» Danny Gokey: Scream On Options

[TWoP Gadget]

Guys, I'm assuming you're reading the other threads from the last AI season as well (and, BTW -- I don't know why this season's contestants are getting people so much more riled up than last year's -- but that's another story for another time).

If you're not -- then let me bring the same example I used in the Kris/Adam/Alison thread over here.

Danny is not going to be buying a billion dollar house on the beaches of Maui anytime soon. He's not going to be asking for change at Costco, either. Quit trying to shoehorn him into a "ultimate success" or "ultimate failure" scenario.

Also... I have very... very... very little patience for chart and spins minutiae. It's very "inside baseball" and all it does is bring us back to the "Danny's a success!"/"Danny's a failure!" argument again.

Love him, fine. Hate him, fine. Leave room to disagree with everyone else and be civil. Thanks.

This post has been edited by TWoP Gadget: Jan 18, 2010 @ 12:47 am.

[TheFinalRose]

I find it amusing that so many people are totally obessed with this guy. I am not talking about the fans - but his critics who do not like him. Yet they follow him around and spend a lot of time and energy - paying attention to what he says - good or bad. It's true, what they say about Danny Gokey - he can get people to pay attention to him. And in this business, that's better than being ignored.

I follow Danny online because the guy puts his foot in his mouth so often that he is so much fun to follow. I laugh and laugh and that feels good. However, my interest in Danny will never translate into me spending money on anything he does.

On the other hand, I am not checking in too much or following much of what Kris Allen is doing right now. All I know is that I love Kris and will probably buy two of his CDs when they come out just to support him, and I cannot wait to hear his album. I'm not obsessed with following Kris, but he can have my money anytime he has music for sale, he is that good, IMO.

[iknowright]

I was under impression that most of the crowd is there for Adam.

At both the Ontario and San Diego shows that I attended, Danny had about the same amount of support as Adam did. Considering that these two cities are in Adam's next of the woods, I'd say that is pretty impressive.
I'm not a Danny lover (although he was perfectly sweet and charming when I met him), but the dude has a lot of fans.

I disagree with the sentiment that it was Danny's fans that gave Kris the victory though but I won't get into that here.

[southernbelle32]

The bottom line here is that 19 passed on signing him. They took a good look at the guy and obviously didn't see someone who was worth investing in for the long term. That says a whole hell of a lot, especially given the way the judges pimped him to death all season. It says that 19 more than likely breathed a sigh of relief when Danny got booted in 3rd place.

Everytime that I think about Danny not getting signed by 19, I think of the quote that Simon Fuller gave about being too old to push water up a hill. He said that he's tired of signing people who aren't going to work as hard as he will for their careers, and that in the future, he would be a lot more selective in who he signed. Meaning that while it would be automatic that they would have to sign the winner, nobody else, including the runner up would be guranteed a contract.

Given what I've heard about Danny's attitude toward learning new music, singing the duet with Kris, and his attitude in general in regards to improving himself as a singer, I don't think how he could have felt that Simon or anyone else could have witnessed that, and feel compelled to sign him. I don't care how much he shoots off at the mouth (even though that does look bad), or that he messed up during one song, the lack of motivation to work hard is just not something that can be overlooked. And just based on my own perception that Danny was in the contest more to win it than to get a record contract, and his actions now seem to have more to do with him thinking that he is still competing with the three who were signed, so I don't know why a serious and credible label would sign him.

[kirklandagain]

At both the Ontario and San Diego shows that I attended, Danny had about the same amount of support as Adam did.

Of all the reviews and recaps from those shows that I have read that is the first time I have heard that. I really doubt Danny gets near the same response as Adam. From those who have attended the shows apparently people get so worked up towards the end of Danny's set in anticipation of Adam that the bleed over is incredible.

[sunalsosets]

I find it amusing that so many people are totally obessed with this guy. I am not talking about the fans - but his critics who do not like him. Yet they follow him around and spend a lot of time and energy - paying attention to what he says - good or bad. It's true, what they say about Danny Gokey - he can get people to pay attention to him. And in this business, that's better than being ignored.

Yeah except this is TWOP where a main focus is snarking on those you don't like. I don't see how that translates to the fact that "people" are paying so much attention to Danny. Hell, with as much snark as he gets here, his thread is only a little over 200 pages while Kris' thread is more than twice that number and Adam's thread way past that. So I really don't see Danny as this major controversial/polarizing figure who gets the masses talking. Rather as somewhat of a buffon who amuses a few posters.

At both the Ontario and San Diego shows that I attended, Danny had about the same amount of support as Adam did. Considering that these two cities are in Adam's next of the woods, I'd say that is pretty impressive.
I'm not a Danny lover (although he was perfectly sweet and charming when I met him), but the dude has a lot of fans.

No offense but I usually take statements like this with a grain of salt and it's not just for Danny. Everyone's perceptions of situations is different and sometimes other factors come into play. To me, unless you somehow are able to take a poll of every individual that attends a show, it's hard to make an accurate assessment of who had the most supporters or which individual had the second largest number of supporters and what not. I mean sometimes you have people who support someone but see no reason in being loud and vocal about it, so they are not considered as being a supporter. It's a hard thing to accurately judge - imo.

This post has been edited by sunalsosets: Jul 21, 2009 @ 12:05 pm.

[iknowright]

No offense but I usually take statements like this with a grain of salt and it's not just for Danny. Everyone's perceptions of situations is different and sometimes other factors come into play. To me, unless you somehow are able to take a poll of every individual that attends a show, it's hard to make an accurate assessment of who was most there for which person or that one individual had the second largest number of supporters and what not. I mean sometimes you have people who support someone but see no reason in being loud and vocal about it, so they get dismissed as a supporter. It's a hard thing to accurately judge - imo.

I completely agree with that, however I was basing my assessment off of the amount of people on their feet dancing, screaming and cheering during Danny's set. In my section it seemed comparable to that of Adam's. The screams were deafening when Danny took off his jacket during Maria, Maria..I mean deafening. Maybe it was just where I was sitting though. Then again, just because the screams are louder, doesn't necessarily mean the contestant has the most support either. Some sets elicit a louder response because they are more flashy and like you said, many other factors involved and there is really no way to account for that unless you were to take a poll.
Like I said, I'm not a Danny fan, just making a statement based on what I observed. But of course, mileage may vary.

This post has been edited by iknowright: Jul 21, 2009 @ 12:15 pm.

[kristo]

iknowright, what's ther reactions to Danny's serman session for the two nights you attend?

[iknowright]

I personally did not observe any adverse reactions. Danny's set was very well recieved both places, including his speech.

This post has been edited by iknowright: Jul 21, 2009 @ 12:37 pm.

[guano loca]

Count me in as someone who is amused by Gokey's buffoonery. He is a an average to competent singer who is completely full of himself. Bo Bice has said repeatedly that you have to guard very carefully against that very thing. The Ego of Cheese is getting a big head and has now racked up many, many instances of just plain dumb/clueless/obnoxious behavior. Every Idol contestant over 8 seasons has a certain number of fans out there, but it is the sales figures that are the cold, hard facts record companies go by. How many people yelled and cheered for Blake during the Season 6 tour? His shitty attitude and douchebag behavior have not exactly put his career into the stratosphere have they?

Time is going to reveal who has what it takes to last in this industry. VH1 runs those one-hit-wonder list shows all the time. The music industry chews them up and spits them out all the time. Gokey is being naive and IMO is not willing to do the hard work required of people in this profession.

We all love to come on TWoP and snark on these Idol stooges. It is a lot cheaper national pastime than baseball. :)

[gadzoocus]

At both the Ontario and San Diego shows that I attended, Danny had about the same amount of support as Adam did.

I wasn't at Ontario, but I was in San Diego and I really have to respectfully disagree. When Adam came on, I literally had to cover my ears because it was so insanely loud and it stayed at a high roar for the entire set. Danny was well-received, but there was no comparison.

[ilovebacon]

The screams were deafening when Danny took off his jacket during Maria, Maria..I mean deafening.

Did it go something like this?: "Put that jacket back on, you fat, smarmy fuck!!!" I know that's what I'd have been yelling....

[ItsMeantToBe]

Danny Gokey was perhaps the night's most engaging performer, as he worked the crowd with the fervor of a worship leader (no surprise that he is a church music director). He sings with a gritty Southern gospel flair. Pair that with crowd pleasers like Michael Jackson's "P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)" and a show-stopping reading of Rascal Flatts' quasi-inspirational "My Wish," and the guy has the potential to be a great showman.

Congratulations to Danny on the great critical review from Arizona.

[theNightFog]

I think the ultimate compliment any performer can wish for - is to have the ability to connect and engage their audience. And that seems to the recurring theme of Danny's reviews on tour. He's always gotten such an unfair rap from his critics. But now the most important critics have spoken - the people who are spending money to see him - singing and dancing along to his performances.

Danny stayed true to who he is - and is now getting some well deserved affirmation from the audience.

[ohbrother]

Worship leader + gospel + Pretty Young Thing = icky.

[Maracev1]

Don't forget, he sings the words "Pretty young thing" immediately after Allison has finished her Barracuda performance. In fact, she's still being pulled down on the stage platform elevator when he starts singing that verse. It's so unintentionally funny.

Danny's set is just so bizarre, no real cohesiveness there. Is he soul/pop? Is he latin r&b? Is he country? What the hell is he?