kariyaki
Jan 4, 2004 @ 12:55 pm
Well, there was that fun Joni/Borie HoYay, too.
Ah yes, even though I was often the only one to see it. Just another thing to miss Joanie for. *sniff!*
I'm glad they haven't had room for the Lily storyline so far. Mentally handicapped characters aren't a good idea because one: the writers often dick it up because they know nothing about the subject and two: you can only do so much with that character. It has limits once the initial story is done. A great example of that is Stuart and his seven appearances for 2003.
Bringing Danielle Frye in for Reggie is definitely a good idea. But if the actress sucks and/or the chemistry between them sinks, I'm going to be crying for Joanie even more than I already do.
Black Knight
Jan 4, 2004 @ 1:44 pm
Torturing characters is standard McTrash--she never lets up. Bianca, Kendall and Greenlee are all clearly slated for nothing but trouble, trouble, trouble. No wonder all three actresses seem to jump on the occasional happy moments they get and start glowing so much I have to adjust my TV to compensate. They know to make the most out of whatever little they get because it'll be right back to the usual turmoil in another minute. I'm still kind of amazed when I think of everything McTrash put her big GL couple, Lucy and Alan-Michael, through (why yes, the trouble started with Lucy getting raped, why do you ask?).
And I agree with you, kariyaki, about Lily. Plus there would've been the squick factor, as Reggie and Lily are both adopted children of Jack's. Like you, I'm also worried about what the actress playing Danielle will be like, being that casting on AMC has been hit-or-miss and shitty execution is ever McTrash's hallmark. Plus, while MBJ is talented, I think he's still green and his acting somewhat dependent on who he's appearing opposite in scenes. If saddled with a lousy actress, I think he'll be dragged down, and I hate to think of not liking Reggie.
Mystic0
Jan 4, 2004 @ 2:32 pm
So Erica will try to be supportive? Creeeeeepy. Maybe Bianca's noticeable distance and the fact that her most favored daughter would sooner lie and flee the country than confide in her, has been enough for Erica to grow up some? Nah, she's up to evil. For Bianca's own good, of course. {sarcasm}.
Speaking of Reggie, doesn't he have a mom and sis tucked away somewhere? Would his mother have to give up her parental rights for Jack to adopt Reggie?
Black Knight
Jan 4, 2004 @ 3:14 pm
Depending on exactly what Bianca says to her, I could see Erica retaining just enough of the little common sense she has to recognize she'll lose Bianca altogether if she vocally opposes the pregnancy, especially as it is now too late to get Bianca to abort anyway. Not only is it about the baby, but Kendall's murder defense hinges partly on her fake pregnancy and Erica has to recognize that Bianca won't take jeopardizing Kendall's defense kindly, either. Erica cannot go running all over PV screaming about this. And Erica, for all her faults, actually does not want to see Kendall in jail and convicted, especially not for murdering the creep who raped Bianca.
I'm going to guess that this is actually something of a good-faith try on Erica's part, out of desperation and the knowledge it's too late for an abortion--she might try to talk Bianca into adoption, now, but otherwise restrain herself. Plus it sounds like from the spoilers like all three women are reaaaaally busy with the murder mystery fallout and wrapup. But then when Bianca and Babe are probably stuck in the same remote cabin and giving birth at the same time (rolling eyes) and Babe's baby is stillborn, Erica won't be able to resist the window of opportunity...and since she's been pretending to be reasonable, Bianca and Kendall won't suspect anything.
I forgot about Reggie's sister--it would be interesting to see her show up. I assumed his mother was dead, though, because I don't remember Jack talking about getting her to sign away her parental rights in order for Jack to adopt Reggie.
kariyaki
Jan 4, 2004 @ 4:52 pm
Reggie has more than one sister. I remember him saying sister
s. The last I heard, Jack had told Reggie that he saw to it that his sisters were placed in good foster homes and not orphanages. As for his mother, she's a crack addict that abandoned him and his sisters. If she can't be found (as I believe it is the case), then I think it's open season for adoption on him.
Even if she does show up and contests it, it wouldn't matter, as Reggie is old enough to decide for himself who he wants to live with. This I know because there has been many a divorce in my family. Custody battles rage for years but as soon as a kid hits somewhere around the teens is when the judge will rule which parent the kid will live with based on what the child wants.
I finished the little counting thing for the year.
bluedevilblue
Jan 4, 2004 @ 5:32 pm
Cameron Mathison was on 93 times? More than David Canary, John Callahan, and Marcy Walker? I stopped watching in July, more than halfway through the year and before his return and he still had that many episodes - amazing. I know you all joke about it being the Ryan Lavery show, but you aren't f'ing kidding. I hope for your all's sake that he's either improved as an actor or McTrash keeps him silent and shirtless.
Black Knight
Jan 4, 2004 @ 5:39 pm
Yeah, Reggie's mother would never be able to wrest custody of Reggie from Jack, not at Reggie's age. I think there has to be some kind of good-faith attempt that has to be made to find the birth parent before an adoption goes through, but otherwise it's smooth sailing. Sisters, huh? I'd definitely like to see at least one of them on. Jack may have found good foster homes but I'm willing to bet the sisters think Reggie still has the best deal of any of them, especially once Jack marries Erica Kane. There could be some interesting race/class/family issues explored. On second thought, let's leave that for McTrash's successor.
Thanks for the count--looking at the rankings, I think in the December 2003 count I'm most surprised by Aidan's rank. I thought he'd been in more eps than that. No surprise that Kendall was in every ep of the month. For 2003 overall, I think I'm most surprised by Jack's count--I didn't think he'd been in that many. But then many of his episodes were in a more supporting role, so that's probably why my impression's off. Looking between 2003 overall and December, Simone and Mia are clearly the ones taking the worst hit, because of Fusion all but disappearing. I wonder if AMC is going to bother to keep Simone on. It's a shame, since of the two I would much rather dump Mia.
ETA: bluedevilblue, no and no. Unfortunately. I'm just desperately hoping for them to hook him up with Greenlee so I can FF him. As long as he's appearing in scenes with Kendall I can't.
ETA again: kariyaki, I just caught up on your recaps and laughed at this part: "I’ve got two words for you, Mumbles. Background. Check." Actually, Mumbles said that that guy was like a brother to him. The second JP said that I knew he was a traitor. But if he can blow up JP, Mia, and Ryan, I'll be eternally grateful to him.
kariyaki
Jan 4, 2004 @ 6:22 pm
I know Mumbles said that guy was close but this is the second time someone has pierced his inner circle. All his close confidants should have background screening to see if they might be in any sort of financial problems, as well as seeing if any of them might have family members that could be threatened. Because I'm betting that either reason is why Mumbles's friend betrayed him. He should just live in a bomb shelter and be done with it.
Cameron Mathison was on 93 times?
Cam was on 89 times. It was Olga that was 93. Sad, though. Olga was on ALL year while Cameron has only been back for 5 months.
5 months, y'all. I feel like shrieking.
Black Knight
Jan 4, 2004 @ 6:31 pm
Dear like-a-brother Jose probably betrayed Mumbles because Mumbles's mumbling drove him nuts. Justifiable homicide.
I bet Eden didn't think at the start of the year that she'd end up coming in fourth in appearances. When I went looking for her most recent post, I came across the post that she'd made last January and in that one, she was talking about how she hadn't been working much and addressing the rumors that she was on her way out.
2deadcows
Jan 4, 2004 @ 6:38 pm
Cam was on 89 times. It was Olga that was 93. Sad, though. Olga was on ALL year while Cameron has only been back for 5 months. 5 months, y'all. I feel like shrieking.
Don't bother shrieking. Cameron Mathison has more than filled the allowable quota.
What really makes me weep is Max Alex's total -
83. He was on more than David Canary, y'all. And DC plays
two characters. It's also a damn shame that Tomy Dunster had more airtime than Julia Barr, Marcy Walker, and Finola Hughes (despite Finola having had a major storyline). McTaint really got her fluff on during the last part of the year.
Edited because Marc Menard is a pretty, pretty man.
kariyaki
Jan 4, 2004 @ 6:46 pm
I bet Eden didn't think at the start of the year that she'd end up coming in fourth in appearances. When I went looking for her most recent post, I came across the post that she'd made last January and in that one, she was talking about how she hadn't been working much and addressing the rumors that she was on her way out.
Oh, I'm sure she didn't. Checking the numbers for January last year... Four. She was in four episodes. Morgan and Joanie were beating her. There was a marked rise in her usage around April and she really started topping out in July, the month of Voldemort.
newyork1
Jan 4, 2004 @ 6:51 pm
kariyaki,
My goodness, how long did it take you to do that? I have to hand it to your attention to detail.
Interesting outcome, especially Ryan's time: 89 appearances in 5 months. If I may, the mathematician in me just has to do one thing: extrapolate (annualize) the results to reflect the entire year. In other words, given this "trend" over 5 months, if Ryan was on AMC for the entire year, that means he would have had approximately 216 appearances. With his appearances annualized in this way, that means in terms of 2003 appearances, he was second only to Kendall. And, that says it all.
But, I, too, am with Black Knight on this one. As long as Kendall is in the scene, it is hard to FF. One of the reasons I like Kendall is because she has a big edge to her and doesn't take crap from anyone - most especially from Ryan (and let's not forget Ms. Hart has one big heart). Now if there was only a way to keep her in the scenes while editing him out of it. Oh, and I agree with those who prefer Kinky to Kenlee. How can you not love a "couple" called Kinky. :}
kariyaki
Jan 4, 2004 @ 7:33 pm
My goodness, how long did it take you to do that?
Not that long. First off, it was a work in progress all year. For each day, I'd make a little tick mark next to the character name, then add up the numbers at the end of the month. Then I added up the numbers again at the end of the year. The most time-consuming part was typing it all out. Good thing I can do like 60 words a minute.
By the way, I made an edit in my numbers. I put in how many episodes there were for the entire year, which was 251. Which means there were only a scant 30 episodes that Alicia Minshew did not appear in. Wow.
Black Knight
Jan 4, 2004 @ 7:54 pm
Oh yeah, I meant to ask you how many eps total there were,
kariyaki. Wow indeed--but not surprising. It was a rare day Kendall wasn't on. It's also a real testament to her that despite being on every single day most of the time, I'm not sick of her. Few characters, actors, couples can hold up to that kind of exposure and overexposure. I think it's because she got so many different things to play and do this year, and because she interacted with so many of the other characters. (As opposed to say, the GH Unfab Four, the ones most notorious and reviled for their constant presence, because they did the same damn thing every day--stare, blink, say the same old "you betrayed me!" lines etc.--and they basically only appeared with each other.)
Edited because Marc Menard is a pretty, pretty man.
Wow, indeed. What a terrific body. Has he taken off his shirt even once on AMC? That's absolutely ridiculous that the show's keeping him all clothed and in storage. I really can't believe the show missed the chance to throw Marc and Alicia in bed together one damn time--Boyd's wrong for Kendall, but their chemistry was smoking.
kariyaki
Jan 4, 2004 @ 8:06 pm
I'm not surprised by the numbers for Alicia's appearances either. She's on a LOT and I'm not sick of her either. It's very rare for that type of thing to happen. The only other instance I can think of is Jessica Dunphy on ATWT. According to another board where a poster was counting, she leads the show in appearances similar to Alicia (but she's not on quite as much).
The "wow" was less about surprise and more about--when does poor Alicia find time to sleep? Has she just moved into the AMC studios?
Oh, almost forgot the Marc Menard question. Yes, he's appeared shirtless once. Once [/Johnny Dangerously] It was about a year ago when Kendall duped him into posing for test shots. She was supposed to be in them with him but got stuck dealing with Maidan crap (and the hilarious tire-changing debacle) and Mia ended up doing the poses. I have a screencap of it somewhere, I'll try to find it.
SkiffyPup
Jan 4, 2004 @ 8:08 pm
Marc looks more butch with darker hair. Oh, and a hotbody like that who CAN act was backburnered in favor of de la mumbles and carless? BWAH! Butch the boy up and give him some screentime already! If you are going to release NuVal, and you shouldn't ... make him the murderer! Please include a topless Michael/Boyd fight scene.
JillLeigh
Jan 4, 2004 @ 8:28 pm
For those of you who are Mitchel Federan/little Petey fans I just wanted to let you know I had the pleasure of seeing him in The Boy From Oz as the young Peter Allen a couple of weeks ago and he was fantastic. Next to the delectable Hugh Jackman I thought he was the best part of the show. He is way too talented for any ABC soap that is for sure.
DrCher
Jan 4, 2004 @ 8:30 pm
Wow, kariyaki. Thanks for the stats.
kariyaki
Jan 4, 2004 @ 8:36 pm
Found it.
Boyd's one-and-only shirtless appearance on... (checks...) January 15 last year. I am all about that attention to detail.
gspiggott
Jan 4, 2004 @ 8:39 pm
I remember shirtless Boyd and then he was trying to be all mad at Kendall and just couldn't . Why can't we have him chasing Kendall every day? They should never have made Boyd wear turtlenecks.Does anyone else wish we could get a flashback to the "Lena wants me. No Lena wants me." routine he and Binky used to do. That was a fun triangle.
ETA Yowza ! Thanks Kariyaki that was worth the search. Does every man in Pine Valley make a pit stop with Mia on the way to Kendall, ruler of the valley?
kariyaki
Jan 4, 2004 @ 9:06 pm
Hee, it sure seems like Mia is used as a waystation sometimes. But that really was just an innocent, chemistry-free photo shoot. The photographer compared them to tundra, she was so underwhelmed.
Mystic0
Jan 4, 2004 @ 9:16 pm
The photographer compared them to tundra, she was so underwhelmed.
(snicker) That photographer was
such a bitch.
bluedevilblue
Jan 4, 2004 @ 9:43 pm
Boyd looked straight in that screencap. Mia still looked dumb. I guess some things you can't fake.
Black Knight
Jan 4, 2004 @ 10:17 pm
Ah yes, I'd forgotten about the photo shoot. Yum. And then Jake showed up and we had to listen to how Jake/Mia were the true chemistry couple.
Does anyone else wish we could get a flashback to the "Lena wants me. No Lena wants me." routine he and Binky used to do. That was a fun triangle.
Yes, it was. Of course, the irony is that it's Eden and Marc who had the chemistry, not Marc and Olga. I remember one day when Boyd leaned in to face Bianca and told her that he thought they both deserved better than Lena. About blew my TV up. But that's Eden for you--not far behind Alicia in sparking with actors and actresses. Really, if AMC was to go by who typically has chemistry with what genders, Bianca should be the bisexual, Greenlee should be the gay, and Maggie should be asexual and in a convent. Anyway, I miss the Bianca/Boyd friendship.
kariyaki
Jan 4, 2004 @ 10:38 pm
I'm almost afraid to think of what Kendall would be. I think her refrigerator was about ready to light up a cigarette after that scene last week.
Black Knight
Jan 4, 2004 @ 10:42 pm
Oh, I'd definitely steal Sam's term from Sex and the City--trisexual for Kendall. Try anything once, that girl will...hee.
Mystic0
Jan 4, 2004 @ 11:07 pm
I miss the Boyd/Binks friendship. I hate they dropped it. It wasn't quite on par with Leo/Binks but still all sorts of cute. I wasn't feelin' the Boyd/Lena chemistry, either. I remember the one time they kissed, I fell into a fit of giggles. It didn't help that they kissed right after the eyeshag-a-thon between Binks/Lena when they dropped Boyd's chemistry toys. As far as the Eden/Marc chemistry, too bad Bianca grew out of the habit she had of randomly molesting her best guy friends (The Leo/Binks mackage was wrong but oddly hot.). Then maybe you'd have an excuse to buy a new TV.
Really, if AMC was to go by who typically has chemistry with what genders, Bianca should be the bisexual, Greenlee should be the gay, and Maggie should be asexual and in a convent.
Hee! Poor chemistry challenged Rebecca...
Dude, Bi!Binky would be fun. You could ship her with just about anyone she isn't directly related to. Well, and quite a few she *is* related to. Bi!Kendall wouldn't be fair. She's already got a monopoly on all the men (Not to mention her siblings. Before Kinks, there was Trey/Kendall IncestYay), PV would probably grind to a halt if she were on the market for women too. I never really wanted Boyd and Kendall to couplefy but damn they were pretty together.
Black Knight
Jan 5, 2004 @ 12:13 am
As far as the Eden/Marc chemistry, too bad Bianca grew out of the habit she had of randomly molesting her best guy friends (The Leo/Binks mackage was wrong but oddly hot.). Then maybe you'd have an excuse to buy a new TV.
Hee. They looked like they were about to get down right there on the desk. It would've been hella fun if AMC had thrown in a twist and made Bianca the center of the triangle. Eden and Josh definitely had chemistry too, and you know that if the decision hadn't been made that Bianca would be gay, those two characters would've hooked up for sure, so I didn't find the Leo/Binks mackage all that wrong. Hee. I remember AMC making Bianca say a few times that she had no sexual desire for Leo at all to offset their chemistry, and Leo insisting that Bianca was like a sister to him, but still threw in a couple of kisses anyway just to satisfy people. I also remember Josh saying that if Leo could have a threesome, he'd pick Greenlee and Bianca. Saw her as a sister, indeed.
I didn't want to see Boyd and Kendall as an full-on couple, either, but they should've gotten to have one sex scene. Come on, this is a soap, on the shallowest level soaps are about seeing pretty people get it on.
Bi!Kendall wouldn't be fair. She's already got a monopoly on all the men
It'd be hilarious, actually, if both the Kane sisters were bi and cutting a swath through town. Can you
imagine Erica's face? She'd probably check herself into a convent in order to find some peace. And then she'd discover her sister nun is Naggie, and end up checking out again.
(Not to mention her siblings. Before Kinks, there was Trey/Kendall IncestYay),
Yup, that's Kendall the trisexual--she'll try anything once, including her own siblings. Oh come on, I had to say it. Hee. You know the reason Binks is able to kiss Lena now is because she and Kendall had that couch brainstorming--er, sponge bath--er, cleaning up--er, dammit, something platonic that's-not-an-euphemism session before.
In other news, the next sled to hell leaves at midnight west coast time. Clearly I'm going to be first in line for it.
SkiffyPup
Jan 5, 2004 @ 12:36 am
Ah yeah. Eden cannot help that she is the hettiest het in the hetiverse. Notwithstanding Lianca chemistry... If she and Budig swapped roles, I'd wager Bud would kick her little het hotlips ass right out of the Bianca role. But for Budig ... Lena would be hella-tall. ( Oh man, we sound fannishly odd.)
You can catch a sled to hell? And here I've been crawling on endless miles of razors. Who knew?
Mystic0
Jan 5, 2004 @ 12:37 am
I also remember Josh saying that if Leo could have a threesome, he'd pick Greenlee and Bianca. Yup, that's Kendall the trisexual--she'll try anything once, including her own siblings.
Since I chartered the sled, any chance either (or both!) of these might be on hell's pay per view? Hell would be hot for entirely different reasons. Mmmm....... Damn, if I know which I want to see more. (We all know Greens has a few 'issues' she needs to work out. She certainly fixated on Bianca's sexuality enough. So Greens/Leo/Binks action......*rowr* Then, there's Kinks, nuff said.) Hell, why choose!
You know the reason Binks is able to kiss Lena now is because she and Kendall had that brainstorming--er, sponge bath--er, cleaning up session before.
Naughty girl! Please never change...
I agree that Kendall and Boyd shoulda got down. Yepper, all for that. The thing with Kendall is, I have no idea who the longterm man for her would be. Kaidan is hot as hell, but as a daily couple (unless they make out daily), I'm not so sure how exciting it would be. Aidan, although three shades of yummy, isn't all that defined. Kryan, well, just makes me cry. Maybe down the road they'll find a guy that truly matches Kendall in her all around fabulousness but till then...... Play that field, girlfriend! 'Cept Ryan's field......ick!
SkiffyPup
Jan 5, 2004 @ 12:42 am
Kendall and Lena! Initially in a contrivance plot to make the Binks jealous and come to her senses ...
kariyaki
Jan 5, 2004 @ 12:56 am
It'd be hilarious, actually, if both the Kane sisters were bi and cutting a swath through town. Can you imagine Erica's face?
Oh my God, I think that would be the funniest thing ever. It would be like when Erica was younger, only four times as bad (two slutty daughters with just a single sexual preference would be x2; Bi? x4). You wouldn't be able to swing a dead cat around town without hitting someone a Kane sister had slept with.
Black Knight
Jan 5, 2004 @ 1:09 am
Since I chartered the sled, any chance either (or both!) of these might be on hell's pay per view?
I agree with you, why choose? Both, please. I'm sure Satan can afford two TVs. Oh, and a third, for the alternate PV in which Kendall and Binks are both bisexual and promiscuous. Word,
kariyaki. Hee.
Ah yeah. Eden cannot help that she is the hettiest het in the hetiverse.
Oh, I wouldn't say that at all. She's had chemistry with Olga, Alicia, Rebecca, Liz's Frankie, and even damn Amelia. Then throw in the men--Marc, Josh, Aiden...yeah, Bianca should be bisexual while big sis outdoes her by being trisexual. Oh well.
I actually don't think I've seen Olga have chemistry with anyone at all outside Eden. She's fun to watch, but doesn't spark sexually, with any of the other women or even the two men she was paired with onscreen.
The thing with Kendall is, I have no idea who the longterm man for her would be. Kaidan is hot as hell, but as a daily couple (unless they make out daily), I'm not so sure how exciting it would be.
I think Aidan is kind of Kendall's Jack, except she's never done half the stuff to be with him that Erica was willing to do to be with Jack. That said, Aidan's kind of turned into the guy you write Kendall off the show with, unfortunately. There's no way AMC is going to have Erica Kane Next Generation settling down with anyone as long as she's on. As such there really is no thing as Kendall's longterm man--there's the constant merry-go-round of boyfriends and then the guy to write her into the sunset with. Good thing she can keep her girlf--er, sister around for that longterm stable relationship while she gleefully goes from guy to guy. Plus the occasional
business and
catfight sessions with Greenlee. All that ought to fulfill even Kendall's voracious trisexual appetites.
bluedevilblue
Jan 5, 2004 @ 1:16 am
It'd be hilarious, actually, if both the Kane sisters were bi and cutting a swath through town. Can you imagine Erica's face?
Oh my God, I think that would be the funniest thing ever. It would be like when Erica was younger, only four times as bad (two slutty daughters with just a single sexual preference would be x2; Bi? x4). You wouldn't be able to swing a dead cat around town without hitting someone a Kane sister had slept with.
That storyline would be the funniest thing ever and would inevitably catapult AMC to the top of the ratings. [hint]It would also single-handedly redeem McTrash's career.[/hint]
I caught about 5-10 minutes of AMC today when I was flipping channels. I got sucked in by Mary/Adam kissing - that was hot! Then had my stomach turned by Tad making out with some trashy woman in the OnlyHotelRoom in PV (Krystal, I presume?). When I can't be entertained by Tad with a woman, that's just sad. I don't think I've ever seen MEK not have chemistry with an actress. Even Rebecca Buddig has chemistry with him. Maybe I'm missing something, but CarLess's vortex of suck seemed to have settled over Tad and FauxDixie. I stuck around (or to be more accurate, checked in periodically) hoping for more Adam/Mary goodness (I am so Anna Stuart's bitch), but I got nothing.
Black Knight
Jan 5, 2004 @ 1:30 am
Somehow I kind of figured that the mother of all Making Erica Lose Her Shit potential storylines would pull you out of lurking, bluedevilblue. ;-) And I agree, Y&R would no longer be #1 the day the hijinks started. God, can you imagine? Inevitably Kendall and Bianca would wind up having had a couple of the same partners, and we'd get lines even better than Kendall's immortal "Your girlfriend is sleeping with my boyfriend!"
You didn't miss anything else of Adam/Mary mackage--they kissed the episode before too, but in the background of Lianca's kiss. The kiss you saw was the same style (down to Mary kicking up her legs, hee), only done better and with the definite agreement that they'd go have sex. Plus there was Brooke's double-take as an added bonus.
And yes, it was Bobbie Eakes's Krystal that Tad was with. They don't really have much chemistry to begin with--she actually has quite a bit of chemistry with Adam, believe it or not--but the stop/start dragging-it-out shenanigans really killed it altogether.
kariyaki
Jan 5, 2004 @ 1:36 am
Inevitably Kendall and Bianca would wind up having had a couple of the same partners, and we'd get lines even better than Kendall's immortal "Your girlfriend is sleeping with my boyfriend!"
Ah, my second favorite line ever. (First place being Tad's "I can't feel my thighs.") Also, really, in that scenario? I'd kill to see Kendall and Bianca comparing notes on lovers, male and female.
I lurrrve Adam and Mary. I can't believe those in charge think older people are incapable of being hot. They're obviously not even watching. Or if they are, they're only watching Tad and Krystal. Ho hum. Emphasis on the "ho."
bluedevilblue
Jan 5, 2004 @ 1:40 am
That WAS Brooke I saw. I thought I was hallucinating.
And I hadn't even thought of the Erica Lose Her Shit Potential. I believe she's already been in a convent (sorry I missed THAT), so maybe a spiritual quest in the Far East?
I lurrrve Adam and Mary. I can't believe those in charge think older people are incapable of being hot. They're obviously not even watching. Or if they are, they're only watching Tad and Krystal. Ho hum. Emphasis on the "ho."
I think that's why GH never shows Alan and Monica together - their chemistry would only highlight what a joke Jip and Numily are. Here's a nice rule that ABC should learn - couples with chemistry are fun, couples without it are painful. Age is irrelevant. Speaking of having chemistry with everything - Anna Stuart does. I've seen her with Kale Browne, Tom Eplin, Matt Crane, David Canary and she had chemistry with every one of them. She even managed to bring out the HoYay in Susan Lucci.
Black Knight
Jan 5, 2004 @ 1:51 am
Also, really, in that scenario? I'd kill to see Kendall and Bianca comparing notes on lovers, male and female.
I'm starting to cry. Partly from laughter, partly from the knowledge that we're never going to get to see this, dammit! Someone write a damn fan fic, please, in which they bed most of the town and then sit down together and dish everyone.
(And then inevitably agree that in the end, they're really the best, because no one is better in bed than a Kane Woman, and go off to take a sponge bath together. Actually, they can have the entire discussion while taking said sponge bath. <snicker>)
Oh look, here comes Satan. He couldn't wait for the sled and is making a personal visit to get me and escort me to the seventh circle of hell.
ETA:
bluedevilblue, I have always been sorry that I missed out on Anna Stuart and Tom Eplin. Not that I didn't see sparks in later years, but I'm sure the original flirtation and one night stand was hot. And yes, I can't think of anyone she didn't have chemistry with. There was Charles Keating and David Forsythe too. And David Canary had great chemistry with Robin Strasser, another woman past her spring chicken years, too. But of course Robin's well taken care of on her own show, and with the yummy younger Tuc Watkins to boot, proving ABC isn't completely blind.
bluedevilblue
Jan 5, 2004 @ 1:56 am
I'm not sure Erica would agree that anyone - not even her daughters - are better in bed than she is. Though how the 3 of them would settle such an argument is NOT something I want to see. You, Black Knight, might feel differently. Or maybe not. Hey, you wanted hell. You got it. Sponge bath for trois. Go to sleep with that image in your head. ;-)
ETA - Anna S. and Tom E. were h-o-t. And at the time of their one-night stand, Michael was being a total asshat, so I didn't even have to feel guilty about liking Donna/Jake (not that I was ever a big Donna/Michael fan). Someone in the AW thread said that AS has a combination of arch coolness and wanton sexuality, or something like that, and I agree. I want to be her when I grow up, can you tell?
kariyaki
Jan 5, 2004 @ 2:02 am
Eek! That is a hell of an image to live with. Yeah, okay, we definitely need a fanfic here. Who's good with creative writing like that? I'd do it but the most creative I can get are those fake diary entries in that other thread.
Speaking of having chemistry with everything - Anna Stuart does. I've seen her with Kale Browne, Tom Eplin, Matt Crane, David Canary and she had chemistry with every one of them. She even managed to bring out the HoYay in Susan Lucci.
Anna Stuart even managed to have chemistry with this new Jamie, who I hate. I'd probably like him better if they went for THAT instead.
2deadcows
Jan 5, 2004 @ 2:04 am
Good Lord! Well, I surely won't be able to sleep now, bluedevilblue. That is one scary mental image that even a Clorox shooter won't cure.
Black Knight
Jan 5, 2004 @ 2:05 am
Well, I did say Kane Woman for a reason. ;-) I'm sure Kendall and Bianca bow to the master, the one who passed on the great Kane gene in which anyone who sleeps with them has the best sex of their lives, and never, ever gets over it, even if it was one night together. That said, Erica has never slept with a woman, so she'd be at a disadvantage there. A really smart guy would ask to sleep with all three of them, one at a time, and then skip town before he has to answer the question of who's the best.
bluedevilblue
Jan 5, 2004 @ 2:05 am
Anna Stuart even managed to have chemistry with this new Jamie, who I hate. I'd probably like him better if they went for THAT instead.
Well that would be one way to get rid of him. I'm not sure any of those weak, model boys could survive a night with Mary. Why yes, Jacob Young, I'm looking at you.
2deadcows
Jan 5, 2004 @ 2:07 am
Well, if you take that attitude, Black Knight, then Bianca and Kendall should really be thanking Mona for their mad bedroom skills. That sponge bath is getting crowded. Gah!
Edited to say...and on that pervy note, I am a Video Archivist. Yay?
kariyaki
Jan 5, 2004 @ 2:07 am
Someone write a damn fan fic, please, in which they bed most of the town and then sit down together and dish everyone.
Although, actually, it'd be funnier to hear them complain about people who are bad in bed. "Ryan has no staying power, he was done in four minutes." "Well, what about Mia? Women are supposed to know what they're doing!"
Mona!? Gaaaaaah! Incest and necrophilia. We've really lost it.
bluedevilblue
Jan 5, 2004 @ 2:13 am
A really smart guy would ask to sleep with all three of them, one at a time, and then skip town before he has to answer the question of who's the best.
That has Tad written all over it. Except for the "really smart" part. Actually seeing Tad trying to evade, avoid and weasel out of answering could be fun!
Black Knight
Jan 5, 2004 @ 2:14 am
I took complaining and warning each other off of particularly bad lays for granted as part of the dishing, kariyaki. Hee. Ryan's such an obvious candidate. Plus there'd have to be some conflict in that a person might be more passionate in bed with one of them. I could see Kendall complaining that Lena's a little perfunctory and then hearing that Lena will go at it all night with Bianca. Hee. And Aidan would be more interested in Kendall.
I know there's at least one terrific fan fic writer lurking here who posts on Olga and Eden's boards. One of her fan fics was just loaded with TWoP shoutouts (snarking on CarLess, Maria and Edmund's annoying perfect love, and so on) and I remember the writer commented at one point that yes, she did read this board...
ETA: Congrats, 2deadcows. What a post to achieve that on, huh? Serves you right for throwing Mona into it...bwah!
2deadcows
Jan 5, 2004 @ 2:29 am
Oh, I just know my mother would be so proud of my accomplishment, Black Knight. Must not let mom know about TWoP. Ever.
Finally watched Friday's episode today. Loved, loved, loved the Kenlee scenes. I can't help it, no matter how shrill they write her, I *heart* Greenlee. "C'mon, let me put my hands on the little devil," indeed. Heh. But, man, did I feel sorry for RB's neck and back during the Greenlee/Ryan macking. Still can't get over kariyaki's ep count. I was checking to see the Naggie (heh) tally and noticed Terri Ivens' numbers...guess all that time in the slammer with the prostitutes really paid off for Smoan.
ETA: This Video Archivist thing...does it come with a pipe? Because I suddenly feel like wearing a smoking jacket and reading War and Peace.
Black Knight
Jan 5, 2004 @ 2:46 am
Ah yes, War and Peace, where the big incest issue is that one couple can't marry because the brother of the woman is already engaged to the sister of the man, ending happily(?) when the brother dies before getting married, clearing the way for his not-so-grieving sister to marry her true wuv. Yeah, it wasn't acceptable in those days for sibling-in-laws to marry. How times have changed, from Nikolas/Marya (and from my great-grandmother laying a curse on her own two sons for marrying two sisters at the wedding of the second couple) to Kinks. Hee.
Anyway, yes, you get the pipe. Fanatics get cheap gold watches.
kariyaki
Jan 5, 2004 @ 2:55 am
Wait til you hit Stalker. You get a telescope.
I took complaining and warning each other off of particularly bad lays for granted as part of the dishing
Ah. I always equate "dish" with speaking glowingly about something. "Trash" is for when you're ripping someone to shreds.
You know, there ARE people I wouldn't want Kendall and Bianca to sleep with. Like... ummm... hrm. *throws wad of paper for cat to chase* Okay, I can't think of anybody. Not anybody alive (because I wouldn't have wanted either of them anywhere near Carloser).
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