» 1-6: "Guests of Guests" 2009.07.28 Options

[WitsNSass]

What in the hell is a Devorah Rose? She is revolting. Glomming onto an 18-year old?? It shows the lengths people will go to in order to be on camera. I don't care if it helps your "magazine". You, madam, are an idiot. And bashing a 17-year old girl ("What is her drama") is beyond ridiculous. As a fellow NYCer, I will do everything in my power to run this Devorah Rose thing right out of town.

To answer your first question, this is a Devorah Rose! I was close on the real name. Jessie nailed it that Debbie is not a real New Yorker. That might make Jessie sound pretentious, but NYC is known for people coming from East Bumblefuck to Manhattan (or one of the other boroughs) to "reinvent" themselves. Kadooz to Jessie! I guess people who don't glom onto more age appropriate "friends" (Bethenny) are reduced to trolling the school yard. Sad! And what's worse is that a sheltered 17 year old was hip to her game (I guess Debbie's game aint so tight). It was so obvious that PC's entourage were not his friends.

I can't even get mad at PC, he's young and naive. Kid's still got milk on his upper lip - just a baby who doesn't know as much as he thinks he does. I think he'll learn someday. I look at all of them that way. I think they'll look back at all this "drama" when they are older and have a good laugh at themselves! Even Jessie!

Sebastian is just not cute, IMO. Once you get past the "lady hair", there's not much to look at. PC might be metro and all, but at least he's cute!

[Maire]

While I am under the impression that PC is bisexual (at least) I am not under the impression that he wants it discussed on TV, seeing as how he has not mentioned it! So what is up with Taylor's talking head?

Maybe he thought it would be better if someone else mentioned it? Either wasy he should listen to Jess who seems like a true friend to him.

[Taiade]

The episodes are just getting better and better. Really loved this episode, and PC's entourage, did look like they were using him, because of who is family is. I think on some level he realises that, but believes it is better to have user friends than none at all. He likes to cultivate the image of the bad boy prodigal son (ala Paris Hilton) but unlike her, he does have some redeeming qualities when he is alone, or with Jessie.

Kelli, trying to start a music career, by showing your image is manufactured is not a great start, what doe she want to be the next Avril Lavigne?

Sebastian, the whole French thing is old already, is that all he does, go on one date and prefer to speak French, then go around saying, he hooked up with them.

Taylor outed PC, I don't think that is cool, since he himself as not admitted to it and maybe it is not something he wants to discuss openly. Of everyone on this show, I think she will have the hardest time, when school starts, cause Jessie and PC have graduated, but Taylor is the one proclaiming herself a gold-digger and outing people on national TV.

[Blue Bonnet]

Gotta chime in with the chorus here - this episode made me really like Jessie.

That first scene with Taylor, Cole, PC and Kat was heaven for me, as PC and Taylor are my two fave prepsters. I love the Taylor/Cole relationship but I feel the producers are going to ruin it next week by introducing Cole's ex. Ugh. I thought it was so sweet when he told her he could picture her in one of the haute couture outfits.

Don't care about Kelli and Camille.

They just need to give PC/Jessie a Will & Grace-themed spin-off already.

[paradig_m]

I think Kelli is very cute but far too mousy to become KELLI!-with-a-heart-over-the-I. It's super-awkward to watch Kelli talk about her musical aspirations. It's just not going to happen.

And PC made yet another Patrick Bateman comment this episode, something about putting a bag over Kat's head and killing her. LOL! Oh, wait, that's fucking creepy.

[berrysnarky]

That first scene with Taylor, Cole, PC and Kat was heaven for me

Is it me, or have we seen that scene before?

I think this was the most boring episode yet. And that's saying a lot.

I saw Cruel Intentions again a few nights ago (love that movie) but PC is definitely attempting to channell Sebastian Valmont (spelling?). The opening scene where Sebastian is with his shrink... totally duplicated by PC with the whole, "sex, drugs, it's all too much" speech.

And I see the Patrick Bateman in him as well. (LOVED LOVED LOVED American Psycho) If I hear him try to make reservations for Dorsia...

He's a combo of them both, I think. Two really great guys to emulate!

This post has been edited by berrysnarky: Jul 29, 2009 @ 12:52 am.

[antrob26]

ANOTHER straight-haired brunette? Is that all they have to pick from?

She looked like she could eat Sebastian alive. I liked the smackdown she gave him over the public school comment.

That first scene with Taylor, Cole, PC and Kat was heaven for me

Is it me, or have we seen that scene before?

That scene was shown in the preview episode before the show "officially" started.

I'm started to question the taste of Jessie - she didn't want to meet from Cherie from 30 Rock? For shame. So PC wanted to introduce her to someone but she didn't want to meet her, that's fine - but then why take his seat and act so immature?

Really loved this episode, and PC's entourage, did look like they were using him, because of who is family is.

I didn't really get that vibe - nothing was shown/hinted at that at all. It seems like they can get into a lot more clubs (he hadn't been to Buddha Bar) than he can. Are the photographer and the other skinny dude that much older than he is?

Taylor outed PC, I don't think that is cool, since he himself as not admitted to it and maybe it is not something he wants to discuss openly. Of everyone on this show, I think she will have the hardest time, when school starts, cause Jessie and PC have graduated, but Taylor is the one proclaiming herself a gold-digger and outing people on national TV.

Seems like the whole arc of PC on the show is geared toward a coming out of sorts. Just look at the preview for next week's show and the comments that have aired from everyone (tight pants, metro, dates boys and girls.) That's not really outing from Taylor. I don't see people at her hs going, "we love PC and then you may have/kinda outed him" so we must banish you. It's a 15 yr old girl gossiping, about something we all have speculated on.

[ThatPoshGirl]

Cole walks like a fat person. I wonder if he has an obese parent.

[Bonvoys]

PC thought Cole and Taylor were making shallow comments at the fashion show? PC's brilliant fashion commentary consisted of things like "That's awesome." Heh.

I liked Camille thinking it was funny that Kelli was getting a stylist, but come on Camille, you hired someone to "clean out" your closet. And while Kelli's "When I'm famous" musings are eye roll inducing, I think that PC looked like the bigger douchebag in that fight. And despite what PC tried to make it out to be, she wasn't screaming at him.

I found Jesse to be slightly more likable in this episode, but maybe it's just because she was not having any of Devorah. I have seen both Devorah and Matt from Charlotte Ronson on two other reality shows, and I don't think it's a coincidence that they magically ended up on this one too.

Ok, Does Sebastian even SPEAK French fluently? The girl asked if he was French, and he says "....OUI!" I had my doubts since he went on the date with the last girl and was disappointed that she spoke French. He's so boring. "She knows Cole AND goes to public school?!" I really don't buy him as the player the show sells him as, most of the girls he goes on dates with don't seem to fall for his act all that much.

[CapsChick]

I kind of loved Kelly this week, from rebuffing Sebastian and refusing to be his "backup," to telling PC she felt like she was fighting with a chick. Good stuff.

Sebastian is a tool. So Kelly blows off his awkward attempt to re-engage with her and that makes her "kind of bipolar?" He is clearly borderline obsessed with Taylor, and it's becoming creepy. That girl he went out with was way out of his league and he still managed to be a complete douche.

I didn't hate Jessie in this episode and that's saying a lot. She seems genuinely concerned about PC, which is nice. He doesn't seem to have anyone else looking out for him. I'm still wondering why PC feels "betrayed" by the show (that was mentioned someplace a few weeks ago - maybe NY Mag?).

I'm pleased when Camille's screen time is minimized because I find her very difficult to look at.

[maconbacon]

My impression was Jessie's boss seemed really intrigued by PC and his entourage. Did anyone notice how excited he was asking her all sorts of questions about them? I just didn't get the vibe that Jessie was "in trouble." When Jessie and PC met at the coffee shop, did he offer to send a note because he felt bad for his lack of manners in bringing people, or because he realized he brought some inappropriate user scumbags? I tend to to feel he just felt bad for the lack of social etiquette and wished he'd just gone to Buddha Bar with Devorah et al instead.

[poeticlicenced]

This episode did not go well for PC. From him bringing people to the party when Jessie only invited him to his spat with Kelli, where he lied afterward and told Jessi that Kelli confronted him "right here on these steps", when in fact he asked to speak to her, tried to give her a half-a##ed apology and got mad when she called him out about it. Nothing more high school that fighting over who is more mature, PC. Just goes to show how really immature he is. And Jessi was dead on about PC's entourage. She comes from money, she understands about users and she also understands about common courtesy. It is not cool to bring a bunch of hangers on to a party where you have been invited without checking first. And PC is a perfect target for users. He's young, rich and conflicted. I can see why Jessi is worried and protective.

Kudooz for Jessi. Whoever said she was wrong about quitting her internship, I disagree. The girl wants to get some experience. There is nothing worse than volunteering (which is essentially what an intern does) and left standing against the wall. BTDT, I'd not come back either.

Sebastian is a little boy who thinks if he dates "older girls", it will make him cooler. Um, no. When his date asked if she could touch his hair and he said no that wasn't cool, I LOLed. Um, isn't that the point of a date, idiot? To get the girl to touch you? And his hair flipping is skeeving me out, who does that over a plate of food?

I am becoming more convinces that Taylor is not too smart. Maybe she and Sebastian really do belong together.

[The Closer]

I find myself generally liking all these kids and even halfway enjoying this show. I'm sure neither of those things are a good sign.

I certainly don't agree with everything they say and do, but I look at them as a bunch of kids and I don't see any of them as being truly evil (at least not yet). I did think that PC was probably being used by his entourage - when you have cameras following you and suddenly pick up new friends? Yeah, it's likely that you're being used. While I thought Jessie was right about that, I also thought that mostly her motivation to say what she did was out of jealousy. There was nothing about the scenes they showed that indicated that her boss was truly upset or had a problem with it. I do believe she cares about PC and that he cares about her but I also see him eventually moving on from that friendship as he meets new friends and eventually he'll begin to spend less time with her. I think she sees the writing on the wall and that's what makes her so emotional over it. I don't find any of that unique to them or their NYC lifestyle. When we all get to the end of high school there is the realization that the friends we've had for years are likely to start growing apart and it's difficult.

[WitsNSass]

My impression was Jessie's boss seemed really intrigued by PC and his entourage. Did anyone notice how excited he was asking her all sorts of questions about them?

I didn't get that impression at all. I don't think he cared for them being there, but he kind of softened his tone when he saw Jessie about to have a meltdown because she thought she was in trouble. Seriously, there was nothing intriguing about any of them - I just think he wanted to know who the fuck they were. Devorah Rose is a ridiculously obvious hanger-on (her affected speech patterns seriously grate), and the guys looked like two tweakers to me. He might have been interested in PC, the one Jessie actually knew, but my impression is that he was passively aggressively letting her know not to let that happen again. YMMV.

I find myself generally liking all these kids and even halfway enjoying this show. I'm sure neither of those things are a good sign.

I certainly don't agree with everything they say and do, but I look at them as a bunch of kids and I don't see any of them as being truly evil (at least not yet).

I feel the same way. I've always thought of myself as a mature, intelligent teen who was wise beyond my years - but maybe, just maybe the adults in my life then see me the same way I see these kids now - naive and a little clueless. My heart does go out to them, though, because they face a lot more "stuff" than I did when I was a teen in the 90s.

[Cookie Hoarder]

I don't think Taylor outed PC with malicious intent. I think it's just another one of those things, like "I want to marry someone rich", that she's not smart enough not to say. She knows he's bi, and all their friends know he's bi, and it probably didn't occur to her that maybe all of Bravo's audience didn't.

Or, equally possible, there could be shady Bravo editing at work. We don't know when the interview segment was filmed. There may be a scene later where PC outs himself on camera and then Taylor is asked about it in her interviews, or the producers asking questions for the interview segments could have just said flat out, "PC's bi, right?" and she agreed.

I'd believe either of those scenarios before I believe that she just decided to out him.