PunkyMouse
Mar 2, 2004 @ 1:11 pm
Hey, Binky wants to call her baby Punky!! What a great idea!!!
Kelsey
Mar 2, 2004 @ 1:43 pm
I'd be happy to post the Emmy nominations as they are announced on Thursday. There is no doubt in my mind that Eden will get a nomination and I really hope that Alicia gets one as well; they have both been outstanding each and every day.
kariyaki
Mar 2, 2004 @ 1:59 pm
Oh dear God,
look what I found. *drooooooool*
Black Knight
Mar 2, 2004 @ 2:00 pm
Oooo, Bianca's got game. Very slick, making sure that she'll be getting a house that Lena likes (I'm sure the last thing she wants is to have to move AGAIN after she and Lena officially reunite--three moves in eight months is enough) while avoiding an awkward situation of them looking at houses together when they're not ready to live together yet. That said, Bianca? Lena didn't find a house so fast. She's had this researched for months, divided by type of domicile and available properties ranked in order, and was just waiting to find out whether you preferred a house, a condo, or an apartment. One quick phone call to make sure the #1 house was still available and that nothing better had come up on the market, and bingo, "I've found a house." Snerk. And Bianca hands Lena loads of money and power--this is indeed a great day for the HPF.
In light of the recent discussion about Lena and children, I did think it was interesting that she wants Bianca to get a live-in nanny. It's in keeping with her not truly being interested in kids of her own and having to make adjustments to her preferred lifestyle. (Nothing wrong with that--I don't want kids either. Lena, come over here. I know I don't have doe eyes or the Rack-o-SORAS, but...) I know she was thinking that Bianca would be working full-time, but even that wouldn't require a live-in nanny--Bianca would want to spend time with the kid in the evenings when she got home, then. (Smart of Lena to backtrack to "part-time help" before the alarm bells really went off.) I'm kinda disappointed Bianca said no to the idea of a nanny, because I really wanted to see what kind of nanny Lena would've hired. Snerk. Any woman under 40 would've been automatically out, and no hot-mama Lena Olin types either. Men out too, probably, Lena's never quite liked Bianca getting male attention. Binks would've ended up with a homely little old lady. Oh well, Bianca can always get a nanny later when she does decide to go back to work.
If Bianca doesn't ask Kendall to move in with her, I'm sure Kendall's just going to move herself in anyway as soon as she finds out Bianca's living alone. Hee. Please, Pervy?
Props to Kendall for bringing up the Bianca-shaped elephant in the room with Erica, when Jack and Opal didn't dare. And La Kane immediately retaliates with more mindfucking of Kendall. Poor Kendall.
I'm not sure who I think is stupider, Tad or Krystal. It's a tough call right now. And aw, Babe is sweet.
From the previews: Where has Eric Kane been all this time? I'd just assumed he was dead.
ETA: Yum, kariyaki--and unwaxed, too!
Mystic0
Mar 2, 2004 @ 2:15 pm
Hey, Binky wants to call her baby Punky!! What a great idea!!!
Hee, I liked Puxatawney (sp?). That made me laugh.
Lena didn't find a house so fast. She's had this researched for months,
Bwah! So very true. I love me some Dorky!Lena. She was cute gushing about the house. Her insistence that the house was perfect cracked me up. Homegirl was about two seconds away from bustin' out a power point presentation to back up her point. Maggie was a little shit, unsurprisingly. Her trying to undercut Lena's points just made my ass ache. Shut up, midget. Bianca has every reason to get away from you, you little freak. Listening to you whine about Bianca not cluing you into plans that 1) have nothing to do with you, 2) should have been obvious since anyone with a brain knew Bianca would need more room for a baby, 3)
You are the wee twit that continually decided to leave town every other week without telling Bianca anything and so have absolutely no room to talk. Just shut it, loser.
Dude, Mary was all kinds of wrong. Babe won my love forever for tearing into her. I can't believe Adam just sat there and listened to Mary spew that shit. Sucks to be me, since my Anna Stuart love prevents me from wanting Mary dead. I'd settle for maimed, though. Bitch.
No Ryan! Wheeeeeeeeeee!
Black Knight
Mar 2, 2004 @ 2:25 pm
Not to mention that Naggie's lusting after Bianca and Bianca knows it, even though Naggie refuses to own up about it. Of course Bianca doesn't feel comfortable living with her, even in a bigger place. It would be wrong, too, when she's trying to lay the ground for a reunion with Lena--so for a number of reasons, now that Naggie's proved her feelings aren't platonic, they can't live together anymore. Shut up, Nags. When my best friend/housemate surprised me with the news that she had applied to go to Japan for a year and that I'd have to find another place to live (and it was indeed a complete surprise), I didn't freak. I'm not surprised Bianca was planning on waiting until a house had been found before telling Naggie she was moving--there would still be plenty of time in between finding the house and actually moving because of the paperwork, closing escrow, etc. that has to be done.
I didn't even realize it from the PBP, but my god, you're right. Cam Math had a day off!
Anya Karina
Mar 2, 2004 @ 2:38 pm
Okay, just swung by to add a few thoughts:
Of course Lena found a house instantly. She sees right through Naggie. Lena is smart enough to want her Binx away from the fashion disaster stalker.
Enough BAM Fluffing!!! Why can we see Naggie feeding Binx, yet if Lena did the same, it would warant a parental warning?
And three final thoughts...
1- KILL Naggie, now. Please?
2- Move Lena in with Binx in the new Perfect love nest. Pretty Please?
3- Let us know if Olga S is leaving AMC- so I can pack my bags and go with her.
Long live Lianca!
Mystic0
Mar 2, 2004 @ 3:00 pm
Eek, I just realized I forgot to insult Erica. Where is my head at? The woman is evil! Evil! Kendall, stay the hell away from that nutjob! I'm beyond weary of seeing Erica sharpen her claws on Kendall. 'Specially since Kendall was being so uber-sweet today. Really, Kendall's shaped up into an awesome daughter.
Enough BAM Fluffing!!!
I feel ya, man. I take comfort in the fact that I still think the kinda crap we got today is gonna be as close to an actual triangle as we get. TPTB are still leaving plenty of room for Maggie to just wake up and realize she's not in love (gag) with Bianca, she's in love with being a part of something, the idea of a family. Midget has no life of her own and with Bianca extricating herself from being the center of Mag's universe, I can see Mighty Mouse getting confused and panicky. I may be deluded, but I still don't think Mags lusts for Bianca (in a real way) so much as she thinks that if she does lust and love Binks, it's a sure-fire way to keep Binky with her. Maggie is a big old confused mess like she always was, it's just this time she actually has competition (Lena) for Binky's affections and is stepping up her game because she's nuts. I could be wrong, though. Hee.
Mmmmmmmmmm.......shirtless Aiden. *rowr*
Black Knight
Mar 2, 2004 @ 4:54 pm
According to the OLTL board (I haven't seen today's ep yet), a Liz Hendrickson clone is playing a new contract character.
With all the crossovers between AMC/OLTL, couldn't ABC have just moved Naggie over?
KerleyQ
Mar 2, 2004 @ 4:55 pm
I think that Aidan picture melted my PC's hard drive. Whoa!
They made me like Babe again today. Her standing up for Bianca to Mary was really well done. Mary should have figured, after everything that has gone down recently, that she wasn't going to find anything other than disdain in that house for her stance on the Bianca baby shower. Did she think that Adam, the man who tried to incriminate himself in the Cambias killing, and in fact intended to do something to him that night, is going to take her side on this one?
Maggie--isn't it time for you to head up to the attic to wax some skis?
eejm
Mar 2, 2004 @ 4:57 pm
Maggie--isn't it time for you to head up to the attic to wax some skis?
Bah! Perhaps we should start referring to Maggie as Bobby or even Chuck (from Happy Days) in hopes that she becomes such.
Black Knight
Mar 2, 2004 @ 5:08 pm
Bwah, eejm. That reminds me of the days when we were calling Carlos CarLess in the hopes that TIIC were reading this thread and the repetition would work on them subconsciously.
I could see Mary thinking that Adam might side with her--he's a snob, and she may not really have thought about the fact Bianca was Adam's stepdaughter a long time ago--but still, shut up, Mary.
mad_typist
Mar 2, 2004 @ 5:16 pm
That reminds me of the days when we were calling Carlos CarLess in the hopes that TIIC were reading this thread and the repetition would work on them subconsciously.
A tactic that worked, in my opinion. They killed the dude. It was awesome. I even tuned back in just to watch the Happy Event.
I refer to Mags as "Draggie", in honor of her ability to completely drag down the plot of anyone she is attached to. She's like Bianca's arch-villian - where Bianca has the ability to make mediocre plots good by her mere presence, Draggie has the ability to make otherwise interesting plots totally suck simply by her presence.
Mystic0
Mar 2, 2004 @ 5:17 pm
They made me like Babe again today.
[Monica voice] I know! [Mv]
(sniffle) I feel so manipulated. I'm hoping some poor soul starts a 'Babe as Binky's new BFF' campaign. I'll join in. At least Babe has her own life and stuff to do. Sheesh, man.
I forgot to mention my inappropriate laugh of the day.
Erica: Together? You want us to be together?
Kendall (confused blinking): I want us to be together
as a family.
Hee! My pervy filter took that exchange as Kendall rejecting the idea of MoYay. Yeah, I need help. I know that.
Black Knight, I blanked earlier and forgot to word you on the Lianca nanny thing. I'm guessing since Lena's European, that she figured all rich women hire nannies. I'm sure that once Bianca's baby glow wears off, she'll hire one. It's good to see that the Lianca communication issues are still alive and well. They no talk so good. Heh. Of course I'm still giggling at Lena's too cute house finding happiness. Girl loves having a project! Damn Maggie for interrupting the happy. Every time Bianca was getting her house giddiness on, she had to split her time by including Maggie and soothing the imp's ego. I am ecstatic that Bianca's moving out. Maybe Maggie will be so busy sulking that she won't be visiting 24/7. I can hope, right?
Black Knight
Mar 2, 2004 @ 5:58 pm
I'd be down with Babe as Bianca's new BF--she may be a stray, but she doesn't seem clingy. Like you said, she has a life of her own. The last thing Bianca needs is another clingy person. As it is, she's already got Lena and Naggie catfighting for position while Kendall and Erica are off caterwauling about how Bianca doesn't need them anymore.
I'm guessing since Lena's European, that she figured all rich women hire nannies. I'm sure that once Bianca's baby glow wears off, she'll hire one.
Yeah, I thought Lena's European background probably contributed. (It's a shame they trashed her original backstory with the distant ubermodel mother and the Auntie Rula that spent much more time with her.) Lena's probably very familiar with the type of rich family that does fulltime nannies and, later, boarding school. I agree that Bianca will hire some help eventually (if Kendall doesn't insist on being the nanny herself, heh), but hopefully Lena has the sense to never bring up boarding school, ever.
Maybe Maggie will be so busy sulking that she won't be visiting 24/7. I can hope, right?
Didn't Lena mention a basement in the Dream Home? Maybe she can wall Naggie up in it.
CKD
Mar 2, 2004 @ 6:29 pm
I may be deluded, but I still don't think Mags lusts for Bianca (in a real way) so much as she thinks that if she does lust and love Binks, it's a sure-fire way to keep Binky with her. Maggie is a big old confused mess like she always was, it's just this time she actually has competition (Lena) for Binky's affections and is stepping up her game because she's nuts. I could be wrong, though. Hee.
I think you're right on target and I'm not saying that because I'm a Lianca fan. If anything, being a Lianca fan makes me especially aware of any subtextual/overt moves into that zone and I still don't see it. I
do see Maggie's questions but, like you, I think it has a hell of a lot more to do with wanting to be part of something than with real romantic feelings. We can talk ourselves into anything and Maggie is doing a very good job of that.
The nanny thing was hysterical: I, too, chalk it up to Lena's European ways: even though she's clearly angling for something, her assumption was genuine and not goal-driven. At least, I don't think it was. If it was, then kudos for the great "but what about Cambias Industries?" recovery.
Erica...hee...
“You and Bianca have done very well all by yourselves. You bonded together, you took on the world together. [...] You’ve achieved your aim with Bianca.” KINKS! We all see it, why fight it?
Edited because 'x' and 's' are not the same letter.
Mystic0
Mar 2, 2004 @ 6:47 pm
I'd be down with Babe as Bianca's new BF--she may be a stray, but she doesn't seem clingy.
Hee! We're soooooooo easy.
Didn't Lena mention a basement in the Dream Home? Maybe she can wall Naggie up in it.
Hey, good idea! Let's hope Lena does just that.
even though she's clearly angling for something
Do you have any idea what Lena was angling for? I had a hard time reading Lena a bit today. I got that she was ecstatic about the house and that Maggie got on her nerves (duh!), but it did seem like there was more to her expectation of Binks getting a nanny. Or maybe not? Maybe Lena's undefinable expectation wasn't baby related at all but she just assumed Bianca would jump back into work? It was confusing, but there seemed to be something going on in Lena's head today, other than its usual schmoopyness. Did you notice that or am I tripping like Jenny on shrooms?
Black Knight
Mar 2, 2004 @ 6:58 pm
I, too, chalk it up to Lena's European ways: even though she's clearly angling for something, her assumption was genuine and not goal-driven.
I agree the assumption was genuine and not goal-driven exactly, it's just also indicative of her thinking where children are concerned and how she envisions their shared life. Lena mentioned during the conversation that Bianca had told her a few things to look for in a house, and obviously a room for a fulltime nanny was not included on that list, but Lena still picked a house that would have that space and labeled it in her mind as such. Lena may well have thought Bianca was simply taking a room for an au pair as understood--no one ever says "Be sure to look for a house that's got a kitchen!" either--but it was a bit of a silly assumption to make. She could have said "There's an extra room that could be used as a guest room or library or maybe for a nanny if you decide to hire one," for instance, but no, it was the au pair's room. (I wonder if she even asked the realtor, "Is this the au pair's room?" Hee.) I could have told her that Bianca will never be down for a fulltime nanny--but anyway, it was smart of her to backtrack and claim she was thinking about "part-time help", which Bianca will likely do down the road anyway.
On Bianca's side, I think she's maybe a bit sensitive because of her age and she doesn't want it thought that she's got some kind of escape hatch planned where she can foist the kid off on someone else just because she's rich and can afford a battalion of nannies. It's kind of interesting watching the clash of American and European ideas.
At this point, I've quit caring about whether Maggie feels genuine love and desire or if it's just her need to plaster herself all over someone. Not that I ever cared exactly, mind you, but at this point it's pretty clear that
whatever's going on with Naggie, it doesn't really matter as far as Bianca goes. Lena's been written as the perfect girlfriend, Bianca's been written as entirely in love with Lena (and Kendall), so there is no true triangle here and no sign that one is coming. If Naggie was supposed to be a truly viable rootable option, she wouldn't be written quite so shrewish, and Lena wouldn't be written quite so Perfect GF, so that we'd have the valid question of whether Bianca's focusing her romantic interest on the wrong woman. So Naggie's motivations don't really matter, since either way she's still amusing me by wearing horrible outfits, making jealous stinkfaces, and giving Lena a scratching post to sharpen her claws on.
CKD
Mar 2, 2004 @ 6:59 pm
Lena was hard to read today and I think her preoccupation lead directly to asking Bianca to be honest about Maggie.
The angling thing - well, I think it's part assumption that, trial over, Bianca will be living as she did before and part desire to know whether anyone will move in with her. At the end, she even suggested that Bianca ought to consider asking Maggie to move in which was either one more fishing expedition to make sure Maggie won't be in the house or more self-sacrificing, understanding ex-girlfriend hoping for more kind of thing.
Lena certainly seems less and less hopeful as days go by, excitement over "the perfect house" notwithstandng. She seems to understand that Bianca relies on her for reasons that are practical rather than affectionate: her reaction to Bianca's "and I have you" was...I don't know...kind of resigned, maybe.
Mystic0
Mar 2, 2004 @ 7:14 pm
So Naggie's motivations don't really matter, since either way she's still amusing me by wearing horrible outfits, making jealous stinkfaces, and giving Lena a scratching post to sharpen her claws on.
Bwah! I agree that this is not a real triangle. I honestly think TPTB are just screwing around. I think the only way they will honestly pursue it is if Olga doesn't re-sign. They are taking great pains to make Lena look good and taking none for the Magster.
She seems to understand that Bianca relies on her for reasons that are practical rather than affectionate: her reaction to Bianca's "and I have you" was...I don't know...kind of resigned, maybe.
I don't agree about the practical/affectionate part, that is just Lianca fan misery talking. ;) (You know I love you.) Lianca got their flirt on at the hospital just a few PV days ago. The affection is still there on BOTH their parts. I do agree that Lena is getting resigned but only to the fact that their lives aren't going to flash back to how they were. They'll never have that carefree, just them, honeymoon phase again. Too much shit has happened for that and there's the baby on the way. They can (and I think do) still have a lot of great stuff ahead of them and between them, it just won't be the same as it was. Lena is pretty happy right now every time we see her. I think she'd like to instantly rekindle everything, if it were possible, but it's not. And I
want her to realize that. I wouldn't want Lianca to get officially back together with that crippling expectation that nothing is changed and they can just pick up where they left off. Am I making any sense?
Black Knight
Mar 2, 2004 @ 7:29 pm
Hmmm, I get the opposite impression,
CKD, but then that's because I don't think Bianca asked Lena to look for a house for practical reasons--well, unless you count the practicality of recognizing that she better get a house that Lena likes now because otherwise she'll have to move
again later. Bianca could just as easily have had Marian show her the best house--Bianca's not that picky and money isn't an issue. Lena knows the house is for them. But Bianca's also an eight-months-pregnant rape victim, so the house is for them, eventually. Lena's known since the conversation they had about being in limbo back at Stuart's house that Bianca's time frame is really once she gives birth.
Lianca got their flirt on at the hospital just a few PV days ago.
Oh yeah, forgot about that--and Bianca made it very clear that she was thinking romance--she said it. Lena knows Binks is almost ready.
CKD
Mar 2, 2004 @ 7:40 pm
I don't agree about the practical/affectionate part, that is just Lianca fan misery talking. ;) (You know I love you.)
Bwah! I'm really not feeling that way, you know. Maybe I should have said she seemed disappointed as opposed to resigned - though I think she is resigned to the reality that, right now, this is all she's going to get, which ties in with...
I think she'd like to instantly rekindle everything, if it were possible, but it's not. And I want her to realize that. I wouldn't want Lianca to get officially back together with that crippling expectation that nothing is changed and they can just pick up where they left off. Am I making any sense?
You are and I agree with you: I don't want them to get back together, either, and sometimes not at all!
Hmmm, I get the opposite impression, CKD
Gasp!
BK, Formalities again? Tsk tsk.
ETA: Out of curiosity...how many of you watch
The L Word? (I do.)
Mystic0
Mar 2, 2004 @ 7:53 pm
I'm really not feeling that way, you know.
Why are you being so Erica? [UncleDaddyJack voice] Tell me how you
feel! How can we work this out if you won't
talk about it![/UDJv]
I don't want them to get back together, either, and sometimes not at all!
Why? They are so
cute! I want my Lianca and my Kinks. That's why AMC is amusing. It's so gay (when it's not supposed to be), so incestuous, and so very wrong. Hee!
Aut235
Mar 2, 2004 @ 8:11 pm
Awww...the power of Kinks. Bianca walks in at the end and with a look she and Kendall have an entire conversation without saying a word.
I want to smack Erica. Boo-fucking-hoo. So what, you got left out of all the brainstorming sessions between your daughters. Too damn bad. Be an adult and get over it.
I can't stand Naggie. WTF was she wearing? I don't even know why I am still questioning her fashion choices but that was hideous, and the hair was distracting. If you're going to wear your hair out of your face just put the whole thing in ponytail and call it a day.
I liked Babe today too. I probably would like her more if they didn't make her change personalities depending on what scenes she's in.
Adam and Mary still continue to amuse me.
Tad and Krystal bore me.
SkiffyPup
Mar 2, 2004 @ 8:14 pm
Kinkianca? Or KLinks.That's where it's at, baby.
I think Lena SO does not want Naggie to move in. She's had it up to the proverbial here with her ... with a murder accusation on top. And now they not only don't get along, ... well, you know. Anyhoo- The au pair thing could've been Lena's subtlely management way of informing Maggie that Bianca asked her to shop for a house and it was made clear that the possibility of Nags moving too was either not considered or shot down by Binks from the git go. If I were Naggie (gasp) that's what I would conclude. That's why she was so hurt. Notice Lena did not bring up even the off chance that Naggie would be moving into the house Lena picked out until Naggie left and she got the "sad sad" from Bianca. Only then did she entertain the thought- because she would put up with anything that makes Bianca happy. Anything! Schmoop. Pushover Softie of Lahv.
CKD
Mar 2, 2004 @ 8:25 pm
Why are you being so Erica? [UncleDaddyJack voice] Tell me how you feel! How can we work this out if you won't talk about it![/UDJv]
Bwah ha ha! I don't feel the Lianca disappointment because I 'ship only to a point. Well, unless it's Kinks.
Of course I want Lianca! But I also like not having an ulcer and I revel in my ability to say "I don't need them together" without choking: it's a test! And I pass!
SkiffyPup
Mar 2, 2004 @ 10:02 pm
Of course I want Lianca! But I also like not having an ulcer and I revel in my ability to say "I don't need them together" without choking: it's a test! And I pass!
CK- You actually suggested a chemistry test for Babe and Bianca in your recap. Yeah, you pass. I'm all for it. I pass too. ( Told ya' Alexis was aok, y'all. )
CKD
Mar 2, 2004 @ 10:17 pm
From JC5 at TSN on the baby switch:
There is an AMC insider at coffeerooms who answered the question "BTW are you sure Bianca is not going to be involved in this babyswitch?"
involves Babe and OLTL's Paul and Kelly. Now it also involves Bianca, but NOT in the way you think. Bianca is not absolutely crucial to this plot line, but she'll be involved, and will be involved in one of the earlier plot points of the story. But it does NOT involve her baby. AND, the show KNOWS that viewers would NOT buy a baby switch between Bianca, who conceived in July, and Babe, who conceived in October.
Now, if Babe and Bianca did conceive at the same time, and the show was thinking of a B.S. involving them (which they are not), the story would instantly be batted down by ABC execs. Why? Eden Riegel's contract is up this summer. ABC does not want to be caught with their pants down -- i.e. Bianca being involved in this huge baby switch story and then Eden leaving right in the middle of it. And the show is not planning to recast Bianca if Eden chooses to leave. My guess -- Eden will renew with the show, but the network hasn't even begun formal negotiations at this point.
ETA: At this end of the month, you should see how Bianca fits into the Babe/pregnancy equation. She is involved, there is a twist, but as I said, not like you think (and Bianca's involvement in Babe's story is not what the majority of her upcoming story is going to be about, as we head into May Sweeps...)
So. Snoozefest no matter how it plays out? Yeah, I thought so.
Mysticks Muse
Mar 2, 2004 @ 10:56 pm
That's nice. Except that TSPTB (The extra letter stands for stupid) already expect us to buy that Babe is as far along as Bianca. If I'm not mistaken, Babe has already said that she's seven/eight/howeverdamnmanymonths pregnant, just like Bianca. Did I imagine that? I think it was while Binks was in the hospital. So, to me that blows that spoiler out of the water. Until otherwise confirmed, I'm going with Black Knight's source.
Edited to Add: JC5 just reports, so I'm not blaming him/her. I just think this is probably how the original story was going to play out, but it's not going to happen anymore. I like the spoilers about Olga's contract being picked up and the rumors of a new writer by summer a whole lot better, so I'll arbitrarily choose to believe them for now.
SkiffyPup
Mar 2, 2004 @ 11:35 pm
For once (Okay, more than once) I hope Black Knight is worng wrong wrong and that Lianca will be on the frontburner as Bianca's main story.
Thanks for the spoilers! Boy, they're all over the place.
CKD
Mar 2, 2004 @ 11:39 pm
More rumor-ish spoilers - posted by JC5 at the SS. Same source as above...and
link.
Writing Change:
There will be a writing change at AMC by summer, I promise you that. McTavish is not long for the world...and new EP Julie Carruthers is looking at new writing teams as we speak. But, come late August, you will NOT see McTavish's name in the credits. A new head writer will have their material on the air by that point...
Everyone was surprised about McTavish coming back in the first place right!? Well, with that actually happening...no one should be surprised when everyone bids her adieu later this spring.
Frons re-hired McTavish because of her storyline projection that she submitted, Bianca's rape. Well that storyline is done with and Julie Carruthers wants to take the show elsewhere...so, yes, believe me, there will be a writing change announced.
Actors on the bubble:
Juan Pablo -- OUT!
Mia -- Amelia Heinle's contract expires in June. AMC will not renew it. There's no story for her!
Liza's story is about to heat up in a big way. She's not going anywhere. Julie Carruthers loves her -- they worked together on Santa Barbara.
Olga Sosnovska will be picked up, I predict.
Misc:
I wouldn't be surprised to see Liza and David together
AMC is going to be doing a Greenlee/Bobby Warner storyline. (TPTB think that Budig has lots of chemistry with Christian Campbell, who I have to admit is quite the excellent actor)
Kendall and Ryan are loved by McTavish...
I mean, McTavish created both Kendall and Ryan. She loves them! But what she is doing with Greenlee and Ryan is her typical style...she loves to break couples apart, give them a huge problem, and see them fight their way back to each other. Ryan and Kendall are the intended couple by TPTB...
One thing you gotta learn about McTavish is she always leads you on...does she like Greenlee and Ryan? No. But she likes to keep the Kendall and Ryan fans frustrated and hoping and praying...It's just like Leo and Laura from a few years back. Did the show ever intend for you to root for them?! No. But they were together for six long months, and when it was finally over...it was splendid.I don't know how reliable this cofferoom person is, but I've heard the same thing about
McT's non-future with AMC from a reliable someone else, so there is hope.
ETA:
Mysticks Muse, I love and giggle at the way you approach spoilers! (And I agree with the LotR stuff you posted at the AGR today.) That was you, right? I'm positive it was. Unless it wasn't, in which case I was never positive in the first place.
ETA 2: EWWW!
she's also predicting Maggie will be revealed as bisexual shortly. Mysticks Muse, now I love the way you deal with spoilers even more: I choose to ignore that one!
snarkyb
Mar 3, 2004 @ 12:13 am
Did anyone else catch Babe's reference to getting baby shower supplies at Alicia's Party Shop? I think she even pronounced it the same way that Alicia M. pronounces her first name. I was wondering if it was an homage to her, or a backhanded reference to Kinks.
Mystic0
Mar 3, 2004 @ 12:29 am
Did anyone else catch Babe's reference to getting baby shower supplies at Alicia's Party Shop?
Yes! Thank you, man. I was pretty sure I imagined that. Hee, Alicia's party shop. *rowr* I'm thinking it was an homage, since I've known a million Alicia's and none of them have ever pronounced their name like Minshew does.
About spoilers, have y'all noticed that most are just wrong lately about the wackiest things? Like
Kendall wrecking her car at David's or Myrtle showing up with Opal at Erica's. And these are official spoilers from mags or the daily guides. Something's going on, either re-shoots or some other craziness.
I don't feel the Lianca disappointment because I 'ship only to a point.
Oh, I get it now. Good for you, man. Like I told you long ago, I refuse to 100% invest myself in any love interest of Bianca's. That way lies madness. I do love Lianca though. They test my resolve. It's a sweet torture if you have other things to focus on. (cough*Kinks!*cough)
kariyaki
Mar 3, 2004 @ 1:53 am
Yum, kariyaki--and unwaxed, too!
Thus the basis of that link's appeal. I hate that they make Aiden wax. Sure, a Beastmund-like forestation is a bit nasty but damn, let him have a little bit of it. I like a guy with some texture.
Out of curiosity...how many of you watch The L Word? (I do.)
I saw one episode, but only because I used to watch
Young Americans and wanted to see what Katherine Moennig was up to.
I'm thinking it was an homage, since I've known a million Alicia's and none of them have ever pronounced their name like Minshew does.
Same here, except I've known two. Alicia and my aunt pronounce their names that way but no one else ever seems to.
Solvay
Mar 3, 2004 @ 3:46 am
[deep sigh] No Ryan today. How nice was that? [/deep sigh]
The Lianca scenes today were open to lots of interpretation. If nothing else they were consistent on the theme of Lena and Bianca's lack of effective communication. Lena always seems like she's on a mental fishing expedition trying to discern Bianca's thinking. I wonder what housing characteristics Binks told Lena to look for. Did she say a 2 bedroom house? And did Lena then think one bedroom for Bianca and the baby, and one bedroom for the au pair? Did Binks say "a 2 bedroom house" and think "if I limit it to just 2 bedrooms, then Maggie can't move in because one bedroom is for me and Lena and one bedroom is for the baby"? Cause really...assuming Binks wants to live there more than a short while the kid is going to need a room of his/her own. That leaves one bedroom. The most likely occupants of a bedroom are one person alone or a person and their significant other. So at this point Lena is the only other likely adult occupant if Binks isn't going to live with just the baby.
The "oh this is so unrealistic" side of me spent the episode thinking "who buys a 2 bedroom house if they can afford more"? How many billionaires buy a 2 bedroom house? How many billionaires buy a house in the burbs / small city on a block with lots of kids? Doesn't she realize this kid will be a kidnapping target? Is the second bedroom for the bodyguard? Then I remembered it's just a TV show written by a particularly untalented misogynistic hack and I went back to thinking "no Ryan today" (deep sigh).
Mysticks Muse
Mar 3, 2004 @ 8:49 am
That was you, right?.
Yeah, it was me
CK. I'm a bigger LOTR fan than just about anything else, and can't let PJ and company be criticized, especially after New Line risked the entire company on these movies.
Now, back to our show.
I really am starting to have doubts about them continuing this whole triangle, unless they really do intend to turn Maggie evil. Otherwise, why make Maggie such a shrew? And, it would fit with McTavish's agenda. She's raped the lesbian, had the lesbian commit murder. An outright evil lesbian has to be next.
Edited to add: You all must absolutely read this. It brightened my morning.
Media Domain Maggie Song
CKD
Mar 3, 2004 @ 9:30 am
Bwah! The Maggie Song is comedy platinum: thank god for funny people.
dirksunboy
Mar 3, 2004 @ 10:13 am
Wow what great spoilers! Oh, if only they are true....
Okay, to be on the safe side, I'm spoiler-izing all of this:
[QUOTE]AMC is going to be doing a Greenlee/Bobby Warner storyline. (TPTB think that Budig has lots of chemistry with Christian Campbell, who I have to admit is quite the excellent actor)[/QUOTE]
WORD This could be interesting...Greenlee getting involved in the whole Maria/ED/Anita/Bobby/Sammy stuff could be good. My ONLY problem is that Greenlee and Anita look so much alike....But anything that keeps Greenlee away from Ryan is A.O.K.
David and Liza??? EXCELLENT.
Best of all??? BYE BYE McTRASH!!!
Mysticks Muse
Mar 3, 2004 @ 12:22 pm
BlackKnight. I don't suppose you could badger your source about a little info on Olga's contract could you?
Spoilers are all over the place lately. Lots of the previously reliable spoilers have been wrong. Remember the "Bianca is jealous of Maggie/Jamie" spoiler. There have been several like that. Hopefully this whole baby switch will turn out to be a bad spoiler, or at least a storyline that changed because of the audience being so against it.
SFHagood
Mar 3, 2004 @ 2:03 pm
Eeeee! I like those spoilers, yes I do! I'm going to think about Liza and David. I think I can get behind that, because I can still have Looke in my imagination. Except Bi-Naggie? I just don't see it. I get no "I lust for women" vibes from her at all.
Damn it. I'm back to liking Babe. And Krystal's little plan actually made sense, if you take the whole its a big major lie/coverup out of the issue. What the heck is going on? I could deal with a Babe and Bianca BFF SL. They can do mommy and me classes together.
I enjoyed the little Alicia shout out yesterday.
And Mary, while still entertaining, needs to shut it. She obviously didn't get the St. Binky memo. Also in the category of needing to shut it? Erica. Grow up already.
CKD
Mar 3, 2004 @ 2:16 pm
Today's episode was just great, GREAT! Egypt is always a nice touch: thank you, Erica, for taking us all there.
ETA: did the sarcasm transfer onto the board? 'Cause it was there, I swear.
Dabney
Mar 3, 2004 @ 2:42 pm
CKD Anyone thanking Erica for anything is enough to convey sarcasm. While I agree Susan has been doing a fabulous job lately, Erica is not doing a lot of positive stuff right now. She needs to stop cutting Kendall off at the knees, and realize that Bianca's pregnancy should not be all about her (even though we all know that it is, because the rape story is a love story between the three Kane women. Can you feel the love?)
CKD
Mar 3, 2004 @ 3:18 pm
There's a sort of report at the SS from a fan who hung out with Olga on set today who says that Olga noticed her scenes had been cut. Gee, really? From what, 5 words to 2? Good god.
Black Knight
Mar 3, 2004 @ 3:51 pm
Well, I just got back from a half-day company-sponsored workshop explaining to all of us trapped employees a one-word concept that could be adequately explained in one sentence, or four or five sentences if one wanted to get really wordy. I'm tired and crabby, behind on my work, missed AMC, and apparently ezboard is having a problem, so I can't read the PBP.
Bright side: The concept was brainstorming. It was the word used most often in the workshop. Were it not for that, I'd probably have killed myself with one of the crappy souvenir pens provided.
Mystic0
Mar 3, 2004 @ 4:02 pm
The concept was brainstorming. It was the word used most often in the workshop. Were it not for that, I'd probably have killed myself with one of the crappy souvenir pens provided.
Death by pen? Ouch, man. Will it make you feel better to know we had Kinks/Erica scenes? Kinks didn't get their lust on or anything, but it was hella amusing to see them act as a unit. A Kinks unit. Heh. It was all 'we' this and 'we' that, and a hug! Oddly, it looks like Binky's taken to grabbing Kendall like she does Lena when goin' for a hug. Just grab 'em, Binks! Heh. Erica was still a loon but Kinks had her good and cornered for a minute before Mary interrupted. (grumble) Dude, when you watch tonight, keep your eye on Alicia while Mary is yakking at Binks and Erica. Hilarious!
Black Knight
Mar 3, 2004 @ 4:15 pm
Death by pen? Ouch, man.
Yes, the workshop was that bad. Thank goodness for inappropriate thoughts of Kinks
brainstorming. See, shipping Kinks is actually good for one's sanity!
Thanks for the rundown on some of the good bits. I bet Erica
loved all the "we" this and "we" that from Kinks.
Forgot to mention from yesterday: Mary really has no reason to think of Bianca as sweet, and I appreciated Anna Stuart's slightly ironic delivery when she said that word yesterday. PissedOff!Bianca tried to attack her at Jerica's aborted wedding and had to be physically restrained by several people. Hee. That said, Mary was of course a bitch and I loved the smackdown Babe delivered. Alexa did really well with the outrage, teary angry eyes, and Babe was even articulate for a moment, when she said she wanted everyone in the house to treat Bianca "with the utmost of love and respect." Of course, she then regressed with, "And I'm talking everybody!" but it was coupled with a great look at Adam. Alexa's growing as an actress.
CKD
Mar 3, 2004 @ 4:22 pm
Mara in SOD chat in re Olga:
<soapoperamod> Olga has been cast in a BBC series that films in London. She will be speaking out about this in her own words in an upcoming issue of SOAP OPERA DIGEST, but let me say this:
<soapoperamod> ALL MY CHILDREN would NEVER let Olga go of their own volition.
<soapoperamod> That is something that both the show and Olga want fans to know; that it is her decision and she is grateful to AMC for supporting it, but they did not initiate it.
<soapoperamod> It's terribly sad for Lianca fans, yes, and she has a message for Lianca fans that you can read about.
<soapoperamod> I don't know if they are trying to have Olga remain on recurring, nor do I know when she is leaving.
<soapoperamod> Eden is not leaving. It is really too soon to even begin speculating about what is next for Bianca in terms of romance because as I've said, Olga's exit has not been scripted yet.
There you have it.
ETA: <soapoperamod> I want to say something ABOUT Olga. This is NOT from Olga's lips.
<soapoperamod> But I have interviewed Olga and met Olga and my sense of Olga was always that she loves AMC and loves being on AMC but that staying on AMC for the rest of her career was not something she intended.
seneca724
Mar 3, 2004 @ 4:41 pm
Thanks for the info CK.
I think the writing has been on the wall for sometime, and my only hope is they don't let the Lena character fade away ala Boyd or Joni. But McTavish has never been able to do the character or pairing justice, so I'm not holding my breath.
Black Knight
Mar 3, 2004 @ 4:48 pm
Well, it ties in with her age and with the fact that she did not sign a long-term contract last spring when it was offered. At her age in her career, it's probably the right decision for her, much as I'm horribly disappointed by it. Olga has what it takes to be a star, especially in England where her accent doesn't pigeonhole her as much as it would here.
Her only signing a short-term contract last spring was always dicey: Soaps don't like writing for actors who are on short-term contracts by the actor's own choice--they know it's a good possibility the actor will leave. ABC got burned very badly the last time they made an exception, with GH's Vanessa Marcil. When Jonathan Bennett refused to sign a four-year deal, AMC released him and recast the character.
I do remember that some fans who were at a meal with Olga just before she flew to England to audition for her new show said that Olga said that she thought she might be able to do both shows, so we'll see. Her husband may be planning on continuing to work in NY. It was because of him that they left England and came here; her career in England was doing just fine, it was he who thought that he would have more success in America.
CKD
Mar 3, 2004 @ 4:53 pm
Yeah, it does make sense. It sucks, but - I'm happy for her.
And the show she'll be on will certainly kick ass, so kudos to her: I wish her the very best.
Edited because I'm a horrible tease and I must be stopped.