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Mystic0
Is some random tool bothering you? I'll roast her for you, I swear! [Could be a 'him,' but what are the chances?]


My hero! Hee, don't sweat it, man. I think someone misinterpreted my posts as anti-Lena, which was never my intent. I *like* Lena, just not the popular version of her that's bandied about. I remember once we talked about a group culture and how it forms. Suddenly, everyone thinks the same way and feels the need to defend that one way as right. That's happened with the Lianca fan base to a certain extent. You absolutely have to be 90% a Lena fan and 10% percent a Bianca fan (and that's only because you need Bianca for Olga's job security and to have a girl for Lena to shag, of course.) Since that's not my way of looking at it, I find myself getting the occasional irate email. No big.

On topic, I'm a little nervous about the Murder Mystery being wrapped up. It's scary to think of what McT will fill up that empty space with. More Boobe Saga? Maria/Edmund and his paralysis? Ryan/Greenlee? Tad's cadding? Maggie's journey around the world to figure out she is straight.......again? You know, that baby switch doesn't sound so bad now. Sorry Binks, tormenting you is a small price to pay to avoid all that. Mmmmm..........Kinks comfort bonding.

ETA:
I saw pics of Finola Hughes at some rap event.


Oddly enough, I could see Finola fitting right in. She's cool like that.

ETA2: Zee boards are back! Zee boards are back!
DrCher
From TV Guide:
MENARD, GRIFFIN OFF AMC
It's the end of the line for All My Children's Marc Menard and Dax Griffin. Both actors have been let go from the show, TV Guide Online has learned. An ABC rep confirms that Griffin's exit is storyline dictated. Menard joined the AMC cast in December 2002 as sexy chemist Boyd Larraby, who enjoyed a brief interlude with Kendall, but quickly found himself on the back Bunsen burner. Griffin snagged a recurring role as Jackson's feisty lawyer Justin McCoy in August 2003.
Though the loss of two men doesn't bode well for AMC's female-heavy cast (who all seem to be after Tad anyway!), sources say that the show may bolster its male quotient with a recast of Bobby Warner, last seen in Pine Valley in 1997.
Black Knight
Yay, the boards are back! I was in withdrawal. Of course, I also managed to get a lot of work done...

Since that's not my way of looking at it, I find myself getting the occasional irate email.

Heh. I wonder if I've got any in the 600+ unread e-mails in my in-box. Checking my personal e-mail only once in a blue moon does have its advantages.

You know, that baby switch doesn't sound so bad now. Sorry Binks, tormenting you is a small price to pay to avoid all that. Mmmmm..........Kinks comfort bonding.

Heh. Well, it'd at least keep two of the most talented actresses on the show frontburner. For all McTrash's faults, I do think she's been very smart about one thing--Alicia, Eden and Rebecca all work nonstop. There are excellent younger actresses sprinkled around daytime, but I can't think of any soap that can boast a trio of younger actresses that compares to the Alicia/Eden/Rebecca triumvirate AMC's lucky enough to have. The problem is, of course, that they need better SLs.

Anita runs into Aidan when she returns into town. Gag. I want Kaidan, dammit!

The spoilers for the week of February 23rd have Kendall begging Ryan to take her back (obviously she's off the hook for Michael's killing). Sigh. Greenlee's still stuck in the mineshaft.


ETA: So, according to Ryan in the previews, it is Jack's fault that Greenlee exposed Kendall? Leaving aside the question of Greenlee's own stupidity and self-absorption (which she's taken responsibility for), I seem to recall it was Ryan who spent half an hour ripping Greenlee apart over Fred Lomax. Plus Jack only knew about the whole baby scam for what, 24 hours? Ryan knew for months. Shut up, Ryan.
Mystic0
Weird ep today. It was like filler with a dab of excellence thrown in. The excellence, you ask? The Erica/Kendall stuff. Y'all know I hate Erica, but I've never found her as interesting as I do now. Lucci is just kicking all kinds of ass. The current dynamics of LaKane and her daughters are just...wow. Someone, and I sure as hell ain't crediting McT, is handling things pitch perfect. Erica's sticking to her guns about her shitty ways but is stepping up in a good way in some areas. She's beyond pissed at her kids, but isn't going to let Kendall fall on her sword. It's a complicated mess but it's ringing true. I can't seem to articulate what I want to say, so I'll move along. Heh.

I don't think it will ever get old watching Maggie disappear into the background when Lianca are flirting in that bizarre way of their's. It cracks me up every single time.

We learned another Montgomery trait today. Besides being a pyro and interrupting their parent's sexcapades, Montgomery women can sleep through anything. How Greens could doze through Ryan's bellowing is beyond me. Props to Rebecca for making Greenlee's grousing mildly amusing, even though it was sucking screen time from more important things.

We get Kinks Monday! Yay!

Alicia, Eden and Rebecca all work nonstop.


Thank Pervy! All three are rocking da house.

Oh, and thanks, Seneca. You rock. :)
kariyaki
Heh. Pervy is having even Erica bring the Kinks. "Most sisters share clothing but you two..." Go on, Erica, fill in the blank. I dare you!

Ooh, check out this screencap I found. Oink away, all.

Oh man, and this one's priceless.
seneca724
You're welcome Mystic. The Lianca fans should be happy today, they received an audible kiss and both Bianca and Lena emitted simultaneous moans! The moment was almost as hot as a chin chuck.
2deadcows
I only saw a few minutes of today's ep, but of what I did see? And I never thought I'd say this, but -- Shut up, Lena. Shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up! Gah. It's nice to know that your inner pit bull is alive and well, but don't waste it on Naggie for cryin' out loud. And, for the love of all that is good and schmoopy, don't waste your precious Binky Alone Time wading through the quicksand of Naggie Issues. Make hay while the sun is shining, HPF!

How Greens could doze through Ryan's bellowing is beyond me.

Hee! And Word. But I'd change "bellowing" to "screeching." CamMat is physically incapable of bellowing. ;)

bellow -
1. To make the deep roaring sound characteristic of a bull.
2. To shout in a deep voice
.

Geez, I'm almost 2 weeks behind on my soap watching. The prospect of sitting through/FF nearly 20 hours of tape is intimidating. Usually when I get to that mark, I just record over the whole mess and forget about it. But in this case I have the favorable reviews of two threads (AMC and ATWT) ringing in my ears over the fabulousness that was. Decisions, decisions.
Black Knight
Ooh, check out this screencap I found. Oink away, all.

Oink oink oink! Sigh. It'll surprise no one to hear I just adored the Binky-disrobing part of that scene. So it's doubly nice to see a screencap of it... ;)

I had to PBP it today (short week next week means more work today), but Erica's way of handling things seemed really interesting indeed. I don't mind her bitching about her daughters keeping the pregnancy from her--it's a perfectly fair and valid point.

"Most sisters share clothing but you two..." Go on, Erica, fill in the blank. I dare you!

Heh. If only. She so knows what's going on between them.

The Lianca interaction sounded cute and there were tons of screencaps on Olga's board in no time at all that were adorable--so I look forward to watching tonight. I noticed Bianca said, in regards to Lena's gift, that she hoped it was romantic--yeah, she's really interested in Naggie. (I'm sure the Retcon 32 has some amusing explanation, though.) Point of annoyance, though--it's still the same day in showtime, but we've switched from Bianca's birthday to Valentine's Day. Reminds me of when one of JER's soaps--I think it was Passions--ran a show day so long that the day included both Thanksgiving and Christmas celebrations.

Yay, Kinks Monday, since we didn't get much of it today according to the PBP (which, granted, doesn't do shit with the subtext). Kendall asking Erica to love Bianca and her baby did make me tear up ever so slightly--gee, and that was just reading the PBP. I'm sure Alicia kicked ass today.
Mystic0
Heh. Pervy is having even Erica bring the Kinks. "Most sisters share clothing but you two..." Go on, Erica, fill in the blank. I dare you!


Hee! I'm glad Kendall was running with the Kinks too. "Take care of her for me, Jack. Us! I meant us." Yeah, sure ya did. I got a chuckle out of Kendall saying that something 'healed' between her and Binks that day at the clinic. Heal means to cure, right? That clinic scene sure 'cured' me of my lifelong aversion to televised incest. *rowr* Ah, the clinic scene, where Kinks was first born.

The moment was almost as hot as a chin chuck.


Bwah! They were too cute today. Happy Lianca and miserable Maggie........today was a good day. All hail, Pervy!

Black Knight, it looks like you were right about Lena being at Binky's 24/7. How else would she be aware of the fact that Maggie hasn't been home much. Stake out your territory, HPF! I didn't really get Lena's interest in Maggie today either, 2deadcows, especially since Bianca wasn't paying Mags any attention. "No, we don't need anything." says Binky, Mags leaves, and Lena forgets to get her mack on, dammit. These people never do what I tell them to! Hmph.

ETA:
Oink oink oink! Sigh. It'll surprise no one to hear I just adored the Binky-disrobing part of that scene.


Bwah! She's gotta have the baby soon so you can get your oink on properly.

I'm sure Alicia kicked ass today.


She did. I think you'll like the Erica/Kendall stuff today, it had a really different vibe about it. Erica was reassuring to Kendall in a way but was still slightly cruel in others. Erica gave exactly as much ground as she wanted to and no more. It was interesting.
Black Knight
I only saw a few minutes of today's ep, but of what I did see? And I never thought I'd say this, but -- Shut up, Lena. Shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up! Gah. It's nice to know that your inner pit bull is alive and well, but don't waste it on Naggie for cryin' out loud.

Heh. Yeah, I thought the same. I realize it's probably her Gamer!Lena side trying to get as much info as she can so she can determine how the land lies--she's no doubt worried that Naggie's going to decide that she wants Bianca, but...Naggie can't force Bianca to be interested in her, and Bianca did absolutely nothing to indicate today that she was interested in Naggie and not Lena. I think Lena should've left it alone today at least--especially as seeing how Bianca is supposed to be trying to keep her stress level down--and just concentrated on maximizing her Valentine's Day time with Bianca.
amybeth5251
RE: Spoiler that either Kendall, Erica, or Bianca killed Michael.

I still have a theory that Kendall will be aquitted for killing Micheal by Jackson's game of reasonable doubt, i.e. parading everyone who had a motive for Killing Micheal through the courtroom. Then, as the verdict is announced, and everyone is hugging and the like, Kendall will have a flashback to a confrontation with Micheal that shows her telling him he won't get away with raping her sister, and then, she pulls the trigger. Cut back to a happy Kendall in the courtroom, rendered innocent of the charges and knowing that she can't be tried again.
Black Knight
Well, from what I'm piecing together, it looks like this to me: The Friday spoilers say that Erica testifies that day, and Bianca insists on going to the courtroom. (I guess Kendall/Jack/etc. tell her earlier in the week that because of her scare she needs to stay away from the trial.) Also going on that day is Tad finding a witness that apparently saw what really happened. We also have that AMC ad that says "Three confessions. One killer." Earlier in the week Erica updates her will and tells Tad that she thinks she killed Michael.

So, my guess is that Erica confesses on the stand on Friday. Bianca, listening to everything, remembers that she herself killed Michael. She confesses. Kendall freaks out after one or the other of those confessions and confesses herself. So there's the three confessions. Then Tad hauls his witness into the courtroom to confirm which of the Kane Women's confessions is the true one.

That reminds me, here's possibly the most pointless spoiler ever as far as next Friday is concerned, given that we know now that one of the Kane Women killed the Asscicle: Maggie accuses Lena that same ep of having murdered Michael. Whatever. At least it'll give Lena a good reason to kick her ass.
kariyaki
I still have a theory that Kendall will be aquitted for killing Micheal by Jackson's game of reasonable doubt, i.e. parading everyone who had a motive for Killing Micheal through the courtroom. Then, as the verdict is announced, and everyone is hugging and the like, Kendall will have a flashback to a confrontation with Micheal that shows her telling him he won't get away with raping her sister, and then, she pulls the trigger. Cut back to a happy Kendall in the courtroom, rendered innocent of the charges and knowing that she can't be tried again.

THAT is my ideal resolution to this whole thing. A way to have a major character be the killer and not have to cart said character off to the clink: double jeopardy.
Sappy
BK, your theory is confirm.

From Eye on Soaps- Scoop-a-holics

AMC: Just as reliable comes this info...two confessions show up on the Michael Cambias killing. Erica confesses in court that she is actually the one who killed Michael, but Tad has proof that Erica didn't do it.

Next, Bianca confesses to Erica and Kendall that SHE is the one who murdered Michael! She at least BELIEVES she did it. She was at the penthouse with Reggie guarding her, then when Reggie fell asleep, Bianca took his gun from him. What came next we'll wait to see!


Also on AMC, Marc Menard has been let go as Boyd Laramy and Dax Griffin is out as Justin McCoy (long haired lawyer).
daniel82
Black Knight speculates.....

[...] Erica confesses on the stand on Friday. Bianca, listening to everything, remembers that she herself killed Michael. She confesses. Kendall freaks out after one or the other confessions and confesses herself.

And Bill Cullen is resurrected from the grave to burst into the courtroom and announce the revival of his classic game show, "To Tell the Truth".

"Will the real murderer of Michael Cambias....please stand up?"
2deadcows
"Facts" aside, I like amybeth5251's spec better, Black Knight. ;) Also, that Naggie spoiler? "Whatever" is right. I would so not mind watching Lena deliver another Naggie smackdown (the NYE spider/fly couch scene still makes me grin). Heh. And just think how great the smackdown would be if Lena knew about the kissault (great word, btw). Oh, well, it's fun to speculate on the many ways in which Lena could kick the Naggster's ass for the cumulative crap she's pulled, but I don't think we'll see it. Probably just a denial , a how could you still think that?, another shot of LongSuffering!Lena, aaannnd End of Scene.

Myrtle killed Asscicle! [bitter resignation] Okay, the handwriting is pretty clear by now that she didn't, but Myrtle better have been involved in some way, dammit. [/bitter resignation]

I'm really not keen to watch the Greenlee self-destruction of the past week. But it's nice to know, going in, that she's already somewhat redeemed herself. I don't know what's worse, Greenlee being written as an unsympathetic idiot -- not realizing/caring that her antics could deeply hurt Kendall's defense and failing to consider the far-reaching effects on Bianca and Jackson, her new family -- or that she's doing it out of some misguided loyalty/feelings of lurve for (gag) RYAN. Grr. McHack sucks.

ETA: Damn you, Sappy. Damn yooooouuuuuu! *shakes fist Snoopy style*
CKD
Oh thank god the forums are back!

Lena and Bianca. I don't know what to say: they flirt horribly and they suck me back in anyway: I hate you both.

Erica - LaLucci is kicking some serious ass: I am terrifically impressed.

Kendall - heh, she so brought the Kinks today! "Take care of her for me. For me? I mean us." That wasn't Pervy: that was all Alicia!

Ah, Kinks.

Maggie: she blabs about Jamie, but all I hear is "I swing for penis. Not gay. Penis." Whatever.

ETA: 2deadcows, Myrtle so did it. Sniff.
Black Knight
Lena and Bianca. I don't know what to say: they flirt horribly and they suck me back in anyway: I hate you both.

Heh. That's chemistry for you. And they both know how to be adorable. I've still got their View appearance on tape somewhere.

Kendall - heh, she so brought the Kinks today! "Take care of her for me. For me? I mean us." That wasn't Pervy: that was all Alicia!

They both seem to be tripping up recently. First we had that "Kendall's baby--I should say, my baby" from Eden, then Alicia says "Bianca wants me--she wants me to be happy", then this. Hee. Of course, a while ago during the sonogram ep, Kendall said "our girl" and didn't even bother to backpedal. After all, only Frankenbrow and Helen were there.

Kendall asks Reggie on Monday to take care of Bianca for her. Can't wait to hear how she phrases it.
Mystic0
Lena and Bianca. I don't know what to say: they flirt horribly and they suck me back in anyway


Yup, I really liked Bianca's momentary WTF? look when she saw her present. Hee! She was expecting some bling but instead got something to pacify Bling. I was rollin', man.

Kendall - heh, she so brought the Kinks today!


She did! I already gave my Kendall props for her bringing the Kinks today in another post but I had to chime in again. You go, Kendall!

Speaking of Kendall props, she cracked me up when she was letting Jack try to distract Binks from Erica's avoidance. Then she couldn't stop herself and went off on a Erica rant while Jackson glared at her. Hee! Love that girl and her lack of impulse control.

ETA: There's also a spoiler saying Ryan signs over control of all the Cambias loot to Binks. Yay! Tear some shit up, Binks!
kariyaki
Ooh, I found some quite Kinksy screencaps. Check them out from about the fifth one on down.
Black Knight
Great, the site's on overload. Now we'll have to wait to get our fill of Kinksy screencaps...Damn!
Mystic0
Ooh, I found some quite Kinksy screencaps.


(breaks land speed record clicking)

Noooooooooooooooooooooooo! Page temporarily unavailable??? Bastards! Was the pre-explosion cappy in there? Please??

Heh.

ETA: Hee, Black Knight.
kariyaki
That damn site is geocities. They suck. It'll be back up within the hour. The cap was of Kendall doing a bellyrub on Bianca and gazing up at her lovingly. Then there was another one where I swear Kendall is doing a rack-check.
holdencaulfield2003
Re AMC Daytime Emmy nods I just read in Soap Opera Weekly that Micheal Knight did not submit his name for the race.
luv2surf
On the Argh!BabySwap foreshadowing front: today Erica makes Kendall say "you would do anything for Bianca?" and Kendall says "Yes, I would do anything for my family"

I'm paraphrasing but I think we all know where this is heading. Let me just: Noooooo! Ah, that's better. Megan you mofo. And not the good incest kind. God I can't believe I said that.
Erica's going to twist Kendall into her plot, either Kendall will do something for Erica unwittingly participating in the babyswap, where she thinks she's acting for Binky's best interests.
Or else Erica will convince her to come around and agree to help. But I don't see the latter after Kendall's insistance in the baby being good and good for Bianca.

BTW-ITA on the scenes with Erica and Kendall. I was skating a fine line with Erica, but at the end she impressed me with the fact that for once we had a complex Erica who wasen't just ragingly bad or unwaveringly supportive, but somewhere in between. Mad props to LaLucci.

On the rack-check tip: did anyone else notice that in yesterday's show the new JR kept staring down at Bobbie Eakes' cleavage? Maybe it was just me, but it made me dislike even more, if thats possible at this point...witless twit that he is.
Looking forward to the caps kariyaki.
Black Knight
(breaks land speed record clicking)

Noooooooooooooooooooooooo! Page temporarily unavailable??? Bastards!

Hee! Mystic0, I think our connection goes beyond a shared brain. We must be clones or something. That was me exactly.

Was the pre-explosion cappy in there? Please??

If only. It's pathetic how badly I want to find a screencap of shaggably-delicious Bianca doing the Flirty Head Tilt. But the ones kariyaki describe sound terrific also.

Re AMC Daytime Emmy nods I just read in Soap Opera Weekly that Micheal Knight did not submit his name for the race.

Well, that explains MEK, but Walt Willey still should've gotten the prenom over CamMath...

On the Argh!BabySwap foreshadowing front: today Erica makes Kendall say "you would do anything for Bianca?" and Kendall says "Yes, I would do anything for my family" [snip]  Or else Erica will convince her to come around and agree to help. But I don't see the latter after Kendall's insistance in the baby being good and good for Bianca.

Oh yeah, there is no way Kendall would ever participate in any sort of baby switch. She would never do that to Bianca, or herself--that's her daughter too. Hee. I just took Kendall's line to be foreshadowing of the probable reveal that she went through all this stuff with "marrying" Michael, the trial, etc. to protect the real killer, Bianca. We had an anvil drop when Aidan was talking to Kendall about how the real killer was going to go free if Kendall pleaded guilty yesterday, too. You could see that Kendall was just fine with that (not the jail time, but the killer going free).

ETA: The page is back up. Whee--it's the belly rub and suggestively loving look from the brainstorming ep! Ah, the first Kinksed word...heh heh. Good times.
taylor3698
On a completely different note, I saw the actors Emound and Maria today on the show Pryamid. They looked awlfully cummy together so I was wondering, are they married to each other? I guess they could be really close friends. Does anyone know if the actors are married to each other?
Black Knight
Yes, John and Eva LaRue Callahan have been married for a number of years, since her first stint as Maria.
kariyaki
Heh. "Cummy"? Such an appropriate typo.

There's a new ABC banner ad for the Kane women.
Black Knight
And another landspeed record is broken clicking on the link, kariyaki...

That one's cool, but I like the other version of it better, the one that's on Olga's board, because Bianca practically looks like she has one arm on Kendall's shoulder, and you can see her cleavage (yeah, yeah, I'm a pig). I wonder what magazine that came from? Hrrrmmm.
Stewie
Yet another pleasant e-mail 'defending' Lena has made me extra bitter tonight.


MysticO I’m a Lianca fan and frequent poster on Olga’s board. If anyone is harshing you let me know I'll smack them with Keilbasa. Hey any Lianca fans out there lurking don’t e-mail posters here, debate them out in the open. Don’t become a bammer spammer. Speaking of which….

That's happened with the Lianca fan base to a certain extent. You absolutely have to be 90% a Lena fan and 10% percent a Bianca fan (and that's only because you need Bianca for Olga's job security and to have a girl for Lena to shag, of course.)


Now you should like a BAMmer. ;)

Kendall - heh, she so brought the Kinks today! "Take care of her for me. For me? I mean us." That wasn't Pervy: that was all Alicia!


Did you hear the giggle & cute little smile from Alicia after she said that. She knows exactly what’s she doing.

Great, the site's on overload. Now we'll have to wait to get our fill of Kinksy screencaps...Damn!


Screencaps from today’s show via another board for Olga. Kinks hug included.

TSN

BTW-ITA on the scenes with Erica and Kendall. I was skating a fine line with Erica, but at the end she impressed me with the fact that for once we had a complex Erica who wasen't just ragingly bad or unwaveringly supportive, but somewhere in between. Mad props to LaLucci.


Nicely put. Those were some great scenes today. Both Alicia and Susan were great. La Lucci has been on fire this week as Understated Erica. I’m amazed how good the dialogue between the characters has been all this week. I'm sure Mc Hack is not responsible for it.

Greenlee in the pit of despair was so damn adorable today too.
superdiva80
What I like about this Erica stuff is that for once we're not quite sure what she's going to do next and for Erica Kane that's saying alot.
jenmarie
I think the wardrobe department must hate Naggie as much as I do. They must want EH to be as uncomfortable as possible in her scenes. Why else would they put her in a heavy gray sweater, then have her a wear a fugly blue and black striped pashmina thing over it?

I did love watching Naggie squirm during Lianca's "Itsy Bitsy, Eency Weency" debate. Hee!But why was Lena suddenly so concerned for Naggie?

Bianca: "She didn't bug out again did she?" Bwah! I thought that was hysterical.

Could they please never ever show Edmund in his hospital gown ever again? Yeesh. JC has not aged well at all.
SkiffyPup
That was one delicious view of Olga's rack today. Wow. Just ... oink.
Why don't they show her cleavage more often? Because that is a lovely chest, baby. Just beautiful.

The Punisher is the only Lianca sympathizer in that studio.

Love the Kinksy week. Start your coin generators and funny comment brainparts if you want to pry the whip from my hands by Monday morning.

TWoP announcement about new server Tuesday. (Crosses fingers)
Mystic0
On the rack-check tip: did anyone else notice that in yesterday's show the new JR kept staring down at Bobbie Eakes' cleavage?


You know, I did notice that but my brain doesn't know how to process the information so it just kicked it back out again. Kinda like Erica and reality, that sort of thing.

It's pathetic how badly I want to find a screencap of shaggably-delicious Bianca doing the Flirty Head Tilt.


No, I don't think that's pathetic at all. But then again, I wouldn't, would I?

If anyone is harshing you let me know I'll smack them with Keilbasa.


No, dude, it's cool. I shouldn't have brought it up really. Unfortunately, when I get cranky I tend to mount my favorite steed (the really high one). So, be a sweetheart and disregard anything I said that sounded anti-Lianca fan base. I may not be on the same page as a lot of y'all, but I think we're all in the same book.

Now you should like a BAMmer. ;)


I like the one who harasses CKD and Skiffy. That count? Oh! You mean sound not should! Hmm... See, now I'm off whistling for my horse. Just kidding. ;)

What I like about this Erica stuff is that for once we're not quite sure what she's going to do next and for Erica Kane that's saying alot.


Yeah, that's kinda blowing me away. Well, it's scaring me but I'm definitely intrigued.
Darn
Just dropping in with a quick question: There's rumor of a baby switch? I was thinking that the other day...but wasn't Babe's baby conceived in October? While Bianca's was in July?
kariyaki
The baby switch rumor was founded by us here. It's more of a theory than anything that's been heard in the spoiler-mill.
SkiffyPup
Mystic0, is it harassment if we really really enjoy it?
I think not. Hee.

Kendall was so terrific today with Erica. But that flower on the dress HAS to go. It reminds me of the one Olga wears occasionally that I just hate hate hate. Perhaps it is actually the same one after a trip through the AMC laundry. I think this because of early Babe pleated sharp skirt (pink satin) looked like it had been through the machine and then Eden wore it's hideous flouncyness at SSW Fla. Am I wrong?

I think I can gleefully take a whole month of non-reactive-Erica and Bianca "that scares me" comments. Lucci, however, cannot. I saw some subtle hairshaking in her Kendall scenes today. Girl is gonna blow. BOOM.
Stewie
Now you should like a BAMmer. ;)


Well I guess if I'm going to snark on someone I should learn how to do it right. *smoochies*

My bad sorry.

Yes it should have said sound not should. Bah!
Darn
The baby switch rumor was founded by us here. It's more of a theory than anything that's been heard in the spoiler-mill.
Ah. That is very McTavish-ish though. If it does happen I'm sure one of the babies will die. Because babies are but play things on her soaps.
emaf
SkiffyPup I have to agree with you on Kendall's gihugic flower pin. That thing is as big as her head. And with her being such a lollipop actress (teeny tiny stick-like body, big-haired skull bobbling on top), that's saying something. Not that I have anything against lollipops.
onewomanshow
Oh! You mean sound not should! Hmm... See, now I'm off whistling for my horse.


It's becoming increasingly difficult to tell the difference between a Lianca and a BAMmer. I've started collectively refering to them as the LAMBers.

MysticO, I agree with everything you've been saying regarding Lianca. The writing stinks. If the Kissault is indeed leading to a real romantic triangle, with Bianca torn between which woman to choose, well, then, there needs to be some real post-Voldemort Lianca bonding scenes to counter-act all of that BAM, BFF bonding that went on for months on end. And that has nothing to do with being fair to each character (Lena/Maggie) or either coupling, fanbase, whatevercakes and has everything to do with good writing. In order for the audience to care, to root for someone to win, to want to see two of the three characters involved in the triangle wind up together, there has to be a firm emotional base established between the object of desire and the two warring would-be lovers. We've gotten that in spades (it's been poorly done, but done nonetheless) with BAM, BFF. All that Lianca shared pre-Voldemort, in terms of this particular romantic triangle, has been rendered null and void by months of separation. There must be some meaningful interaction between Lianca, as much as possible, in fact, before this triangle goes into full swing. It hasn't happened yet, though a little Lianca on-screen bonding very well should have happened before the Kissault, if for no other reason than to provide the prerequisite tension (and no, McTrash, having Lena showing up at the door moments after does not count--it only gave the BFF an easy out) for the onset of a triangle. If, and only if, this does not happen before the triangle truly gets underway, I will be as pissed as the most die-hard Lianca. For right now, though, I think all the anger felt by Liancas is justified to some extent--it's the intensity that I feel is boarding on excessive and, needless to say, I find the venom being spewed toward Kinks to be nothing short of totally unnessessary, ugly and downright silly. I know that I should leave it at that, because I'm mad. And when I'm mad, I go all James Brown "The Big Payback". That's just me. So, I shouldn't say anymore. . .but, I'm going to anyway--

[rant]Perviness aside, Kinks are sisters, which is a bond that has a meaning all it's own and is unlike any other. At the start of this murder mystery shitstorm, Bianca was the only person in the world that Kendall could actually totally trust--Aidan could not be let in on everything for Bianca's and his own sake, Ryan's an unreliable, self-righteous, spastic little shit who has left Kendall in the lurch before and probably will again, Greenlee immediately went all Piper Perabo-Lost and Delirious on her, Mia turned on her for a little afternoon delight with Aidan, Simone suddenly didn't know her name, Jackson is Erica's bitch, ditto David and we all know that Erica, Erica Kane is out of her goddamned mind and makes Joan Crawford look like June-fucking-Cleaver! So, yeah, Kendall turned to Bianca, because she had no other choice. Totally logical. And of course Bianca was there for her, because it was the right thing to do. I honestly fail to see how the Kinks bonding has been at Lianca's expense. The fact is that even if Lena and Bianca were offically a couple, Bianca would have been completely consumed by Kendall's trial. Kendall's on trial for her life, dammit! It's not as if Bianca has turned her attention to Kendall for some arbitrary reason. Kendall fluffing, my ass.[/rant] *phew*

Anyone who wants my email address is welcome to it. . .

I've missing y'all, BTW, but I've been extremely busy for the past week or so, metamorphosing into the ultimate in slack--a filmschool drop-out. Look out real world, 'cause here I come. . .
regis
[small voice] I can't tell if you're mocking me or not.[/sv]

Mystic0 - No! I'm not mocking you at all! Sorry if my post came across like that. My tone was meant to be kind of giddily embarrassed because I've been such a fanfic whore, and you totally nailed the effect that has had on my Lianca watching experience. So really I was laughing at myself and enjoying the guilty pleasures of being outed as a fanfic whore.
onewomanshow
So really I was laughing at myself and enjoying the guilty pleasures of being outed as a fanfic whore.


Heh. I'm going to have to go check some of that stuff out. Perhaps it will cure me of my Kinks addiction. Oh, who am I fucking kidding. . .

While I'm on the subject. . .

Dammit, aren't their any fan fic writers in Pervy's flock???


I don't do fanfic, but, I'm always good for a dirty poem. If you're ever interested in a dirty little ditty about Kinks or Eden's rack or Rebecca Budig's ass--HOLLA!

[OT]Last Fall I took a class called "Artists' Seminar" or some such bullshit. At the end of the semester we were supposed to turn in an "Artist's Statement", describing who we think we are as people and as artists. *snort* I didn't write one. So, the day they were due, I was sitting in front of my computer, ten minutes late to class, with no desire to write the fucking thing. *mumble, mumble. . .pretentious. . .mumble, mumble. . .better things to do with my time* So, I quickly printed up a poem that I wrote about Rebecca Budig and turned that in as my Artist's Statement. I just went to pick the paper up a few days ago. . .and the fucking professor gave me an "A"! I couldn't believe it! Rebecca? You're pissing me off with this Bachelor Bob shit. Big time, baby. But, I wuv you! Thanks for the inspiration, pretty lady. Hee.[/OT]

Oink oink oink! Sigh. It'll surprise no one to hear I just adored the Binky-disrobing part of that scene.


You ain't the only one! I'm too embarassed to admit how many times I pressed "rewind" on those scenes. The Rack-O-SORAS was screaming, "Look at me, goddamn it! Look! You know you want to! Look at me, or so help me, I'll do something drastic! And, man, was I looking. Looking, drooling, shaking. . .

She's gotta have the baby soon so you can get your oink on properly.


Me, I just put up a thumb to block the pregnancy pad, Kid's In The Hall style. It worked just fine. . .

Kendall - heh, she so brought the Kinks today! "Take care of her for me. For me? I mean us." That wasn't Pervy: that was all Alicia!


They both seem to be tripping up recently. First we had that "Kendall's baby--I should say, my baby" from Eden, then Alicia says "Bianca wants me--she wants me to be happy", then this.


I find this all veeeeery interesting. I wonder if those two tubes of lovely are doing this on purpose (which I would love, BTW) or have they been hipped to the whole "Kinks" thing, and are subconsciously allowing it to effect their performances. Hmmmmm.

By the by, we are most defintely getting a baby switch. I don't think Kendall or Boobe will be involved. . .wittingly, that is. I believe that the Boobe/Binky handshagging the other day was an anvil announcing that they will eventually bond over their mutual love for Kendall Jr. Although, I don't believe that there will be a custody battle. More than likely, Boobe is going to make a run for it with Bling and probably Krystal. A "Where in the World is Kendall Jr." SL is more likely than a custody battle. Then again, I am the foo who said that there was no way the Kissault would happen before the end of Kendall's trial. Humph.

The baby switch will make for difficult viewing. However, there are two good things that will probably come from this baby switch SNAFU--First of all, no BAM. Can you imagine Naggie attempting to comfort Bianca after the "death" of the lovechild? "Jeeze, B, I'm, like, sorry your kid's dead and all that stuff. I mean, that sucks. Ugh. Want a fudgecicle? It'll make you feel better." Yeah, the Nag is a goner. Secondly, Kinks comfort!snuggles. Kinks ain't going nowhere.
jenmarie
"Jeeze, B, I'm, like, sorry your kid's dead and all that stuff. I mean, that sucks. Ugh. Want a fudgecicle? It'll make you feel better." Yeah, the Nag is a goner.


Bwah!

"Bianca, I understand how sad you must be about your baby, I had a hamster that died when I was ten. I loved her so much. Anyways, can we talk about us?"

To add to the baby switch theory. I think that with all the talk about Bianca having girl, she's going to have a boy. Erica, who knows that Bianca feels she is having a girl, will tell her she had a baby girl that died, and give the boy to Boobe. One reason Bianca won't be suspicious at all, is because she felt her baby was a girl for months and was told she gave birth to a girl, so naturally Bianca won't suspect anything if Boobe is carting around a boy for months(and I'm sure this thing will drag out for months).

ETA: I don't think it's a coincedence that Bianca has never been officially told her baby is a girl.
kariyaki
Yeah, I'm suspecting that the Assfetus will be a boy. Dammitall. It messes with the whole Kane Woman Dynamic. Of course, with the steadfast assumption by its two mommies that it will be a girl in addition to the girliness of the Kanes, he will probably be a very gay boy.

At the start of this murder mystery shitstorm, Bianca was the only person in the world that Kendall could actually totally trust--Aidan could not be let in on everything for Bianca's and his own sake, Ryan's an unreliable, self-righteous, spastic little shit who has left Kendall in the lurch before and probably will again, Greenlee immediately went all Piper Perabo-Lost and Delirious on her, Mia turned on her for a little afternoon delight with Aidan, Simone suddenly didn't know her name, Jackson is Erica's bitch, ditto David and we all know that Erica, Erica Kane is out of her goddamned mind and makes Joan Crawford look like June-fucking-Cleaver! So, yeah, Kendall turned to Bianca, because she had no other choice. Totally logical.

onewomanshow, have I mentioned that I love you? That was like the best explanation of the logic of Kinks (the non-pervy side to it) that I've ever read. Oh, also, your A on the Rebecca poem? Professors like the weirdest stuff. One time, I was at a loss on what to write a paper on so I did a half-assed one on penis euphemisms in romance novels. Fuckin'-A, dude!

"Bianca, I understand how sad you must be about your baby, I had a hamster that died when I was ten. I loved her so much. Anyways, can we talk about us?"

I had a hamster named Scruffy. He died, he died!

Though, Naggie will probably try to capitalize on her cousin Samara's death in order to get closer to Binks. "Oh, sure, I was more interested in fucking that dope Henry rather than comfort David and Anna about their loss, but deep down I grieved."
Baila
I wonder if Greenlee will find leftover bottled water and potato chips from when Janet pushed Natalie down there?


Natalie was in a well. Greenlee fell into a mineshaft. TPTB even used different sets. I give them kudos for that.
Mystic0
No! I'm not mocking you at all! Sorry if my post came across like that.


No, sugar plum, it was totally me. It's always hard to see clearly when I have my ass on my shoulders. Mad virtual hugs to ya, snuggle bunny. ;)

Heh. I'm going to have to go check some of that stuff out. Perhaps it will cure me of my Kinks addiction.


Dude, it won't work. We're too far gone. I was reading this perfectly innocent story yesterday about Kinks having to go on the run from the cops and, well, let's just say where my mind went with it was very different than what the author probably had in mind. Heh.

Me, I just put up a thumb to block the pregnancy pad, Kid's In The Hall style. It worked just fine. . .


Bwahahahaha!

Yeah, I'm suspecting that the Assfetus will be a boy. Dammitall. It messes with the whole Kane Woman Dynamic. Of course, with the steadfast assumption by its two mommies that it will be a girl in addition to the girliness of the Kanes, he will probably be a very gay boy.


No shit, man. He'll be the gayest of the gay. I'm still trying to ignore all the signs and hope it's a girl. Lalalalalalala... I want a Kendall Jr., dammit! Erica will never accept the poor kid if it's a boy. Oh, and thanks for tracking down the Kinks cappies. Mmmmmm..........brainstorming ep. (happy sigh)
Black Knight
It's beyond stupid to mess with the Kane Woman Dynamic just for a cheap and short-lived "surprise" that really wouldn't be a surprise to anyone in the audience. So until Bianca gives birth, I insist that she's carrying a girl. My Power of Denial rivals Erica's on this point!

So for yesterday's tally of Kinks SisYay, in addition to what's already been mentioned...I liked the "It was us against the world"--another star-crossed lovers line. There was Kendall praising her partner as the greatest mom ever and the answering eyeshag from Bianca. There was Kendall telling Erica that she can survive prison because she has a reason to live--that reason was unspoken, but so obviously "Bianca and Kendall Jr. will be waiting for me when I get out." And there was Bianca's hand landing right beside Kendall's breast when Kendall went in for the hug. Heh.

Actually, Bianca was using hugs as an excuse to molest both her girlfriends yesterday (clever Binky...). I noticed her brushing her finger over Lena's breast at the end of their hug too. And yet Lena goes on about Naggie when they're alone. It's amusing how she really does have no game around Bianca. It's Valentine's Day and Bianca's in the hospital--get her some friggin' flowers in addition to the CD, Lena, you would've had plenty of excuse to pass off the flowers as non-romantic if that had been the way Bianca wanted to play it. But no, Bianca was feeling romantic and Lena decides to talk about Naggie. Sigh. Their interaction over the CD was truly adorable though and I laughed uproariously when the camera cut to a sulking Naggie. I have to admit she also cracked me up later with the confuzzled "They were out of diet?" in response to Lena's out-of-the-blue question. (Did Lena totally forget subtlety? I always find it funny when people are so absorbed in a line of thought that they just assume that everyone else will be able to follow along even if they came in late.) The other thing I really liked about the CD bantering is that it's so obviously one of those couple-y in-joke arguments that will crop up periodically for the next 50 years.

One beautiful subtle look from Bianca that I must comment on--it's when she looks at Lena after Naggie's questioning Lena about whether she remembers what it was like when Lianca first met up. Lena's all soft and gooey and romantic in replying, and Bianca--her look was dead-on. You can see that she loves Lena, but that she's really only happy that Lena loves her and has good memories, that her own memories are totally tainted. Bianca would prefer to largely forget the first six months and just make new memories. She'll never be the one to tell "When we first met" stories. It was an emotionally honest look, very nice work by Eden (that's one reason I think she can't possibly be blind to the Kinks SisYay--she's too intelligent in her acting).

The Kendall/Erica scenes were terrific. Erica's walking such a tightrope and it is indeed scary because she's going to fall off at some point, and the way she's trying to hold herself together and avoid dealing with Bianca's pregnancy is going to be very counterproductive. I think it's very true to her that she accepts and even admires that Kendall was protecting Bianca--all the Kane Women feel strongly about protecting each other to the point of way overdoing it. And while I feel that she was completely sincere in her praise of Kendall for having learned to put someone else ahead of herself, I noticed it also served as a very clever diversion tactic to avoid answering Kendall's question about whether Erica can love that baby. And while Erica can deny all she wants that her feelings about Bianca's baby have nothing to do with her feelings about Kendall, the fact is that they do and Kendall can see it. Erica has no reason otherwise to be praying for a miscarriage when Bianca has told her she wants the baby. (I liked Kendall's jibe at Erica at the hospital about which prayer should be answered. And I liked Kendall's rant to Bianca. Jack was mad at her for it, but frankly Kendall wasn't saying anything Bianca had not already guessed.)

I adored the bit where Erica told Kendall not to talk because talking had only gotten her into trouble so far, and so the only thing she wanted to hear out of Kendall was "Yes, Mother, I promise." Hee! I had to snicker though at how Erica, in her usual self-absorption, obviously thinks Kendall is protecting her. Erica, you dumbass, if Kendall believed/knew you had killed Michael, she would've freaked out when you incriminated yourself on the stand.
Mystic0
You can see that she loves Lena, but that she's really only happy that Lena loves her and has good memories, that her own memories are totally tainted.


Aw, man, thank you! I had noticed the difference of Bianca's look, especially in comparison to Lena's schmoopy one, but was having a bit of a problem identifying it. That makes total sense. I forget sometimes how Lianca is in two very different places. Damn Michael. I do regret that we'll probably never get to see Lianca dealing with the shadow Mikey has cast over them. There's just gotta be a lot of baggage there, for both of them.

I've always been kinda curious about the whole Lena/Michael past. I mean, since we know of the woman in Milan, Michael scumminess didn't just pop out of the ether, it had been there all along. That's where the whole re-write throws me a bit. Just how bad was Mikey? In the beginning Lena had no fear of him that I could see. I was under the impression that she was almost jockeying for position against him. She was constantly taunting him and throwing his incompetence in his face. She slagged him about not getting Kendall under control and tweaked on his insecurities about his dad seeing him as a failure. I guess my question would be, was Lena scared of him before he threatened her mother? Or was it just a business for Lena (and a way to keep her mom taken care of) and his threatening of her came later, after she refused to do his bidding? Anybody got a read on this? I should quickly state that whatever her past with Mikey was (mutually beneficial or under his oppressive thumb) makes no difference because she's not that person anymore. I'm just curious to know what it looked like to other people.

and so the only thing she wanted to hear out of Kendall was "Yes, Mother, I promise."


That? Rocked, man. Kendall's "Yes, mother, I promise" and "Should I thank you? I feel like I should thank you." while confusedly backing out the door slayed me.
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