Mystic0
Mar 11, 2004 @ 10:45 am
Question for Sledders: If it means no Kinks... would you take this deal? McTavish and team kicked to the curb?
Black Knight pretty much summed up my position as well. I also don't think everything will magically be fixed when McT is canned. So I don't know if I would be willing to give up Kinks only to have another sucky-ass writer come in. Horrid writing and no Kinks to help me through??? Forget that! I know if you're a Lianca fan (as I am) it's heresy to insult the old writers but other than FEM, those guys blew.
Hard. At least McT let the vets out of the attic and gave them some screen time. Too bad the woman can't write for shit. I'm not sure there are any really good soap writers out there anymore and if there are, would Frons hire them? I think I'll just chill back with my Kinks and wait for McT's inevitable firing. Then see what freak replaces her. (shrugs) I'm complacent.
but was anybody else loving the hell out of RoyallyPissedOff!Adam the other day?
Yes, I love Adam, evil amoral bastard that he is. I wish he and JR could get along without Adam having to lick JR's boots, though. I'm past sick of that shit.
I can buy them as friends, and I think they'd be cool as friends, but romance? Right now, not feeling it.
Me, either. Now Roni, dammit, had chemistry to spare. (grumbling)
Anyway, MBJ is a really natural actor. I think he's a little like Alicia and Eden, having chemistry, of some kind, with just about anything.
ETA:
By the way, for the benefit of those of us who are stuck at work reading PBP of today's episode, could some of you maybe give us a few more details of the Kinks scenes than we usually might get? Please.
For you, future Sled Master, consider it done! I'll try to cover the pervy basics but
Black Knight will probably get to watch live and I'm sure she'll sum up the money shots in exquisite detail.
Jefffro
Mar 11, 2004 @ 12:08 pm
Ok, Bobby Warner was ALL OVER the show a few years ago. I am sure that Erica did not miss the whole crazyness going on....especially since Bobby is the FATHER of Sammy. There was such a huige mess with that crapfest that no one on the show was spared becoming part of it.
You can not tell me that no one remembers him now. That just is not right. And anyway....Erica was pals with his parents (Nina and Cliff) for a quite a while too.
Ok, so Bobby is probably a gambling addict. Cool, lets put all the addicts in one story together and get the grandfather of AMC addiction (Tom) to come back to offer Jack some words of wisdom. Classic!
Desire' DuBois???? LOL.....that is a knee slapper.
Did Greenlee just say she wanted to use "Vanessa" as her fake name? Why would she WANT to use the name of Leo's Mother/murderer???? Sloppy sloppy sloppy.
And while were on the subject...WHY oh WHY is it so damned important to run a con to stay at the hotel? I guess the "thrill" of committing crimes is great fun.....so much for Greenlee turning over a new leaf and trying to be good, or whatever.....I honestly do not pay that story too much attention. I would rather Greenlee still be in the mineshaft....so she gets the shaft when the viewers do too.
Anita - I like her. She brings the pretty and I can watch the pretty all day long. Just don't try to be her "hero"....cause she is not the kind of woman who needs saving.....EVA!!! (And not Eva as in Eva LaRue...LOL!)
Ah.....how I wish Brooke and Tom will have a discussion about speedbump Laura.....maybe tomorrow....
Black Knight
Mar 11, 2004 @ 12:35 pm
Oooo,
mirashima, thanks for the link. That is an adorable, and hot, photo of Alicia. She's so photogenic it should be illegal (except for when she's got straight hair--I will forever be confuzzled as to why that one site devoted to Alicia screencaps has a photo of her with straight hair as the background photo. WTF?). I hope you enjoyed the Kinks goodness of Monday, btw.
And y'all are killing me over on Eden's board. Bwah! I love you all.
Reggie's new love interest: verdict is still out. I was too distracted by all her skin showing when there was fake snow on the ground.
Yeah, I noticed the weather-inappropriate top. But, true to myself, I just oinked! She's cute. Decent abs. What? I'm in withdrawal while Eden's in maternity wear. But does someone know the actress's age, so that I can find out whether I'm oinking over jailbait? (However, she needs to work on her shooting form. I played basketball in high school and that bugged.)
I know if you're a Lianca fan (as I am) it's heresy to insult the old writers but other than FEM, those guys blew. Hard.
And I think FEM was mostly Agnes anyway, not the headwriters of the time. The Kane Women were written pitch-perfect, including their relationship parallels with their love interests, during that period, and we're seeing the same thing again now.
I'll try to cover the pervy basics but Black Knight will probably get to watch live and I'm sure she'll sum up the money shots in exquisite detail.
Are you implying that I am a tad obsessive? Over-analytical? Hmmph. (Guilty.)
This really just gives me an opening to Kinks-gush some more. I actually have not missed Alicia and Eden's absence the last two days (I hope they got some rest, massages at a spa, and so forth, because they need and deserve it!), because I've had the Monday ep goodness to re-watch. And so, a couple additional comments:
First, while I really can't pick a favorite bit, I've definitely decided on a favorite line. We had many gloriously pervy lines, many sweet ones, many cute ones...but in the end, I realized I had to go with Bianca's "You gonna help me out with
everything?" The backup music is perfectly matched to the line, but it's really all in Eden's demeanor and delivery, folks. She takes a non-pervy-on-paper line and makes it all kinds of hot and suggestive and lovey-dovey, a barely-veiled marriage proposal. (And Kinks has their cover story for every time someone catches one coming out of the other's bedroom. "Oh, she was just helping me out with [insert random excuse here]." Yeah,
helping out. Another Kinksed phrase...)
Second, I was so preoccupied by how cute Alicia was during the puppy-dog bit that I really didn't pay much attention to the psychological undertones. I mean, yes, we got that the puppy was in part Kendall's way of finding a reason to be at Bianca's 24/7, giving her sister a reason to still need her. But, also, on another level
Kendall is the puppy. And so a lot of the dialogue was very meta. Kendall is a lot of work, "chaos in a dress" as Bianca once commented to Ryan, but she's worth it, because she'll love you unconditionally and be eternally loyal. (Or, to go back again to what Bianca said to Ryan, "love bigger and harder than anyone"...ha!) Notice the way Alicia said, "You won't be able to get rid of me!"--she breaks out the dog-like delivery on that line too. I was so eeeeeeee'ing over the cuteness of Alicia that I didn't register the subtle psychology of her performance right away. Kudos to her. I wanted to get those comments in because I know that after today's ep, we'll be busy eeeeeeee'ing over that. Heh.
Mystic0
Mar 11, 2004 @ 12:54 pm
Are you implying that I am a tad obsessive? Over-analytical? Hmmph.
(snicker) No, I'm just saying you're
observant. ;)
We had many gloriously pervy lines, many sweet ones, many cute ones...but in the end, I realized I had to go with Bianca's "You gonna help me out with everything?"
You know what I loved most about Eden's delivery of that line? The note of
challenge that it had. *rowr* Bianca rarely does it, but on occasion, she'll step up close to someone and have this air about her that just permeates with "Come and get it if you think you're bad enough, mofo." (shivers) Man.....gets me on the ropes every single time. Unfortunately, we don't get to see that often enough. :(
Black Knight
Mar 11, 2004 @ 1:07 pm
Word, Mystic0. I don't know how Kendall restrained herself from just pulling Bianca to her and kissing her after that. Yum.
See, there's the double standard. Bianca's been shown kissing two other women full on the lips. But here she and Kendall agree to get married and everything, and they're only allowed to hug to celebrate their engagement. Unfair! Why the double standard for incestuous lesbian sisters, huh? Huh?
(goes off to find crowbar to remove tongue from cheek)
kariyaki
Mar 11, 2004 @ 1:11 pm
The ultimate personal shout-out! Mauria's line: "I had the couch recovered." I can see again! The Neon Green Couch of Doom is no more.
CKD
Mar 11, 2004 @ 1:39 pm
Fellow Sledders, today's Kinks is so good and so full of touchy perviness.
Bianca (putting Kendall's hand on VolderMimo) " You can have it, too (referring to everything that's good in the world) with me and the baby. And Ryan."
And then they can both smell the rain in the morning from the window of the dream house. Heh heh.
ETA: Melissa Etheridge for the last scenes? Bianca with her hands on Kendall? Stroking her arm? Kendall with her head on Bianca's lap? *snicker* So gay. So SisYay. So Kinks. So perfect.
kariyaki
Mar 11, 2004 @ 1:45 pm
Well, the dream house was Ryan's old place. Kendall's talk about cuddling up by the fireplace and smelling the rain in the morning was either a fond memory of the brief times with Ryan or wistful thinking about herself and Bianca. *ahem* Guess which one I'm leaning towards.
aich
Mar 11, 2004 @ 1:48 pm
Step away from the worry stone, Tad! STEP AWAY FROM THE WORRY STONE!
Gack, I hope that Krystal isn't the woman Tad falls for. I rilly rilly RILLY hope its anyone but her. I wouldn't mind if he fell head over heels for that ridiculous ginormous golfball in his living room instead of stupid Krystal.
Of course, MMT says
he'll fall for the woman we least expect. Which is stupid, because I would be surprised if it were anyone but Krystal. But what the writer's think is a surprise, never seems to be a surprise to the viewers.
I love that Adam was subjected to Liza's booty call. Heh.
That cracked me up too. At first I was all, WTF? We haven't seen Liza since the "shower" (and I'm still perplexed by her big group hug with Bianca and Babe. I mean, Liza sent her hench monkeys to ambush Bianca on her way home from school back when Erica was snatchin' babies. But whatever- who needs to remember history?) But the concept of a booty call was quite funny. You don't see enough blatant booty calls on Soaps anymore. And the fact that Adam had to bear witness upped the 'hee" factor considerably.
That said I wonder what scheme he's going to come up with. DC rocks and I love scheming Adam and Mary. I wonder if Tad is going declare his lurve for Krystal, dump Liza and Simone. THen Liza gets all pissed off and teams up with Adam and MAry to take down BAbe (and by extensoin Krystal and by an extended extension Tad). I dunno. Just speculation. I mean its not like Adam can take Colby away from Liza because she's banging Tad sporadically.
Black Knight
Mar 11, 2004 @ 1:56 pm
Kendall's talk about cuddling up by the fireplace and smelling the rain in the morning was either a fond memory of the brief times with Ryan or wistful thinking about herself and Bianca. *ahem* Guess which one I'm leaning towards.
When Bianca's saying stuff like, " You can have it, too (referring to everything that's good in the world) with me and the baby"
(thanks CKD), is it really wistful thinking on Kendall's part? Snerk. One hour to go here before I can see the ep!
I mean, Liza sent her hench monkeys to ambush Bianca on her way home from school back when Erica was snatchin' babies.
Oooo, I missed that. Someone want to fill me in on the backstory? (I know about Erica and Maria getting pregnant, Maria thinking her baby might be Dimitri's, Erica losing her baby and stealing Maria's. But how did Liza get involved?)
kariyaki
Mar 11, 2004 @ 2:00 pm
When Bianca's saying stuff like, " You can have it, too (referring to everything that's good in the world) with me and the baby" (thanks CKD), is it really wistful thinking on Kendall's part?
It's more like wistful I-can't-wait-to-do-that wistful. Tee hee.
When Mauria was tucking Edmund in, I actually cringed when she picked up that bottle of lotion. It's a Pavlovian condition. I was SO afraid of what she was going to do with it. Thankfully, she was just tidying up.
Hannah in the previews! Hannah in the previews! Eeeeeeeee!
CKD
Mar 11, 2004 @ 2:03 pm
Oh good god. From the 3/23/04 SOD:
"AMC has not yet disclosed her final air date. Sources
say that before her departure, Sosnovska will cross
over, in character, to OLTL."
I don't even know what to say.
YAY KINKS!
Well, ok, so I lied.
Edited to add full story:
SOD 3/23/04
"Sosnovska Quits AMC"
Olga Sosnovska, who made her first AMC appearance as Lena Kundera on January 2, 2003, has opted to leave the role that catapulted her to icon status among fans who championed her on-screen romance with Eden Riegel's Bianca.
The reason for her decision? Sosnovska landed a plum part on the BBC series MI-5, which shoots in London and has aired here on the A&E network. "I want to thank all of my loving fans for their support over the past year" said the actress in a statement. "ABC and All My Children have been incredibly supportive and in no way was it their decision or intent to have me leave this wonderful show....Lianca will live in our hearts forever, especially mine."
Sosnovska has told Digest that she never expected to make daytime her permanent home. "I completely understand anyone who does," she said. "But I'd like to think it's still too early in my career to get too comfortable. I am ambitious and I'd like to do as much of a variety of things as possible; that's why I entered this profession."
AMC has not yet disclosed her final air date. Sources say that before her departure, Sosnovska will cross over, in character, to OLTL.
Most of it is not even a spoiler anymore, but just to be safe...
Sally4th
Mar 11, 2004 @ 2:11 pm
I watched over lunch with ma mere today and, as the end scenes rolled and Melissa Etheridge sang and Kendall leaned back into Bianca's lap while Binky stroked her hair, mom said the following: "Well, s**t. Looks like they really are in love, doesn't it? If only they weren't sisters... " Can't have everything, ma.
On a hopeful note -- So long, McT. Don't let the screen door hit you where the good lord split you.
Mystic0
Mar 11, 2004 @ 2:15 pm
Melissa Etheridge for the last scenes? Bianca with her hands on Kendall? Stroking her arm? Kendall with her head on Bianca's lap? *snicker* So gay. So SisYay. So Kinks. So perfect.
(weeps) That was a thing of beauty. (weeps)
Praise Pervy, it don't get no gayer than that. Fabulous Kinks today, folks. They didn't get as much screen time as I would have liked, but they delivered, as usual. Kendall and JR as the proud papas looking adoringly at their women? Hee! Kinks couldn't keep their hands off each other so I guess the two days straight
brainstorming went well. They were adorable at Lamaze and scorchingly hot on the bench. The Kinks (and Erica!) dialogue is primed and ready for pervy filtering. Oh, Pervy, you are wonderful! Mmmm......that end shot. Smokin'! *rowr* I'm sure I have more to say but I'm still afterglowin', man.
Babe? Leg warmers??? Why???
ETA:
When Mauria was tucking Edmund in, I actually cringed when she picked up that bottle of lotion.
Word! Ugh...
Hee!
Momma4th rocks!
Black Knight
Mar 11, 2004 @ 2:16 pm
Hannah?? Whee! Please stay! I can't believe we were just talking about this yesterday and now a Hannah-sighting!
That's pretty great about Olga crossing over to OLTL--for one thing, if she's crossing over, we should be seeing Eden and Alicia crossing over at some point too. It'd be cool if Lena were the first to really get suspicious and start investigating.
CKD
Mar 11, 2004 @ 2:21 pm
That's what I'm hoping, BK: Lena will investigate, find out the truth and...a shot will ring out and kill her right then? I know Eden said Lena would not be killed off but, if she lives, then how will they explain her departure? She's so devoted to Bianca that it has to be done against her will in some way.
onewomanshow
Mar 11, 2004 @ 2:31 pm
Bianca (putting Kendall's hand on VolderMimo) " You can have it, too (referring to everything that's good in the world) with me and the baby. And Ryan."
"And Ryan--If that's what you want."
If that's what you want! As in, "Uh, if you're sure you want him around, cutting into our
brainstorming time, that is." EEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! And Kendall with her head in Binky's lap? So. . .Ah. . .totally. . .EEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! OOOO, to be a fly on the mantel of that "romantic fireplace" in the near future! Oh, Kinks, I wuv you darlings!
When Mauria was tucking Edmund in, I actually cringed when she picked up that bottle of lotion. It's a Pavlovian condition. I was SO afraid of what she was going to do with it.
Me too! Ugh. I actually shook. Look what those two have done to me with their porn.
And y'all are killing me over on Eden's board. Bwah! I love you all.
We Kinksers had to represent, right. Man, that was fun! (Yes, I'm 12, why do you ask?) Hee.
allergic2love
Mar 11, 2004 @ 2:34 pm
The Kinks touching and caressing...so wrong, but oh so damn gooooood.
Random cute guy in friend's apartment: "Dude, that is so hot."
Me: "Squeee! I know! Dammit! It's too bad they're sisters." (I can't believe I said that...)
RCGIFA: "So?! Isn't that kind of stuff soap opera GOLD!?"
Ahhh...one can only hope he's right. Listen to the horny guy, TPTB! Follow the path to pervy!
Mystic0
Mar 11, 2004 @ 3:31 pm
I forgot to say earlier how damn glad I was to hear Bianca say Kendall needs to move out of the condo. It's been bugging the hell outta me that Kendall keeps living across from Mikey's. It's like Myrtle keeping that damn couch, why torture yourself?
regis
Mar 11, 2004 @ 3:42 pm
I laughed at Babe stretching out her hand to caress Bianca's belly. This random hand poking out from the side of the screen, and almost getting Bianca's breast. Hee.
I remember way back when, when Kendall first arrived. I hated her. Didn't appreciate Alicia at all! I cursed her skinny-ness, especially when she turned to the side and almost disappeared. But my how things have changed! I love Kendall. And I think Alicia is just gorgeous.
I'm going to go check out Eden's board later and see what trouble you all have stirred up, flinging the Kinks around, taunting the humor-challenged.
I also laughed at the Melissa Etheridge song playing over the end. Play the lesbian singing while they show the Kinks making out on the park bench. Oh funny funny Pervy show! All the backlash from Janet Jackson's boob, and our little AMC is just slipping in the pervy stuff all over the place! Weeee!
Mystic0
Mar 11, 2004 @ 3:56 pm
I laughed at Babe stretching out her hand to caress Bianca's belly.
Yeah, what's up with that? Babe has been all over Binky's attributes lately. Who does she think she is? Kendall? I guess those pregnancy hormones really are wacky. Speaking of being skinny, Bianca looked mad thin today. She had this HUGE belly and her arms and shoulders looked so tiny.
I'm going to go check out Eden's board later and see what trouble you all have stirred up, flinging the Kinks around, taunting the humor-challenged.
Hee! One poster
finally told us we're going to hell. Squeeeeeeeeee!
Did y'all see the OLTL/AMC ad at the end of today's show?
shinji12
Mar 11, 2004 @ 4:01 pm
GOD! That song was TOO LOUD and killed the last act. BAD choice TPTB.
Good god i was having a GH flashback, "CANT THINK OF ANY THING ELSE TO WRITE!!!" "I know, lets play some craptastic music that doesnt fit the scene and drowns out the emotions on screen!", PRUZA.
Jefffro
Mar 11, 2004 @ 4:09 pm
filler filler filler
I remember the OLD OLD days when the actors used to have to improv the rest of a scene while the credits rolled.
That was always kind of fun to see them pretend to continue the discussion or fix dinner or clean the house. Usually it meant one of the actors looking at a picture or some other object and acting like they are remembering or reflecting on something.
Now it seems they have just written that mindless activity into the regular show.
CKD
Mar 11, 2004 @ 4:24 pm
Hee! One poster finally told us we're going to hell. Squeeeeeeeeee!
Bwah ha ha ha ha!
I know that poster: e-mails me once in a while about the AGR. She had an offer for me the other day which was so hilarious I'm still laughing about it. BAMmers: you says they don't have a sense of humor?
Mystic0, what was
the ad?
KerleyQ
Mar 11, 2004 @ 4:43 pm
I can't believe no one's brought this one up yet--when Babe and JR were talking about her squeezing his hand when she's in pain, and then the camera swept back on Kinks--they were holding onto each other in the most couply of ways, it was adorable. And I loved Erica's line to Ryan about how Bianca and Kendall don't need anybody but each other. Even a self-centered mother knows when her daughters are in love.
Greenlee must be turning over some kind of new leaf, worrying about Erica. I thought for sure when I saw the spoilers about her warning Bobby off of Erica that it was going to be her badmouthing Erica to him, not telling him to back off because he's her daddy's fiancee.
Now if you'll all excuse me, I have to go sneak a hydrocodone from my GH stash, I got hurt by that anvil that fell on me when JR told Babe he thinks it would be great to have a little girl.
Black Knight
Mar 11, 2004 @ 4:43 pm
Hee! One poster finally told us we're going to hell. Squeeeeeeeeee!
I saw that! Bwah! Complete with a threat to write to McTrash and put an end to it all (because McTrash is so known for responding to viewer concerns). It'll only make HER look Pervy for bringing it up. My POV: If AMC doesn't want us to see Kinks as the supercouple of the show, then they wouldn't be ending an episode with Kendall's head in Bianca's lap as Melissa Etheridge sings. Hee.
CKD,
I haven't seen where Eden said that...but I do think "dramatic exit" equals "killed off". I assumed that Lena would get shot or hit by a car or something just after learning the truth. Then there's either a cryptic message written in her own blood of just the letter "K", or she talks to Bianca and she's trying to gasp out the name "Kelly Cramer". I can see it now...Lena: "K--K--Ke--" Bianca: "Kendall?" (Lena dies)
Personally, I think it's stupid to kill Lena off--I mean no disrespect to Olga here, who I adored in the part. But if I were the writers, which I'm not, I'd send Lena away for a few months to take care of her sick mother. Then bring a recast on. There are too many built-in issues with Lianca, and too many potential future story plots from Lena's past, to just kill the character off and start all over with a brand-new love interest. Olga was fabulous as Lena, and a recast wouldn't be a walk in the park, but in the last couple of years I've seen two extremely difficult parts recast--Kendall, and OLTL's Todd--and it can work with the right actor, especially if some time elapses in between. AMC is much better at casting actresses than actors, to boot.I laughed at Babe stretching out her hand to caress Bianca's belly. This random hand poking out from the side of the screen, and almost getting Bianca's breast. Hee.
I noticed that too. She was veeeeery touchy-feely again, and did you catch her calling Bianca "girlfriend"? Babe, I completely understand you wanting to get it on with Bianca, but perhaps being so overt in front of Bianca's girlfriend and your own husband is not the best idea.
Yay, Bobby/Greenlee really do have chemistry! Reggie/Danielle--definitely still not feeling any romantic chemistry there. They'd be great as friends.
Edmund? Shut up. And aw, I like Anita. She's the third best sister ever.
First I started off being annoyed because Erica and Ryan were going on about how Kendall can't trust anyone--and then Erica stopped and pointed out there is one person Kendall trusts and would do anything for! I was giggling madly as they discussed Kinks's mad love and inseparableness. They sooooo know what's going on. When Greenlee started badgering Ryan about Kendall, I was all, "Leave the guy alone. He's dealing with the knowledge Kendall has been banging her sister behind his back." Snerk. I also smiled to see that the Kane-Montgomery siblings are on collision course. Greenlee wants to make amends, and the trio of Reggie/Kendall/Bianca are very firmly anti-Greens. She's got her work cut out for her.
The Kinks was subtler today than Monday's ep, but still excellent. I just really liked their couple-y vibes today. Kendall looking concerned, but trying to hide it, over Bianca's upcoming childbirth ordeal.
For which we're getting killed by anvils--Bianca is soooooo not going to be able to get pregnant again after this. And now we know that Miranda will be masquerading as Elizabeth. Kendall cuddling Bianca while JR cuddled Babe--sure enough, another totally couple-y vibe, I was expecting Kendall to kiss Bianca, and the camera cuts away to show JR kissing Babe. Heh. A lot of googly eyeshagging on both their parts. The park scenes...the talk about where they're each going to live was interesting. First Kendall not at all liking the thought of Bianca moving into the other house she has lined up (just ask Bianca to live with you already, Kendall!). Then there was a bitchy-girlfriend vibe from Bianca as she started pushing Kendall hard to move out of the damn condo. There was such a "If you keep living there, you can forget about me spending the night, 'k?" attitude. Hee. And the end. Siiiiiiiiigggghhhh...Kinks. They are the magic. And AMC knows it. Hee.
aich
Mar 11, 2004 @ 4:50 pm
I mean, Liza sent her hench monkeys to ambush Bianca on her way home from school back when Erica was snatchin' babies.
Oooo, I missed that. Someone want to fill me in on the backstory? (I know about Erica and Maria getting pregnant, Maria thinking her baby might be Dimitri's, Erica losing her baby and stealing Maria's. But how did Liza get involved?)
Black Knight I probably wouldn't have remembered that either, but I just found that particular episode on an old AMC tape and then seeing the shower just made it more WTF?-esque.
But what happened was after Erica got caught baby-snatching, Adam (who was married in name only to Liza) paid Erica's bail and was made her legal responsibility so she had to live with A and L (he just wanted to make Liza jealous). Needless to say Erica and Liza didn't take to kindly to one another.
Anyway, Liza sent some reporters to ambush Bianca on her way home from school to get her reaction to her mom being arrested for kidnapping for a news piece WRCW was doing. Bianca was crying and all, "Leave me alone! Leave me alone!" (It was the anorexic Bianca who was quite good I think). Then the reporter is all, "Just one more question, Miss Montgomery. Did you know the baby is the love child of Dmitri Marick and Maria Santos-Grey?" And Bianca is all deer in the headlights stunned.
So that was that. Then Erica saw the piece and freaked the fuck out and reamed Liza a new asshole telling how she's an awful person and she should never have children because she's so evil and this was all, like, one minute after Liza took a pregnancy test and was freaked out at discovering she was pregnant with Adam's baby.
It was true soapy goodness.
SkiffyPup
Mar 11, 2004 @ 4:55 pm
Oh, what to say? How to share without rehashing the above points?
From subtextual- to textual- and now, it's official! KINKS. They're official girlfisters!
Additional shout outs for Kendall stroking Bianca's thigh. Then doing it again, just to make sure she felt the love. Great way to start the Fondle!Kinks! I watched down in the lunchroom with the marketing girls ... and they think it's funny that we're shipping sisters.
Babe is trying to keep a hand in play for sure. It looked like she wanted to go higher and was sending the vibe: When you arent too busy with your girlfister and girlfriend, I'm SO available.
Wonder how Ethridge feels about her song being used for such glorious sisterly incestual love? I hope she can be down with the Kinks.
Lena should find Mimo- Then go to Cambias Europe on a short trip and catch a viral infection that has her in an "ir"reversable coma! Bianca (who refuses to unplug her lover) can arrange for her care in a specialized facility in Switzerland ... then refer to her every now and then to keep the memory alive. Then if Olga becomes available someday ... they can wake Lena up and ship her home.
Black Knight
Mar 11, 2004 @ 5:01 pm
But the marketing girls,
SkiffyPup, do see how Kinks is rather unsisterly, right? Heh.
Ah yes, the thigh rubs. I can't wait to get home and rewatch. There was just a lot of smaller, subtle stuff going on during the scenes at the...clinic? Hospital? Wherever they were. Not easy to recap, way too innumerable really to list, but fun to watch. I know I lost count of the eyeshags. Suffice to say they were being couple-y, couple-y, couple-y.
Wonder how Ethridge feels about her song being used for such glorious sisterly incestual love? I hope she can be down with the Kinks.
People have to be started off slow, I'm sure Etheridge is no exception. Show them the earlier scenes, let them adjust...then they start realizing this shit is hella funny...then they end up letting go of their inhibitions and becoming full-fledged shippers. Like
kariyaki says, Kinks is the Borg. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Hee.
ETA:
Skiffy,
I'd be down with that if I believed there was a chance in hell that Olga's ever returning. But I doubt it. Her career's going far too well--it's not just MI-5 in itself, but the mucho opportunities she's going to get because of it. She doesn't want to play one character year-round for years, and that's fine. So, I still say recast after a certain amount of time has elapsed. The character and couple are too good to toss. I'm not taking anything away from Olga here--I think she's got a unique quality about her--but time does help make recasts more palatable, especially if the recast has chemistry with the original other half of the couple. And since that's Eden, I doubt chemistry would be an issue.
Mystic0
Mar 11, 2004 @ 5:08 pm
I can't believe no one's brought this one up yet--when Babe and JR were talking about her squeezing his hand when she's in pain, and then the camera swept back on Kinks--they were holding onto each other in the most couply of ways, it was adorable.
Damn that director! When Kinks are ca-noodling, you keep the camera on
Kinks, idiot! I found myself doing that idiotic thing where you're craning your neck around trying to see other angles of the shot. Yes, that's pathetic, but you could see Bianca's shoulder moving around in the frame and I wanna know what they were doing! (pouts)
The Kinks was subtler today than Monday's ep, but still excellent.
Well, they
had been off brainstorming for a few days so I guess they worked some of that sexual tension out. But, man, it was still oddly hot when Binks was rubbing Kendall's shoulder. *rowr*
The park scenes...the talk about where they're each going to live was interesting.
I was cracking up at how much Kendall mirrored Lena in that scene. "Come on, Binks, it's perfect! You'll love it!". Hee, it was funny/creepy seeing Kendall channel Lena. Anyway, all this house talk has to be going somewhere, right?
CKD, someone up thread described the
ad better than I can. It's just a black screen with different voices (Bianca's, Babe's, people I don't know's) and words. Cryptic, man.
SkiffyPup
Mar 11, 2004 @ 5:22 pm
Kinks were petting each other. Gosh. So much fondling in one episode, we have to break it down and tell which fondle we're referencing!
Oh, and it's all worth it to defend Kinks in North Korea. We have a recruit! (Thanks to the anti-Kinksers.)
Black Knight
Mar 11, 2004 @ 5:25 pm
Yup,
jenmarie did a nice job of describing the promo upthread. There's also a detailed description of it over in the spoilers section on Eden's board.
Mystic0,
the voice you don't recognize is Kelly's.But, man, it was still oddly hot when Binks was rubbing Kendall's shoulder. *rowr*
Oh, definitely. I said the SisYay was subtler, I didn't say they weren't mad hot. It's just that you can't get any more overt than a marriage proposal and two rounds of declarations of love. Hee!
Anyway, all this house talk has to be going somewhere, right?
I firmly believe it is. Kendall obviously doesn't want Bianca moving into a house of her own, and Bianca obviously doesn't want Kendall living in that condo. Snerk. It never fails to crack me up how girlfriend-y they are. Frankly, even though it's Ryan's old house, I gotta cast my vote with that. I'm sure Dorky!Lena did a hella nice job with her bungalow selection, and Binks signed off on it, but it also sounded there's lots of potential for tweeness, and I hate twee. I like more contemporary places, and I'm sure Kinks would get contemporary furniture to match. I'm afraid if Bianca moves into the bungalow the set designers will decorate the place a lot like Myrtle's, and then my eyes will explode. We only just got rid of the Neon Green Couch.
allergic2love
Mar 11, 2004 @ 5:32 pm
I just read through all the Kinks posts on Eden's board with the biggest smile plastered on my face. Bwah! That was pure gold. Hey, you think our rooms in hell will come with cable?
Aww Skiffy, you referenced my post. That warms my pervy, Kinks-lovin' heart.
CKD
Mar 11, 2004 @ 5:33 pm
I can't believe no one's brought this one up yet--when Babe and JR were talking about her squeezing his hand when she's in pain, and then the camera swept back on Kinks--they were holding onto each other in the most couply of ways, it was adorable.
I noticed and stuck it in the recap. Commenting here and not repeating myself in the recap is hard work, man!
How about when Babe and Bianca had the confab and J.R. and Kendall were left behind to beam like proud papas? Sniff.
BK,
Eden made those comments at the latest fan dinner thing. How she would know that considering that Lena's exit is yet to be written is beyond me. I don't want Lena to be killed off, either: I'm just wondering how they'll get her out of Pine Valley now that she's so clearly established as utterly devoted to Bianca. Accident? Mother's illness? Cambias Industries Down Under? *heh* Any of those exits would be so blah and scribes at AMC have said it'll be "very dramatic," so none of those scenarios could possibly work out. Of course, they've said very many things about Lena, none of which have turned out to be true, so fuck them and let's just have fun speculating. A recast down the road is not a bad idea: I wish AMC good luck with that explosive mine!jenmarie , thank you for the promo descrition. Weird stuff.
onlyinPV
Mar 11, 2004 @ 5:34 pm
Agreed Black night. I can't picture Bianca surrounded by chintz and cabbage roses. Too fusty and old lady, and we already have Myrtle's house for that!
Anyboby else crack up when Kendall went on and on about the woo-mantic fireplace? I swear, Pervy Writer totally makes my day.
Mystic0
Mar 11, 2004 @ 5:55 pm
I said the SisYay was subtler, I didn't say they weren't mad hot. It's just that you can't get any more overt than a marriage proposal and two rounds of declarations of love.
True dat, yo! Since I have Kinks goin' round in a fatal loop in my head, I'll go ahead and WORD! you on how couple-y Kinks are. What's really getting me is how they've got that non-verbal communication thing going on. There were a million good examples of that on the wedding shower ep, but today's best was that Kendall just plopped her noggin in Binky's lap and Bianca was totally prepared for it. Guess Kendall does that often. Hee! And an added note, Weary!Kendall is hot! (I know Alicia is supposed to be sick while filming some of these eps, I wonder if today's was one?) As is Eden, any old time they have her peering down at somebody. Mmmmmmmm, Kinks!
I can't wait to get home and rewatch.
Yeah, there is a lot of note that you just can't catch on one viewing. *cough*
Kinks were petting each other.
Which is made all the richer because not long ago, these two wouldn't have spit on each other if they were on fire. Boy, they've sure come a long way. Heh.
Black Knight
Mar 11, 2004 @ 6:10 pm
You know what would be hella funny? If the Kinks-hater on Eden's board did write to McTrash, and her letter actually received some attention...and AMC either a) had it revealed that Kendall really isn't Bianca's half-sister or b) gave Alicia a lookalike character to play. Just so that Eden and Alicia can hook up onscreen for real. "Hey, we just realized that the chemistry was too strong to ignore, the audience was picking up on it...so we decided to take advantage." Snerk. (Mind you, I don't actually suggest AMC go this way. It's just funny to think of a Kinks-hating letter working in the opposite way than intended.)
Anyboby else crack up when Kendall went on and on about the woo-mantic fireplace?
Oh yes indeedy. Kendall, quit angling and just
ask Bianca already to live with you. (I think her current plan is to get Bianca to move into the house first. Then move in herself.) Sure, with your constant insecurities you're probably afraid she'll say no, but you know the puppy-dog eyes work on her.
CKD, thanks for answering my question.
Just because Lena's exit hasn't been written doesn't mean the show doesn't know how it's going to go down, and I'm sure they developed two separate scenarios in advance, one for Olga staying, one for Olga leaving. Here's an idea that would cover both "not being killed off" and "dramatic exit": Lena finds out the truth, so Kelly/Paul kidnap her and fake her death. Months from now, a recast Lena gets free.
I think AMC could get away with a recast--assuming a charming actress with acting ability, of course--because many of the hardcore Olga fans are leaving along with her and have no plans to return unless Olga herself does. These viewers would likely never accept a recast, but it's a moot issue, because they won't be watching in any case. The viewers who are going to continue to watch are more likely to be amenable to the idea of a recast in time, when the grieving process for Olga is over.What's really getting me is how they've got that non-verbal communication thing going on. There were a million good examples of that on the wedding shower ep,
Yup, that gets me too. Eden and Alicia have just built a really good non-verbal dynamic together which is totally helping the couple-y vibe. They're very tuned into each other.
CKD
Mar 11, 2004 @ 6:43 pm
Does anyone on this board watch OLTL? I don't, but I obviously will when Lena crosses over, so - if you can give a heads-up, that would be bomb diggity.
I'm still riding high from all the Kinks and I'm loving the coronaries we're giving folks over at the RR. Heh. I love the Dark Father.
SkiffyPup
Mar 11, 2004 @ 7:03 pm
That Kinks thread is getting better and better. I am loving the humor challenged!
I just reminds me of what people must think when they lurk TWoP. Hi interns! Pass on our two thumbs up for today, k?
CKD
Mar 11, 2004 @ 7:06 pm
Request from a peep at the AGR: "does anyone have a cappy of the Kinks Lap Dance?" Bwah!
If you have it, share it. I'm off to piss off more people on other boards.
Black Knight
Mar 11, 2004 @ 7:06 pm
I watch OLTL, and am happy to answer any questions, keep y'all updated, whatever. Most significantly, at the moment, Kelly is currently in the hospital in Pine Valley, having miscarried her child. She's arranged for her husband and family to be told that she's in Texas for a few days, while she tries to figure out what to do. So there you go, she's right on the scene. So likely Paul's gonna take Babe and Bianca and their babies in and hand Babe's baby right off to Kelly at the hospital. Fuckers. (calms self with thoughts of when Kinks finds out)
I noticed we're also cracking some non-Kinks posters up over at the thread. That's so often the doorway into Kinks-shipping, the humor of it all. Speaking of which, my east coast friend had been laughing at me for months over Kinks. A few weeks ago, she started tipping me off via IM if the ep was particularly Kinksy. But I think Monday's wedding shower ep really bowled her over--she IM'd, told me Kinks was out of control and they needed to get a room, etc. etc. Today? She finally asked me for my fan fic story. (smirk) One more for the sled!
ETA: All right, who here is princesslara on Eden's board? Come on, step up, accept your prize and my adulation for being a great Kinksfan and backing up the rest of us...
Stinkerbella
Mar 11, 2004 @ 7:33 pm
Dammit! I missed good Kinkage today! For the past few months I've been weaning myself off AMC and it just got easier because Comedy Central is showing reruns of Strangers with Candy...so thats what I was watching instead. And sadly I missed Kink lovin'. Damn, I gave up Kinks My Kinks for Jerri Blank. Oh well, I'm sure there will be more to come with the birth of Mimo.
And I kinda like the rumor that Lena might crossover to OLTL. I used to watch OLTL. I know that if Lena crosses over that it'll involve Kelly but wouldn't it be cool if Lena runs into Blair while investigating and sparks fly between them. Then maybe Blair's bitchiness will reignite the Amoral European Bitch in Lena again and she decides that being with a hellion like Blair would be much more fun and exciting than being with Saint Binks. Can you imagine the hell and mischief Blair & Lena could make in Llanview! In fantasyland, I am. Or would that be too much rape in Lena's love life?
I really do not want Olga to ever return to AMC. I'm sure her career will be going up so why go back down? They can recast Lena or whatever but I hope Olga never looks back...and it doesn't look like she ever would.
Edited twice cuz my dyslexia will never allow me to post without screwups.
Mysticks Muse
Mar 11, 2004 @ 7:47 pm
Somebody with some Kinks screencaps. Please go spam the "Bianca hug thread" at Eden's board. There are all these little Baggie hugs. Somebody show them some pictures of what a real hug is. Please. It will be lots of fun. I promise.
Black Knight
Mar 11, 2004 @ 7:56 pm
Oh, if someone's got a screencap of the Monday sofa hug, that'd be perfect. Snerk.
CKD
Mar 11, 2004 @ 7:58 pm
This is a bit OT, but not really.
Writing the AGR is great fun because I get uproriously funny e-mails from BAMmers and assorted Eden/Liz lovers. This particular person has written to me several times and, today, it's about my love for Kinks. It's not a spolier, but I'll tag it out of, erm, respect.
In reading your All Gay Recaps today, I'm sadly disappointed. After arguing with a bunch of perves over on Eden's board, I was expecting more from you. I think you need to reassess your sense of humor. I didn't want to be the one to point this out, but a lot of fans read your recaps, and you represent not just yourself, but all lesbians....is the incestuous loving vibe really the light in which you want others to see us? Just think about it my dear friend and partner...
Cracked my shit up! Most of all, since I represent lesbians everywhere, all of you who are gay will now have to agree with everything I say, ok? OK!
Kinks is love.
Black Knight
Mar 11, 2004 @ 8:10 pm
Perfect logic, CKD. I'm dying at the fact that e-mailer didn't realize that YOU were one of us Kinksfans causing trouble today...bwah!
Kinks is love.
More hug screencaps that would be perfect if anyone's got them: The Shining White Light Hug, the parallel comfort hugs Bianca and Kendall rushed to give each other after disaster descended on each of them in court, the hug on the couch in the briefing room, the Flirty Head Tilt hug...
Kinks is love.
SkiffyPup
Mar 11, 2004 @ 8:18 pm
Partner? BWAH! Perfect, CK. You've got to nip that in the bud before she starts claiming that to others. Post something somewhere! Ha! But, like Allergic2love, we aren't really lesbians anymore. AMC has turned us into guys.
How high up Bianca's thigh was Kendall rubbing today? Pretty damn high. Twice. All the girls get their oink on when touching Eden, notice? Babe wanted to go higher with the disembodied hand of feel-up too.
Kinks is Love - Just another reason to lament the loss of fan banner ads.
Black Knight
Mar 11, 2004 @ 8:27 pm
All the girls get their oink on when touching Eden, notice?
Smart girls. I pity Eden when they cast her next leading lady. Ever since Olga blabbed about how Eden offered to take her out to dinner to get to know each other better, I just know every gay/bisexual actress in NY has filed that tidbit of info away in their heads and will take advantage. Certainly I would. "Eden, dinner was so lovely, but I still just don't feel I know you well enough yet to be comfortable. Dinner same time tomorrow?"
And OMG, I can't believe what happened in the last hour or so on Eden's board. Y'all rock.
Kinks is love. (Don't remind me about all the lost opportunities for banner ads these days, please...at least
kariyaki put
Mystic0's suggestion up at Soap Slut. Hee!
CKD
Mar 11, 2004 @ 8:29 pm
Partner? BWAH! Perfect, CK. You've got to nip that in the bud before she starts claiming that to others. Post something somewhere! Ha!
You know that comes from that other e-mail she sent about wanting to, erm,
underwrite the AGR. I thought I'd killed it, but...I dunno, they love me. Why do attract the Marges of the world? Thank god my girlfriend's normal.
BK, it kills me to see you post as "Christina" over there. Bwah!
I wanna see screencaps, too: I'll go trolling and bring back what I find.
Mysticks Muse
Mar 11, 2004 @ 8:31 pm
Y'all have corrupted me so bad. I almost fell out of my chair laughing when I went to check out the Kinks thread, only to find there are 69 posts in the thread!
A great hug screencap would be the end of the episode where Binks tells Kendall she's pregnant. It's not technically a hug, but it's close enough.
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