kariyaki
Jan 27, 2004 @ 1:04 am
Yeah, the head of ABC daytime even touted the Fusion thing as a Sex and the City "homage." I actually liked it, though. They were all pretty funny and there were plenty of catfights to go around. I have fond memories of watching Kendall and Greenlee writhe around in lotion.
boris
Jan 27, 2004 @ 1:04 am
Welcome aich, you haven't missed much, McTavish sucks and Fusion lost its relevence months ago. Right on. Aside from Pervy Writer, we're all all sunk.
Oh, and I still have undying love for Judge Lampert. Seeing her smack down people is fun.
aich
Jan 27, 2004 @ 1:26 am
oh dude. that judge rocks. sometimes i just love soap opera trials. they are so ridiculously not even close to being normal that it can be frustrating, but a nice snarky judge makes it more entertaining. did anyone burst out laughing when everyone was done questioning Erica and she just sits up there for a mintue while the lawyer sits down and then starts talking about the cops. She went on for like, five minutes before the judge was all, "Hey shut the fuck up and get down. Don't listen to her or her fugly shirt." I mean WTF? stupid.
I also like the hottie prosecutor with the long hair. he has potential- not that ive heard him speak or anything. although wasn't shaking his fist a jack today, "Curse you Montgomery! Curse you!" So lame, but so cute.
Black Knight
Jan 27, 2004 @ 1:45 am
Speaking of Judge Lampert smacking down people, did anyone else see the huge smirk on Livia's face when the judge was telling Exeter that she would run her courtroom as she saw fit, thank you very much? Livia was thisclose to bursting out laughing. How I adore both of them. There's got to be someone on this show that Livia can be paired with. Why make the decision that apparently her marriage to Tom is over otherwise? All AMC would've needed to do was script a simple "How's Tom?" "He's fine, thanks for asking" to keep Livia married without having to bring Tom on.
Liza, those are sloppy, sloppy seconds. Thirds, really. Ewww. Any sane woman should have a rule--Lips that Have Touched Krystal's Will Never Touch Mine.
Kendall, Kendall, Kendall. I hope to God that you and Ryan don't tie the knot, even if you are way behind on the usual soap vixen pace for marriages and divorces. And did Greenlee just not have enough of hiding when she was in that interminable SL where day after day she was hiding in JP's closet eavesdropping on him and Mary?
Mystic0, after seeing today's ep, I'm completely convinced that Erica was lying about the whole PTSD thing. She wasn't the slightest bit convincing in how she said it, and Bianca was pushing her. (I loved the way Bianca said "no no no no no no no" when confronting Erica. So totally like the parent to the child, a dynamic emphasized by her greater height.) Convenient, easy lie to get out of telling Binks the truth. Like the lawyers always advise, "I don't recall."
I also wonder if Bianca's jumped right past the red herring of Erica and is starting to consider that she herself might have killed Michael. Just something about the expression on Bianca's face when she started talking to Erica about her repressed memories and that she was afraid, before Jack and Reggie interrupted. It just didn't seem like she was worried or suspicious that Erica might have killed Michael. Oh, and Mystic0, I didn't think Bianca was doing the same Gollum!Bianca thing she was doing post-Voldemort after Jack and Reggie came in. She smiled a bit, but all the worry and stress was visible right underneath. Her congratulations to Jerica was less enthusiastic than it normally would've been and I could see the wheels still spinning in her mind about what she's repressing. Her last smile was such a "Oh, this is all about to blow up" nervous, weak kind of smile. She knows she's sitting on a timebomb. Lovely layered work from Eden today. (The promo white wifebeater shot, btw, is definitely from the Erica/Bianca storm scenes. None of the AMC shots were new, actually.)
onewomanshow
Jan 27, 2004 @ 2:00 am
She went on for like, five minutes before the judge was all, "Hey shut the fuck up and get down. Don't listen to her or her fugly shirt."
Bwah! And Welcome to the Chateau of The Damned,
aich.
Aside from Pervy Writer, we're all all sunk.
Nobody. Cares. And what's with the Boobe storyline? They tried to redeem her earlier only to have her trash it over New Years in trying to bed Jamie. Why bother? She's become more serious FF material as it goes along.
Wordy McWord,
boris. I watched my tape in about five minutes flat today. Once Kendall was out of Bianca's orbit and back in her condo with FrankenLavery, I could care less. Other than Kinks, I'm bored to death. *sigh*
And the BoobeSaga cannot end soon enough. I am simply appalled by how much airtime this story is sucking up, considering that it is almost entirely comprised of newbie characters, who have been shoved down our throats, that I still could care less than a fuck about. And it is so obvious that all of the stories are simply treading water until sweeps, which is truly a sign of piss-poor storytelling. It wouldn't bother me so much if I thought for one second that the payoff was going to make it all worth while, but, if November sweeps was any indication, that is not going to be the case.
ETA:
I also wonder if Bianca's jumped right past the red herring of Erica and is starting to consider that she herself might have killed Michael.
Black Knight, I think that today Bianca became convinced that she either committed the murder or was there when it happened. And I agree with everything else you say--Bianca's face did register some underlying angst during the "celebration" scene. Under different circumstances she would have been much more enthusiastic. And, personally, I think that the shadow is Kendall's, judging not by the hair, but by the movement of the body. Alicia's much more graceful that Eden when moving into a crouching position. It seemed like Alicia's body movement to me.
bluedevilblue
Jan 27, 2004 @ 2:00 am
Bianca has a repressed memory? My god, is there a soap cliche McTrash hasn't used? She's only been there 7-8 months, and by my count (which comes from here and not watching) I have a rape, murder, murder trial, whose the daddy (JR/Babe/Jamie - it is a WTD, right? not that I care), Assicle the ghost haunting people, and isn't Edmund paralyzed or something? Geez, when does Greenlee's long lost twin with amnesia show up or is Frankie coming back from the dead instead (with amnesia of course).
Liza throwing Mia through that window. Good freakin' times.
Black Knight
Jan 27, 2004 @ 2:39 am
And, personally, I think that the shadow is Kendall's, judging not by the hair, but by the movement of the body.
Ironically, with last week's flashback I was thinking it was Kendall, but with this episode's flashback, I switched to thinking it's Bianca. I agree that the movement seems more like Kendall's, but the hair looked more like Bianca's to me today. Most likely the shadow is being played by a stuntperson with a wig slapped on her head anyway. The look on Bianca's face made me think that she was realizing the shadow was hers.
I don't think Bianca's quite convinced yet that she killed Michael or she'd be running to her girlf--er, sister to discuss it immediately. But no doubt she can see all the clues, from Kendall's protectiveness to all the indications that Michael really did die that night (she's had quite a lot of reaction shots at the trial during testimony relating to the time of death and so on), point her way. And she must be aware that for her to block it out, it has to be beyond upsetting. She didn't block out her rape, after all.
Ah, Flying Mia. Indeed good times, and it should be repeated as soon as possible. But Kendall should get to do the honors this time.
CookieOK
Jan 27, 2004 @ 3:24 am
The BAMmer's reasoning on the no triangle as Bianca's NEVER having cared for Lena and is only waiting around until the Magster "comes to her senses" proves once again that most of the BAMmers are actually more fans of Liz/Maggie and don't really care that much about the character of Bianca.
This means they think that the Binkster would actually sleep with someone she wasn't in love with!
bindyesq
Jan 27, 2004 @ 9:53 am
This means they think that the Binkster would actually sleep with someone she wasn't in love with!
Not that there's anything wrong with that . . .
onlyinPV
Jan 27, 2004 @ 10:20 am
WTF was up with the music at the restaraunt in the scene with Babe and Mommy McWhorealot? They had the music up so loud you couldn't hear the dialogue. It looked like they were shouting at each other and I couldn't really make out what they were saying. And when it concerns the Babe SL, making us strain to hear their banal vapid nothing is adding insult to injury.
ktaborn
Jan 27, 2004 @ 10:53 am
I want LENA, LENA, LENA and LIANCA, LIANCA, LIANCA!!!
The sad pathic call of the lonely Lena Fan:
LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
LE-LE-LE-LE-EEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Lianca? Heck, I'd take anything right now, even Ryan (Rena? Lyan?), just as long as Lena finally got out of that Pine Valley traffic. What has it been? Five or six days? They really have to work on the traffic light coordination in that town. By the time she gets to the courthouse, the trial will be long over.
Buttload of spoilers gakked from yahoo groups and Soap Opera Network. But I found them over at LJ so I'll link to it there. I tried to just post 'em but it would've been too long.
Was anyone else traumatized and psychologically scarred because there were no mention of Lena in those spoilers?
ktaborn
Jan 27, 2004 @ 11:06 am
[expletive deleted]
Mystic0
Jan 27, 2004 @ 11:38 am
I'm completely convinced that Erica was lying about the whole PTSD thing.
Thank Pete, I couldn't trust my own judgement (it being too colored by an almost violent need to get far away from an 'Erica does PTSD' angle). If Erica did feel the need to lie to shift Binky's focus off herself, I wonder if we'll hear or see Erica keep at it. Of course, with Erica's denial lovin' nature, she might not be fully aware of her suspicions about Bianca's involvement. But then Erica must know that casting suspicion on herself is hardly comforting news for Bianca, so I guess she is aware and just sees Bianca suspecting her as more favorable than Bianca suspecting herself. I'm confusing myself...
I agree that Erica's little confession slid right past Bianca (much like Lena and Maggie's hissing at each other). That's why I think whatever Bianca's repressing must be a big deal. It's certainly monopolizing all of Bianca's attention, for the most part. Poor kid will never get out of therapy.
Lovely layered work from Eden today.
Yep, she really excels at layered, more subtle work, which is hardly the corner stone of soap acting. That's why I hope she doesn't become too complacent working on soaps. I'd hate to see her eventually lose this talent because she becomes accustomed to the more high hysterics of soap acting. She needs to score a part on a nice HBO drama or something where character nuances are more the focus. She'd rock that. Sadly, I think Eden would probably have to be dragged from the AMC set by her hair.
Not that there's anything wrong with that . . .
For some reason, I found that hilarious. Hee!
Dianora
Jan 27, 2004 @ 11:48 am
I couldn't believe Liza was all over Tad when he hadn't even washed Krystal off of him. So nasty.
And god, Krystal is just so fucking....contrived. Could the bit with the food have been any more labored, desperately trying to tell us LOOK! SHE'S QUIRKY! AIN'T SHE FUN? ARE YOU LOVING HER YET??? NO?? QUICK! MORE FRENCH FRIES!
I used to be an Anyone But Liza girl but now I think I'm Anyone But Krystal. At least Liza's a real character and not a pornographic cartoon.
kariyaki
Jan 27, 2004 @ 12:13 pm
Speaking of Judge Lampert smacking down people, did anyone else see the huge smirk on Livia's face when the judge was telling Exeter that she would run her courtroom as she saw fit, thank you very much? Livia was thisclose to bursting out laughing. How I adore both of them.
Oh yeah, I saw it. I was laughing my ass off at it. I was also laughing at Tarzan's half-hearted, "Damn you, Jack." What was that, he couldn't put a little more feeling into it? Did his cue come up mid butt-scratch and he could only concentrate on one thing at a time?
Black Knight
Jan 27, 2004 @ 12:40 pm
I figured the actor who played Tarzan--whose name I am totally spacing on for the moment, even though I can remember his SuBe character name perfectly--was stuck on the fact that no ADA would ever yell "Damn you, Jack!" in the courtroom and so he had no idea how to pull off that line.
Oh, and
kariyaki, I caught up on your recaps on Soap Slut and I noticed you were nearly as interested in the Alicia/Eden/Michael background conversation as I was, so I'll go ahead and post the next line Alicia says that I was able to figure out after a few more rewinds (I'm so pathetic)--after she tells Michael not to look at them, she then faces Eden and says, "You're jealous." (It's all done in a friendly teasing way.) Unfortunately after that it's all Eden talking with her face turned away from the camera, and Cam Math enters the shot and blocks everything out. Damn.
Mystic0, I may have spoken too soon.
The damn spoilers for next week say that after Erica tries to stab Kendall, thinking she's Michael (ugh), she goes kerplunk and then doesn't remember anything about trying to kill Kendall when she's revived.But then Erica must know that casting suspicion on herself is hardly comforting news for Bianca, so I guess she is aware and just sees Bianca suspecting her as more favorable than Bianca suspecting herself.
Well, remember last time Erica felt it was better that Bianca believe that Erica had murdered her girlfriend as opposed to thinking she did it herself. But I agree with what you said that a lot of Erica's suspicions may be subconscious this time (especially since Bianca was so mad at her last time for thinking that Bianca would've murdered Frankie). Erica's been the Queen of Denial for the last few months, so what's one more? (BTW, I do think Bianca caught Erica's slipup--she was calling her mother out bigtime, because she's so focused on helping Kendall and she knows she has to figure out everything that happened that night to do that--but then Erica came up with "It's all a fog" which is kind of hard for Bianca to do anything with. And then Binks flashed back to the shadow and her facial expression sort of said that she thought it was her own. I think Bianca's just being smart enough to realize that Erica isn't the killer--that hella good BS detector in action--and that whatever she knows, it's not about Erica. But I could be wrong.)
Sadly, I think Eden would probably have to be dragged from the AMC set by her hair.
Hee. It is getting long enough. (I like that with Bianca, AMC, or perhaps it's Eden, uses some sense about when she gets her haircuts. Bianca doesn't get haircuts when she's hella busy with lots of trouble. It always cracks me up when these soap characters who are going through tons of shit apparently feel the need to jam in a visit to the stylist. I know that's always MY first priority during periods of great trauma. But Bianca's hair grew long in the period after Voldemort and it's growing long again now. Very realistic.) Back to the point, Eden does sound like she wants to renew her contract, but I suspect that once that is up, she'll leave, unless AMC has her involved in a SL at the time that's just too damn juicy to walk out on. She'll be in a different place in her life after her next contract ends and probably ready to try something else for a change. Hopefully Susan won't have corrupted her with scenery-chewing lessons before then.
ktaborn, I've always loved your work on Whoosh.org. Just one friendly tip--don't sign your posts here.
kariyaki
Jan 27, 2004 @ 1:06 pm
Five minutes in. "Whose gun is this?" Mary, I know you have a brain rattling around in there somewhere. Are we sure she isn't Mia's mother?
nkzd
Jan 27, 2004 @ 1:24 pm
I'm not much better. I kept on trying to figure out who M. Chandler was. *L*
Black Knight
Jan 27, 2004 @ 1:25 pm
I just imagined Greenlee and Mia as half-sisters. Hmmm, given their Fusion Troll status, I can actually see it. It'd be fun to see Greens beating up her moron half-sister all the time.
That reminds me, I skimmed through the new SOD very quickly this morning while waiting in the checkout line, and Rebecca has a roundup question in there about who Greenlee is most herself with. She said Reggie. Interesting.
Oh, and in the SOD mailbag (not the actual letters portion, the nutshell summary afterwards) the Lena/Bianca/Maggie triangle is mentioned and that some of the audience is for and some against. One of the latter's viewpoints was excerpted--something about how Bianca has so much more in common with Maggie than Lena. Guess the BAM group got their pens out after that SOD chat comment that the magazine hasn't received a BAM letter in awhile.
kariyaki
Jan 27, 2004 @ 1:29 pm
I know this probably illustrates that I've seen the What Women Want episode too many times but the song playing in the background of the Liza/Krystal scene was the same one Joanie "sang" in her Britney Spears video fantasy.
Did y'all SEE Bianca's face when she talked about how Kendall "shimmers"? Another verb sullied by Kinks.
Mysticks Muse
Jan 27, 2004 @ 2:17 pm
the next line Alicia says that I was able to figure out after a few more rewinds (I'm so pathetic)--after she tells Michael not to look at them, she then faces Eden and says, "You're jealous."
Oh come on! I can't be the first one to make a joke about Eden/Alicia/Rebecca can I? Y'all are slipping up big time. Or are all of you too busy out riding on the sled?
Mystic0
Jan 27, 2004 @ 2:21 pm
Did y'all SEE Bianca's face when she talked about how Kendall "shimmers"? Another verb sullied by Kinks.
Hee! Word, man. Binks was pretty shiny herself when talking about her girlfr....um, sister. Ah, Kinks, bringing the SisYay even while apart. I mean, really, who thinks about their sister while basking in the glow of another couple's impending wedding bliss? While I knew that, after the utopia that was the last Kink's scenes (Come back DLoFE! I need thee!), I'd have to wait a bit for more but I want more
now. Dammit.
Yay! Kryan will wait till after Kendall gets........acquitted to wed. We might dodge that bullet yet. You know, Greens is really playing the jilted ex to the hilt. The problem being I'm supposed to think it's Ryan she's pining over. Yeah, right. That's why she's all up in Kendall's fridge, drinking her wine. (Mystic pretends not to notice how dirty that sentence sounds.)
Mmm, can we have another Kendall cleans her fridge scene? Pweeze? I still have a pack of Dunhills to finish off. ;)
Here's some more belated props,
Black Knight, about Bianca being aware that it's all going to blow up soon. That was very tangible today. She was all big, shiny eyes of sadness. It must suck knowing that your beloved mother will be very, very disappointed in you real soon (Particularly when said mother is all happy and cooing at you.) and will, no doubt, have quite the hate-on with someone you love. Egads, what a mess.
Black Knight
Jan 27, 2004 @ 2:37 pm
I'm thrilled to hear I'll have some Kinks SisYay to watch tonight. I do so appreciate that the actresses bring it even when they aren't sharing a screen together. Hee. (Oh, and
Mystic0, my new Tivo really isn't helping matters. Now that I can pull up any AMC ep that I have saved on the hard drive instantly, without having to bother with popping in the right videotape and rewinding/FFing to the right place, I find myself rewatching the DLoFE every single damn night just on a whim. I'll probably still have it on the hard drive months from now when every other AMC ep will have been since transferred to videotape and deleted off the Tivo...)
It must suck knowing that your beloved mother will be very, very disappointed in you real soon (Particularly when said mother is all happy and cooing at you.) and will, no doubt, have quite the hate-on with someone you love.
Yup, though I think a good portion of Binks's angst, if not the majority of it now, is over the whole memory-repression thing. Like I said, the fact that she blocked this out, when she didn't block the rape out, is a good indicator that this is bad, bad shit. Who would've thought Erica's reaction to her pregnancy would turn out to be the least of her worries? But Bianca being Bianca, just because it's the least of her worries doesn't mean that it's not a huge worry. Poor girl. She has no minor problems.
When I saw on the PBP that Erica made a comment about how Bianca can go to Europe after all, I had to laugh. That's been a theme since Eden took over the role, and Bianca never gets to go. And in the last year it's turned into foreshadowing for "something bad is about to happen!" (And I see Jack was really doing well today with flinging all the anvils around.)
kariyaki
Jan 27, 2004 @ 2:45 pm
I can't believe Bianca has never been to Europe. Erica never took her there as a child? I know my stinking rich uncle dragged HIS kids there every chance he got.
aich
Jan 27, 2004 @ 2:46 pm
See, I couldn;t tell if ERica's horrible "its all a fog" acting was supposed to be ERica lying or Susan Lucci just sucking it up as an actress. I never sense a lot of nuances from Erica-Erica Kane. The character and actress seem as shallow as a kiddie pool to me so I'm never sure what I'm supposed to see.
Sometimes I think show should be called everybody loves Bianca. I enjoyed BIanca in the past and I think Eden is quite good, but come on- everyone gay and straight is tripping over themselves for her. And I get a little distracted by her eyebrows. It looks like someone drew those puppies on with a sharpie. *ducking rotten fruit*
But I think thats more of a McCrap can't write a balanced storyline. She did it on General Hospital too.
BUt oy, can Krystal get any more contrived. The last thing that makes me interested in a story is watching some skinny actress pretend to chow down on about six different entrees at once. Unless she goes to purge in the bathroom afterward, that scene was just stupid. Athough I did like that song playing in the background during the Babe/Krystal talk. Best part of the scene.
I love Livia. They should definitely keep her around. I loved her trying not to crack up when the judge was yelling at "Bad Lawyer Man."
Damn you , Jack, indeed.
Black Knight
Jan 27, 2004 @ 2:57 pm
I can't believe Bianca has never been to Europe. Erica never took her there as a child? I know my stinking rich uncle dragged HIS kids there every chance he got.
When Eden's Bianca joined the show, there was a mention in one of her earlier episodes that she went to Europe once when younger, though I think she said it was her father who took her. But of course visiting it as a child's different, not to mention the zillion things she wouldn't have gotten to see. It just cracks me up that Bianca's tried a bunch of times since and something always happens. It's not that hard to go to Europe even when not rich, but at this point Binks is clearly cursed.
Mystic0
Jan 27, 2004 @ 3:11 pm
I find myself rewatching the DLoFE every single damn night just on a whim.
Fear not, pervy sister, if I loved that scene anymore than I do, I'd have to marry it. I really need to set some boundaries, though. It's disconcerting how much I enjoy this couple.....uh, these sisters. It's just so damn
naughty, but most of all,
fun. They're so friggin' fun to watch and the scenes just. keep. coming. Everytime I think they've peaked, nope, here's more! I've always had a habit of relying on subtext and HoYay to get me through when the show I'm watching has no couples I'm interested in but Kinks is the best thing to come along ever. Alicia, Eden, and Pervy have a willing slave for life.
When I saw on the PBP that Erica made a comment about how Bianca can go to Europe after all, I had to laugh.
Be prepared for a non-laugh inducing reaction shot from Eden. :( I. Hate. Erica. If she gives Binks one more 'Someone will eventually love your loser ass' speech, I will be forced to murder her. I know that isn't how she means it, and historically (insert rant here about how
laughable it is that Bianca would have trouble getting someone to fall for her, much less, getting laid) the speech has relevance, but not so much now. I hate it that the first place Erica jumps to is how pathetic and less grand Bianca's love life is compared to Erica. Yes, I'm being irrational but my Erica hate is all consuming. Bitch.
Mysticks Muse
Jan 27, 2004 @ 3:31 pm
DLoFE?
What does this stand for again?
Black Knight
Jan 27, 2004 @ 3:33 pm
Fear not, pervy sister,
Hee! That's just so appropriate on so many levels. As for the talk of setting boundaries, let's face it, we're addicted. And to reiterate what
onewomanshow hilariously stated a while ago, I'm not even sorry. (cackling) Kinks Forever!
I hate it that the first place Erica jumps to is how pathetic and less grand Bianca's love life is compared to Erica.
Word. Especially since, at the moment, the reason Bianca's love life sucks is because she was raped and isn't yet ready to have sex again. Shut up, Erica. It's not like Bianca doesn't have anyone waiting in the wings for when she is ready.
(insert rant here about how laughable it is that Bianca would have trouble getting someone to fall for her, much less, getting laid)
Yeah, really. I mean, in the world of AMC, Bianca's probably the most eligible openly gay woman in America, on account of her wealth and being Erica's daughter. I could write it off before when Bianca was younger because she was rather shy, the whole Erica/wealth/fame thing would've scared off a lot of the girls her own age, and older women would generally eschew hitting on a 16-year-old. But that's kind of all out the window now. Lena's rather lucky Bianca met her while she still has all this insecurity about herself, and that Bianca's generally serious-relationship-minded. When she told Lena what a catch she is, she was right, but she also doesn't seem to realize she's a catch herself. I do hope some day she gets to take advantage of that and put a few notches on her bedpost. (And no, I'm not talking about Naggie.)
ETA:
Mysticks Muse, it stands for Door Lean of Flirty Enticement, TM
Mystic0.
boris
Jan 27, 2004 @ 3:37 pm
Damn you Greenlee, you interrupted possible Madam sex. Seriously, are they really trying that hard to write her a a full-on bitch?
And Jack honey, are you seriously that deluded about family happiness that you don't see Greenlee waiting for an opportunity to piss all over it? Bad Idea Jeans.
Mystic0
Jan 27, 2004 @ 4:04 pm
As for the talk of setting boundaries, let's face it, we're addicted.
(sigh) Word. I just didn't realize how far gone I was. You know when you're shipping a couple and everytime the door is left open (a sure soap sign that someone's about to burst in), you find yourself hoping that the other half of the couple is about to pop in? Well, I've started doing that with Kinks. There, I've said it. Everytime one member of Kinks is in the room, and there's a knock, I'm praying it's the other half of Kinks. In my defense, I think I've been seduced by the fun. I've stopped going to Lianca boards entirely, just because it seems you have to be miserable all the time to ship Lianca (No offense to hardcore Lianca peeps. You have a right to your frustration.) and Kaidan seems less than certain, while Kinks is just mad amounts of fun.
Damn you Greenlee, you interrupted possible Madam sex. Seriously, are they really trying that hard to write her a a full-on bitch?
Yeah! I guess Greens shares Binky's parental sex interruptus gene.
Stewie
Jan 27, 2004 @ 4:05 pm
When Eden's Bianca joined the show, there was a mention in one of her earlier episodes that she went to Europe once when younger, though I think she said it was her father who took her. But of course visiting it as a child's different, not to mention the zillion things she wouldn't have gotten to see. It just cracks me up that Bianca's tried a bunch of times since and something always happens. It's not that hard to go to Europe even when not rich, but at this point Binks is clearly cursed.
All this time as a Lianca fan, I've been hoping that eventually they make it to Europe together. Little did I know that Europe is a code word for more Bianca trauma. *shivers*
Bianca may have a lot of insecurities about herself, but I still think it's really odd that she failed to bring up Lena or at the very least the possibility that she looked forward to feeling romantic again with someone.
I'm really starting to believe that the "IT" Shadow is Erica. The big hair, along with the long sleeve dress would fit her perfectly. This is the love story of the Kane women after all. Erica has been left out of it for the last several months with all the SisYay! bonding.
Didn't Mona attempt to kill Richard Fields? Since McHack loves to recycle storylines, why wouldn't she recycle this one?
Ashterisk
Jan 27, 2004 @ 4:07 pm
Seriously, are they really trying that hard to write her a a full-on bitch?
This has really been bothering me lately. Greenlee, who was witty and deliciously malicious, has now just turned into pathetic and desperately bitchy.
Rebecca Budig is such a wonderful actor; I so hope they will stop ruining her character. Plus, Greens had a transformation from the stalkery type (Greenlee-Ryan, take 1 circa '99) to a much more self-assured woman post-Leo's death. Now they have regressed her and back some!
Black Knight
Jan 27, 2004 @ 4:35 pm
Bianca may have a lot of insecurities about herself, but I still think it's really odd that she failed to bring up Lena or at the very least the possibility that she looked forward to feeling romantic again with someone.
Bianca's been consistently really careful about talking about Lena (or anyone) as a romantic possibility to other people. When Maggie was talking about Lena a couple months ago as an inevitability, Bianca got annoyed and said that Maggie was making a lot of assumptions about what she was going to do. When Erica brought up Lena a couple of weeks ago, Bianca said only that they'd been spending more time together and that it was wonderful, but cautioned against assuming a reunion. She's told both Lena and Maggie that she can't think too far ahead, and I think that is pretty much what's going on with her. She has so many other, more immediately pressing, things to worry about and things are looking quite bleak at the moment. Her New Year's Eve cheeriness when she was talking to Lena about how the future seemed full of possibilities was extremely fleeting.
Plus I think there's an odd paradoxical feeling as well of wanting not to jinx things. She kind of displayed that from the start of her affair with Lena--for example, the morning after when she told Lena she realized that last night might have been just last night. You can't really blame the girl--usually whenever something good happens it's immediately blown to pieces. She gets an "I love you" from Frankie and promptly catches Frankie in bed with a guy, and then Frankie winds up dead. She gets an "I love you" from Lena and promptly catches her stealing. She makes plans for a romantic European summer vacation with Lena and is promptly raped. etc. She told Lena early on that she always has a feeling of impending doom following her around whenever she's happy and her life to date really hasn't done anything to dispel that. At the moment she's probably mentally fitting herself for an orange prison jumpsuit, so no wonder she's not waxing about romance.
I've stopped going to Lianca boards entirely, just because it seems you have to be miserable all the time to ship Lianca (No offense to hardcore Lianca peeps. You have a right to your frustration.) and Kaidan seems less than certain, while Kinks is just mad amounts of fun.
I generally stay away too these days. It's not that I'm not a hardcore Lianca fan. But Lianca was never, and isn't now, the only reason why I watch AMC, so it's a lot different for me than when I was watching AW only for Jake/Paulina. If they weren't on, then I didn't watch the episode at all, if they were on but not together, I would still often skip the ep. Alicia Coppola's Lorna was the only other reason besides Jake/Paulina that I would watch an AW episode. It also helps that I'm really pretty optimistic about Lianca's future as a couple (though perhaps I'm in denial), so I don't mind waiting while other things take their turn on the frontburner.
seneca724
Jan 27, 2004 @ 4:53 pm
For the Kenlee fans (yeah I know the other two will be on too):
All My Children's Dream Team -- Pine Valley Pals for the Straight Gal!
ABC's popular daytime talk show, The View, is gearing up for a profusion of soap-related segments in February. On Thursday, Feb. 5, All My Children's "Fusion Four" -- Rebecca Budig (Greenlee), Alicia Minshew (Kendall), Terri Ivens (Simone) and Amelia Heinle (Mia) -- will guest star on The View and demonstrate some of the chic makeup secrets they've learned as the dyna-forces behind Fusion, Pine Valley's oh-so-trendy cosmetics company. The Fab Four will then work their fitness and fashion magic on one lucky viewer, who will receive a complete "Fusion Four" makeover (with sensational results!).
Interesting title...
kariyaki
Jan 27, 2004 @ 4:57 pm
I've watched this damn show for what seems like an eternity, I'm definitely not in it for the Lianca.
I guess Greens shares Binky's parental sex interruptus gene.
So, it's parental coitus interruptus and pyromania that are Montgomery traits. Interesting.
Mysticks Muse
Jan 27, 2004 @ 4:58 pm
Alicia Coppola's Lorna was the only other reason besides Jake/Paulina that I would watch an AW episode.
God I wish those Lorna episodes would air on Soapnet out of order. I loved Coppola's Lorna, until black leatherwearin'/casual dressin' tough girl Lorna was replaced by pastel wearing Robin Christopher, who I like, but who I hated in that role.
Maybe I just have straight girl crushes on soap actresses named Alicia, cause I still watch anything that I know Coppola's going to be in.
Door Lean of Flirty Enticement
Ahh. Thanks. I understand now. I still have the clinic reveal, the Kendall breaks down at Bianca's apartment episode, and the Bianca tells Kendall about the baby episodes all saved on my satellite's version of TIVO.
So, Kendall and Ryan are engaged. I guess now we can assume for certain Kendall's going to be convicted.
Mystic0
Jan 27, 2004 @ 4:59 pm
It also helps that I'm really pretty optimistic about Lianca's future as a couple
Really? Cool. I may not enjoy Lianca the Net Experience but I adore the couple. I must because I promised myself long ago (after Sarah, Psycho!Laura, and Frankie) that I would
never get caught up in Bianca's romantic life again. Then Lianca blew that promise to hell and back. Which is a credit to Eden and Olga really, they're damn good at what they do.
Greenlee, who was witty and deliciously malicious, has now just turned into pathetic and desperately bitchy.
Someone suggested a few days ago that this might be a transitory phase for Greens that would lead her to a very different place. Hopefully, one of some emotional growth that isn't solely dependant on a lover (like Leo) 'changing' her. I'm holding on to that like a drowning woman because I lurve Rebecca and it pains me that Greenlee is sucking this badly.
Black Knight
Jan 27, 2004 @ 6:26 pm
will guest star on The View and demonstrate some of the chic makeup secrets they've learned as the dyna-forces behind Fusion, Pine Valley's oh-so-trendy cosmetics company.
ABC's gone over the deep end mixing fact and fiction. At least, I hope so, because if the actresses are really going off the lessons they've learned from the Punisher, we'll have to see Alicia pimping floral wear. Snerk.
I still have the clinic reveal, the Kendall breaks down at Bianca's apartment episode, and the Bianca tells Kendall about the baby episodes all saved on my satellite's version of TIVO.
Hee. Were it not for the fact I only just got the Tivo hooked up a couple of weeks ago, I'm sure I'd still have some of those eps saved on the hard drive too, along with the Kinks boathouse ep. But instead I have to go search for the videotapes (which I've been doing my usual slacking on labeling, to boot) to re-watch those. Now Lianca marathons are much easier for me, because I have almost all the pre-Voldemort stuff on DVD.
I promised myself long ago (after Sarah, Psycho!Laura, and Frankie) that I would never get caught up in Bianca's romantic life again.
Hee. She's so unlucky, I know. I was really annoyed when Frankie was killed off, and when the January boathouse stuff aired, I figured that was it for Bianca, and maybe Eden's job as well. Then Lianca blew in, and I'll be very happy watching them for as long as they're on, which I do think will be a while longer, but nearly all soap couples come to an end eventually. But at least now we've got one Bianca pairing that can never be broken, because they're sisters. Heh heh.
So, it's parental coitus interruptus and pyromania that are Montgomery traits. Interesting.
Ooo, good point,
kariyaki. The whole Bianca/Greenlee/Kendall gene mix means we can finally determine exactly what traits derive from the Montgomery side and which from the Kane side.
Someone suggested a few days ago that this might be a transitory phase for Greens that would lead her to a very different place. Hopefully, one of some emotional growth that isn't solely dependant on a lover (like Leo) 'changing' her.
It wouldn't surprise me. AMC's been hitting the theme of Greenlee being an outsider in her family pretty hard (I just loved Reggie snarking on her about that last week--sure it was kinda mean, but she's being a mean bitch anyway, so I don't care.), and her general lack of emotional connections. Much like McTrash did with Bianca's growth, she may be thinking that since she wasn't around for Greenlee's growth of the last year or so, she wants to just tear it down and do it all over again. However, I fear that Frankenbrow will be the one to lead Greenlee to a better place. Oh well, at least it'd free Kendall to go back to Aidan. Better Rebecca than Alicia be sacrificed at Cam Math's altar.
Sappy
Jan 27, 2004 @ 6:50 pm
Northwest Afternoon Cindi Rinehart's show
SCOOP for next week:
Bianca will confide in Maggie about wanting to leave town, and to the surprise of everyone, Maggie will kiss Bianca....and then run off and Kiss Jamie...
Cindi: Last April, Bianca and Lena made daytime history with this very sweet kiss , it was a milestone for the soaps...now since deciding to keep Michael's baby, Bianca leaned on Lena and Maggie for their love and support...and Bianca will confide in Maggie about her intentions in leaving town...
and much to Bianca's and Maggie's surprise, Maggie is going to lay a Smootch on Bink...oh no...Mags will immediatly run off, and run into Jamie and kiss him? Is there something about Maggie that she is not admitting to herself? And how will her friendship change with Bianca? You will have to stay tuned, it will be interesting...
Black Knight
Jan 27, 2004 @ 7:16 pm
Drive-by kissing, very mature. I hope Bianca doesn't waste energy running around PV trying to find Maggie to talk about it.
What's this about Bianca leaving town? Sigh. It's like she, Kendall, Lena and Maggie all take turns with that. Hmmm, maybe Kendall tells her about Erica trying to stab her to death and the Sisters Kane decide that Bianca needs to stick with the original plan of leaving town to have her baby. I certainly wouldn't feel safe telling Erica about the baby after what she pulls with Kendall.
Anyone else think the Maggie assault is the "pleasant surprise" for next Tuesday? Stupid AMC. If it were Lena or Kendall mackage, yes...
Mystic0
Jan 27, 2004 @ 7:21 pm
What kind of asshole blitz attacks a kiss on someone recently raped? Smooth move there, Maggie.
CKD
Jan 27, 2004 @ 7:25 pm
I can't imagine that would be the "nice" surprise!
That spoiler has to be proof that speculating at TWoP is a dangerous, dangerous thing. Am I the only one who's looking forward to the Baggie kiss? Naggie smackdown is a good thing.
Black Knight
Jan 27, 2004 @ 7:26 pm
Especially when they live together, Mystic0, in a studio, no less.
Well, at least it doesn't look like AMC expects us to root for Maggie here, not with this behavior which is in direct contrast to Lena's non-pressure and non-confused devotion.
CKD, in a perverse way I too am actually looking forward to it. However it doesn't appear a smackdown's coming--for one thing, Naggie apparently runs off too fast. (Lena would get mad, of course, but I suspect Bianca probably wouldn't tell her about it.) I'd love it if Bianca just rolled her eyes and went right back to helping Kendall get...acquitted.
CKD
Jan 27, 2004 @ 7:35 pm
There's no question that Bianca won't smack Maggie around: I was referring to my own smackdown in the recap - and I'll have no problems with it at all. I wonder how the post-kiss will work: will Maggie definitely tag herself as "straight" or will she turn bi?
Is it time to yawn yet?
Black Knight
Jan 27, 2004 @ 7:44 pm
Yeah, I suspect we'll all have a field day with it, CKD. Snerk. I just want to see Psycho!Maggie. Please? Bianca arrives home to find her duckie floating in a vat of acid from Maggie's O-Chem class...
CKD
Jan 27, 2004 @ 7:47 pm
[QUOTE]Bianca arrives home to find her duckie floating in a vat of acid from Maggie's O-Chem class.[/QUOTE]
Bwah! Oh, that would be almost too delicious. Almost.
merlin
Jan 27, 2004 @ 10:59 pm
Word Ktaborn..........I miss Lena too!!!!! Please someone write a story for this character so a talented actress like Olga isn't wasted!!!!
boris
Jan 28, 2004 @ 12:00 am
Much like McTrash did with Bianca's growth, she may be thinking that since she wasn't around for Greenlee's growth of the last year or so, she wants to just tear it down and do it all over again.
Black KnightI share your worry that Ryan's going to be the one to "redeem" Greens all over again (sigh). As much I'm annoyed by the whole "Greenlee gets redeemed by a dude" storyline again, I'm even more dismayed that said dude is Ryan. The whole
"Ryan gets Greenlee to remove her ring" kinds of scenes seem to point to that as well. I'm kind of surprised with all of McTavish's chemistry experiments nobody has thrown Greenlee and Boyd together, but he's probably too much of a good boy for her. I think that the writers really painted themselves in a corner with regard to Boyd by making him too much of a nice guy. Nice isn't interesting, nice is boring, which is probably why the writers have no idea what to do with him. Greenlee, like many have pointed out, is very much like Erica and needs somebody who can take her on her own terms. Ryan might be the right character, but bleh. JP is also too much of a good guy as well. Despite his protestations, he's never really seen Greenlee be completely evil. Sure, he did the fake seducing Mary thing, but he was really skeeved the entire time. He doesn't really get the depths of her inner bitch. I mean that in a good way, since I used to enjoy her character, and the fact that somebody could be, God forbid, complicated.
2deadcows
Jan 28, 2004 @ 12:18 am
I'm a little confused about the upcoming Fusion Girl stint on the View...what's the point? Did I miss something by skipping a few episodes? Aside from becoming the plot device by which to devolve Greenlee (Devo!Greenlee), Fusion hasn't existed in quite some time and we’re long past the UnSexiest Gay Man in America contest for this to be some weird tangential tie-in. (Aren’t we?) Bah. Maybe TPTB are thinking of reviving Fusion. I guess that would fit if McHack wants Greenlee and Erica to lock horns with each other professionally in the longterm, as past spoilers/McTrash interviews have indicated . Or maybe there's a dearth of talk show guests and it's ABC Daytime’s turn to fill the roster. Or maybe Frons is just a pimp addict who's been reduced to pimping a product post-mortem. I mean, the highs from the UnSexiest Man contest and Voldermort PSAs and “You never thought we’d do it” ads could only last so long.
P.S. A very belated thank you to starrynight5 for providing the Leslie Hendrix (aka Judge Lambaste) link. “Hendrix.” Even her name is kickass.
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