» Spoilers and Spoiler Discussion: "It's Not What You Think" Options

[TWoP Nikita]

I'm going to pin a post that compiles recent spoilers so that it's easier for people to find them. I'll add new ones and remove old ones every once in a while. No promises on schedule. If you've got questions or concerns about this, you can PM me or ask in the Mod Announcements thread.

Jun 18th
set photos:
http://www.spoilertv.com/2010/06/house-big...to-spoiler.html

This post has been edited by TWoP Nikita: Jun 21, 2010 @ 12:25 pm.

[inanityrules]

There's a new interview up on Spoiler TV, where the writers discuss Kutner's suicide and its fallout in the upcoming eps.

http://spoilertv-house.blogspot.com/2009/0...v-guide_10.html

Some excerpts:

"'The greatest impact is ultimately with House,' previews Katie Jacobs, 'because he's unable to rest with the idea that he did not see it coming and cannot explain it... . He has no resources, no family [to help him cope]....'

"'In addition to seeing House's team, Cuddy and Wilson reel from the death, 'We are going to see, perhaps surprisingly, Chase and Cameron's reaction to it. [We] are going to bring [them] to the forefront a little bit.' Says Shore, 'We will see some fallout with Chase and Cameron in an interesting way. [They] do not have a unified reaction.'"

I don't see how House has nobody to help him cope, because tbh Wilson and Cuddy are both so focused on helping him first and foremost. They're like his own personal shrink, and he'll probably be the one to push them away anyway.

The Chase and Cameron quote sounds interesting. I'm getting a distinct feeling that their "un-unified", different reaction is that Cameron over-empathises with the death of a person she barely knew, and Chase is relatively unaffected (which I think is a more realistic reaction. Deaths outside the immediate family&friends circle can be sad, but they don't tend to otherwise affect daily life in any way.) Either that, or Cameron decides House needs her to cope or something. Her willingness to postpone her and Chase's vacation seems to point to this, as well as Cuddy's envious, "are you in love with House?" reaction to what could possibly be Cameron suddenly hanging around House and trying to help him.

Which sucks, because that would mean a rehashing of Hameron issues. Oh well.

This post has been edited by inanityrules: Apr 12, 2009 @ 11:28 am.

[gant77]

bewarne--- Your welcome! I am sorry I cant locate the exact piece I read. I love though that Ms. Morrison is coming back!

[Juliabohemian]

I don't see how House has nobody to help him cope, because tbh Wilson and Cuddy are both so focused on helping him first and foremost. They're like his own personal shrink, and he'll probably be the one to push them away anyway.

They might be there to "help him cope" but let's face it, how much good have either of them done House, in the past two years. Even when they truly believe their intentions are pure, they somehow end up doing House more harm than good. So Wilson and Cuddy might be right there and in House's face. But as far as helping him cope, I seriously doubt either of them are capable. They seem more interested in helping House in the way that they want to help him, with their own agendas in mind, and not in the way House would really want their help.

[Princess Lucky]

Wait, is it just me or was Taub the only person who ever gave half a shit about Kutner? And apart from the episode of the suicide itself, in which we saw his denial and 3 (very well acted, nontheless) seconds of actual grief, now we'll focus on C&C's reaction to Kutner's death?

Meaning, two people who barely knew him? Because the writers of House want to show us how Kutner's death was SHOCKING and IT WILL AFFECT THE ENTIRE SHOW and IT WAS TRAGIC AND NOTHING WILL BE THE SAME EVER AGAIN!!11!?

When they could have just as easily created tension or whatever they're about to do between C&C as well as increase their screentime (which is welcome by me) by having them discuss or go through a separate issue? I suffered through Foreteen treating Kutner's funeral as their own personal venue for expressing their feelings, but C&C as well?

House having issues with it, I get. Foreteen also interacted with him on a daily basis so, while screentime-hogging, it's understandable they are extremely upset. But C&C? That's entirely contrived. And "Cuddy and Wilson reel from the death"? Really? As if they ever cared about Kutner?

Kutner's death was totally out of the blue and fell flat dramatically. And now the writers are trying to convince us it was actually EPIC!!1! by showing us the massive consequences. Which are entirely contrived and make no sense whatsoever. Kutner's suicide was a contrivance in itself, because the writers wanted a easy way out, an easy way to have House go on a downward spiral and Cuddy to get closer to him and C&C to argue and Foreteen to show their undying love. All of those things could have happened with or without Kutner offing himself. Maybe, as they used to do it years ago, by having those characters relate to a patient or two. Remember that? When patients actually had poignant storylines?

This post has been edited by Princess Lucky: Apr 13, 2009 @ 7:26 am.

[Lauriestar]

I'm actually okay with C&C having a reaction. We've seen them hanging out with The New Team quite a few times (Christmas Party, Cameron doing paperwork, during Survivor). It makes sense to me that they would be affected. In fact, I'd be surprised if they didn't have a strong reaction. The guy killed himself while doing the job they both left. I bet they're both having "oh wow, what if he did this because of the job...could it have been me?" type thoughts.

Eh. That's my fanwank.

[marie81]

Hmm...I can see Chase and Cameron having a strong reaction to Kutner's death. They did interact with him on occasion. The new ducklings sometimes worked in the ER to help Cameron. During the time Kutner had that website as House, he went to Cameron and Chase for advice on how to diagnose the "patient." They hung out at the Christmas party together. They were at Cuddy's Jewish naming ceremony. Kutner has gone to Wilson a couple of times( I think) when he was concerned about how House was acting. These people had an interaction with Kutner. Then he took his own life. It was an act that took them all by surprise. Quite frankly I would have been shocked if they (C and C and Wilson and Cuddy) didn't have a strong reaction.

This post has been edited by marie81: Apr 13, 2009 @ 9:07 am.

[Gemini36]

I could see Cameron in particular having a strong reation to the death, regardless of the fact that it's Kutner. It will probably bring her dead husband issues to the surface, and she may push Chase away in fear of getting too close and having to go through that again. Although we've had basically nothing on Cameron's back story, I have a feeling that she never had any long term relationships after her husband. She took an interest in House, but I think in the back of her mind she knew that nothing was ever really going to happen between them. She may have seen House as the "safe route". She could focus all of her attention on him, but at the same time she knew that he wouldn't let her get too close, so she couldn't get too attatched and end up getting hurt again.

Kutner's death may make her discover that yes, she does like damaged people, but at the same time she doesn't want to get too attatched to Chase (which imo she already is) in fear of having to go through the same thing again.

This post has been edited by Gemini36: Apr 13, 2009 @ 5:20 pm.

[fortuneshine]

NJ.com

Online Article about House filming at Greystone Park Psychiatric Hospital

Simutaneously Hugh Laurie arrived in NY today. Fox Forum

Two guesses: it's either for an episode regarding brother Danny or House is going to be taking a rest at the start of season 6.

I say the later because KJ & DS said it will take awhile to get back to normal House episodes at the start of the new season as a result of the fall out at the end of season 5.
Looks like House will be out of commission and in treatment.
Wilson is going to have a lot of visiting to do and more caregivers to date.

This post has been edited by fortuneshine: Apr 15, 2009 @ 10:35 pm.

[marie81]

I'm in agreement that the psychiatric hospital is for House. I think that whatever is happening in the last couple of episodes is going to cause some kind of mental break or strain that is going to require him to get treatment.

[LadyMcBeth]

Interesting article. Thanks for sharing that. The place is really gothic and scary looking!

The other link seems to be broken, though.

[badpixie]

Yeah thanks for that.

The place is really gothic and scary looking!

The hospital is exactly the same design as Danvers State Hospital which was used in the horror film "Session 9". It's interesting to see inside a building as enormous and sad as that.

They are expected to shoot some background scenes for next year's episodes of the popular series Wednesday morning.

I think this is definitely for House rather than Danny because it seems like these background scenes could be used to contrast with the establishing shots we always see of PPTH. So if they're doing that then it looks like House will be in hospital for ages (although I have no idea how long treatment takes); assuming the season 6 premiere takes place months later for them too again this time rather than following directly on from the finale.

I wonder why they have to shoot scenes for next year now rather than over the summer? Maybe just because they'll need them in the finale when House is admitted, or maybe the building is due to be demolished since it's now a ruin.

This post has been edited by badpixie: Apr 15, 2009 @ 7:33 pm.

[Veggiesaurus81]

So if they're doing that then it looks like House will be in hospital for ages

OMG, so they really are turning this show into 13 M.D., aren't they? I mean, I can just see it now, three 13 scenes for every one House scene. We see House at the psych hospital and then come back to PPTH where, who else is there to focus on but 13? I swear, if they make 13 even more of a 'star' then, ugh, I don't know what I'm going to do then.

[fortuneshine]

Sorry about the broken Fox link above. I fixed it now and here's the photo of HL in question. HL at JFK airport
ETA, for some reason the discussion at Fox Forum is gone but at least the photo is proof.

Hugh looks ready to shoot some House, yes he does. :)

House being in a psychiatric hospital looks to be a way not for more 13 but to get Cameron and Chase more involved with cases at the start of season 6 and maybe even after House returns.

Shooting may have to take place now due to availabilty of the hospital, since it's closed that is probably limited. Plus shooting in an old structure like that may be more comfortable in cool April & May as opposed to sweltering July and August.

It is an amazing looking facility. I hope NJ can find a better use for it other than fodder for a wrecking ball.

This post has been edited by fortuneshine: Apr 16, 2009 @ 2:07 am.

[LadyMcBeth]

Hugh looks ready to shoot some House, yes he does. :)

He looks mighty grungy, yes sireee.

Thanks for the pic!

[maya2003]

My prediction is that the House/Cuddy sex will be a hallucination and will happen in 5x23, by which time he’ll have lost his ability to distinguish hallucinations from reality. Cuddy will take him aside to talk to him after he shouts about it in 5x24 but he will insist they did sleep with each other. She’ll go to Wilson (who'll be worried anyway because he suspects that House is hallucinating Amber) and they’ll decide it’s time to talk to him about considering psychiatric care. He’ll agree and the prospect of losing him will be especially hard on Wilson because he's always been afraid of it. It would be the perfect way to end a season in which House embarked on the path he did because of the crisis in his relationship with Wilson. And it would fit in with the last episode being "very emotional".

Start of next season, we’ll see Chase and Cam back on the diagnostics team, because House won’t be around. Don’t know about what will happen after he comes back. Maybe he’ll hire a new team member.

ETA: KJ said we’d get a kiss. I think that will be real and will happen either in 5x22 (or 5x24, when House leaves).