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regis
Her face when Bianca corrected her was priceless.


Oh yeah, and Bianca's face when she corrected her was priceless too! Just a hint of uncertainty there in her eyes as she did it, probably knowing how Lena wouldn't want to be wrong, but at the same time feeling confident enough to point it out.
Black Knight
That whole bit was hysterical. At first Bianca just assumed Lena had misspoken and casually said "Itsy Bitsy Spider" without really thinking about it...then Lena got that look on her face and was all "no no no"...and then Bianca looked at her for just a second, the uncertainty you mentioned, regis, before insisting again on "Itsy Bitsy Spider." Heh. (And of course, the funniest thing of all is that Naggie throws her two cents in, only neither Bianca nor Lena pay the slightest bit of attention. They know she's useless. Even though she was backing Binks up. Heh. With someone else, Bianca would've been all, "See, she says the same!")

Poor Lena. You know that after she left the hospital she rushed home to do research on how often Itsy Bitsy Spider appears vs. Eensy Weensy Spider. She's probably got a spreadsheet with graphs about it. She's so cute.
2deadcows
[Jeremy] was killed by Gwynneth Alden during Loving's serial killer story when he was encased in quick-dry (instant-dry) plaster while in his studio.

So you’re saying there’s a chance. Heh. Thanks for the info, barkley. I am a former “Loving” watcher, but sure as hell missed that little plot twist (I’d prefer to think something like that wouldn’t just leak out of the noggin -- no matter how young I may have been at the time).

Still playing AMC catchup here –- Greens and Kendall just rumbled at Fusion and IDon'tUnderstand(yeesh)!Erica just fell off of the wagon. Looking forward to more Subtle Lucci and, strangely, Creepy!Erica. Wow, did hell freeze over? I think it did. And what does this development mean for the sled riders? How much of the Kinks enjoyment is intertwined with its illicitness and imminent punishment?
SkiffyPup
Okay, codicil experts:
If Bianca and everyone thinks her baby is dead, does the Cambias fortune revert to Ryan? Or is it ... if the baby takes one breath and then dies... it's Bianca's cash ... but what if it's stillborn? I know they'll have to unwind the whole thing once the stolen baby plot is revealed during, oh ... Nevember sweeps, and make a mess if it reverts to Ryan.

2dead ... We are all about the Pervy. It's fun to watch how they are becoming more textual and daring, both the writers and actors, with the Kinks. They dare! That's so unbelievable that it cannot be anything but the best sort of fun there is to be had from a soap. It is the illicitness, in other words. Just say no to punishment!
kariyaki
Wow, did hell freeze over? I think it did. And what does this development mean for the sled riders?

It'll make the sled a lot more fun now that we all have something to ride on (and yes, that's meant to be interpreted as a double entendre; go nuts).
Black Knight
Well, as has been mentioned before, in real life Alex's will would have been set up differently and with very careful rules for all manner of situations, but given that this is a soap...

I think we can expect to hear that if the baby dies after birth, the estate passes to Bianca as the next of kin. Now if everyone thinks the baby is stillborn, then the estate really should revert to Ryan. However, I'm not sure that AMC really wants to carry on with the whole Cambias estate issue. At this point, Bianca's handed Enchantment off to Erica who's handed it off to Kendall...Bianca will no doubt be signing Fusion over to Kendall any day now, not that it really matters if the Eye on Soaps talk that Fusion is just going to disappear into the background turns out to be true. JR is running Chandler but doesn't seem to show any interest in getting actual ownership of it. Adam hasn't mentioned getting his company back in a while. Cambias Industries has been given barely a mention. In short, even if the baby was stillborn, I could see Ryan just letting Bianca keep the estate still, because y'know, he's perfect and all, and it'd be pretty damn crummy for him to broach the matter of the estate while she's mourning, not that she really gives a shit about the estate in the first place and will care even less now.

'Course, I'm biased in my spec because I'm just tired of it all--the estate's been passed around several times already, and Bianca's just going to end up getting it back when she gets her girl back, so...just leave it alone.


I whined some more to my source today, but no luck. No fears, I'll keep whining until I get some details on the Bianca portion of the baby switch.
DrCher
If BabyCambias dies, and the holdings revert back to Ryan, that probably means it's going to be Greenlee vs. Kendall, fighting for whatever company. Ugh. Zzzzzzzzzzzz.


I don't want Bianca to lose her baby. She's been through enough.
SkiffyPup
From SOW - Erica has a meltdown
Bombshell after bombshell drive Pine Valley's First Lady to the verge of a breakdown on All My Children.

"Erica is struggling," states head writer Megan McTavish. "She loves both her daughters and is trying to adjust to the fact that Bianca is carrying her rapist's baby, but this could take her to the breaking point. Erica is spinning out of control, and she is desperately trying not to break."

Erica's father, Eric, pushes all the wrong buttons this week when she calls him. "She's never totally dealt with her own rape (by Richard Fields) at 14 years old or her father's abandonment," points out McTavish. "Both traumas scarred he for life, and she blames her father for what happened to her (Eric and Richard were friends). Right now, she is on the cusp, because she can't separate her own rape experience from her daughter's rape." ...


This is so Megan! (And not in any good way. Rapity rape and rape and rapetalk and rapebabies and triangles and ... Fuck you.)

... McTavish promises this is the first of many emotional setbacks for La Kane. "She's trying to behave in a gracious way, and yet everybody around her who loves her, including her own two daughters, is urging her to break[down]," says the scribe. "They want her to scream and yell at them, because they're afraid of what's happening inside. Now that Erica has reached for that brandy, it's going to complicate things."

At Bianca's baby shower, Erica starts guzzling champagne, and her facade finally begins to crack. "All of this becomes a huge danger signal for Erica, given her past addiction to prescription drugs," offers McTavish. "Alcohol is not her drug of choice or her problem, yet we can safely say that Erica is self-medicating already - and it's very dangerous."


This spoiler I like.
Luciaphile
Regarding the spoilers about a baby switch plot designed to get crossover viewers for OLTL. They're going to have to give me a hell of a better reason to watch OLTL than that dork playing Paul, the Ho, JR, and his hair. Really, really not interested, thank you very much.
SkiffyPup
Luciaphile- Paul has been recast. That idiot is fired and Heather Tom's IRL brother is taking the role.
SiameseCatLady
Just when I didn't think it would be possible to loathe McTrash any more than I already do, we get the baby switch spoiler. Definitely McTrash sucks and Frons blows and vice versa.
silentbob
Page 2 is bad ... mmmmmmkay?

the Anita/James chemistry experiment

Is that where the writers were going yesterday? I don't think this is gonna happen, since Anita is married to his cousin (though not biological, given that Tad isn't "really" Joe's son).

I really liked FauxGreasy's poker scene with Brooke the other day. I think I just like any of his interactions with Brooke and Tad. They just seem like such cool parents.

And Kendall/David is all kinds of wrong, for reasons others have stated already, but all kinds of hot. Yowza.
CKD
I can't allow the best thread to fade to page 2! That would be some sort of sin like, say, denying the hotness of Kinks.

Speaking of sins, have we talked about that very intgeresting post by Beth at Son?
(Linkity Link)


Q: Beth, is McTavish primarily responsible or is it a joint demolition effort?


BETH: Yup, it's McTavish. McTavish trumps all...including Carruthers. That's why JDB was let go---bc she had seniority and higher status...and McTavish came along...wowed Frons w/ her ideas, and lo and behold--JDB is canned. McTavish comes first, even where Carruthers is concerned. This is pretty unusual in soaps, where a HW has more power than an EP. Over at Days...this power struggle is what caused the Corday/JER rift years ago. I know for a fact that Carruthers had certain plans for certain characters when she first came aboard that have subsequently been nixed by McTavish, which again..is not typically the case.


Q: Also does the low morale you mentioned in any way tie in to rumors that some actors, possibly a vet or so, may be leaving?


BETH: Yes, in part. It also has to do with those who are still contractually tied to the show, who are antsy to leave due to the clear favoritism that McTavish imparts. It doesn't make for happy actors when they wind up feeling they need to compete with their costars for a few minutes airtime. Don't blame the actors though...this is a situation they got thrown into, and it's the natural progression of things, unfortunately.

One more thing...so mark my words---in the next couple of months...when we see at least 2--possibly 3--actors leave AMC...it will NOT be bc they have been fired or 'let go due to storyline purposes', regardless of the spin AMC will put on it. It is bc these actors have asked to be let out of their contracts for various reasons. When I can say more...I promise I will.


That last bit is very interesting: will it end the lying liars' lies about McT and scripts that are Christmas presents?
TartnotSweet
Paul has been recast.


I'm oddly disappointed to hear this. Yeah, he was one of the worst daytime actors I've seen lately ( the "drunk" scenes were particularly hilarious) but I found him all kinds of pretty( shhh..... don't tell anyone). Maybe I'm just a sucker for guys who can pull off the "sweater over an untucked dress shirt" look.
Black Knight
I'm actually sort of pleased that Paul's being recast. The actor was limited but cute, and I'd prefer not to have that getting in the way of the hatred I will shortly feel for him.

I don't know about what Beth has said. The thing is, the actors that have become the most marginalized, apart from Olga, are playing the characters that never quite caught on and are dead wood. Carlos's screentime was cut and then he was dumped. We know Marc Menard asked for his release, and I wouldn't be surprised if Tomy Dunster is another that's asked to be let out of his contract. Amelia Heinle may also see which way the wind is blowing, now that Aidan's dumped Mia. But none of these are true losses, despite Boyd's prettiness, should be cut, and are probably one step ahead of the axe. But in addition to the obvious people--Alicia, Eden, Susan, Rebecca, and CamMath (and the four women were nearly as heavily featured in the previous regime)--vets like MEK and David Canary have gotten more airtime than previously. There's been complicating circumstances with some of the others, such as Vincent Irizarry, whose planned SL is waiting on network approval. Meanwhile Eva LaRue and John Callahan presented a different kind of problem because they specifically asked not to be given heavy drama to do together, which is a little difficult given that their onscreen characters are married.

In short, I wouldn't be surprised if the backstage bitching is from those who really present no value to the show whatsoever.
CKD
We won't really know until we figure out who the next two - or is it three? - actors leave. Certainly, if Olga were to be one of the next to go and she were to say, as I suspect she might, that she asked to leave because her story sucked and it bored her to tears (as she has stated more than once), then I fear for the tsunami that will hit ABC studios: the White Picket Fence Contingent can be as ferociuos as the Retcon 32 when it comes to Olga, protests to the effect that she should do what makes her happy to the contrary.

Also, I think both Beth and Mara (of editors chat fame) have stated one of the departures will be "a surprising veteran (female)," which leaves out my beloved Myrtle since, judging by all the things I've read, she's been wanting to go for quite a while. Neither Amelia not Teri qualify for "surprising veteran" status, I don't think, but maybe they do.

This backstage stuff, as in all professions, is much more interesting than what we see on TV.

Edited to give Mara her name back.
SkiffyPup
The SOD editor's name is spelled Mara.

I recall that Beth at SON said a while back that the surprising woman who is reported to want to leave is someone who is a contract player, but not a vet of the length of Marcy Walker, and not a newbie either.
That's the way I remember it.

But now they are talking two or three people. I have 5 bucks that says Olga will not leave the show. Just my gut feeling. But I could see VI wanting to go elsewhere. Amelia too.
KerleyQ
I recall that Beth at SON said a while back that the surprising woman who is reported to want to leave is someone who is a contract player, but not a vet of the length of Marcy Walker, and not a newbie either.
That's the way I remember it.


Is it too much to hope that Liz Hendrickson has decided this show is holding her back and is begging for her release??
I fear it being Eden or Rebecca that the above is referring to, though. I honestly can't think of who would fit into that description: Jill Larson?
allergic2love
I fear it being Eden or Rebecca that the above is referring to, though.


I actually really do hope it's Eden. I love the idea of being able to turn on the television at the same time every weekday to see her, but she's so much better than the material they give her. I say give her a nice exit with the possibility of coming back if the whole primetime TV/movies thing doesn't pan out.

Run, Eden, run! Take your Emmy and pump those finely-toned legs!

Edited because it's and its is not the same thing.
SkiffyPup
Is it too much to hope that Liz Hendrickson has decided this show is holding her back and is begging for her release??


[praying] Oh please, Dark Father ... Make it so. [/praying]

I fear it being Eden or Rebecca that the above is referring to, though


Eden? No fucking way, unless she is shopping herself to primetime waaay under the radar. But I just don't see that happening. How could she do that and still do all those live gigs and charity events and promo appeances? Plus, she seems to genuinely be loving her job right now.

Rebecca? I could see her moving on.
Black Knight
I agree Rebecca's very likely to move on once her contract is up, not because of happiness or unhappiness at AMC, but simply because this is a point in her career where she's really starting to get some other opportunities and exposure outside of daytime, and she's at an age where she needs to take advantage of them. She may or may not ask to be let out of her contract; most of the actors who do that are ones who know the show will grant their request because they're close to being axed anyway.

I wouldn't be surprised either if Liz Hendrickson also decides to leave when her contract is up. Justin was supposed to be a love interest for her, and that was deep-sixed. Then a relative of Ryan's was supposed to come to town, and that's been deep-sixed now too. Bianca has been written and acted as being only in love with Lena and Kendall. Not much effort has been expended on Maggie/Jamie and AMC just chemistry-tested him with Anita. In short, none of this is promising for Liz. Naggie can only chase after an uninterested Bianca for so long, and while AMC could spin out a pretty long SL of an evil Naggie causing trouble for Lianca, there's really no room in Bianca's upcoming SL for that.

How could she do that and still do all those live gigs and charity events and promo appeances?

Oh, Eden could still do all that. Actually, her appearances would probably increase, not decrease, because she'd be better known. But she doesn't need to leave right now, and given her age, it'd probably be better if she signed for another three or four years before trying for other opportunities. It'll be interesting to see what Alicia does when her contract comes up, as I'm sure her agent would love her to try for other things. But it's a difficult question because Kendall's such a multi-faceted character and gets tons of fun shit to do. Some characters get boring to play, but Kendall will likely never be one. Alicia is beautiful and talented and can likely get other roles, but will they be as fun and interesting? It really comes down to what Alicia is looking for.
superdiva80
I'm guessing by the lack of comments about the Greenlee/Ryan love connection/psychic whatever that I'm not the only hoping that if I pretend that storyline doesn't exist that it will just go away.
SkiffyPup
Hee. FF. It's the next best thing to actually off the show.
Mysticks Muse
The infamously unreliable Soapboy is reporting that he hears Olga's going to be released/nonrenewed because the network is going to get away from anygay romance. If true, Eden's gone too I'm sure.
Iwantmynameback
I can see Olga leaving due to them putting an end to any gay romances on the show.Especially in light of the Janet/Justin flap and the recent crackdown by the FCC and the big media outlets on the shock jocks. Not to mention the gay marriage 'crisis' that seems to have so many people's nickers in a twist. It's not a good time to be forward-thinking in our culture right now. I cannot, however, see Eden leaving anytime soon. Her SL is just too juicy right now. They can keep her as a gay mom, because raising the baby de-sexualizes her. And even if she did consider leaving, she's more of a Broadway Baby rather than a prime time or feature actress right now anyway.
SkiffyPup
Shits and giggles from the Brokerage:

Eden and Liz (seperate pics) holding an, "I heart my vagina" t-shirt.

This made me giggle and hate Liz less.

Edit: Because BK is right. Toooo gossipy.
CookieOK
I remember seeing a quote from Eden last year somewhere (in response to a question regarding her leaving AMC to return to Harvard), and she said, paraphrasing, she couldn't stand the idea of another actress playing Bianca.
Black Knight
I don't see how raising a child necessarily desexualizes a woman, especially on soaps. There have been plenty of mothers on soaps over the years and rarely does it slow them down. And in Bianca's case, it's controversial to some because even if she isn't in a relationship with another woman, she's still a lesbian raising a child. And therefore promoting the homosexual agenda because all homosexual parents try to convert their kids to homosexuality, and plus as a lesbian single mom, twice over depriving the kid of a father figure because she'll never marry a man...blah blah prejudicecakes.

When was the last time SoapBoy was right about anything? The last time I remember was when he said last spring that Olga was being offered a contract, which was true but which he also said at a time when it was plainly obvious she'd be getting one.

Not you, SkiffyPup, but it's kinda sad that there are some who would like to make it seem like Eden and Olga no longer get along, or something. It's so counterproductive. The Lianca fanbase tearing itself apart isn't going to help them get what they want, and Eden's always been outspoken in wanting to see Lianca and plays no interest in Maggie, even though Liz is basically her best friend.
SkiffyPup
Know what you mean BK ... but it's funny!
TWoP .. not the place for productivity. Tis the place for snark ... and Kinks. Ahhhhhh, Kinks! I hope Kendall and Bianca live together... for us, and for the future Black Knight fic that could acually fit cannon.

PS: I heart my vagina. Hee. That makes me snicker. Yeah, I'm twelve.

I remember seeing a quote from Eden last year somewhere (in response to a question regarding her leaving AMC to return to Harvard), and she said, paraphrasing, she couldn't stand the idea of another actress playing Bianca.


yeah cookie. I think it was SOD. A soapmag of some sort anyway. The interviewer described Eden as white-knuckled grip on the table when the subject came up. It's in a big pile of evidence that all adds up to: No way is she leaving. Girlfriend is in pig heaven and loves her job.
Black Knight
(hugs Skiffy) I adore you, you know that. I may be the sled driver this upcoming week, but I have no doubt you're going to get that job back ASAP.

Yippee over at SS finally got hold of the pic of her and Eden, with Eden pulling up her tank to reveal her abs. (Damn, if she'd just pulled it up a couple of inches more...) So, Mystic0, just for you...she certainly hasn't put on any fat there. Heh. Here's the link--you have to scroll down a bit. Glorious Abs I so want Bianca to wear that outfit on the show, pilot's jacket and all. Eden raids Bianca's wardrobe often enough, so why can't they do the reverse?

I was over at Mediadomain and a poster there was at Brokerage and said that Eden said that the contract negotiations scare her, but she doesn't want to leave. Her agent will try to get her an increase because her current pay structure is almost 4 years old and was signed when she was a newbie teenager (i.e. as soap actors' pay goes, pretty low on the scale), and she's been frontburner and one of the most high-profile actresses on AMC for a while now. But soaps are very busy cost-cutting, so any significant increase is probably unlikely. But Eden doesn't strike me as a greedy girl, so as long as ABC doesn't try to slash her pay 50%, it should be fine.
SkiffyPup
All hail The Dark Father!
I went to vote in the SOD poll today. There is a flash banner ad running at the top of the page for a new Fox network show.

The ad says, " What would you do to stay in Eden forever?"

Lord! BWAH! Hahahahahaha! I just about died.

http://www.soapoperadigest.com/polls/netamc/

Wait for it. "you" and "Eden" are in bold red.
Black Knight
Cannot. Stop. Laughing. Someone really should grab that and make it into a shirt and wear it to Eden's next appearance. She's got a naughty sense of humor, so she'd get a kick out of it. I still crack up whenever I think about her signing "I own you" on that one fan's cleavage at the Brokerage.

It's completely pathetic of me, but when I saw that for the couples, you could select any two names you wanted, I paused for all of one second before picking Kinks. I know that Lianca will win the poll hands-down without my vote, so no harm done.

The wording of this spoiler cracks me up too: Lamaze classes are next, attended by partners JR and Babe, and Bianca and Kendall.

I'm really looking forward to this upcoming week. Kinks lamaze, Lianca actually having a deep conversation, Bianca getting the hell away from Naggie. What's not to love?
Mystic0
So, Mystic0, just for you...she certainly hasn't put on any fat there.


*gulp*

Um, no. There certainly isn't. Yowza, man. I really must send her personal trainer a nice fruit basket or something. I see what you mean about Eden looking...uh, well......er, hmm. Whew, man. Damn.

The ad says, " What would you do to stay in Eden forever?"


So onewomanshow is writing ads now? Nice.

It's completely pathetic of me, but when I saw that for the couples, you could select any two names you wanted, I paused for all of one second before picking Kinks.


Bwahahahahaha! Dude! You are soooooooo my hero! That shit is funny. Hee.
CKD
It's completely pathetic of me, but when I saw that for the couples, you could select any two names you wanted, I paused for all of one second before picking Kinks. I know that Lianca will win the poll hands-down without my vote, so no harm done.


That's ok, BK: I did the same thing and didn't even realize I had until I clicked "enter." Then, I changed my e-mail addy and voted for Kinks again. On purpose. Because I could.
onewomanshow
" What would you do to stay in Eden forever?"


BWAH! Ha ha! You have no idea. Heh. Did you click on the banner to watch the promo? "What would you do to stay in Eden forever. . .and ever and ever? Be careful what you wish for. Forever Eden." Hee. If I were Eden I would have that made into a poster and hang it on my bedroom door. But, I'm immature like that.

But hey, what's with the drive-by post? Get back here and give us a rundown on what you thought of the Kinks goodness this past week! Hee. And do you still have the ceremonial whip, because everyone here has said that I get to drive the KinkSled this upcoming week. ;-)


*ceremoniously handing Black Knight the KinkSled whip* And, hee.

[pointless venting] I have been stuck in this room for two weeks trying to get two screenplays finished in time to enter them into Project Greenlight. I've done nothing else, and you know what two weeks trapped in one room with nothing but my own thoughts caused me to realize? I'm a HACK, my writing stinks, I should go back to school and become a lawyer or a teacher or something because I make Jenny on The L Word look like fucking Toni Morrison. . .*dramatic inhalation* I needed to get that out. *sigh* Fuck winning the contest, I'm just glad it's over.[/pointless venting]

I have so much to catch up on. I suppose I just have to give a very generalized rundown of my thoughts, since most of what could be said has been said.

First of all, I'm going to give props to Alicia, Eden and Susan, because it cannot be said enough how well they did during those scenes in the briefing room.

I have to agree with everyone and say that Susan's been amazing lately. I'm not sure where she's drawing from to bring such a nuanced and subtle performance day after day, but as someone said, Susan is the one person, other than Agnes Nixon, who truly understands Erica's motivations. I suppose that, though for Erica, Bianca's pregnancy is all. about. her., which is typical, this time Erica's total self-involvement comes from a place of genuine hurt and confusion. Erica cannot for the life of her understand why Bianca would want to give birth to her rapist's child. Erica regards being pregnant with Kendall as the worst experience of her life, something to be forgotten and buried, and is constantly looking for any excuse to validate that view--hence, Erica's invariably withdrawing her love and support from Kendall at a moment's notice, with the slightest provocation and declaring that Kendall is just like her father, blah, blah, blah. . .mindfuckcakes. Now, however, by keeping her baby, Bianca, the person Erica loves most in the world (besides herself, of course) is challenging Erica's view of herself as it has never been challenged before. Couple that with the fact that Bianca and Kendall's relationship has become solidifiied, so to speak, and that it's obvious that their relationship is now beyond Erica's control (and how) and you've got the ingredients for a major meltdown for Erica. Not only will she no longer be able to shut Kendall out of the family on a whim, but she has to accept Bianca's baby or lose Bianca for good. It is a complex and precarious situation the likes of which Erica has never had to deal with, because this time no one's going to be up for any of her typical shit. All that to say that, most likely, Susan realizes the enormity of the situation for Erica and is therefore tempering her performances to reflect what must be a deeply introspective (as much as Erica is capable of introspection) time for the character. Mental thumbs up to La Looch.

Alicia, too, has been bringing the pain like never before. She blew me away all of this past week. I have to say that she was at her best during the "big reveal" and also in the moments before Bianca's confession in the courtroom. In both instances, Alicia conveyed some much more with only her eyes than pages and pages of dialogue ever could have--the pain, hurt and fear, mingled with relief that finally the truth was out. Wow, man. Just. Wow. My captain kicks all kinds of ass.

What can I say about Eden? She brought it like nobody's business. I knew what was coming, had heard Bianca say almost the exact same things before, and yet I was involved and interested every second because Eden was just. fucking. brilliant. I have to agree with those who did not particularly enjoy the courtroom speech and I have a feeling that the writer didn't quite know what to do with it, because the dialogue seemed stilted and unnatural, but Eden made it work, plus I'm an old softie--schoomped-out Lena just about made me misty.
CKD
[pointless venting] I have been stuck in this room for two weeks trying to get two screenplays finished in time to enter them into Project Greenlight. I've done nothing else, and you know what two weeks trapped in one room with nothing but my own thoughts caused me to realize? I'm a HACK, my writing stinks, I should go back to school and become a lawyer or a teacher or something because I make Jenny on The L Word look like fucking Toni Morrison. . .*dramatic inhalation* I needed to get that out. *sigh* Fuck winning the contest, I'm just glad it's over.[/pointless venting]



Eviscerated, you are?

You know, that's what Sofia Coppola thought when she was stuck on page 12 of Lost In Translation and tonight she won an Oscar for best original screenplay. And the woman whose script won the Project Greenlight thing last year is probably wishing her work had never been chosen because those two guys who made it into a movie - especially the short, moronic one (as opposed to the taller, p(w)ussy-like one - made her script into the crappiest crap that ever crapped.

What I'm saying is - when I look at your posts, I feel so completely dismantled. *cough*
Black Knight
Bwahahahahaha! Dude! You are soooooooo my hero! That shit is funny. Hee.

I did the same thing and didn't even realize I had until I clicked "enter." Then, I changed my e-mail addy and voted for Kinks again. On purpose. Because I could.

I think we have to say that CKD is the real hero. BWAH, CKD. silentbob, where are you? We finally have an internet poll where we can vote for Kinks, no hacking into the site required! Hee.

Welcome back, onewomanshow--never leave us again! I'm sure your screenplays rocked. Loved your incisive thoughts on the Kane Women stuff (but what, no commentary on the SisYay? Hee). I reiterate--never leave us again!

Did anyone else watch the Oscars pre-show, specifically the half hour before the ceremonies? Was that one "interviewer" Maria the same Maria-the-VH1-whatever-reporter who was appearing on AMC during the trial? Cuz this Maria made a complete fool out of herself over Owen Wilson, and got meanly, but not undeservedly, smacked down by Ben Stiller. God, she was a blithering idiot (perhaps the bit was pre-planned, in which case she's still an idiot for agreeing to it). The AMC cast must be thrilled she's not darkening their sets anymore.
onewomanshow
Eviscerated, you are?


This made me lose. my. shit. Wait. . .a minute. . .still. laughing. BWAH!

Loved your incisive thoughts on the Kane Women stuff (but what, no commentary on the SisYay? Hee). I reiterate--never leave us again!


Well, I will probably dip out for a bit the first week in May--Sundance Institute submissions. Other than that. . .

As for commenting on the glorious SisYaytacular of last week, hey, you asked for it, you got it:

Oh, Dark Father! That, "I love you, Bianca. And I think I would have killed for you." That was so. fucking. hot. I will admit to taking a moment to ponder why Kendall included the word "think", seeing as she did, in fact, attempt to kill for Bianca on more than one occasion. But, that moment passed before my lips even parted for the joyous EEEEEEEEE! And Bianca didn't bat so much as an eyelash at that--no, no! Because she would kill for Kendall, too, should it become necessary. Bianca would kill for Kendall, because she loves her girlfister purely and with a passionate intensity that most human beings will never know or would ever dare to imagine. Oh, Kinks Forever, dammit! By the way, I humbly suggest that we rename the Cabbage Patch the Happy Dance of Kinks Love--that's what I was doing while watching that part of the scene play out, singing all the while, of course. . .[2Pac]All I need in this life of sin--me and my girlfriend. Down to ride til' the bloody end--me and my girlfriend.[/2Pac] Lawdy!

And for just a few seconds, I too believed that Bianca was dropping to her knees in front of Kendall--thank you, Pervy Director! It was worth the disappointment, though, due to the Look of Absolute Adoration that Kendall kept focused on Bianca throughout her apology. Yowsa! And that hug? My cable reception was bad that day--someone tell me, was that slight scratching sound coming from my television the result of the poor reception, or was Kendall getting her Comfort!Rub on? I can't be sure. I know she was when Jackson and Reggie walked in. Ooooo. And Kinks kept their eyes closed the entire time. Smokin'! I ran the look on Erica's face just before Jackson and Reggie walked in, temporarily breaking up the SisYayfest, through the pervy filter, and for me it was--"All right, I get it, you love each other, now break it up! I'm getting squicked out and suspicious over here!" I know what you're thinking, Erica. . .and, yes, it is like that. Hee. By the by, CKD, I remember you saying that the positioning of Kinks' arms during the hug seemed a bit strange--I've thought about it, and have concluded that the embrace was designed so that Erica would appear to loom over them, looking rather excluded and unhinged; it was designed with the camera angle in mind. Baby switch anvil? Methinks so. Erica's so going to be involved somehow.

Kinks walking into the courtroom with their arms around each other's waists--behind everyone else? I have to assume they ducked into a storage closet, or perhaps a bathroom stall to do what they had been itching to do the entire time in the briefing room. . .Ah, Kinks. But, as for Bianca's confession, color me Confused Like Maggie Stone--why did she do that? I understand that she didn't want her girlfister to live eternally beneath a cloud of suspicion, and felt that after everything everyone in town had done to help cover-up and confuse the authorities, she owed them the truth. However, all that everyone did was done to prevent anyone from going to prison for the asscicle's murder, and it worked. Why render all of their hard work and good intentions null and void and why risk going to prison herself, with a girlfister and pseudo-girlfriend who both love and need her and a baby on the way? Doesn't make any sense to me. It was justified, for me, though, by the glorious SisYay it wrought. Kendall's run n' hug was delicious. Anyone else notice how Bianca dropped her coat off for the Baby!Reveal as if she knew that Kendall would grab it? "And I'll teach her, we'll teach her. . ." Textual acknowledgement that Kendall is truly the Kendallette's second mother. . .And in the judge's chambers? As much as I love Reggie, I wanted to slap the shit out of him for kneeling down in front of Bianca and breaking up the Kinks love thang. He wasn't involved and didn't have a clue as to what was transpiring. . .they were talking in Kinkscode, baby. Kinkscode, man. . .
Black Knight
Hee, onewomanshow. You really can't leave us again, ever. Not even for the Sundance Institute! You're too damn funny. (Are any of your screenplays comedies, by any chance?)

I figured Kendall said "think" because she didn't want to tell Bianca about the multiple murder attempts she'd already made and potentially make Bianca feel even worse.

I ran the look on Erica's face just before Jackson and Reggie walked in, temporarily breaking up the SisYayfest, through the pervy filter, and for me it was--"All right, I get it, you love each other, now break it up! I'm getting squicked out and suspicious over here!" I know what you're thinking, Erica. . .and, yes, it is like that.

Oh, totally. Hee. The Kinks bond is officially really, really bugging Erica, whether or not she realizes just how incestuous it is. Hearing the lengths Kendall went to pretty much pushed Erica over the edge, and it certainly didn't help that they were completely ignoring her to make googly eyes at each other. She'd like those two to break up, stat.

However, all that everyone did was done to prevent anyone from going to prison for the asscicle's murder, and it worked.

Not really. Jack was being too rosy-eyed with his assessment of the case (either because he's just a crappy DA, or because he was trying to get Bianca to shut up, but either way...she knows he's not that good of a lawyer, and she also has a good BS detector). Plus "not very likely" isn't a solid assurance. Erica's confession had been disproved by Tad. Kendall had admitted on the stand that she had no alibi, in fact was just a few feet away when Michael was shot, had stolen Jack's gun, and that she'd covered up and disposed of the body. She had motive, opportunity, and means. They had her cold for perjury, which would have been admissible in the next trial. Much of Livia's defense consisted of blowing apart the coroner's time of death--which became meaningless thanks to Kendall's confession--and on the whole pregnancy scam, which really made Kendall look like a lying liar. Suffice to say, there would have been a second trial, and Livia's defense in this case would've had to consist entirely of sticking people on the stand to say they had no alibi and wanted Michael dead. On the prosecution's side, they would've had reams of transcripts of Kendall lying, lying, lying. And second trials are heavily slanted in the prosecution's favor--they almost always win. I'm not saying Kendall would have necessarily been convicted, but there certainly would have been another trial and Kendall's defense would have been weaker. Clearly from Bianca's POV, another trial was too much to put Kendall through. Actually, Kendall would have been better off if there had been no mistrial, as she almost certainly would have been acquitted and thus would have been safe forever. Plus, if Bianca hadn't stepped forward, there's no statute of limitations on murder. The Kane-Montgomerys would have always been waiting for the axe to drop.

This does bring up an interesting issue that wasn't explored. Just how much more would the Kane-Montgomerys have been willing to let Kendall go through? Obviously, Kendall would have been willing to go all the way to death row (which is why Bianca was trying to tell her about limits, not that it sank in because sure enough, there Kendall was in the judge's chambers ten minutes later screaming about how she'd confess to murder, hee). Reggie and Jack and Erica all certainly wanted Kendall to be acquitted, yes, but would they have allowed Kendall to go through another trial? Probably. Kendall has a lot of reason to feel resentful, if she really thought about it. Bianca's welfare was placed above her own. Yes, Kendall does the same thing too, but it's one thing to make that choice for yourself and another to watch your family knowingly dangle you to the sharks. We know from Kendall's nightmare that that was a real fear for her. Add in that she's always had some resentment over Bianca being the favored child. And that's another reason why I think it was really important that Bianca stepped forward and said, "Enough," pretty much as soon as she remembered that she was the one who killed Michael. It reinforces for Kendall that Bianca is about the one person in this world she can trust completely, who loves Kendall enough to put her ahead of herself. Bianca learned from her mistake in getting Kendall involved in the pregnancy scam and knew that she should never do that again. If Bianca had not stepped forward in the courtroom, Kendall could have come to resent her down the road for it, especially as she sat sweating through a second murder trial.

On the flip side, of course, Bianca stepping forward just confirms for Kendall that she's right to adore her girlfister beyond reason and that she should do anything for Bianca. Limits? What limits? If Bianca goes and kills someone else and blocks it out, Kendall will do all this again. Hee.
Mystic0
Hee, onewomanshow. You really can't leave us again, ever. Not even for the Sundance Institute!


Yeah, what she said. The sled just isn't the same without you, man. (((hugs)))

which is why Bianca was trying to tell her about limits


I think you're the only other person that loved that as much as I did.

Limits? What limits? If Bianca goes and kills someone else and blocks it out, Kendall will do all this again. Hee.


Yep, Kendall surely would. An interesting part of Friday's ep was when Kendall basically told David that Bianca was in the clear and didn't need her anymore. I hope that was just Kendall's hurt over Ryan talking, but I guess it plays into Kendall's psyche and insecurities. I agree she trusts Bianca completely (Eden actually said that in a recent interview, I believe) but I don't think it's yet sunk in to Kendall that her place in Bianca's life is secure. I'm diggin' that the writers acknowledge that and give a nod to it. It takes another chunk out of the argument that the Kinks bonding is too forced. Yes, Kinks have bonded but it hasn't rid Kendall of her insecurities or perfected her character. She's still very much Kendall and I'm sure Bianca will go well out of her way to include Kendall in her and Kendall Jr's life until, eventually, Kendall gets it and and is assured of her place (and that her place won't be taken away at a whim). That kind of security will do Kendall a world of good.
Black Knight
An interesting part of Friday's ep was when Kendall basically told David that Bianca was in the clear and didn't need her anymore. I hope that was just Kendall's hurt over Ryan talking, but I guess it plays into Kendall's psyche and insecurities.

Ooo, good point. I forgot about that. I agree that it's in line with Kendall's deep-seated insecurities. She's always equated love very much with approval and with "what can I do for you?" actions. From her POV, with the pregnancy scam out the window and the murder mystery settled, Bianca no longer needs her. And I think Kendall was just going through some letdown feelings, which can happen after a big event like childbirth, weddings, etc. (Erica/Ryan didn't help in the slightest, of course.) Plus, though no one's said it outright, and Bianca was damn careful in what she said to Kendall and made sure to take all of the blame, Kendall's got to feel ever so slightly stupid that she didn't just tell Bianca what she'd done and found her a psychologist to bring out the repressed memories, whatever, to at least find out if it was self-defense. She could have saved herself six months of trouble.

I agree she trusts Bianca completely (Eden actually said that in a recent interview, I believe) but I don't think it's yet sunk in to Kendall that her place in Bianca's life is secure.

True, especially as Bianca has a zillion people in her life and she isn't lying to anyone anymore. Like Bianca told Kendall a while ago at Ryan's, Bianca had gotten through this entire thing by choosing a few select people to trust, of whom Kendall was one. So Kendall was in this exclusive little circle. Now everyone knows everything. Without grand gestures to make, I don't think she quite knows how to keep her position. That said, I'm sure Bianca's going to be very careful to let Kendall know she's as loved and wanted as ever.

While I'm thrilled that Lianca are going to discuss the fact that Lena's in therapy, and I hope the suicide attempt comes out, I'm going to be curious to see if Lena ever asks Bianca just how Michael's death went down. She knows that it was done in self-defense. I'd be worried about what that meant. And in light of Bianca finding out Lena's in therapy for trauma over the whole Michael mess, I wonder just how much Bianca will ever be inclined to tell her. This conversation could either open the way for better communication between Lianca, or it could reinforce Bianca's inclination to overprotect. It'll be interesting to see which way it goes, especially if Lena doesn't ever ask. That would bring up the question of whether Lena's just respecting Bianca's apparent desire not to talk about it, or whether she really, really doesn't want to know because she's not certain she can handle it.

Ah, Lianca. Gotta love their issues--it makes them interesting.
DeeeDee
Why is Opal wearing an extra-large potholder?
Black Knight
Because she can?

The Punisher strikes again!
Dabney
Did anyone else watch the Oscars pre-show, specifically the half hour before the ceremonies? Was that one "interviewer" Maria the same Maria-the-VH1-whatever-reporter who was appearing on AMC during the trial?


BK No, the girl on the Oscars preshow is from Entertainment Tonight, not the VH1 Radio Network or wherever trial reporter was supposed to be from. Also, she and Ben and Owen were doing a comedy skit. It was all a joke.
Black Knight
Yeah, I thought it might be pre-planned. I'm torn on whether that makes her an even bigger idiot or not.

Anyway, thanks for clearing that up for me, Dabney.
CKD
BK, that's some hella good speculation/thinking on the Lianca crossroad. I've always thought Lena was going to therapy to deal with her suicide attempt while still managing to keep the Asshat stuff in a separate drawer but, like you, I'm looking forward (and will therefore be certainly disappointed) to the chat to see whether Lena will ask Bianca about the rape and the murder and whether her reticence to do so to this point has been dictated by her own inability to deal or by her respect for Bianca's apparent choice not to go there with her. It's a safe fanwank to assume it's a good mix of both as Lena seems to understand that Bianca needs lots of space and freedom to make her own choices: at this point, I don't think that's part of Lena's plan and desire to come closer to Bianca masquerading as real understanding (as it perhaps was right after the rape).

They have an interesting dynamic in the sense that each protects the other in the manner each thinks is appropriate and most important while missing the huge ass clues, too: it's both adorable and insane.
eejm
Why is Opal wearing an extra-large potholder?


I was likewise wondering if Erica's outfit today was made of a Fruit Roll-Up or beef jerky. Perhaps the costumers have some food issues.
Mystic0
From her POV, with the pregnancy scam out the window and the murder mystery settled, Bianca no longer needs her.


Yep, and today Kendall admitted that without that being needed, she has no idea what to do with herself. She's being silly (understandably so). No matter, the ball's in Bianca's court and I'm sure she'll prove to Kendall how much she's still needed.

On to today's show: JR is the father of Babe's baby! Or is he? Yeah, like I care. Jamie becomes more unlikable by the day. I'm glad Greasy is gone so I don't have to have these feelings of contempt toward him. NuJamie just bugs. I felt for Adam having to grovel to Babe but I always like it when he shows how much he loves JR. Shut up! I'm a sap like that. I even like the rare moments when JR is nice to his dad. Slutty wives come and go, but family is forever, man.

How did everyone read Erica's drinking in front of Opal and Jack? I wanted to see it as one of those unconscious cry for help type deals but it seemed more of a "Fuck you, I'll do what I want and y'all can kiss my ass if you don't like it!". Interesting that neither Jack nor Opal approached the Bianca (Now with 100% more baby!) sized elephant in the room. I guess no one wanted to push.

You know what I hate? When characters talk to each other off screen. So now it's Erica AND Bianca wanting Kendall to have and run Enchantment? Huzzah? I don't have a problem with Kendall having Bianca's blessing but I'd have liked to have heard the convo. I guess it must have happened when Kendall left David's. Maybe that off screen conversation will explain why Binky is suddenly moving out of her tropical studio.
Black Knight
CKD, I agree with you that Lena's been going to therapy to deal with the suicide attempt, but I would imagine that to successfully help Lena work through that, at least some of the Asshat stuff has to be dealt with as well--whatever Lena is willing to tell her doctor, anyway. From her comments to Maggie, the therapy is going well, so she must have talked about some of it at least. Certainly the doctor's first real question had to be, "So, what prompted this suicide attempt?" I'm hella curious to see how this all works out. I agree it's probably a mixture of both possibilities on Lena's part--wanting to give Bianca the space Bianca needs while also being a little afraid of hearing everything. Now she did hear Bianca's courtroom testimony about the rape, and while Bianca censored huge parts of the story--especially the Lena stuff--Lena does know quite a few details about what happened as a result. But she does need to ask Bianca about the self-defense to find out just how far Michael got with her. But we may never find out if Lena would or wouldn't ask, as I can see Bianca volunteering that information herself in a very nonchalant way so she can downplay it--a lot like she did when she told Lena about her anorexia. Maybe a "Michael started moving towards me, so I shot him," which is technically the truth but leaves out much of the ugly stuff. The whole truth is an upsetting story; Kendall was horrified when she heard it.

I'm PBPing it today and will watch tonight, so some comments based on that:
Did Kendall really say that she doesn't remember what it was like before Bianca gave her a reason to wake up in the morning? There ya go, Pervy, bring that SisYay even when they're not onscreen together...

Greenlee, if you really want to make things up to Kendall, don't fix things between her and Ryan. Kendall is better off without Frankenbrow, as are you. And stop the Ryan-fluffing already, AMC. It's not noble that Ryan "gave" Bianca the Cambias estate. He had no choice. The estate is legally her baby's.

How can Kendall say "Ryan" while kissing David? Jeez. I bet David was grossed out.

Boyd's turned into a catty little bitch. I guess it's so we won't miss him. Y'know, I get that he feels used and led on, though we didn't really see any evidence of that, but Bianca's supposed to be one of his best friends. Shouldn't he be a little grateful or something that Kendall was trying to keep her safe? Whatever. I do find it interesting that it's been mentioned several times what Bianca might be inclined to do for Kendall. I wonder if it's going to play in at some point.

And from the preview--Olga got a haircut? Thank goodness, except then why did they even bother with having her grow out her hair in the first place? We put up with all that bad hair for nothing.

ETA:
No matter, the ball's in Bianca's court and I'm sure she'll prove to Kendall how much she's still needed.

Snerk. I still love how Kinks pervifies the most innocent of sentences. Lamaze ought to go a long way towards that.
CKD
Opal wasn't wearing a beaded car seat cover? Just me then. Ok.
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