» Harper's Island: Misty Murder Mystery Options

[chica345]

Hermosa you're making my life very hard. I promised myself after being spoiled on Wellington's death I'd stay away from the black bars.

My thoughts:

Did I miss something? What do you mean, Cal??? Cal isn't in a body bag, although I'm willing to believe J.D. is dead (despite the opinion of other esteemed authors on this board)...but even he's not yet in the body bag with the toe tag. Let's see how next episode begins.

I think the poster meant Cole, since he and JD were working together and Cole seemed to get an arrow to the heart.

But if they give an alibi to either Jimmy or Henry, I'm just going to watch this show without even bothering to think anymore!

I watch this trash with my brain off every week. It’s only when I come here that remember all the inconsistencies.

Danny is the character name for the African-American groomsman

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I’m starting to really like Danny. Although Sully has made some interesting choices (both in regards to how he handled Malcolm and Madison), but Danny seems like a solid stand-up guy. He and Cal seem nice and unlikely to be the killers. This, of course, means they will die.

Hole in gut + blood in lungs? Yep, he's gone to meet up with Kelly.

And suicide pact girl. JD really didn’t have any luck with the ladies, did he?

The thing I can't get to work is the first murder, the cousin on the boat. I don't see how Jimmy or Shane could have been on the boat.

In one of the blog posts think producers mentioned they threw that in to “sell” CBS on the show. Maybe it won’t matter in the scheme of things.

He was by far the most vehement in insisting that everyone had to stay on the island, way more so than Trish (Madison's aunt) and Shea (Madison's mom).

I think this may have been due to the fact he had just got on Trish’s good side again and wanted to prove himself to her.

Funny, I'd remembered that Shane was in jail, but he hasn't been in the show so long that I didn't even recognize him when they showed him.

I started laughing as soon as I saw they were right next to each other in jail. I sort of hoped they would start working together and begrudgingly becoming friends (complete with a bro-hug after the murders stopped when everyone got on a boat to leave), but that can’t happen now.

And I'm bummed, too, that this is the only season they'll do: I'd guess with some time, a bigger budget, and a network that would actually promote the show for what it is, this would have been a really fun summer series.

I wished they had actually showed it during the summer. They started it when fall shows were still showing new episodes. People were already attached to something, they didn’t want to switch.

[annsterg]

And -- where is Shane NOW? Last we saw him, he was telling Abby and Jimmy that he'd show them where Cole's lair was, if they let him out of the cell. Since Abby and Jimmy did show up at the lair, Shane did tell them, so he must be out of the cell. But was he WITH them on the trip to Cole's? because he didn't seem to be there...and if he just showed them the general area and then left, Shane -- who, along with Jimmy, knows his way around a bow and arrow -- could have shot Cole. Of course, that doesn't explain all the other "hands on" kind of murders that happened while he was locked up.... Shane was also not noticeably there at the marina either. So where is he now? Maybe JD's death is not part of the larger events but just Shane evening the score?

ETA: a big thank you to all those viewers who see the show Thursdays and then use the spoiler bars for their discussions. While it's frustrating to have to wait, and hard to resist peeking, I do very much appreciate the courtesy.

This post has been edited by annsterg: Jun 8, 2009 @ 10:26 am.

[deaja]

Wow. That was a good episode. I'm so glad I resisted this thread all day Friday. I wouldn't have wanted to be spoiled!

Shea's wanting them to stay was understandable. Sully's wanting to leave was understandable. Trish's slapping of Sully was understandable seeing as she's a Wellington who seems to be very spoiled, and therefore probably couldn't comprehend someone challenging what she wanted.

Again, with a murderer on the loose, WHY wasn't Madison with her mom? If she dies, I think Shea is as to blame as the murderer! You don't let your young child wander off while multiple murders have taken place!

I thought maybe JD didn't say who the murderer was because he didn't see who it was? So, he's figured out it's all about Abby, but that's all he knows.

The fact that Wakefield was in jail for 17 years, which conveniently is the age Abby was during the first murders makes me more convinced that she's his daughter.

If only the season had started more like this, I would have enjoyed it so much more!

I had forgotten Cal was a doctor, and for a minute when he was like "that's not a child's skull. It's an adult's" I was like "creepy!" but then I remembered. I also don't understand why they acted like Chloe was being weird and creepy when she was listing who was missing and who they knew had been killed. To me it was sensible - who has died? Who may have died or may be behind this since we don't know where they are?

[thuganomics85]

I think the poster meant Cole, since he and JD were working together and Cole seemed to get an arrow to the heart

Yeah, I totally ment Cole and not Cal. I can see why that mistake could be very confusing, since Cal defintely did not seem dead last I check, heh.

[klulu]

Was he killed because he was about to solve the mystery or did he only come to that conclusion while he was being attacked? ("You see, J.D., this is not about you. [stab] This is about Abby. Mwuh-ha-ha-ha!")

I still need to remember Rule Number One, 'cause choking on hot coffee is not fun at all!

My thought was that JD was killed because he knew - or at least the killer thought he knew - what was in Wakefield's diary. Which would mean that the killer could be someone who knew JD spent time with Cole.

Shea has (as of now) suffered the most and worst losses of everyone

It would seem that way, but I don't think the actress is really bringing it to her scenes. Maybe it's just because she's a secondary player, but she's not nailing the level of angst I'd expect given what has happened in Shea's world - especially in contrast to Katie Cassidy's Trish, who's looked hella washed-out and anguished for the past few eps. Shea's make-up and clothing are still impeccable, and other than a bit of frowny-facing and an occasional change in voice inflection, there's not much there.

[annsterg]

Shea has (as of now) suffered the most and worst losses of everyone

It would seem that way, but I don't think the actress is really bringing it to her scenes.

I agree. On the one hand, her restrained reactions might make sense if her character had been developed more, as in we might know that Shea is the "fixer," is always in control of her emotions, her little sister's protector...but we don't know all that. So on the other hand, she just comes across as cold and otherwise not sympathetic or memorable. I do expect Shea to die before the end (spec not spoiler); seems like she "has" to: if Henry lost his brother, then Trish should lose her sister. If/when that happens, Trish will become the "biggest loser" in that her entire family, by blood and marriage, (assuming the spoiler posted earlier about Katherine dying this week comes to pass and that my belief that Madison is dead is true) will have been wiped out...which again could point to either Trish or Henry as the killer.

If all this is "all about Abby," why are the Wellingtons being annihilated?

It makes me sad to think of all the hotel rooms that are now sitting empty with their now-dead occupants' stuff strewn about: Lucy's, with her bridesmaid dress never to be worn now...Marty's...Richard's (it was a nice touch that they showed that), Malcolm's, Booth's, JD's...

Man, I don't envy whoever has to come to the Island and clean up the mess after all this is done.

This post has been edited by annsterg: Jun 8, 2009 @ 12:29 pm.

[Arcadia]

A couple of thoughts on who the killer is. TPTB said the killer is one of the 25. Therefore, it can't be the Dr., guy with the hedge trimmer, etc.

I've been keeping track of alibi's since epi 1. There are only two people without alibis for all of the episodes - Maggie and Danny.

Henry - Was in bed with Trish when Marty was killed
Jimmy - Was with Abby when Cole and JD were killed
Katherine - Was with the girls in the Inn when Cole and JD were killed
Beth - Was with Sully, Chloe and Cal when Cole and JD were killed
Sherrif - Saw Cole die and was with Abby when JD was killed
Cal - Was hanging when Lucy was killed. Was also with a group when Cole and JD were killed
Chloe - Was helping Cal down when Lucy was killed. Was also with a group when Cole and JD were killed
Shea - Was with Trish when Madison got the note. Was with girls in Inn when Cole and JD were killed
Sully - Was helping Cal down when Lucy was killed. Was also with a group when Cole and JD were killed
Abby - Was with Jimmy when Cole and JD were killed
Shane - Was in jail when Richard and Malcom were killed
Trish - Was in bed with Henry when Marty was killed. Was with the girls in Inn when Cole and JD were killed
Nikki - Was in bar when priest was killed
Madison - (eh.. I've discounted her. She's too little)

[grinningdog]

that was a good episode, the best one so far.

i had a theory a few episodes back that the killer was already dead and had set traps for the others and blah blah blah yada yada yada....looks like i was completely wrong - my bad. now i have to admit that i have absolutely no idea who the killer is, or killers are, as the case maybe.

i would like it to be trish and henry although i'm not sure the timelines support that theory.

it has turned out ok despite being very soso a couple of weeks ago.

[over60]

she's not nailing the level of angst I'd expect given what has happened in Shea's world - especially in contrast to Katie Cassidy's Trish, who's looked hella washed-out and anguished for the past few eps. Shea's make-up and clothing are still impeccable, and other than a bit of frowny-facing and an occasional change in voice inflection, there's not much there.

Actually, klulu I think she's just annoyed that this is taking so long to resolve because she knows that if she doesn't get her ass home quick, someone else will run off to Belize with the pool boy.

But cereally, folks, your kid goes missing on Charles Ng (BTW--this story is not for the squeamish) island and the best you can do is have a few people run around yelling "Madison"?? What the fuck happened to the dogs they brought in to track JD? Where the fuck are some real cops from the mainland--I'm not even interested in quibbling about Seattle or Vancouver any more.

[Dragonflyy6]

I don't know how reliable the source is, but apparently the death list for next week's episode is Katherine Wellington and Beth Barrington (The Brunette Bridesmaid).

Hermosa, I can definitely confirm that Beth eats it in the next episode, so I'm inclined to believe your source. I also know for a fact that Madison dies, although I don't know if she's already dead.

At this rate, my only concerns are Danny and Henry; they're the only people left that I care about and, if either ends up being the killer, good for them.

[Nightlark]

Shea has (as of now) suffered the most and worst losses of everyone
It would seem that way, but I don't think the actress is really bringing it to her scenes.

I think she is showing all her anguish through her ginormous veins in her neck. Thanks to whoever pointed that out I kept fixating on that any time she was on screen.

[oakgal]

Dragonfly5, what episode have you seen up to? I am so tempted to ask you a few questions..

[snaggle]

At this point the only thing I would think of laying money on is Abby being John Wakefield’s daughter. Sheriff Mills mentioned one too many times that Wakefield tried to “hurt” Abby’s Mom. I am going with “hurt” being code for either rape or affair. I hope to be proven wrong.

I have been suspecting that Abby is Wakefield's child, but something The Sheriff said caught my ear. I could have sworn he said something to the effect of "he [Wakefield] was gone for 17 yrs., and came back" or something like that. That right there made me think he came back for Abby.

*If someone has the exact quote it would be greatly appreciated.*

[Cardie]

Whoa, I did not think what you reported second in your spoiler would happen, dragonfly. Have you seen beyond episode 9? I know that the entertainment press had access to everything up to that point. For some reason I couldn't get the quote box around the spoiler font. Sorry if anyone saw the spoiler before I edited it out.

This post has been edited by Cardie: Jun 8, 2009 @ 3:20 pm.

[Houddy]

More and more I am leaning toward the theory of two murders who are NOT working together. One committing the Wellington Murders and someone else committing the All About Abby Murders. The deaths are just too not all about Abby. What does killing Malcolm or Wellington or Shea's cheating hubby have to do with Abby, or Wakefield or his being locked up for years. And was does killing Hung Girl or Burnfaced Guy or Deputy have to do with Wellington?

Either we've got one killer who's nuts and just killing whomever, whenever, which fits some of the Islander's deaths, but doesn't work with some of the more clearly planned murders. Plus, if it was truly random, why would the killer leave JD and Shane while killing the Deputy. It's like he went in there specifically to kill the deputy. So I don't think that's the case. But if someone is tying to avenge what happened to Wakfield, or something about Abby, then some of the Wellington deaths don't really make sense.

I can't help but think that Malcolm's death was to stop him from taking the others to Boone's grave, but why? Unless Boone is alive.

I can't stop thinking about Abby's phone and the comment they made about why her phone took that call but a second later couldn't call out because they were getting no service. I don't know what to make of it, but I find it interesting. Unless that line was just the writers hanging a lantern on the fact that she just got a call and now can't call. But they could have just had her make the call and have no one pick up. It feels deliberate to me.

I have to say, the show seems to have hit it's stride this past ep.

And I love Cal and Chloe. Like others, I wanted her dead first ep, but I'm glad she survived because she's become very likable recently.