us, though. The people who should know? Their heads are buried in the sand.
Black Knight
Apr 5, 2004 @ 3:42 pm
I like how Greenlee's still emotionally stunted, but knows it and is trying to accommodate for that--i.e. telling Uncle Foo Foo she didn't understand about his love for Erica, but that since that's what he wants, that's what she wants for him. Her holding in her snark on the letter--but not being able to restrain herself from emphasizing the "Erica Kane" signature--was funny. And she had a great expression on her face when Bobby tossed the possibility at her that the reason Kendall doesn't trust Frankenbrow is because she doesn't feel deserving of his love. It's about time Greenlee understood that, because I was getting tired of the Kendall-bashing.
It is a sad, sad day when MoronMia is talking more sense than Liza. But I laughed at the way Tad caught Liza out at the end. Hee. I sighed at Uncle Foo Foo convincing Tad to look for Erica though. Not so much because I disagree per se--I do respect his loyalty to Erica and he is right to be concerned about her safety (as little as I may care about whether she's all right or not)--but it means Tad will be busy looking for La Kane instead of, oh, investigating the crash.
Anita seems very far away from being able to move on past Bobby's betrayal, so I agree with
Mystic0, bring on Bobby/Greenlee. They definitely have chemistry and Rebecca's really sparking around Christian. But Christian, please, please shave already. Jack doesn't recognize Bobby either? Sigh.
Frankenbrow needs to fuck off and die--using Bianca's grief over Mimo to fluff his relationship with Kendall was just barfworthy. And he's getting in the way of the Kinks, dammit. (Though it is amusing watching Kendall not being at all happy about Ryan and Bianca.)
The first part was sad, but whee! Grieving!Bianca is so over. The rest of the ep, she looked positively cheery in comparison. And her bullshit detector is totally functional. She knew Ryan and Kendall were keeping something from her (the wrecked incubator). Telling Ryan that she wanted to sign the Cambias estate back over to him immediately, so that Kryan would think that she had given up the idea of looking for Miranda, was quite crafty. That enabled her to convince them to leave so she could proceed with investigating. Finally one of the Kane-Montgomerys wants to talk to the pilot. You go, Bianca. If they'd just put her and Tad together for two minutes, this whole thing would be figured out (especially since Tad is one of the people who knows there was originally a question about whose baby "Bess" was). Nuts to Uncle Foo Foo for tying Tad up in other shtick.
Somewhere Erica is laughing.
Word. Kendall is up the creek without a paddle when it comes to dealing with Bianca when she's like this, yo. I almost feel sorry for her, but it's just funny, and endearingly Kinksy in its way--Kendall can't imagine that her girlfister might get up to something behind her back.
Watching Lena push Eeeeeevil Paul around in the previews was great.
txm79
Apr 5, 2004 @ 4:50 pm
It is a sad, sad day when MoronMia is talking more sense than Liza.
I was thinking the same thing. What a crappy storyline when Mia is the voice of reason.
I was watching TV very early on Saturday morning, and I saw Jerry Falwell on some show on Fox News and he was talking about how evil soap operas are. I was like, "Oh my God, he knows about Kinks! Stay away from Kinks!" It was just more Janet's Boob fallout, though. It was really funny. I was fearing for Kinks so I actually sat there and watched.
caitmcg
Apr 5, 2004 @ 4:53 pm
Watching Lena push Eeeeeevil Paul around in the previews was great.
Word to that. Because it's about time we saw righteousbaba!Lena again, and it's about time for Eeeeeevil Paul to get a righteous smackdown.
Black Knight
Apr 5, 2004 @ 4:59 pm
I was watching TV very early on Saturday morning, and I saw Jerry Falwell on some show on Fox News and he was talking about how evil soap operas are. I was like, "Oh my God, he knows about Kinks! Stay away from Kinks!"
Hee. There was a hilarious April Fool's joke article posted in the Kinks thread on Eden's board that was very much along the same lines.
regis
Apr 5, 2004 @ 5:04 pm
has been cracking me up since I first read your post, regis. We’re talking desk-slapping, gasping for breath, out-loud, chortlin’.
Aww.
2deadcows, make me blush.
Black KnightBut Christian, please, please shave already.
Oh yeah, and while you’re at it please wash the hair. Maybe a hair cut too.
Sigh, I’m so glad you all are here because I can barely stand to watch this show anymore. Sadly, I still care about some of these fictional characters, so reading your posts is the only thing that keeps it bearable. I’m looking forward to some ass kickin’ Lena tomorrow though!
Mysticks Muse
Apr 5, 2004 @ 5:06 pm
Yeah, that article is what caused our recent troll (I still think it's Marge) to come over here.
By the way, I know we were discussing the origin of the "Kinks" couple acronym over on Eden's board. We all knew Black Knight coined the term, but today while back reading some old posts here, I'd like to report that the term "Kinks" was official coined by Black Night on November 21 at 6:27 p.m.
Black Knight
Apr 5, 2004 @ 5:35 pm
Oof. I just went looking for that post, and it was way back on page 150--interesting to see how opinions change over time. Back then I was whining at the idea of any Babe/Bianca friendship, but my malicious glee over the Nagster's wardrobe remains constant.
Stinkerbella
Apr 5, 2004 @ 5:36 pm
the term "Kinks" was official coined by Black Night on November 21 at 6:27 p.m.
Ah, that date will live in infamy and deep in our hearts. So Nov. 21st is when the Kinks Sled to Hell officially began picking up passengers. Does everyone remember when they specifically purchased their 'one-way' ticket. I certainly do. Its the day I knew there was no going back...no going back to pure and innocent thinking. Corrupted forever, I was.
I didn't tune in today so I'm not able to snark on specifics but I did catch the previews and watching Lena go off on Fugly!Paul (Pugly?) will have me tuning in tomorrow. Pugly, get ready to meet the Overly Protective Formally-Amoral European Bitch! Your whirly-bird can't fly you out fast enough!
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