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kariyaki
Greenlee in the mine is getting old, but I loved that even in Greenlee's head, Mia is still stupid.

I can't imagine Mia being intelligent in ANYbody's fantasy. The person imagining it would have to be seriously fucked up. We're talking black-tar-heroin-smoking fucked up.

Isn't another SBtB alum on a soap somewhere?

Yeah, the girl that plays Marah on GL.
Black Knight
Thanks, jenmarie. Now I can shut my friend up--it's been one of her constant complaints the last week or so. "Why doesn't Greenlee have her cell with her?" blah blah blah...

She knew Binky was mulling something in her brain, just by looking at her. They were all dumbasses for thinking Bianca was gonna keep quiet. Binks letting her GF live under public suspicion even if Kendall's never tried again for offing Mikey? Please, not gonna happen.

Word. Bianca only went along in the first place because she was still in some shock, and once her brain started functioning again, well, that was that. Jack was being completely fairytale in his assessment and I'm sure she could tell. Tad had established an airtight alibi for Erica, so her confession no longer helps Kendall's case, and Kendall would have been tried again, with a weaker defense and proof of her lies from the first trial. And statistically, the prosecution's odds of winning are vastly increased with a second trial. Bianca wasn't going to take the chance or put her girlfister through any more.

One part of the ep that cracked me up was when the Kane-Montgomerys are first talking in the briefing room about Bianca being guilty, and then Tad sticks his head in and everyone shuts up. Jack gets rid of him and the family immediately huddles again to decide on strategy. Classic. I loved when Bianca asked Erica for her opinion and Erica paused briefly before saying, "Listen to your sister." It's interesting on a couple of levels because, 1) Erica would never have dreamed that she'd ever advise that Bianca listen to Kendall, and 2) it's an interesting subtle acknowledgment on Erica's part that Kendall's opinion carries more weight with Bianca, that the Kendall/Bianca bond is stronger, and it had to be a bit of a bitter pill for her to swallow. Erica wanted to be the one who killed Michael, the one who saved her daughters, and she also assumed that her daughters were trying to save her. She couldn't do the first two things, and she turned out to be largely incidental in regards to the third. For Erica, that's an adjustment.
txm79
In honor of today's Kinks scenes, I present lyrics to 311's Amber


Heh. Kinks has a song.

Reggie needs to wear shirts like that more often. Nothing wrong with robbing the cradle...I did so enjoy Reggie, Bianca, and Kendall nearly having a group hug and standing by each other lined up in a row like cute little sibling ducks. I adore that crazy family.

When I was rewinding the tape to watch, I hit play right as Bianca was apparently kneeling down. I was like, "Whoa!" Then I realized it was the couch when I watched all the way through.

Susan Lucci is doing really well with this stuff. I thought it was funny when Kendall and Bianca were holding hands, and Erica was watching and the camera focused on the hands and then showed Erica's face. I know it was a "Look at how my daughters have bonded" moment. (No, not that way) but of course I thought of it as Erica seeing and realizing the incestuous love. How I love this show and my sick mind.

What I would have liked to see in the flashback is Kendall running out and seeing that Bianca had just killed Michael. That would've been cool. But who knows, maybe we'll see it eventually.
kariyaki
What I would have liked to see in the flashback is Kendall running out and seeing that Bianca had just killed Michael. That would've been cool. But who knows, maybe we'll see it eventually.

I wanted to see Kendall's face as she recounted the incident to Bianca and Erica and am happy they didn't do a voiceover scene. I also want to see the flashback of Kendall's initial reaction to Bianca killing Michael but I'm glad they didn't do it today.
pesky kids
I'm okay on Anita so far. Although, when I first saw her, I was like, "Why is Greenlee talking to Aidan? I thought she was in a mine shaft." Seriously, yo, Anita looks like the love child of Greenlee and Simone.


Word! I forgot to mention that earlier, but once I realized she wasn't really Greenlee, and I didn't have a clue who she was, I thought maybe Greenlee had a long lost twin sister, and she was going to be the one to find and rescue Greens from the shaft... in more ways than one. Then they could live next door to Kinks and...

[OT]I don't recognise Anita from Saved by the Bell, but that reminded me. Simone was on an episode of Boy Meets World. She played a smart, pretty girl who tried to get into Eric's pants when she was supposed to be tutoring him. She also gave him the test answers and told him he wasn't smart enough to learn it on his own. She encouraged him to use his good looks to help him get by in life. The moral message came when Feeny chided her for writing Eric off as being "just a cute boy" when she'd worked her whole life to get away from being "just a cute airhead". She looked sufficiently chastized at the end.

Yes. I lead a sad, sad existance. Sigh.[/OT]
CKD
[OT] Way to go Mr. President, back the ban on gay marriage in the U.S. Constitution! That's what the Constitution is for: liberty, political freedom, votings rights and banning gay marriage because lofty ideas? They're a thing of the past. [/irony and /OT]

Even though I've not recapped her yet, Anita seems ok; she and Maria did seem to easily slip in sister mode and that's good.

I'm filing a whole new complaint today: give Brooke a story! If it must involve Beastmund, then let her kill the bore and move on to Liza. Or Lena.
SkiffyPup
[OT] Poor President. He's going to stop the confusion and uncertainty with a constitutional amendment. The the USA will be perfectly clear and certain. You know, like North Korea. Nice to know our president is less evolved than King Nordrom Sianouk (sp?) too! [OT]

It's not really OT, because this means Naggie will have to drive Bianca and Lena all the way to Canada.
kariyaki
Simone was on an episode of Boy Meets World.

Yes. I lead a sad, sad existance. Sigh.

Not as sad as I, who not only KNEW that but managed to tape the episode. I have it somewhere.
Black Knight
I wanted to see Kendall's face as she recounted the incident to Bianca and Erica and am happy they didn't do a voiceover scene. I also want to see the flashback of Kendall's initial reaction to Bianca killing Michael but I'm glad they didn't do it today.

Yup, there's no reason we can't have both, and I'm very hopeful that we'll get both, kariyaki. But AMC's decision to only show Kendall's face as she recounted the incident yesterday reminded me of Jonathan Demme talking about how he directed The Silence of the Lambs. The original script had called for flashbacks to be seen during the big Clarice/Hannibal sequence in which she tells him about the lambs screaming, showing Young Clarice running around with the one lamb in her arms and all. And Demme called the script writer, Ted Tally, after shooting the scene with Jodie Foster and Anthony Hopkins and told him that it had been so powerful that if he'd cut away from that scene to show flashbacks, he would've had to turn in his card as a member of the directors' guild. In short, sometimes you just don't cut away from actors to do flashbacks.

That's what got me about the big Kendall-confesses scene yesterday, and why I rewatched it like five times in a row at home. I really wasn't paying much attention to the dialogue at all, which was mostly exposition and had no surprises. It was all about the emotions for me. Kendall's heartbreak at having to tell Bianca she did kill Michael. Bianca's numb self-loathing for having blocked out the event and devastation at the hell Kendall went through. Erica's despair. Though of course, dialogue-wise there was definitely some good stuff, from Kendall's "I love you and I think I would've killed for you" (thinks? well, she probably didn't want to upset Bianca even more) to Bianca's repeated "please forgive me"s to Kendall's final tearful vow that she wouldn't let Bianca be hurt. The three actresses kicked that scene outta the park. Awwww.

I'm looking forward to the courtroom theatrics today. I noticed that, Kane-Montgomerys aside, the only one who seemed to notice something was up with Bianca running to the judge was Myrtle. She jumped up and looked concerned--it'd be interesting if she had guessed the truth all along. I also thought Livia didn't look too surprised--she looked surprised that Bianca was confessing now, but not all that surprised that Binks was the killer. Especially since Kendall probably refused to let Livia put Binks on the stand.

I had to laugh about the whole mistrial thing because actually, from Kendall's POV, it would have been better for her if the judge hadn't declared a mistrial. As the case stood, the jury would've returned an acquittal within five minutes and then she would've been safe forever, thanks to double jeopardy. Good one Jack, always dispensing that helpful legal advice...no wonder Bianca knew not to listen to you.

[OT]Personally, I just want my beloved San Francisco to secede from the U.S. We didn't elect Bush, so why should we have to deal with his idiocy?[/OT]
onlyinPV
this means Naggie will have to drive Bianca and Lena all the way to Canada.


They only have to go as far as Vermont, where they can raise an organic garden and wear flannel shirts for the rest of their lives.
kariyaki
Heh, didn't Kendall once pick on Bianca about Vermont? Something about raising goats and wearing old tires as sandals. My how times have changed.
Black Knight
Wasn't that during the whole "I'm doing something you can never do...get married to a man?" bit when Kendall got engaged to Ryan? Heh.

The thought of clotheshorses Bianca and Lena wearing nothing but flannel cracks my shit up.
SkiffyPup
The thought of clotheshorses Bianca and Lena wearing nothing but flannel cracks my shit up.


Hee! No lie. But who wouldn't want to see Olga in black jeans, a wifebeater, an unbuttoned flannel shirt in groovy faded colors, and a pair of white leather Keds? Hmmm? le sigh.
kariyaki
Wasn't that during the whole "I'm doing something you can never do...get married to a man?" bit when Kendall got engaged to Ryan? Heh.

No, it from when Kendall was trying to get Greenlee to hire her at "Revlon" to irk Erica, so Bianca got the idea to work at Enchantment to counteract it. (I had to look up the details in an old recap of mine.) Now that I recall the scene, it's funny because it ends with Bianca kissing Kendall on the cheek and Kendall wipes off her face all disgustedly while Bianca's walking away making spitting noises.
DrCher
Erica, you cold bitch. Hug your daughter!
Black Knight
Now that I recall the scene, it's funny because it ends with Bianca kissing Kendall on the cheek and Kendall wipes off her face all disgustedly while Bianca's walking away making spitting noises.

Oh, damn. Damn damn damn. I missed that episode--there's no way I would have forgotten a scene like that. Hee.

SkiffyPup, I would hope Olga would know that Keds went out years ago, and have thrown any pairs she might ever have owned away (along with that horrendous blouse with the huge-ass flower she was wearing at an appearance a few months ago), but other than that, I'd be down for seeing that outfit on Olga. Hee.

Yikes, DrCher. I better stay away from this board for the next hour and a half until I get to see AMC myself...(checks on blood-pressure med supply)
jenmarie
I LOVE REGGIE!

Regarding the gun: "Hey hey hey, I got that from a gumball machine." Heeheeheehee!
DrCher
Good idea, Greens - stand under the cave in.
kariyaki
The direction was a little funky today. Bianca turns around to face the peanut gallery, the camera moves over a little bit, and you can see Palmer and a few others shuffle over to stay in its line.

Then there were the reaction shots as Bianca went through her monologue. I was screaming at a few of them: "Aaah! Get Mia off my screen!" Ditto, Naggie. There are some people I can't abide looking at because of their incredibly selfish behavior in this whole mess.

"Do you want to have a drink?" Is Naggie now trying to date Lena?

I can't believe Exeter and Tarzan were at first pushing for Murder One charges against Bianca. Are they insane? Do they really think they could attempt to prosecute the pregnant rape victim and still have jobs afterwards? Actually, they'll be lucky to keep their jobs as-is with the way the investigation was run. Exeter was only just appointed to it, so he may get off light but Tarzan did a piss-poor job. And since Dax Griffin has been let go, I'll be looking forward to the "you're fired" scene Tarzan is sure to get.

At any rate, Hannah earns my love once more for believing in Bianca and offering to "share her opinion" with the poor unfortunate judge that would draw that case. Go Hannah!

Still liking Anita. They just need to get her away from Maurmund for her to really catch on--but keep her away from Aidan, though.

Oh, damn. Damn damn damn. I missed that episode--there's no way I would have forgotten a scene like that. Hee.

I have that one. No way would I tape over that.
DrCher
And since Dax Griffin has been let go, I'll be looking forward to the "you're fired" scene Tarzan is sure to get.

Did you see how Reggie/Michael B. Jordan patted Tarzan on the back as he exited the room? Not a spoiler, but it was as if he was saying goodbye to Tarzan.
eejm
I noticed the bit about the camera too, kariyaki, and that it was really wobbly during the Michael-Bianca scenes. Was it shot somewhat amateurish because this was supposed to be Bianca's memory or something?

Also - I thought that Bianca found out that she was pregnant after Michael had disappeared. What was up with her telling Michael about the baby?
DrCher
Also - I thought that Bianca found out that she was pregnant after Michael had disappeared. What was up with her telling Michael about the baby?

From ABC's synops: 8/25/03 - Bianca's worst fears are confirmed when David tells her that she is pregnant. 8/28/03 - Michael is offered an intriguing deal over the phone and later invites an unseen visitor into his condo (last scene).
Mystic0
At any rate, Hannah earns my love once more for believing in Bianca and offering to "share her opinion" with the poor unfortunate judge that would draw that case. Go Hannah!


I'm so smitten with Hannah right now, I don't know what to do with myself. She was so damn awesome. I'm going to miss her (and Livia) soooooo much. (sniffle) Someone hold me.

Word about wanting to knock some peeps outta the reaction shot gallery. Man, Liz looked like hell today. Lay off the partying Liz, it's catching up with you. Mia? Ugh. I still love scenes when the majority of the cast is there. I just like seeing them all together. I love Simone with her naughty skirts and shiny hair. I don't care that you have no purpose, Simone, I heart your cute little worthless self. Unlike, say, Mia. Grrrr.

I realize that this ep (the trial portion anyway) was brought to us by the makers of sap, but I still liked it in all its sappy glory. I adored the Lianca schmoop. I was 'awwwwing' at Lena's teary eyed shots. She's so domesticated and sweet. All of her heartfelt fretting just made me want to hug her. Love ya, girlfriend. Dug the Kinks/Reggie scenes. They're my favorite TV siblings ever. Kendall was the perfect GF once again (as was Lena). "She's not going anywhere without me!" Kendall you are so damn cute. Jackson is a sweetheart. I so want an Uncle Jack, don't care that he's kinda useless.

Erica, you cold bitch. Hug your daughter!


She sucks. The one sour note in my happy little sapfest. Bitch.

I have that one. No way would I tape over that.


I'll give you a kidney if you'll upload that clip somewhere. Seriously, just pick your organ and it's yours. ;)
kariyaki
Did you see how Reggie/Michael B. Jordan patted Tarzan on the back as he exited the room? Not a spoiler, but it was as if he was saying goodbye to Tarzan.

Yeah, that was great. Cracked me up.

I'll give you a kidney if you'll upload that clip somewhere. Seriously, just pick your organ and it's yours.

Well, I have good news and bad news. I do have the technology to make my VHS stuff digital but unfortunately, my ISP doesn't give me enough free space for stuff that big. Anybody got any suggestions?
jenmarie
I know I was supposed to be moved by Bianca's speech to peanut gallery, but I just wasn't at all. I just kept yelling fo her to shut up. Bianca is brave and noble, I get it. I hate cloying speeches, and this was on par with Bianca's speech at the student union post rape.

Shoo! Naggie Shoo! Hee, I love how dismissive Lena is of Naggie.

I think AlternaGreenlee, was leftover from RB's days as Michelle on GL.
kariyaki
Ooh! jenmarie, I was thinking that very same thing about First Evil Greenlee. I was even planning on calling her Michelle in my recap.
KerleyQ
I love, love, love, love Reggie. I want him to be my pretend little brother. He's just so great. Loved him patting Tarzan on the back with that big cheesy smile when he was walking out the door in defeat.

And LOVE Hannah. I knew there was no way in hell she was going to let Bianca suffer through a trial, no matter what she had to pull.

And I see today it was Kendall's turn to get down on bended knee in front of Bianca. Those two are so adorably in love.

I may be a sap, but I loved seeing the whole town sitting there in the courtroom rooting for Bianca. It was sappy and cheesy, but it warmed my heart. I almost cried.

I laughed my ass off when Greenlee stepped into the falling rocks. Because that's the best way to go in that situation. Although I am glad, actually, that they chose now for her to be stuck in the mineshaft. I'd hate to have seen her running around trying to make Bianca's confession all about her.
ripley9
<tentatively enters, bows head and genuflects before the Altar of Snark>

I've been enjoying the insightful (& often side-splitting) analysis in this thread since late spring, but finally had to delurk to inform the sled-goers of their impending good fortune. (Hope I get the spoiler tags right.) New spoiler pics from ABC MediaNet for the week of Mar 1st and it looks like Lamaze (sp?) class. Well, well, well -- seems Kinks is alive and *thriving*. (Oh, and the Babe-Binky bonding continues.) I think there's been a coup in the AMC Writers' room and Pervy has taken over.

eta: Frell! Almost got it right the 1st time...
kariyaki
ripley9, that's a hell of a way to make your debut in this thread.

*welcomes with open Kinks-loving arms*

Those pics? Eeeeee!
Mystic0
(scrambles like mad to click link)

ripley9, marry me! We can make it work, I swear! Hee. Welcome aboard and post often. :)


I hate cloying speeches


Dude, I generally always hate when they make Binky speechify but I was ok with it today. Mainly because it got everything out in the open, the killing, why Kendall did what she did, and the baby. Finally, no more freakin' secrets. I'm glad they ripped that band-aid off and got it all over with.

And I see today it was Kendall's turn to get down on bended knee in front of Bianca. Those two are so adorably in love.


Hee! The Kinks, man. They are outta control. Love. Them.

may be a sap, but I loved seeing the whole town sitting there in the courtroom rooting for Bianca. It was sappy and cheesy, but it warmed my heart.


I feel ya. I was one with the sap.
biakbiak
I hate cloying speeches


I also didn't like the way it was staged. With everyone just standing bathing in Bianca's glowing light. However, what really annoyed me was Myrtle's reaction and her looking at Erica as if she couldn't form an opinion on what was being said on her own.

Enough with the FE Greenlee. Also, why can't this mindshaft run out of air?

And oh my god with the revisionist history, the reason that she exposed Kendall was because she was trying to protect Ryan? Hello, Ryan told her on several occasions that he had SEX with Kendall and that she was PREGNANT, does Greenlee think that Ryan wouldnt be able to tell the difference between a pregnancy pad and an actual pregnant woman.

eta: And because of y'all my when Bianca looked down at Kendall and said "Are we..." I was sure she was either going to finish that line with "going to have sex now" or "in love."
kariyaki
And oh my god with the revisionist history, the reason that she exposed Kendall was because she was trying to protect Ryan? Hello, Ryan told her on several occasions that he had SEX with Kendall and that she was PREGNANT, does Greenlee think that Ryan wouldnt be able to tell the difference between a pregnancy pad and an actual pregnant woman.

I know! Unless Greenlee was assuming that Kendall insisted on keeping her top on at all times during sex with Ryan. I know Ryan is a doofus but surely he would catch on to that.

I also was filling in the blanks to that "Are we" question.
CKD
What was with Maggie's bizarro smile once Lena walked out of the coutroom?

I am not at all satisfied - or pleased - with Bianca's speechifying: it was soulless and self-serving. I was hoping for something a bit more touching and a lot less sanctimonious.
SkiffyPup
Word, CK. But, at least it's sorta over. Tell me Livia and Hudge Lampert are staying, someone! Please?

Ripley9: Thanks for the Kinks! You, of course, know that this means Lena fans are going to have massive strokes that Lena isn't involved in the Lamaze classes. Babe's hubby being there will only make it worse. They shoulda picked Krystal to avoid backlashings.

My oh my. We're all sharing a brain about the fill ins for Kinks kneeling scene today. Mine were " ... going to get married?" and " ... going to tell everyone."
Queen B
Jesus, Greenlee, shut the fuck up and get away from the falling rock. Are they redeeming this character or dumbing her down? I really can't tell right now.

I still am liking nuAnita. I've liked her scenes with...well, each of the few people she's had scenes with so far. I'm just not sure I get why they'd bring on another female character this particular age. Any word on what they're planning on doing with Bobby and the obviously unhappy marriage?

The only court drama scene that I really liked today was the end when Reggie put his arms around Kinks. The three of them...I tell you, I don't know what it is, but scenes with those three being all love-y and familial just get me crying. I'm such a baby sometimes.

I like and believe Erica's non-reactions right now, but I bet I won't like the inevitable breakdown that is sure to follow. Maybe I will, though, if Bianca and Kendall are the ones she does it with. Since I can practically taste it already, it just feels so...regurgitated, like we've been through this a thousand other times with Erica.

Whatever. Boring episode for the most part. And it caused me to flip channels and I caught site of the creepiest twins in the world on B&B. *shudder* So I'm mad at this episode. Except for the sibling lovefest at the end.
SkiffyPup
Great reactions and scenework from Jack and Lena today too. That's so much harder than doing "the speech." they both looked so worried and fretful and then proud and still worried.

And Lena seemed to convey her total love for the reemergence of the (idealized)Bianca she fell for - The truthful and brave and courageous one.
Black Knight
ripley9, you made my day with those photos. EEEEEEEEEEE! KerleyQ, I believe that takes us at least one step closer to a textual acknowledgment that Kinks is doing it. Hee.

Mainly because it got everything out in the open, the killing, why Kendall did what she did, and the baby. Finally, no more freakin' secrets. I'm glad they ripped that band-aid off and got it all over with.

Yeah, that's why I liked it too. It wrapped up the whole SL, finally, no secrets left. I liked that Bianca admitted all the ways in which she'd screwed up, took responsibility, apologized and determinedly did the right thing this time. I liked that Bianca very gently tried to tell Kendall that Kendall should never go to these dangerous extremes for anyone. Kendall won't listen, of course, and will adore Bianca more than ever, but at least Binks tried to explain the concept of boundaries. (Not the boundaries that rule out hot incestuous loving, though.) All of this could have been avoided if Kendall and Reggie had just told Bianca six months ago what she'd done, as much as I understand why they didn't and love them for it. Add me in to those who melted during the group sibling hug.

I was surprised at Singer's hard stance, but that meant plenty of amusing stuff with Livia telling him she'd bury him in post-trauma stress syndrome paperwork, and Kendall looking like she was about to jump out of her skin and go apeshit. The judge and Livia rocked. I wailed when Livia said goodbye and left the room after the judge did. Please, don't leave us, you two! I know we see Livia at least a couple of times more, but still. I'm desolate.

Erica--I'd tell her to shut up, except she actually didn't say much at all. So, instead, I just have to tell her to grow the fuck up and realize that there are more important things than the fact that she disapproves of her daughter's decision to have her rapist's baby. I'm not giving her points for speaking up in chambers and saying she'd confess because Tad had already given her an airtight alibi, so Erica's confession would've been worthless. It was a meaningless gesture. Jeez, what a cold, self-absorbed bitch. But it's okay because Kendall, Reggie and Jack made up for it.

I also was filling in the blanks to that "Are we" question.

As was I. And I also snickered at Kendall getting down on her knees before Bianca. Hmmm, maybe that's why Erica left, so she doesn't have to acknowledge the SisYay.

Naggie was just weird today. I wasn't sure if it was supposed to be some sort of damage control now that she realized that Lena wasn't going to be sent to jail for murder after all. Heh. Loved her grumpy look when Lianca were hugging. Give it up, Nags. Your boob-shirt is not working.

I'm feeling more and more optimistic about Anita--the actress is still doing well with shitty material, is still likable, clicks well with her family, and is still cute. I snickered when Maria had Brooke hauled out by security--Maria's totally wrong, of course, but the look on Brooke's face was funny.
SkiffyPup
If Olga leaves (NOooooooooh!), then I'd be on board for a divorced NuNita/Bianca pairing. Bring on the pretty. But I wouldn't be watching with my current level of intensity. I am so Olga's bitch.

They could call it A+B See daytime!
txm79
Yippy for those pictures! This show is too wonderful. Well, except for all the crappiness.

I was disturbed by the flashback today. I'm so glad that creepy bastard is dead. I liked and disliked the speech scene for all the reasons mentioned already. I liked that it got everything in the open and I like seeing everyone together, but then with the love saving us all stuff and Bianca walking all through the courtroom to her admirers, bleh. I loved the mini group hug of Kendall, Bianca, and Reggie. That was precious and made me smile at the TV, and I think the TV smiled back.

How long has Greenlee been in the mineshaft of delirium in Pine Valley days? It's like 2, right? It feels like it's been 3 months.

I want someone to punch Ryan. No, not just punch him. I want it to be like the song in The Holy Grail about Sir Robin. Have his eyes gouged out and his elbows broken, his kneecaps split, etc.

I'm going to miss the hell out of Judge Lampert and Livia. I'm so depressed.
Black Knight
Yeah, this is Greenlee's second day in the mineshaft. Rebecca's probably very happy because it means she would've had a much easier work schedule than everyone else this month, for all that she's been on nearly every day. Courtroom/group scenes take a lot longer to tape.

I want someone to punch Ryan.

Oh yeah, I forgot to comment about that earlier. Please, can the Ryan-fluffing. Now. (I'm amazed they didn't have him in the judge's chambers fixing everything.) I sighed when Kendall ran after him. Now she gets to listen to him go on about Greenlee some more.

I'm still cackling gleefully over those pictures, ripley9. Kendall looks damn cute and happy, and it's totally TwoMommies, what with the handholding, the standing arm-in-arm, and so on. It absolutely looks like Bianca introducing her GF to Boobe. Hee! I knew Kendall would be Bianca's lamaze partner--she jumped at volunteering months ago. Ah, Kinks.
kariyaki
I laughed at the very end scene where Ryan pictures Greenlee in Kendall's clothes. Yeah, Greenlee only WISHES she could get into Kendall's pants again. Bianca will have something to say about that.
Black Knight
That reminds me, I snickered at Greenlee's "I'm jealous of Kendall" line. Yes, it's supposed to be read in the "I hate that she has all the family and friends and my company" way, but of course a quick run through the Pervy filter yields "I'm jealous of Kendall because she dumped me for Bianca and I want Kendall baaaaaaack!" Fat chance.

I love Clueless, so Rebecca's semi-channeling of Alicia Silverstone for Alternate Greenlee cracked me up. I did like what Alt. Greenlee had to say at the very end, though--I don't remember the words now, but the gist was basically that Greenlee needs to be nicer, but she shouldn't change everything about herself, either. More that she needs to let down a few of the walls and let other people see what's likable about her. So like Kendall's growth over the last six months, Greenlee can grow and still be Greenlee.
Mystic0
Jesus, Greenlee, shut the fuck up and get away from the falling rock.


Let's face it, the mine has had enough of Greens. Her chucking a rock at it was the last straw. Fight back, mineshaft, you ain't gotta take that!

I liked that Bianca very gently tried to tell Kendall that Kendall should never go to these dangerous extremes for anyone.


That was pretty groovy. All the Kinks stuff rocked. I liked the sorta silent communication thing Bianca did with Kendall, when they had that moment where Kendall nodded that it was ok for Binks to out little Kendall Jr. to the world. I'm so glad all this stuff is out in the open now. I'm looking forward to seeing where things go. But whatever comes, Kinks and Reggie, man, that's where it's at.

Those Kinks pics! Damn, that made me giggle uncontrollably. I'm Kinks drunk now.

I was disturbed by the flashback today. I'm so glad that creepy bastard is dead.


Ditto, man. That was beyond disturbing. Mikey is the sickest, most twisted bastard ever. He would have never stopped. Ever. Ugh.

I love Clueless, so Rebecca's semi-channeling of Alicia Silverstone for Alternate Greenlee cracked me up.


Rebecca rocks.
regis
Great reactions and scenework from Jack and Lena today too.
I especially liked Olga's acting while she was out of focus just over Eden's shoulder as Bianca talked to the judge. She puts so much into the tiniest background moments.
Stinkerbella
I too, was one of the people who wanted Bianca to "Shut the Hell Up!" I guess I'm so tired of all this Mikey Cambias bullshit. Please Olga, don't resign with this stupid show...that way, I can have an hour of my life back. But getting back to the speechifying...it just didn't do anything for me...I didn't feel sorry for her. Blah blah blah everybody covered for your ass and you're grateful...Shut yer piehole! Did anybody else think GnomeNaggie was gonna do a slow clap at the end of Bianca's speech?

Oh and Naggie, get the hell out of my Lena scenes! Sit in the corner with your Snausages! look and stay away from my Polish Fox!

The fact that I was getting fed up with Bianca and that I actually liked the scenes with Michael just shows how much this show has screwed me up. I was laughing the whole time Mikey kept calling Bianca's baby "Tiger" and trying to tickle her belly. Sure he was creepy but hilarious! Yep, I'm a sicko. Sick, sick, sick.

Normally, I love Greenlee but her scenes bring me to snore (shout out to L Word forum). The only thing that can make me tune into her mineshaft scenes is if a crazed man comes along with a little white dog and instructs Greenlee to "place the lotion on your skin...or else you'll get the hose again."
jenmarie
Did anybody else think GnomeNaggie was gonna do a slow clap at the end of Bianca's speech?


YES! I was thinking later how relieved I was that they didn't employ the slow clap.

Ok, now that the Cambias SL is over, I what excuses McTrash will come up with keeping Lianca apart? Now there is really no reason that they shouldn't be together.
Black Knight
Yeah, and that was doubly difficult for Olga because she was out of focus, so she had to exaggerate her facial expression a bit more than she would have done otherwise, without making it look, well, exaggerated. Olga usually lets her eyes do the bulk of the work and in an out-of-focus shot, that doesn't work as well, so she had to fall back on other techniques.

It's a sign of a good actor when they don't zone out while in the background. Courtroom eps, or other large group eps, make it pretty easy to spot those who do. AMC, to its credit, has a huge number of actors that stay in character whether the camera's focusing on them or not.

Thank goodness Walt toned down his head-nodding, too. He did start a little bit while standing next to Eden, but very tiny head nods, for once. I almost wonder if someone had talked to him in advance and specifically warned him not to do that. That speech was hard enough without someone nodding his head maniacally. Eden must've rolled her eyes when she got the script. She did have the hardest part in trying to make all that "walk all over the courtroom talking to people" shit work because it's a totally unnatural and unrealistic set-up. And Eden's all about the naturalism in her acting.
Stewie
I am not at all satisfied - or pleased - with Bianca's speechifying: it was soulless and self-serving. I was hoping for something a bit more touching and a lot less sanctimonious.


Word CK. It was cringe worthy.

I only watched the first half of today's show. So when Assicle and Bianca were interacting did he look bruised up? Did the incident with David actually happen? Was that explained or ignored?

Eden must've rolled her eyes when she got the script. She did have the hardest part in trying to make all that "walk all over the courtroom talking to people" shit work because it's a totally unnatural and unrealistic set-up. And Eden's all about the naturalism in her acting


I agree. It seemed a bit forced to me. But I will re-watch again tonight and try not to make any harsh judgements.
Black Knight
So when Assicle and Bianca were interacting did he look bruised up? Did the incident with David actually happen? Was that explained or ignored?

Bianca said that Michael looked kind of shaken up or something when he answered the door. As far as we know the incident with David did happen--David did have that bruise, Erica did get Michael's gun and shoot Adam with it later, the timeline fits, and so on.

I agree. It seemed a bit forced to me.

It's also forced in that it's out of character for Bianca. She's no longer as painfully shy as when she first arrived at sixteen a few years ago, but she still doesn't like public attention. Bottom line is, she'd never walk around making a long uninterrupted speech to various people, especially with some non-friendly faces in the room. Someone like Erica would do that, but not Bianca.
Mystic0
It's also forced in that it's out of character for Bianca.


Word. Stupid writers. ('Cept Pervy, who is brilliant.)
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