» 14-11: "After The Final Rose, Part 2" 2009.03.03 (recap) Options

[Prof D]

My husband who normally watches what ever crazy reality shows I want to watch and never really complains, even gets into it sometimes as well, said to me "No more of this series - I won't watch it again. You can if you want, but I'm done."

Aaahhh, I love that! Where'd you find this great guy? My husband thinks I lose 10 IQ points every time I watch one of the reality shows I love. He hates them all and thinks less of me for liking them.

ITA about Stephanie --- when she uttered these words, "I think he did the right thing." I almost gagged. She certainly does try to see the positives, doesn't she? Even if there are none.

And ever since an earlier poster said that Jason looks just like Mr. Bean, I cannot get that out of my head when I see him. Thanks for that.

This post has been edited by Prof D: Mar 5, 2009 @ 11:33 am.

[Your Grace]

Jillian sounds like she's hyperventilating when she speaks. So annoying.

Also, if you stare at her to long she starts to look really homely.

Molly is kinda fug and Melissa although she seems nice enough is a dime a dozen when it comes to looks. Seriously, you walk into any bar in America and see 6 or 7 or her on the dance floor.

[Celina]

Also, if you stare at her to long she starts to look really homely.

Jillian resembles her mother and most likely will look exactly like her as she ages. Not that this is a bad thing, but seriously, I don't see her as a girl that men will stampede over one another for. I agree with Reality Steve that her season will probably be a lot like Meredith's. Just hope she gets someone better than Ian (gag).

This post has been edited by Celina: Mar 5, 2009 @ 12:03 pm.

[WholahayBrown]

Alas, this is the opinion of all the men I know who watched the show. (OK, four men isn't exactly a representative sample, but whatever). The consensus was "nice girl" but nothing special in the looks department. My co-worker said that nice and sweet is a bonus but guys want the hot, gorgeous one regardless of what they say they want. I love honest guys!

Many of you will want to hurl hot steaming poo at me for this, but I don't think Melissa is all that. She's cute and perky. That's about it. Every young girl working in my office is prettier than her. She didn't say anything during the entire "process" that suggested she's particularly bright or curious about the world. To me, she just came across as another young silly girl waiting for her prince to come and whisk her away so she never has to grow up. Boring. I hope this experience jolts her into reality and into adulthood. She's twenty-five years old, for pete's sake. It's about time.

Well, most of the guys who go on the Bachelorette are either recruits or famewhores, so it probably doesn't matter if Jillian isn't conventionally hot. And then of course they can always create the illusion (through styling, makeup and just plain old PR) that she's hotter than she is, which the franchise has pretty much done with everyone anyway. Jen is a pretty good model for that.

And this brings me to your second point. I agree with you about Melissa, but I'd go further and say that after all these years of this show, very few people, if any, have been all that. I mean really, what truly exceptional person would go on this show? This show attracts sort of average looking women with nice bodies who've probably always wanted to act or model but really never had a hope of actually doing that, aside from appearing in the local paper when they were on the cheerleading squad or in the running for Prom Queen, women who might not be stupid but certainly aren't particularly intellectual, curious or interesting, women who think it would be so great to get the final rose and be on the cover of In Touch, or at least last long enough to get noticed and parlay the fifteen minutes into a stint as the weather girl on the local TV station.

[MystikMinx]

I can't believe that he iced Melissa (pardon the pun) after the finale and then has the nerve to complain that she wasn't able to communicate properly with him in the real world. From what I saw, HE was the one who didn't bother to communicate, he just started cheating straightaway.

From what I can see he can't communicate at all. Why did you break up with Mellissa? "I dunno. Chemistry changed." Why did you want Molly? "I dunno...but she has ammaaaaaaaaazing eyes!" Why did you throw Melissa under a bus when you really wanted Molly all along? "I dunno. Producers made me do it."

From listening to him (and reading those emails), the man has the communication ability of an aadvark.

[Madmarsha]

This show attracts sort of average looking women with nice bodies who've probably always wanted to act or model but really never had a hope of actually doing that

Now, don't let "super attractive" Natalie hear you say that. You've hit the nail on the head. Most of them have a "Vanna White" quality to them (and some, not even that). Vanna's got (had? haven't seen her for a while) a good body and attractive enough but not enough of "it" to become anything more than a novelty "celeb" (Leeza Gibbons and Giuliana Depandi also come to mind though I think GD is really fugly odd looking with the alien shaped face of hers). I've always handed it to VW, tho, for being smart enough to keep her turning letters gig (even tho she did dip her toes into the acting waters but realized that, no, she can't act) and being content with that while having enough of a name to be able to lend it to other things. But it amazes me how the well of people who think this will be their shortcut to fame instead of being in it for the actual premise of the show (matchmaking) never dries up. Most of the early dumpees are too disproportionately mad at being dumped by a man they don't know when they're really pissed about their TV time having been cut short. Some of it is the early rejection, tho. Rejection always hurts, just in different levels. They're all telegenic enough but few of them have that "it" quality that would really allow them to springboard from this into "legit" celeb status.

[Kittenrescue]

ITA about Stephanie --- when she uttered these words, "I think he did the right thing." I almost gagged. She certainly does try to see the positives, doesn't she? Even if there are none.

I get the impression that Stephanie said those things so that she can remain in Jason's life in some capacity. Although it's a mystery why she'd even want to after witnessing what a douche he turned out to be.

My mom thought she looked gorgeous on the ATFR2 (and someone who attended the taping said that she's stunning in person.)

[Squeezer]

I'm shocked she's moving there so quickly - 6 weeks ago this man was engaged to someone else? This is not the foundation of a solid relationship, but then, has the bachelor ever been?

The following is a quote from their interview with

Seattle Times

Q: So you decided to move to Seattle? When?

M: Eventually. It's not a matter of if. I definitely will move out there, but I think we're just going to try to take it slow, move at our own pace and adjust to being a couple in the real world first.

This is code for "I'm going to stall moving until my 15 minutes are up and then we'll be announcing how we just couldn't make it work because all the mean people put so much stress on us we just fell apart."

I'm sure eventually Melissa and I will be good friends." That's when Jimmy snorted and said "Oh, no you won't." The audience loved it.

Raise your hands if you think Molly would even allow this. ...Anyone? ...Hello? Thought so.

[brillia79]

I can't believe that he iced Melissa (pardon the pun) after the finale and then has the nerve to complain that she wasn't able to communicate properly with him in the real world. From what I saw, HE was the one who didn't bother to communicate, he just started cheating straightaway.

Jason Translation: "It's hard for me to understand Melissa when Molly's tongue is in my ear and her fingers circling my shaft. Therefore, I conclude that Melissa is not a good communicator. After all, I'm The Bachelor. Nothing can ever be my fault."

Total dick.

[ZulaMay]

What a joke this guy is. While I don't think Melissa is an intellectual giant, she appeared to have very good interpersonal and communication skills. She has a quick sense of humor and a good heart. Her biggest flaw is her self-doubt. If Jason could not communicate with her, it is due to his own stunted emotional and verbal skills. It makes me ill how Molly was able to manipulate him with her hypnotic bug eyes and constant recitation of you're making a mistake. That, and her apparent ability to make him feel like a bigger man than he is in the sack.

[nikimonikado]

could someone tell me reason for his divorce in the first place.

I'm afraid I don't know the true answer for this, but I learned a little something from one of those tabloid shows last night. Apparently his first wife filed for divorce, calling the marriage "irretrievably broken" and, get this, since she was earning more than him at the time she had to pay him $500 a month child support. Maybe she's still paying, I don't know. But I heard they now share custody and I'm not sure they did from the beginning. Jason certainly made it seemed like she abandoned both him and Ty but we now know that he's quite the lying liar.

edited for spelling

This post has been edited by nikimonikado: Mar 5, 2009 @ 2:34 pm.

[lindslvsmaks]

What a waste that show was. So much filler and I used to like Stephanie but after she went ahead and took Jason's side, yeah not anymore! What a lie in Jason saying he HAD to break up with Melissa on air cause of the contract!!! He could have done it in private! Chris Harrison even said in an interview he didn't have to do that. Also when Jason was calling Molly "his best friend", that must have been hurtful for Jillian to hear. Ugh this show just had the AFTR for ratings. Well I hope Jillian finds what she is looking for, and Jason & Molly live happily ever after...

[Missy Vixen]

This is code for "I'm going to stall moving until my 15 minutes are up and then we'll be announcing how we just couldn't make it work because all the mean people put so much stress on us we just fell apart."

Squeezer, you're right. She's not coming out here. She might get the chance to dump Jason on live TV, though -- I can't believe that Fleiss and his minions wouldn't LOVE that. Imagine the ratings!

Of course, Jason could have avoided all the "moving to Seattle" and custody issues drama entirely by finding someone already living here to date. Then again, I'm sure there's a reason for that. Just like the poster who said there are six or seven women on a dance floor in a bar anywhere in America that look like Melissa, there's a lot of guys hanging out in those bars that are just like Jason -- just fine till you get to know them.

[portabella]

I think going on a reality TV show expecting to find the love of your life is crazy. I don’t know what the real time span is that the contestants spend time with the Bachelor/Bachelorette, but it all seems so forced. Just because a pool of 25 attractive, single people are gathered up and spend weeks or months with a person does not mean they will really/truly fall in love and want to marry the person (because that’s what they’re supposed to do) does not mean it’s going to happen. In fact, the chances of that actually happening are rather slim, IMO. Sure, there will be attraction to one degree or another, but it’s mixed with fun, hot tubs, helicopters, TV cameras, a mansion, etc. Not real-life things like grocery shopping, bills, chores, coming home from work, in-laws and friends on a long term basis, It’s just not real. But viewers love the drama, competition, and especially the ‘fairy-tale’ essence – even though the couples break up later just like Jason and Molly will surely do in a few months. I really don’t have a problem with ABC, the producers, or TPTB nor do I have a problem with the breakup being televised.

Having said that, I have a problem with Jason dragging his son into this – TWICE. As far as ‘going with his heart’, if his heart was with Molly he never should have proposed to Melissa - it's as simple as that. If he wasn't ready to commit to either, he should have said so. And, I don’t see how Jason can hold down a job (unless he took a leave of absence). I also think Jason has some emotional problems that need professional help.

This post has been edited by portabella: Mar 5, 2009 @ 3:27 pm.

[plm75]

He may say he was just following his heart, but by "heart" I think he meant "camera".

I'm more worked up over that fact that he involved his kid in any of this. I would never use my kid as a prop to create some single father, boo-hoo story. Ty should have never been on camera. That should have been non-negotiable.