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silentbob
So Mechanic Contrivance was Anita Santos? I had no idea (spoiler-free for the last few months now). She's really cute though. Decent actress, too. I would be on board with the return of Bobby, Kelsey, et al.

Speaking of which, I don't know what these spoilers are that made Mystic go EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! but they must be promising.
zandrian
Okay dumb question time,

I figured out who booberella was !duh! on me, but its been a hard week. TGIF

But who is BC? I really don't know.

And when will the stupid I fell down a well story end? come on, can't we find a better one, its' Natalie all over again without the great plot of Janet.
SFHagood
The recap for today over at Whoosh was comedy gold! My favorite parts involved Boyd, Queer as Folk and Aidan. Heh.

I hate that I missed the cheekbones of steel contest in the courtroom between Boyd and JR. Like JR could win that one. He so wants to be like Boyd, though, with the new highlights.

In tha hood!Kendall was cracking me up in her little hat.

Notice how Ryan is an ass even when Greenlee is suplying his lines. GAH!

zandrian, BC is the real life initials for the guy playing Paul Cramer.
gspiggott
According to the soap mags Bachelor Bob has moved in with Rebecca.He says he thinks of her Upper West Side apartment as his home, and Rebecca is welcome to call his suburban Michigan home hers. Greens gets a psychic connection with Ryan while Kendall gets Kinks .I wonder if Lil Budig ever thinks Alicia got the mine and she got the shaft.
CKD
I wonder if Lil Budig ever thinks Alicia got the mine and she got the shaft.


Heh. Heh. Bwah! God, that's funny.

Bachelor Bob has almost moved in? Shit, Rebecca has no taste. Shotgun lesbian, anyone?
SkiffyPup
Dear Rebecca,

I'm so very sorry for commenting about your incredibly loud pinging. If Mr. Frons made you do this ... well, there is no way I could possibly make it up to you. I'm Greenlee and you're Kendall IRL.

Re- BC:

http://www.soaptownusa.com/

David Tom (ex-Billy Y&R) seems to be following his sister. Tom will be assuming the part of Paul Cramer from departing portrayer Brock Cuchna. Big Sis may have had some input to this since she is Kelly — Paul's half-sister — An airdate has yet to be announced.


I wonder if crossover madness will be over by then?
jenmarie
He so wants to be like Boyd, though, with the new highlights.


I think JR just wants Boyd.
onewomanshow
If Mr. Frons made you do this ... well, there is no way I could possibly make it up to you. I'm Greenlee and you're Kendall IRL.


Oh, Skiffy, I believe we must all share the blame for this fiasco. Quite frankly, I now truly regret any and all insinuations that I have made about Ms. Budig in the past, here and elsewhere.

Rebecca? I think I speak for everyone when I say that we meant you no harm. I can only hope that this horrible episode will end soon and that you will accomplish all that you feel you must. Good-luck to you and, yes, even to your bear-boyfriend in all of your future endeavors.
allergic2love
I think JR just wants Boyd.


Is it so wrong I find that so incredibly hot?
katesus7
Well, as for the big "reveal" that Bianca is the killer? I guess that I'm just so jaded by this point that only one scenario would satisfy me. And, just for fun, here it is:

Bianca, Erica, Kendall, David, Adam, Palmer, Boyd, Reggie, Myrtle, Simone, Aiden(no, I don't know why he's included, he just is), Lena and Jack all showed up at Michael's apartment at the exact same moment, and they all conveniently had the exact same make and model of gun (I forgot about 4 months ago what that make and model was supposed to be). All at once, like they had been practicing, they shot Michael at the exact same moment. He didn't die from "a" bullet wound; he died from 13 bullet wounds.

All of them confess, and the jury, disgusted with the lot of them at this point, sentence every one of them to 40 years in prison. Kendall and Bianca share a jail cell, of course. The entire soap is changed to revolve around these 13 people. Greenlee, Tad, and Brooke (for some random reason), are allowed to visit every once in awhile. Everyone else is gone. Never to be heard from again. The entire soap is centered around the prisoners. Now THAT is a soap I would watch. Imagine the possibilities! And the HoYay! Of course, Kinks would finally reign supreme.
SkiffyPup
Men sucking in their cheeks like Tim Curry in "Rocky Horror" when they're supposed to be playing hot heterosexual soap characters?

Nope. Nothing wrong with that. (When could a Kinks shipper object to such a mild thing? When?!)
2deadcows
When I see "Boyd" on my monitor or Boyd on my TV screen, this is what immediately flashes through my mind. Sigh. *fans self* So, nope, allergic2love, not wrong at all.
desbronte
I really need to say this before I explode, I CAN NOT STAND RYAN! The best thing he ever did was ride off on that motorcycle of his last year. I actually did a happy dance when he left. I can't reach for my remote quickly enough to fast forward when he comes on the screen. Which is why I hate for him to have scenes with anyone I like. I have to listen to his screeching voice and see that dead stare he calls acting. It's just painful. Yet another reason for me to dislike McTavish, she brought the craptastic bastard back. Oh how I wish he would go away and stay away. But as long as he is Meg's wet dream and she is head writer, we are doomed to see him in almost every scene. Dear god, can someone make it stop. I offer my firstborn to whomever can rid us of McTavish, Frons, and Cameron Mathison. I know it's a tall order but you people are quite intelligent, if you really put your minds to it you can accomplish anything. Bloodshed optional.
KerleyQ
I do think a chemistry test is necessary, though. Lest we forget? Maidan? Maidan 2: Flooze Control?


Oh, I think it's necessary for new couples definitely--God forbid Maiden 3 makes an appearance. But, I don't think they need to be shopping Aidan around. They've already found someone he's got sizzling chemistry with--Kendall.

I was high fiving The Punisher yesterday, but come on, pick those nasty things for short "days" not one that's likely have me looking at the yellow maternity blouse of horror for a week. And Krystal? Nothing like being subtle in the "Hey check out my rack" department. There's alluring and there's trashy, guess which side Krystal landed on? And when did Paul do this turn around? He never once showed any interest in Boobe, and now all of a sudden, he's drunk and all over here? And they got married drunk? Apparently Paul suffers from alcohol induced heterosexuality.

Watching Ryan's end of the psychic connection is so freaking entertaining. Not in a "Wow he's really nailing this!" way, but in a "Holy crap he's bad at this!" kind of way. You almost can't tear your eyes away. What the hell is CM doing? Some bad imitation of Steve Martin in "All of Me"?? He does realize that he's just hearing her voice and not posessed by her, right?
jenmarie
Apparently Paul suffers from alcohol induced heterosexuality.


BWAH!
silentbob
I would TOTALLY watch the soap opera that katesus described.
dizzeelizzee
delurking to say....

Unshaved Boyd sitting in back of the courtroom looked damn hot!
I mean really HOT!

BTW, I love reading what you guys write......

fading to relurking status...........
Mystic0
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we're back. Yo, wrong day to go all dead on us, man.
Black Knight
Heh, Mystic0.

Well, today was a pretty good day -- no JR/Boobe/Jamie mess, no Greens/Ryan psychic connection, no Maurmund. A little Krystal, but I can't have everything.

The Lena/Naggie fight had me giggling from the second Lena snapped, "What?!" at Naggie. I do think Naggie was right in much of what she said, but the idea of Lena being scared of Naggie is just too funny. They hate each other to the point that even Bianca paid five seconds of attention in the middle of worrying about her mother and sister. Watching Lena cart the bags around was amusing--she was totally overloaded. That's what you get for being chivalrous, m'dear...good thing Bianca was too busy rushing for her cab to laugh at you.

Sammy's teleporter system must've been down today (along with the TWoP boards) because Binks actually took some time to get to the courtroom.

The courtroom stuff was too obviously dragged out -- what with all the constant objections. The judge's eternally futile quest to run a reasonable courtroom is a fun in-joke for me. Poor Hannah. She hasn't even been blasted with the full Kane Women effect yet.

Which brings me around to the Kane Women. The ep really started firing on all cylinders once Bianca kicked everyone except Kendall and Erica out. First Erica's confession--hilarious. It was classic in how she was so in love with the idea of herself as the Righteous Avenger, Bravely Protecting Both Her Daughters that she just could not let it go, even after everyone started shooting holes in it. (This is the sort of Erica-ism that would've annoyed me if she was the killer, but since she's not, I just laughed.)

Then Kendall doing her best to convince Erica and Bianca that she did it. Nice try, Kendall.

And then Erica and Kendall bickering over who's going to take the fall in the courtroom while Bianca's remembering the real truth. Heh. Classic. I love those Kane Women. I really enjoyed the look on Kendall's face once Bianca turned around and started talking. She knew exactly what Bianca had remembered and there was a affecting look of desolation on her face. Props to Alicia.

And finally...WHEEEEEE! Binks did it! Props to you, my girl. I like it because, among other things, it proves what Erica has always said: Never mess with a Kane Woman. In the end, it came down to a battle between Michael and Bianca. Yeah, he hurt her. But she walks off with his lover (both of them), his fortune, and his baby. He ends up in the Pine Valley dump. Ha. Should've never tried to go after the Kane Women, Mikey...you lost everything. And Bianca's the one who took it all. (high-fives Bianca)
Mystic0
Jeez, I would've happily sold my soul to have been spoiler free for this ep. silentbob, you must mentor me in your groovy spoiler free ways. I bet this ep really rocked if you didn't know what was coming. Damn me for spoiler ho-ing.

Which brings me around to the Kane Women. The ep really started firing on all cylinders once Bianca kicked everyone except Kendall and Erica out.


Word, they were awesome. The actresses really brought their A-game today. Alicia did some great physical work. Kendall nervously fretting in the background while eyeballing Bianca and Erica was spot on great. I loved it when she tried to block La Kane from leaving. Lucci, and I just can't get used to complimenting her, had the best reaction I've ever seen her do, right after Bianca gave her Kane family speech. Lucci had tears in her eyes! Real ones!! You go, Susan! Eden pretty much killed me. She had me on the ropes during the "I didn't want it to be you" part and finished me off in the closing scene. Damn good work by all.

Then Kendall doing her best to convince Erica and Bianca that she did it. Nice try, Kendall.


Hee! I loved that. It was extra funny because no one believed her for even a second. They know you've changed, Kendall. You can't just play the demon seed card anymore. I loved her for trying, though. Kendall is such a good GF. Trying to distract Bianca from remembering was so sweet.

Did anyone else see the teaser about Binks that followed OLTL? Ugh, no way am I gonna be able to watch Mikey smack Bianca around. I just can't do it.

ETA: Did anyone else lose it watching the dancing cowboy in the background during the Kad scenes? That freak was tearing it up!
Black Knight
Lucci had tears in her eyes! Real ones!! You go, Susan!

Heh. Someone finally got Susan to cry on cue. It figures that it was Eden...and yes, Eden did rock all through the episode. I like that Bianca knows how to deal with her nutty mother and sister, when it's time to cut through the craziness and get down to brass tacks. Ah, Kane Women. Love You. It came down to the three of them and it was only fitting. From the start of FEM, it was always about the Kane Women vs. Michael.

Funniest Hypocritical Line Ever--Erica telling Jack not to be melodramatic. BWAH!

I didn't see the promo after OLTL, Mystic0, though I'm sure I'll see it tonight (I Tivo OLTL too). But it won't bother me, because I know that she KILLS THAT BASTARD at the end of it. Ah, Bianca with a gun. Should be all kinds of inappropriately hot.

I'm still way too gleeful over The Fall of Michael Cambias and who handed his defeat to him. He thought he was on top of the world, what with daddy dying and owning Pine Valley and beating the rape charges, and Bianca knocked him right down. Whee! Burn in hell, Asscicle. (Not the Kinks hell, either.)

I wonder just how much badgering it's going to take from Erica and Bianca on Monday before Kendall gives up the good fight and finally admits she saw her sister running away that night. I don't think Kendall's going to throw her hands up easily. She's the best girlf--er, sister ever.
Mystic0
I didn't see the promo after OLTL, Mystic0, though I'm sure I'll see it tonight


Heh, I don't even watch OLTL but caught the promo by accident. It shows Bianca confessing to the judge and saying she should be punished, the icky Mikey stuff (Stop beating on Bambi, Asshat! It does show her blowing his ass away as he tries to molest her. Creep.), and a Kinks shot of Kendall protectively walking Binks into the court room. Hey, it's her turn to protect Binks from the reporters.

I forgot to mention, Bianca's little hand flex as she's holding the gun before Mikey lets her in cracked me up. I think Lianca just might be made for each other after all. Damn gun fondling fools...


If there's a silver lining in the Cambias ordeal for Bianca, it's that the saga has brought Bianca and Kendall closer together. "The underlying thread has been about these two girls who have discovered their love for each other," agrees Riegel.


Or maybe it's Kinks that are made for each other. Heh.
kariyaki
The courtroom stuff was too obviously dragged out -- what with all the constant objections.

I bet Leslie Hendrix had it easy memorizing her script that day. Practically her entire dialogue was, "I'm going to allow this." Reminded me of that episode of Futurama with that judge whose entire dialogue was that one sentence, no matter how crazy the courtroom shenanigans got.

I had no sympathy for Hannah's exasperation, even though I love her so. Doesn't a judge have the prerogative to clear the court if the bystanders are disruptive?

I think I might have sprained something laughing at Naggie threatening someone who not only is a foot taller than her but is a former corporate shark, among other things. Lena knows people, Nags, you shouldn't cross her. So your aunt was a psycho, that's not going to instill fear in people when you don't even top out at five feet tall.

And what was with Naggie's shirt? It was totally, "Hey, look at my boobs!" Although the fact that she wore it to see Bianca makes total sense, I guess...
Black Knight
Yeah, I noticed Naggie's choice of shirt too, kariyaki, and also concluded that it was because she was seeing Bianca that day. Clueless. The rack is not the way to Bianca. Hee. I can just see Boobe and Naggie sitting together trying to figure out why Bianca isn't pouncing all over them, while Kendall and Lena snicker and perfect their eyefucking technique some more.

"The underlying thread has been about these two girls who have discovered their love for each other," agrees Riegel.

Ohhhhhh yeah, she sees the SisYay. Eden could've phrased that sentence any of twenty other ways, and she's far too articulate for that to be accidental. Hee. D'ya think she and Alicia watch the scenes together and just laugh and talk about how to up the Pervy factor next time? If so, I'd give anything to be a fly on the wall.
Heathen
I'd like to shoot out some props to the hair folks at AMC -- Lucci's hair today (and in the other eps where she's had the same costume) finally looks very good, and they always get Kendall's curls perfect.

I loved the expressions when Erica "confessed" -- everyone looked like they were thinking, "Oh, LORD. This again?" But I add my compliments to the three Kane women. They're doing some terrific acting, especially together, and I'm NOT one who typically thinks Susan Lucci is a genius so she's particularly impressed me. I don't get why Carolyn Hinsey keeps mentioning Tad and Krystal first when she mentions the resurgence of the show -- I think she's just a Bobbie Eakes shipper from the B&B days, which I don't get either, but whatever. I think the real boon to the show has been how ER, AM, and SL have sold this whole Cambias murder storyline. Lesser actresses and lesser chemistry, and I wouldn't give a shit.
jenmarie
Even though I was spoiled, that was still a pretty good reveal. Then again, I haven't been watching this SL play out everyday for seven months, so I wasn't as tired of it as I'm sure other people were. As others have said ER, AM and SL rocked

The Lena/Naggie fight had me giggling from the second Lena snapped, "What?!" at Naggie. I do think Naggie was right in much of what she said, but the idea of Lena being scared of Naggie is just too funny.


Naggie was just annoying yippy little dog snapping at Lena's feet. I wanted Lena to kick her ass across the room.
gspiggott
CKD after reading your recap of AMC today I feel like the old Indian Chief in Little Big Man who took continuous hits off the peace pipe while saying,"My heart soars like the hawk" whenever Dustin Hoffmann made him proud.
CKD
CKD after reading your recap of AMC today I feel like the old Indian Chief in Little Big Man who took continuous hits off the peace pipe while saying,"My heart soars like the hawk" whenever Dustin Hoffmann made him proud.


So - are you saying that you're high?

Erica with real tears today: wow.
Bianca the killer: you know how I feel about that. That's right, I don't.

Today's episode in a nutshell: it was the last seven months compressed into 43 minutes.
gspiggott
Maybe, but you summed up this storyline better than anyone else that I've seen and for that huzzah to you.
CKD
Thank you! I wasn't exactly sure that I understood what you were saying (does she mean she needs to get stoned to read the recap 'cause it's so bad? Or does she mean it's good?), so I went for the cheap joke instead. 'Cause I'm slow. [hanging head]

Today's best line:

[Bianca: “Mom, is this because of the promise you made me? I made you swear that you wouldn’t let Kendall get convicted for something you did. Oh god. Mom, did I ruin your life to save Kendall?”
katesus7
OK, so when I first heard about the Krystal character, I was kind of excited. I like the actress that played Macy. But, after two weeks, I was done. Enough. I hated her so very much.

So, I started a drinking game - every time Krystal uttered the words "My little girl" or "baby-doll" I would drink. Well, on the plus side, I didn't mind Krystal so much, because by the end of any episode that she appread in, I was drunk off my butt. On the negative side, I don't want to become an utter alcoholic, so, I officially hate Krystal. A pox on her! And her boobs!

Erica completely kicked ass this episode. And it's been so long since I've been able to say this. And no Greenlee whining about being in a mine shaft. And no Ryan "reaction" shots. Good God, that is one bad actor.
Mystic0
I think the real boon to the show has been how ER, AM, and SL have sold this whole Cambias murder storyline. Lesser actresses and lesser chemistry, and I wouldn't give a shit.


Word. TPTB should just hand them beach houses, or whatever else they want, just as a thank you. I'm always amazed at how well the AMC cast can sell this stuff. I totally knew what was going to happen today and still got caught up in it.

Ohhhhhh yeah, she sees the SisYay.


Hee! Eden's completely lost any ability to talk about Alicia, Kendall, or Kinks without it sounding suggestive. I'm looking forward to hearing something from Alicia. Maybe she's still capable of playing it down in interviews, while playing it up on screen. I plan to watch Monday's show through my fingers, but I hope we get some Kinks out of it. That'll make me feel aaaaaaaaall better.
SkiffyPup
Word to the power of infinity for the Kane family performances today.

Re: Mags- Notice how she added extra attributes to Bianca's Zapruder description? "Tall ... mysterious." Just to make it sound more like Lena. Bianca did not list either one of those.

Lena exasperated is all kinds of hot. It's was like Bianca coat day. "What?!" Lawd.

ETA: eeeeeeeee! From Mediaweek:

"All My Children star Rebecca Budig has been named the new host of WE: Women Entertainment's Full Frontal Fashion, which kicks off its second season on Wednesday, March 24 at 10 p.m. ET."

"Each episode will feature top designers and distinguished fashion industry names like Glamour's Suze Yalof Schwartz and Style's Hal Rubenstein as they comment on the latest trends."
Mystic0
(tap tap tap)

Is this thing on???

Heh.
Black Knight
Heh, Mystic0. We're back in business!

Congrats to Rebecca on her new gig--now maybe she can drop the pretense with Bachelor Bob.

SkiffyPup, I noticed Maggie's embellishment of details too. The "mysterious" was one thing because she could have simply been referring to the fact the woman's identity was unknown, but I don't remember Bianca saying one single damn thing about "tall". In fact, she wouldn't have, even offscreen, because until the end, she was worried that she'd seen Erica.

Mystic0, I saw the teaser while watching OLTL. Now I'm really impatient for Monday to get here. We've got the three Kane Women still in the briefing room, all the actresses kicking ass, and a lot more material to get through. Erica isn't going to believe Bianca at first, and Kendall will probably take a while to break down and admit that she saw Bianca that night and it's all true. I'm particularly curious to see, in light of Kendall walking Bianca into the courtroom (awwwww, Kinks protectiveness), how that comes about. Kendall and Erica's initial reaction has got to be one of "tie Binks up, gag her, and throw her on Palmer's jet" instead of letting her confess. Bianca must do one hell of a talking job to convince them to let her go into the courtroom. And during her confession--there's Lena (yaaay!) filling up the background behind her, but where's Kendall and Erica? Hmmm. I could see Erica fainting and thus missing the entire thing, but Kendall would not leave her girlfister's side at this particular point in time without a damn great reason.

It's absolutely inappropriate for me to say this given the context of the scene, but that shot of Bianca getting up, from the floor or sofa or whatever, with mussed hair and a pissed look on her face, is all kinds of hot. It'll be a hard scene to watch, though. I noticed that Mikey's got his hand on her right shoulder again, which is a nice nod to continuity. Earlier that night she freaked out when Maggie touched her there--it's a trigger for her.


Remember when the Punisher was doing an interesting nod to "firsts" with clothing--Kendall/Ryan talking about some first or other, and then Kendall dreaming of Mikey in the clothes he was wearing when she first met him, and at one point she was also wearing the shirt that IIRC, kariyaki said that she wore when she had her first fight with Bianca. It was some first that was associated with Bianca, I remember that much for sure. Both clothing firsts tied to the two people who have absolutely driven Kendall's thoughts and actions for all those months. Well, the Punisher's doing it again--I recognized Lena's shirt. It's from the purple outfit she wore the morning after she and Bianca first made love. Very appropriately significant for this particular show day, what with the Michael vs. Bianca battle that began when Lianca fell in love coming to an ultimate head.

We've talked about Kendall trying to convince Erica and Bianca that she killed Michael, but rewatching, I was reminded of what kariyaki said once about Kendall, that if Kendall ever told the truth she'd probably burst into flames. I just love how Kendall can say with a straight face "I've been lying to everyone all along, but now this is the truth" and promptly reel off a whole new batch of lies. Hee. Her reaction shot when Bianca says that Erica didn't kill Michael is probably the best reaction shot I've ever seen from Alicia--Kendall's just devastated. Along similar lines, I really loved Eden's reaction shot when Erica tells Kendall that if she doesn't get a mistral, she'll get death--Bianca just tears up so fast and spins off into her final panic state of trying to remember what happened. Those two reaction shots aren't exactly the fun Pervy Kinks SisYay we're used to, but they really do show how much these two love each other.

One last comment: It's no secret Eden's an excellent crier, but man, she had red eyes at the end of Friday. Amazing.
SkiffyPup
and a red nose, BK.
And a look on her face that said: Fall on my cheek, damn tear. Now. Fall, you little fucking tear. c'mon.
(Eden has some amazing lashes, man.)
Black Knight
Heh, SkiffyPup. Yes, Eden excels at the one-tear thing (and I noticed she's teaching Alicia, too), and I have no idea how she times that stuff. The tear always hangs on her lash and then falls at just the right second to punctuate the scene. The classic example has got to be when we first saw Bianca post-Voldemort, when the camera did that very long, slow zoom in on her, and the tear fell at the end.

I didn't see the red nose because I was far too busy peering into those beautiful brown eyes. We don't usually get that extreme a close-up. I'll have to tear myself away from the eyes long enough to check out the nose.

Red eyes, red nose, tears, chin quivers all on cue--shit. No wonder AMC always has Bianca so miserable. They aren't going to waste that kind of crying ability.
SkiffyPup
I think the tears are proptears, at least in this one case (viscosity- I notice.) and the rest is her acting ability, JMO.
Mystic0
I saw the teaser while watching OLTL. Now I'm really impatient for Monday to get here.


Well, you can have the whole brain Monday. Since I'll be in the fetal position, I won't need it. Bwah to you, anyway. When I saw that one shot in the teaser you mentioned, I totally thought to myself, "Man, Black Knight's gonna be diggin' on that!". Hee! Since we're being shallow, as much as I want Binks to hurry up and have Kendall Jr. so she can get her cute clothes back, I'm gonna miss Binky's parade of *rowr* coats. How many does girlfriend own anyway?

if Kendall ever told the truth she'd probably burst into flames


And damn if I don't love her all the more for it. Again, it cracked me up that she dusted off her old "I'm evil!" speech and no one believed a word of it. Kendall, I heart you, baby. Ooh, and word on the great reaction shot from Alicia. That rocked, man. It kills me that Alicia will probably be ignored by the Emmy peeps. I wish there were an award for consistent good work, she'd totally net that sucker. In Friday's ep, she didn't really have the flashier part, but her acting choices rocked. I loved the fretting in the background.

It's no secret Eden's an excellent crier, but man, she had red eyes at the end of Friday. Amazing.


Eden's a disturbingly good crier. I don't know how she does it. Dude, I feel for poor Mom of Eden. Between the huge doe eyes and the ability to cry at the drop of a hat, I bet Eden got away with murder. Now, if only Bianca will. (rim shot)

(Quickly running away from bad joke)
I can't wait to see how the Kane dynamics shake out. Erica's days of being able to exclude Kendall are over. Bianca simply won't have it. Bianca's dragging Kendall into every conversation with Erica and has said that she loves Kendall enough times that Erica can't even ignore it. Hee! Kinks are a package deal and Erica's gonna have to deal with it. Then there's the fact that Bianca has fallen from grace in Erica's eyes. I can't wait until that gets fleshed out. Binky didn't look too happy with Erica when they were first facing off after everyone but Kendall left the room. (Side note: Kendall's "I'm not leaving!" was too cute.) Bianca's gotta be hurt about Erica dissing her at the hospital. Plus, Kinks will have Erica the Lush to look forward to. Yes, those crazy Kanes have sooooo much fun ahead!
Black Knight
I enjoyed Kendall's "I'm not leaving!" too, and notice Bianca didn't argue with her about it. Obviously "alone" to her means her and Kendall as a package deal. Heh.

I'm really hoping AMC stops short of a full-blown Erica the Lush SL. I simply don't have the strength for it. AMC would be much better off sticking to the psychological study of the Kane Women that it's been doing so far, without throwing another addiction for Erica into the mix.

Since we're being shallow, as much as I want Binks to hurry up and have Kendall Jr. so she can get her cute clothes back, I'm gonna miss Binky's parade of *rowr* coats. How many does girlfriend own anyway?

I actually let out a screech of horror when I saw Bianca's coat on Friday. I'm not completely sure if it's the same one, but at the very least it's damn similar to the same one that she wore all the time a couple of years ago, whether it went with her clothes or not. She never went anywhere without it, heck, she even took that stupid coat up to the witness stand with her while testifying in Erica's murder trial. I had hoped Eden had stolen the coat out of wardrobe and burned it. I mean, there's nothing wrong with the coat, it's a perfectly nice coat, but she just wore it so much that now I instinctively recoil whenever I see it (or something similar) make a return. I really wish they had put her in either the denim or black coat she wore to court.

I bet Eden got away with murder. Now, if only Bianca will. (rim shot)

Heh. That reminds me, I've wondered for a while if AMC had a reason for casting such a good character actress--one who's associated with a rival network's show--as a tertiary character. I have a feeling we're about to find out why, especially as this is the same judge that presided at Michael's rape hearing. I also noticed that Bianca's suddenly looking much more pregnant. I bet her pregnancy plays into it all--yeah, it doesn't prove rape per se, but it does prove sexual intercourse, when Michael was claiming he'd never touched her. And Alan Singer doesn't seem like the type of DA who'd throw a 20-year-old pregnant rape victim in jail. I thought it was interesting that he offered a ten-year manslaughter deal, also eliminating the perjury and obstruction of justice charges that she'd been absolutely nailed on, to Kendall at the point when her defense had blown up completely, as if he had some latent sympathy for her over offing her sister's rapist.

When I saw that one shot in the teaser you mentioned, I totally thought to myself, "Man, Black Knight's gonna be diggin' on that!".

Hee, I'm so predictable, I guess. When I saw that, I thought to myself, "Bianca can look at me like that anytime." Good thing I'm not dating her, I suppose. My self-preservation instinct would go out the window.
kariyaki
I agree with you Black Knight. What's been cool about this whole trial is that Hannah and Exeter are completely non-biased as far as this case goes (as opposed to, say, Tarzan). They obviously have no real desire to punish the hell out of Asscicle's killer, they're just doing their jobs. I'm betting that once all the cards are FINALLY out on the table, they'll be as lenient to Bianca as the law will let them.
Mystic0
(gasp) PToS??? I don't think so!

I'm really hoping AMC stops short of a full-blown Erica the Lush SL.


A million times WORD! I'm really psyched at how they've been handling Erica so far. Now, if only TPTB can resist the temptation to screw it up. A character study of La Kane's warped psyche is playing just fine without a melodramatic alcoholic twist.

And Alan Singer doesn't seem like the type of DA who'd throw a 20-year-old pregnant rape victim in jail.


If Binks confesses will Singer have to prosecute? I mean, can you just ignore a confession? Wouldn't it have to got to trial? I agree that given the choice, he'd probably not pursue taking Bianca to trial. I don't see a jury throwing Bianca into the clink, especially since there's no shortage of people to testify how vile Mikey was. If all three Kane women end up confessing, will that muddle things so much that no one ends up being charged? Lampert might be sympathetic enough to Kendall's reasoning that she could just give her community service for perjuring herself on the stand. In PV you can get community service for damn near anything, right?

I wonder how long it will take for Binks to sign Fusion back over to Kendall? Hee! Imagine Greens finally getting out of the mine, only to find that Kendall, Simone, and (ugh) Mia have made up and Kendall owns the joint! (snicker) That's gonna be sweet.
Black Knight
A character study of La Kane's warped psyche is playing just fine without a melodramatic alcoholic twist.

Exactly. An alcoholism story would push the character study and relationships with her daughters into the background and make it All. About. Erica. Again. (And not even about Erica, exactly, but her addiction. Which has been done before.) There's no need to do it. This is the most interesting material Erica's gotten in years, possibly ever, and AMC can make hay for months simply on scenes between Erica and her daughters and probing into Erica's psyche.

If Binks confesses will Singer have to prosecute? I mean, can you just ignore a confession?

If Singer decides that it was self-defense, then no crime has been committed, so he doesn't have to do a damn thing. Yes, murder cases are prosecuted in which self-defense is used as a defense, but those are cases where the DA's office feels that the defendant is lying about it being self-defense.

If all three Kane women end up confessing, will that muddle things so much that no one ends up being charged?

That reminds me, I do wonder if Kendall putting her fingerprints on the murder weapon will play in. There has to be a reason why AMC bothered with that whole business of Aidan finding Reggie's gun and then Kendall firing it. It certainly wasn't for audience edification, since we knew from the very start that Bianca had access to Reggie's gun and that her fingerprints would've been on it because she had disposed of it that night.

Lampert might be sympathetic enough to Kendall's reasoning that she could just give her community service for perjuring herself on the stand. In PV you can get community service for damn near anything, right?

Kendall can get a mistrial based on what's already happened in court. At that point it's not really up to Lampert, it's up to Singer, since he would need to re-file the case. And if he's sympathetic, he can cut a deal with her on the perjury that means no jail time.

I wonder how long it will take for Binks to sign Fusion back over to Kendall? Hee!

It'll be an interesting test of Greenlee's newfound maturity to see how she reacts. Kendall might give Greenlee half ownership of Fusion back. Or not. It'll probably depend on Greenlee's behavior after she gets out of the mineshaft.
bonobochick
Any one else find the Ryan/ Greenlee psychic connection a crock of shit? I mean the pairing of them is too offensive to my senses. ick!

I liked that Aidan kicked Mia to the curb (again!!!). That was nice. And she once again proved her stupidity by thinking(?) she had a chance. dumbass.

And I am really surprised Kendall accepted both Mia and Simone's apologies. Simone's I could understand cause she really didn't do much to hurt Kendall, but Mia... I would never want that girl again as my friend after the crap she pulled. WTF? Why did Kendall accept it?
Mystic0
That reminds me, I do wonder if Kendall putting her fingerprints on the murder weapon will play in.


Could be. Unfortunately, I can't pitch in and spec because my brain is now stuck in rewind and focusing on how cute that scene was. Dude, I love how Kendall's mind works. Who else would immediately just grab the piece and fire it into the air? Hee! Then Aidan goes and dials up the cuteness to ten by imitating the losers that inhabit the Pine Cone. Awwww. Damn, I loved that scene.

It'll probably depend on Greenlee's behavior after she gets out of the mineshaft.


Well, I believe that Greens will be all good and contrite, but she's also going to be all over Ryan, which will endear her to Kendall not at all. Dunno how all that will pan out.

Any one else find the Ryan/ Greenlee psychic connection a crock of shit?


Add 'badly acted by Cam crock of shit', and I'm right there with ya.

WTF? Why did Kendall accept it?


I think Kendall being on trial for her life probably made her a bit more forgiving than she would have been otherwise.

Oh, and kariyaki? That 'Mia's wayward brain' thing *never* gets old. Hee!
Black Knight
bonobochick, I'm choosing to fanwank that Kendall accepted Mia's apology because at that moment, she had very few of her supporters in the courtroom and she was feeling hella isolated while facing the ordeal of testifying again. Bianca was stuck in the hospital, Lena only comes to court when she knows Bianca is going to be there, and Jack, Erica, Boyd, Aidan, Reggie and Ryan (who she'd broken up with, to boot) hadn't arrived yet.

Add 'badly acted by Cam' crock of shit, and I'm right there with ya.

And not even badly acted in an amusing way. Cam's just useless.

Well, I believe that Greens will be all good and contrite, but she's also going to be all over Ryan, which will endear her to Kendall not at all. Dunno how all that will pan out.

Exactly. Maybe Greenlee can get 50% ownership back from Kendall in the five minutes of contrition and friendship she displays before draping herself all over Ryan again. Or maybe not. It does all depend on timing--Bianca's certainly going to give Fusion back to Kendall as soon as she can, but she's also just a teeny bit busy at the moment. And Bianca will never give 50% ownership to Greenlee unless Kendall specifically asks her to, so we're just going to have to see how the order of events plays out. If Ryan's the one who finds and rescues Greenlee, her window of opportunity to make nice with Kendall is probably nonexistent. One word of that psychic connection BS and Kendall will go nuts.

It's really a lot more likely that Kendall keeps Fusion in entirety and keeps Greenlee on at Simone and Mia's begging. But I did also read from Katrina at Eye on Soaps, who isn't always accurate, but anyway, for what it's worth--that Fusion will fade into the background altogether because the show's having too much trouble figuring out how to keep these four women together.
jenmarie
Imagine Greens finally getting out of the mine, only to find that Kendall, Simone, and (ugh) Mia have made up and Kendall owns the joint! (snicker) That's gonna be sweet.


Not only that, but by the time Greenlee gets out of the mine, everything Kendall did to protect Bianca will be known to everyone, and Kendall will have gone from town pariah to town hero.

And not even badly acted in an amusing way. Cam's just useless.


Well it was sort of amusing, Cam was acting like Ryan had the runs.
Black Knight
Actually, the thing I find funniest is that all this will have been wrapped up, most likely, by the time Greenlee gets out. She'll rush to find out what happened with Kendall and the trial, and to make amends, and get a "Meh. That's old news."
silentbob
I was completely unspoiled for Binky as the killer -- my reaction to the ending would've been "meh" if the Kane women scenes weren't so spectacularly acted. Excellent job, as always.

you must mentor me in your groovy spoiler free ways

No secret, Mystic. Just been swamped at work preparing for a trial (not murder and no Judge Snarky, sorry), so little time to read these boards enough to be tempted.

I am also strongly opposed to an alcoholism storyline, for the same reasons others have stated already. Besides, more Erica means less Pervy.
kariyaki
Oh, and kariyaki? That 'Mia's wayward brain' thing *never* gets old. Hee.

I know. I was forever changing my usertag until I hit that one. It cracks me up every time. Although a new one has been spinning around in my head. Kind of an Angel quote homage: "Pet Mia, she's a whore."
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